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Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#1 Posted : 13 January 2014 21:15:15(UTC)
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Don't miss these in the excitement of the Marklin announcements today as well!

http://www.roco.cc/de/pr...4a55af283d25decbc2dd378f

S bahn Cars for the new Marklin RE 420 LION and other good items in here!
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Offline kbvrod  
#2 Posted : 13 January 2014 21:36:17(UTC)
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Hi all,
US loksConfused Scared
Offline mike c  
#3 Posted : 13 January 2014 21:38:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Go to Quoted Post
Don't miss these in the excitement of the Marklin announcements today as well!

http://www.roco.cc/de/pr...4a55af283d25decbc2dd378f

S bahn Cars for the new Marklin RE 420 LION and other good items in here!


For information about the SBB S-Bahn cars, please see the following topic:

https://www.marklin-user...he4-LION.aspx#post438790

Regards

Mike C
Offline mike c  
#4 Posted : 13 January 2014 21:41:52(UTC)
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The various models of the Beilhack snowblower are going to be hits. Roco already made US locomotives and rolling stock for some of the US manufacturers, so it makes sense that they make some US models of their own. If I was them, I would showcase them in their own catalog rather than losing them in the general catalog. US modellers may not pay attention as Roco is known as a Euro brand to most of them.

I like some of the Alpentransit models that can be found on the Gotthard route.

I will definitely be buying the upgraded SBB Eurocity coach sets.

Regards

Mike C
Offline plavnostruev  
#5 Posted : 13 January 2014 22:08:27(UTC)
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Hi all,
US loksConfused Scared


You bet! Last year ROCO has indicated they are interested in producing US model(s), namely a diesel.
I conducted poll among customers, which produced rather mixed results, but SD40 did bubble up among some other models.
Waiting for confirmation that AC equivalent will also be produced.

Michael
Offline kbvrod  
#6 Posted : 13 January 2014 22:39:28(UTC)
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Good luck,...
Offline plavnostruev  
#7 Posted : 14 January 2014 02:01:58(UTC)
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not until 2015...

Michael

Offline mike c  
#8 Posted : 14 January 2014 05:42:24(UTC)
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Some additional clarification about the S-Bahn Zurich models.
The DC version will come in two sets (61442/3 and 61444/5), each consisting of (Re 420 + AB + B +B) plus additional coach set (64131).
The AC models will be available as two separate loks with different numbers (78415 and 78417), each with digital sound, plus two sets of Fleischmann 28cm coaches (64132 and 64133), each set consisting of AB + B + B.

The coaches from the 64132 and 64133 can also be used with Hag's Re 450 if combined with the matching pilot coach as follows: Re 450 - B - AB - Bt

Regards

Mike C

Offline Rinus  
#9 Posted : 14 January 2014 08:14:56(UTC)
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Allthough I'm still wainting on the 2013 new items to arrive, I must say there are some very interesting new items included this year! Rh 1110.1 Drool Drool

Rinus
Offline Goofy  
#10 Posted : 14 January 2014 16:25:15(UTC)
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Also swedish Rc electric locomotiv comes with the sound and it looks even better than Marklins 45 years old Rc crap ****!
This model is besides new tooling.
Arrives with 2 and 3 rail with ESU sound decoder.
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Offline Marius in Africa  
#11 Posted : 14 January 2014 19:11:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: plavnostruev Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kbvrod Go to Quoted Post
Hi all,
US loksConfused Scared


You bet! Last year ROCO has indicated they are interested in producing US model(s), namely a diesel.
I conducted poll among customers, which produced rather mixed results, but SD40 did bubble up among some other models.
Waiting for confirmation that AC equivalent will also be produced.

Michael


Hello Michael

Do you know whether these are genuine ROCO "in house developed" models or are they merely "branded" products sourced from existing USA manufacturers (e.g. Athearn)?

Regards

Marius
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Offline RayF  
#12 Posted : 14 January 2014 19:28:11(UTC)
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Nice selection of new AC models. I might be tempted to get another loco from Roco this year. Maybe something Marklin don't make?
Ray
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Offline mike c  
#13 Posted : 14 January 2014 19:37:51(UTC)
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I don't know who "owned" the moulds that Roco used when they manufactured models for American manufacturers. I am guessing that these are likely new models by Roco or that Roco has somehow acquired the rights to the moulds, making them Roco models and not "Athearn" or other models in Roco boxes.
One way we will possibly be able to see the nature of the relationship would be to see whether the Beilhack will eventually show up from a US manufacturer or whether Roco will market the model only as a Roco item.
FYI I used to have a Philips beard trimmer that was made by Roco. I think that the moulds and design remain with Philips and not with Roco.

Regards

Mike C
Offline kbvrod  
#14 Posted : 14 January 2014 20:08:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Marius in Africa Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: plavnostruev Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kbvrod Go to Quoted Post
Hi all,
US loksConfused Scared


You bet! Last year ROCO has indicated they are interested in producing US model(s), namely a diesel.
I conducted poll among customers, which produced rather mixed results, but SD40 did bubble up among some other models.
Waiting for confirmation that AC equivalent will also be produced.

Michael


Hello Michael

Do you know whether these are genuine ROCO "in house developed" models or are they merely "branded" products sourced from existing USA manufacturers (e.g. Athearn)?

Regards

Marius


Hi Marius,all,
Noch distributes Athearn in Europe.Walthers is marketing these Roco products in the US.

D

Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#15 Posted : 14 January 2014 22:58:23(UTC)
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Has anyone seen a PDF link or similar yet? The only problem with the Roco site (even when blown to full screen) is its impossible to read the product details!
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Offline plavnostruev  
#16 Posted : 15 January 2014 14:18:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Marius in Africa Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: plavnostruev Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: kbvrod Go to Quoted Post
Hi all,
US loksConfused Scared


You bet! Last year ROCO has indicated they are interested in producing US model(s), namely a diesel.
I conducted poll among customers, which produced rather mixed results, but SD40 did bubble up among some other models.
Waiting for confirmation that AC equivalent will also be produced.

Michael


Hello Michael

Do you know whether these are genuine ROCO "in house developed" models or are they merely "branded" products sourced from existing USA manufacturers (e.g. Athearn)?

Regards

Marius


Hi Marius,

This is all brand new, in house developed model. But we will not likely see them until 2015.

Michael
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Offline RayF  
#17 Posted : 15 January 2014 14:42:02(UTC)
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Has anyone seen a PDF link or similar yet? The only problem with the Roco site (even when blown to full screen) is its impossible to read the product details!


Hi John,

I have no problem reading the product details on my laptop. Are you using a mobile device?

This is where I'm looking:

http://www.roco.cc/de/pr...-1-400-0-0/products.html
Ray
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Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#18 Posted : 15 January 2014 19:53:12(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Go to Quoted Post
Has anyone seen a PDF link or similar yet? The only problem with the Roco site (even when blown to full screen) is its impossible to read the product details!


Hi John,

I have no problem reading the product details on my laptop. Are you using a mobile device?

This is where I'm looking:

http://www.roco.cc/de/pr...-1-400-0-0/products.html


Thanks Ray! I only had the catalogue view, which doesn't blow up properly. this is great!
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Offline Rinus  
#19 Posted : 15 January 2014 20:59:05(UTC)
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Nice selection of new AC models. I might be tempted to get another loco from Roco this year. Maybe something Marklin don't make?


Anyone in particular Ray?
Offline Rinus  
#20 Posted : 15 January 2014 21:05:53(UTC)
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I'm looking forward to their 'Doppeltaschen-Gelenkwagen Sdggmrs(s) - T2000 der AAE' line too.

What are your expectations of them? they where announced for 2013 originally

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Offline mike c  
#21 Posted : 15 January 2014 21:43:53(UTC)
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I am going to order the Roco Re 420 LION (probably both of them) as well as the Fleischmann Coach Sets. I remember when Sachsenmodelle released the 1/87 versions, they announced that they were not compatible with 3 Rail AC because of the coach length and the clearance of the coach bottom and bogie.
The other factor in this decision was that I already have the Hag Re 450 and matching Fleischmann coaches in both yellow and red door versions, so the coaches will match those sets.
I did not order the "Porrentruy" Re 4/4II because I already have this model from Maerklin. I may order the double set of green Re 4/4IIs. I have enough EWI, EWII, RIC and EWIV coaches for those loks.

The other essential items will be the SBB EuroCity coach sets. I will probably get the two sets plus the separate coaches. I will mix the single coaches with the ex-Cisalpino ones (already on order) and the odd 44770/44771 and EWIV to make a typical Swiss IR consist.

I may also go for the MRCE ES64U2 Taurus to add to my Private Operator Fleet for Freight Trains plus the AAE "Arcese" and Wascosa "Gruber" flat cars.

BTW If anybody wants to download the New Items Brochure, go to lokshop.de

Regards

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Offline plavnostruev  
#22 Posted : 15 January 2014 22:23:58(UTC)
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Has anyone seen a PDF link or similar yet? The only problem with the Roco site (even when blown to full screen) is its impossible to read the product details!



ROCO 2014 New Items PDF


Fleischmann 2014 New Items PDF

Michael
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Offline mmervine  
#23 Posted : 15 January 2014 22:39:39(UTC)
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Thanks Michael!!!
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Offline pserup  
#24 Posted : 15 January 2014 23:45:25(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Go to Quoted Post
Has anyone seen a PDF link or similar yet? The only problem with the Roco site (even when blown to full screen) is its impossible to read the product details!



ROCO 2014 New Items PDF


Fleischmann 2014 New Items PDF

Michael
I like the "model" on p19 of the Roco catalog in particular Drool

CS, Denmark/Germany Ep. I - V, Switzerland Ep. II - V, USA Ep. III/IV
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Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#25 Posted : 16 January 2014 01:16:32(UTC)
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Now that I've digested this a bit, some commentary on the SD-40's from a marketing perspective:

I"m curious why Roco chose this model, and also why they are not offering in AC? Starting with the Pros:

- almost every railroad owned them, almost infinite colors and variations can be produced
- easy to do the later SD 40-2 models, and also the varying railroad-specific details
- Most serious US modellers will buy 2-3 to create a lashup

So there is a huge con- almost everyone has manufactured one, and at the same or a lesser price. I have to wonder if Roco is banking on European sales with their strong brand name over there, and the lack of US models being available, or if they plan on selling lots of these in the US?

My 2 cents- an AC version to us Marklin fans would do quite well, meaning the take rate amongst the overall AC community would be a much higher % than the DC one, however the DC community could mean a MUCH higher volume than AC system sales.

Anyways, just things that keep me up at night. I think if they are banking on US sales they may have a rough time- especially with current distribution through Reynaulds....

Now the snowblower on the other hand they could sell PILES of here in the states...
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Offline Winterblade73  
#26 Posted : 16 January 2014 06:11:07(UTC)
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especially with current distribution through Reynaulds....


From what I have heard, Reynauld's no longer is sole distributor for Roco in the US. Correct me if I am wrong, stores are going to buy directly from Roco in Europe. Too many complaints of Reynauld's hoarding stock to sell to their customers and not distributing to the dealers that ordered them for their customers.
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Offline plavnostruev  
#27 Posted : 16 January 2014 15:12:56(UTC)
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Quote:
especially with current distribution through Reynaulds....


From what I have heard, Reynauld's no longer is sole distributor for Roco in the US. Correct me if I am wrong, stores are going to buy directly from Roco in Europe. Too many complaints of Reynauld's hoarding stock to sell to their customers and not distributing to the dealers that ordered them for their customers.


You are not wrong BigGrin
Roco/Fleischmann has figured out fair and efficient worldwide distribution model. All dealers now buy directly from the factory, and at the same prices.

Michael
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Offline RayF  
#28 Posted : 16 January 2014 17:43:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Nice selection of new AC models. I might be tempted to get another loco from Roco this year. Maybe something Marklin don't make?


Anyone in particular Ray?


There's a few locos that have caught my eye, but this FS loco looks nice, and is not at all expensive. It's model number 79566, E412 019 of the FS.

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Offline Rinus  
#29 Posted : 16 January 2014 17:46:03(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: pserup Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: plavnostruev Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Go to Quoted Post
Has anyone seen a PDF link or similar yet? The only problem with the Roco site (even when blown to full screen) is its impossible to read the product details!



ROCO 2014 New Items PDF


Fleischmann 2014 New Items PDF

Michael
I like the "model" on p19 of the Roco catalog in particular Drool



Hmm what railways is that? Drool
Offline Rinus  
#30 Posted : 16 January 2014 17:48:01(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Rinus Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Nice selection of new AC models. I might be tempted to get another loco from Roco this year. Maybe something Marklin don't make?


Anyone in particular Ray?


There's a few locos that have caught my eye, but this FS loco looks nice, and is not at all expensive. It's model number 79566, E412 019 of the FS.

UserPostedImage


I got the EU43 on the page before that and I can tell you its a great runner. Quite heavy too.

Offline mike c  
#31 Posted : 16 January 2014 18:13:11(UTC)
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I like the "model" on p19 of the Roco catalog in particular Drool


Yes, but in order for it to work optimally, you must be installed with a decoder.LOL

Regards

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Offline kbvrod  
#32 Posted : 16 January 2014 18:57:01(UTC)
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Hi John,all,

>So there is a huge con- almost everyone has manufactured one, and at the same or a lesser price. I have to wonder if Roco is banking on European sales with their strong brand name over there, and the lack of US models being available, or if they plan on selling lots of these in the US?<

You answered that question!BigGrin

>Now the snowblower on the other hand they could sell PILES of here in the states...<

The PRR folks are,...........Drool LOL

Dr D


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#33 Posted : 16 January 2014 19:10:01(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Rinus Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Nice selection of new AC models. I might be tempted to get another loco from Roco this year. Maybe something Marklin don't make?


Anyone in particular Ray?


There's a few locos that have caught my eye, but this FS loco looks nice, and is not at all expensive. It's model number 79566, E412 019 of the FS.

UserPostedImage


I may need one as well... I really wish I could buy the E 646 reissue but nothing in AC Crying
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Offline Winterblade73  
#34 Posted : 21 January 2014 22:33:49(UTC)
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Disappointed to find that the CD Railjet is only being produced in DC. Was looking forward to this being my big purchase for the whole consist this year. Sad
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#35 Posted : 23 January 2014 14:48:29(UTC)
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Any price? It is quite high that marklin.

I heard the fleischmann/Roco ask all dealers to stick RRP price. Can confirm it?

I look at lokshop website and the price same as RRP.
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#36 Posted : 24 January 2014 22:32:29(UTC)
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Any price? It is quite high that marklin.

I heard the fleischmann/Roco ask all dealers to stick RRP price. Can confirm it?

I look at lokshop website and the price same as RRP.


MSL dropped discounting on Fleischmann/Roco products a week or so ago. They just show the full price now.
The Brawa range increased in price by around 10% with the release of the 2014 new items range.

It looks like the sale of Marklin itself means the end of their discounting program and the other main manufacturers see no need to maintain discounting.
It will be interesting to watch how consumers react to this after 4 years of discounted products.

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Offline jonas_sthlm  
#37 Posted : 24 January 2014 22:54:38(UTC)
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I spent € 8,400 last year thru MSL and very disappointed at this year's prices ThumbDown

So this year I move purchases to another dealer Sneaky
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#38 Posted : 26 January 2014 19:15:57(UTC)
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It's not caused by MSL, it's a problem of the Roco-Fleischmann group.

I have looking for Roco items in some online shops, and all of them are offering now only the RRP with no more discounts, in Roco and Fleischmann.
In fact, MLS is offering discounts in other brands: Liliput, LSModels, and so on..
We have detected this "issue", here in Spain, for the Hornby group (Electrotren), Roco and Fleischmann.

Some modellers have been talking about it in Spanish forums, and our dealers have received in the last months, some callings advising about the prices, in the way of "you must sell at the RRP, if you want to retail our brand". In fact, some of them are applying the discount only in the final bill of the purchase, although the official price is the RRP

We think that, due this is a commercial policy that is being applied by the manufactureres all along Europe, this is a case we can claim to the Competition Commisioner, Mr. Almunia (yes, its a spaniard too... :-)

The dealers are under pression, because if they claim, the manufacturers will cut off all, but we, the customers, are free to claim...(at least, members of the EU).

Any idea, then? :-)

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#39 Posted : 26 January 2014 19:19:39(UTC)
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If you think is needed, we can open another discussion about this theme
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Offline Rinus  
#40 Posted : 27 January 2014 21:48:07(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Rinus Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
Nice selection of new AC models. I might be tempted to get another loco from Roco this year. Maybe something Marklin don't make?


Anyone in particular Ray?


There's a few locos that have caught my eye, but this FS loco looks nice, and is not at all expensive. It's model number 79566, E412 019 of the FS.

UserPostedImage


I may need one as well... I really wish I could buy the E 646 reissue but nothing in AC Crying


These articulated Italian loco's are indeed very nice. Strange thing is there seems to be a ban on them to be produced in AC. Couple of years ago ACME announced some in AC but they where never delivered. Now Roco does not seem interested to re-issue thm in AC too Crying

Rinus
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#41 Posted : 27 January 2014 22:16:11(UTC)
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Friends, please download and read the mail catalog 2013-14 and the winter catalog about the Railjet AC and some italian locos Cool

http://ssl.lokshop.de/ne...mclpup68tqvnerp6sjcnidu3
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#42 Posted : 28 January 2014 20:03:02(UTC)
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Friends, please download and read the mail catalog 2013-14 and the winter catalog about the Railjet AC and some italian locos Cool

http://ssl.lokshop.de/ne...mclpup68tqvnerp6sjcnidu3


Hi Alberto! Which Italian locos are coming in AC? Or what brands? All I saw was the one Roco E412. Thanks!
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Offline Alberto Pedrini  
#43 Posted : 30 January 2014 03:42:01(UTC)
Alberto Pedrini

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Sorry fo delay

From Lima E636?

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Alberto

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Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#44 Posted : 30 January 2014 16:45:17(UTC)
5HorizonsRR

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Thanks Alberto! I did not know about the Lima 636 in AC! Did it look to be "nicer" than past Lima models?
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Offline Alberto Pedrini  
#45 Posted : 30 January 2014 19:52:57(UTC)
Alberto Pedrini

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Lima models are almost the same as Rivarossi, these are two my models since 1991, converted in AC, at work in the last expo in Genova December 2013

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http://www.marklinfan.net/fs_e632_lima.htm

http://www.marklinfan.net/fs_e_656.htm

Alberto

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Offline Marius in Africa  
#46 Posted : 10 February 2014 16:38:52(UTC)
Marius in Africa

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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
Any price? It is quite high that marklin.

I heard the fleischmann/Roco ask all dealers to stick RRP price. Can confirm it?

I look at lokshop website and the price same as RRP.


Not so for the ROCO SJ wagon set, both 67070 & 67071 are now shown at 90 Euro, RRP 100 Euro. That makes these ROCO items more pricy than the Marklin version: ROCO 22,5 Euro / wagon, Marklin 20,54 Euro / wagon (46372). All price exclude VAT.
Marius in Africa

HO, ECoS 2, Märklin C-track, any country, any design, any era & any brand which i like.
Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#47 Posted : 10 February 2014 18:11:14(UTC)
5HorizonsRR

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Originally Posted by: Alberto Pedrini Go to Quoted Post
Lima models are almost the same as Rivarossi, these are two my models since 1991, converted in AC, at work in the last expo in Genova December 2013

http://www.marklinfan.net/fs_e632_lima.htm

http://www.marklinfan.net/fs_e_656.htm



Grazie Alberto! Have you seen a part number for the AC E636 yet? I can only find DC
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Offline NZMarklinist  
#48 Posted : 11 February 2014 03:55:31(UTC)
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Has anyone seen a PDF link or similar yet? The only problem with the Roco site (even when blown to full screen) is its impossible to read the product details!



ROCO 2014 New Items PDF


Fleischmann 2014 New Items PDF

Michael
I like the "model" on p19 of the Roco catalog in particular Drool



Indeed, one should be supplied with every Z1 so the operator at least has, something "Tactile" to play with Wink
And is that the face, on the cover, wearing a "Roco Glass", then it would need to be right at the MRR operators hand for "Total Control" Smile Blushing
Glen
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#49 Posted : 11 February 2014 04:12:44(UTC)
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I would be keen to buy a set of DB ERA V/VI IC coaches with the opening doors some day, Drool as long as the decoder was not DCC exclusive ! but then it would be an ESU one, so could be exchaned for an MFX function decoder I would imagine.

I will confess to owning two Roco DHL Container wagens and a Swiss IC short basggage car Wink
Glen
Auckland NZ

" Every Marklin layout needs a V200, a Railbus and a Banana car", not to mention a few Black and red Steamers, oh and the odd Elok !

CS1 Reloaded, Touch Cab, C Track Modules, K track layout all under construction. Currently Insider
Offline mike c  
#50 Posted : 11 February 2014 05:25:20(UTC)
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I have been a little consternated reading comments about the 78411 Re 4/4II "Bourret" loco on DSO and other German language forums. It seems that some people noticed that the paint surface seemed a little rough on the model that was displayed at Nuremberg and that models that have been showing up at dealers also seem to have this issue, leading some people to cancel their orders. You can find some close-up photos in this posting on DSO: http://www.drehscheibe-f...8385,6758620#msg-6758620

The entire thread can be found here: http://www.drehscheibe-f...oren/read.php?10,6758385

I have sent an email to my dealer asking them to clarify the matter with Roco, as I have no interest in receiving a model that I will have to return at my cost if it is not acceptable. This way, hopefully they can hold my item for a few weeks while Roco replies. They are charging more for this item than for other Re 4/4IIs in the catalogue and there is no reason why the model cannot be delivered with a proper paint job.

Regards

Mike C
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