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Offline obxbill  
#1 Posted : 27 December 2013 17:52:39(UTC)
obxbill

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I've just started a 2-rail WWII layout and I'm trying to find any railroad pics from that timeframe. Does anyone know of any websites on the subject?

Thanks!
Bill
Marklin HO and Z also Hornby 00 and US 2-rail
Offline steventrain  
#2 Posted : 27 December 2013 18:07:48(UTC)
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Have you try Google serach?
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
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Offline mike c  
#3 Posted : 27 December 2013 18:24:54(UTC)
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There are a number of photos that can be found in assorted books about the war.
As Steven suggested, why don't you google "reichsbahn im krieg"
Here's one from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/D...g-National/dp/3344708120

Once you are done building your layout, let me know your address and I will be pleased to fly over it with my 1/87 scale fully loaded Lancasters, B-17s and such

Regards

Mike C
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Offline TheFatTick  
#4 Posted : 27 December 2013 18:45:01(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mike c Go to Quoted Post
There are a number of photos that can be found in assorted books about the war.
As Steven suggested, why don't you google "reichsbahn im krieg"
Here's one from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/D...g-National/dp/3344708120

Once you are done building your layout, let me know your address and I will be pleased to fly over it with my 1/87 scale fully loaded Lancasters, B-17s and such

Regards

Mike C



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Offline obxbill  
#5 Posted : 27 December 2013 20:10:39(UTC)
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Thanks for the info! I tried a couple google searches but maybe I didn't ask it correctly. And Mike C, I'll keep you posted and will have a Focke Wulf reception waiting for ya! LOL LOL

Bill
Marklin HO and Z also Hornby 00 and US 2-rail
Offline mike c  
#6 Posted : 27 December 2013 20:43:23(UTC)
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No problem. I'll just place an order for a few squadrons of P-51s and if needed, I can always transfer a B-29 from the Pacific theatre.
I can also throw in a couple of boxes of Preiser Maquis to liven things up

Regards

Mike C
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Offline Dreadnought  
#7 Posted : 28 December 2013 05:18:47(UTC)
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If attacking trains, a typhoon might work. My father flew one over Holland, strafing trained and ships until he was shot down. For my part I would just admire a good Marklin layout.
Offline NS1200  
#8 Posted : 28 December 2013 16:20:56(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: obxbill Go to Quoted Post
I've just started a 2-rail WWII layout and I'm trying to find any railroad pics from that timeframe. Does anyone know of any websites on the subject?

Thanks!
Bill


Bill,

Try www.reichsbahn.nl .
In Dutch only.
On the left hand side some options to explore.
They have a modelrailway based on the 1940-45 period.

On the allied side,i once saw a fantastic layout situated in an English harbour portraying the loading preparations for D-day.
Need to find that again.

I am not entirely sure what would be your favorite scene from this dark period in history.

Paul.
Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
Offline NS1200  
#9 Posted : 28 December 2013 16:33:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Dreadnought Go to Quoted Post
If attacking trains, a typhoon might work. My father flew one over Holland, strafing trained and ships until he was shot down. For my part I would just admire a good Marklin layout.


Strafing was effective for the attackers but no fun for the receiving end.
Most traindrivers were Dutch and being forced to work for Nazi Germany.
It was either working or having no food at home,or being shot for that matter.
As such,their employer NS told them to carry out their duties,despite of the apparent danger.
There is yet another angle:these trains were also carrying food and coal to the western part of Holland,much needed in wintertime.
In September 1944,after the liberation of Antwerp,the Dutch government in London declared a total railwaystrike in Holland,anticipating that Holland would be liberated in a matter of weeks.
Not so,because of this dramatic decision,people in the Amsterdam/Rotterdam/The Hague area were having to face a severe winter 44/45 without proper food or heating.
So,as always in war,there were two sides of the coin.
And,as you say,i would also prefer a non-military layout.

Paul.
Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
Offline glight1  
#10 Posted : 28 December 2013 17:00:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: NS1200 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Dreadnought Go to Quoted Post
If attacking trains, a typhoon might work. My father flew one over Holland, strafing trained and ships until he was shot down. For my part I would just admire a good Marklin layout.


Strafing was effective for the attackers but no fun for the receiving end.
Most traindrivers were Dutch and being forced to work for Nazi Germany.
It was either working or having no food at home,or being shot for that matter.
As such,their employer NS told them to carry out their duties,despite of the apparent danger.
There is yet another angle:these trains were also carrying food and coal to the western part of Holland,much needed in wintertime.
In September 1944,after the liberation of Antwerp,the Dutch government in London declared a total railwaystrike in Holland,anticipating that Holland would be liberated in a matter of weeks.
Not so,because of this dramatic decision,people in the Amsterdam/Rotterdam/The Hague area were having to face a severe winter 44/45 without proper food or heating.
So,as always in war,there were two sides of the coin.
And,as you say,i would also prefer a non-military layout.

Paul.


I would imagine that most German Engineers, firemen and other rail personnel also felt the same. The alternatives most likely included being drafted into the Wehrmacht and serving on the Eastern front, or worse. As interesting as the WWII time period is, I choose not to have any military included in my little layout.

Gary
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Offline kbvrod  
#11 Posted : 28 December 2013 17:05:04(UTC)
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Hi all,
If someone wants to have a WW 2 theme layout(s)that is their choice,...Cursing

Did we forget Roco MiniTanks?M metal? Or the thousands who build/collect military models?Blink

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Offline glight1  
#12 Posted : 28 December 2013 20:19:02(UTC)
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Here are some images from google that I found. Not sure whether you were interested in visuals or written documentation.

https://www.google.com/s...amp;biw=1383&bih=960

As usual, google throws in some things that are not WWII.

Gary
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Offline Webmaster  
#13 Posted : 28 December 2013 22:05:03(UTC)
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If you are interested in the "daily life" of the Reichsbahn with real photos of how it could be, there is a book "Die Deutsche Reichsbahn im Zweiter Weltkrieg" with pictures of everyday life of those involved.

I have this book, and it has many photos - but mainly not of train compositions and such, but rather the life with the trains during WW2...

ISBN 3-344-70812-0
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Offline obxbill  
#14 Posted : 29 December 2013 00:54:28(UTC)
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I wish to thank everyone for there help with info. I did in fact find an Era II layout from the Netherlands on youtube that is of great help to me. I do realize this was a dark time in our world history but even in times of war, daily life goes on and this is primarily what I am interested in. Webmaster, you may delete this thread if you like. It is afterall not about Marklin or even 3-rail. My apologies for creating an unpleasant situation.

Bill
Marklin HO and Z also Hornby 00 and US 2-rail
Offline nevw  
#15 Posted : 29 December 2013 01:57:47(UTC)
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Please do not mention the war. Any war.Crying LOL Love Mad Cursing RollEyes Woot Unsure

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Offline mike c  
#16 Posted : 29 December 2013 04:40:12(UTC)
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I was rather displeased when I first saw this thread. You can see by my reply that I provided some information, but also made my opinion of the project very clear. The person replied to my comment and I replied that I would counter his response and suggested that it could be taken even higher.
The Reichsbahn did provide transportation of civilians and civilian goods during the war, in Germany and throughout Europe. Unfortunately, it will always be remembered for it's role in the occupation and plundering of occupied territories and especially for it's role in the deportation and extermination of unerwuenschte in following the final solution.
I cannot and will not stand by any glorification of this role and it amazes me that people want to model this period of time rather than the role of the DB in the reconstruction period after the war.
There were some technical achievements during the prewar Nazi period, but since these were tainted by the events that occurred thereafter, it has to be kept in mind that people may be upset by other's modelling or even discussing this period.

It is not a question of the victors imposing their beliefs on the vanquished, but out of respect and in common decency for those who were killed, displaced or otherwise affected by the actions of the wartime regime and the railroad that aided and abetted those actions.

Respectfully yours,

Mike C
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#17 Posted : 29 December 2013 05:27:55(UTC)
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