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Offline Gregzim  
#1 Posted : 04 May 2013 11:50:46(UTC)
Gregzim

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I could not find how to make a 'Y" junction with C track on the forum but after help from a web link given on the forum (http://hoexbroe.tripod.com) which is a very specialist track site - I write to the site owner who gave me the key pieces needed by email.

I then put them together on Wintrack and attach here for anyone who wants to see which C track pieces to use.

Please note - there are 4 tiny curved pieces - at each end of the curves 24230. Their marklin C track number is 24206

Regards

Greg
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#2 Posted : 04 May 2013 12:30:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gregzim Go to Quoted Post
(http://hoexbroe.tripod.com) which is a very specialist track site - I write to the site owner......


That's forum member hxmiesa's website.
Offline Johnvr  
#3 Posted : 04 May 2013 13:02:02(UTC)
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Greg,

Ok, interesting !
But don't you think it is a little bit funny with a middle rail which goes nowhere ?Blushing

It is a pity that it is not easy to make a figure of 8 in C-Track.
I think a lot of people with restricted space would like to make a figure of 8.
Using the 'Y' would be one way of doing it.

In Marklin M-Track, there was a 30 degree angle crossing, so it would be possible.
Unfortunately, with C-Track angle of 24'58" (or something like that) it is not possible.
In a way, I wish that Marklin had made the C-Track angle 22'30" , because then that would be a 3/4 of 30 degrees, and then it would have worked.

Think about it !

Regards,BigGrin
John
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Offline petestra  
#4 Posted : 04 May 2013 13:28:54(UTC)
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Hi John, great info! One could add a 24172 and 24977 (might fit?) for a small tank Lok track if the Y is

near a station area or yard area? PeterThumpUp Smile
Offline H0  
#5 Posted : 04 May 2013 13:36:47(UTC)
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Other solutions can be found on this forum:
https://www.marklin-user...ack--wye.aspx#post280027
Regards
Tom
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Offline Mafi  
#6 Posted : 04 May 2013 19:18:03(UTC)
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Hi Greg,

not completely on your topic, but similiar when it comes to Y-shaped crossings:
http://www.stummiforum.de/viewtopic.php?t=19288 - C-Gleis-Dreieck(e) (2008)
http://www.stummiforum.de/viewtopic.php?t=92295 - H0-Gleisdreieck mit C-Gleis (2013)
http://www.stummiforum.de/viewtopic.php?t=92349 - C-Gleis Kreuzungen selber bauen (2013)

Cheers
Mafi
Don't be too proud of the new high tech terror you just have invented! (Darth Vader, Episode IV)
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#7 Posted : 04 May 2013 23:38:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Johnvr Go to Quoted Post
Greg,

Ok, interesting !
But don't you think it is a little bit funny with a middle rail which goes nowhere ?Blushing

.......
Regards,BigGrin
John


Hi John,

Y tracks were installed ubiquitously at stations all over the world, to reverse locomotives where no turntable was installed. Of course a straight extension is required on what they call the stub end.

regards
Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#8 Posted : 05 May 2013 00:24:37(UTC)
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Good evening,
With some twisting it works like this, too - see screenshots. Blink
Gr. - Ak
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#9 Posted : 05 May 2013 00:34:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Other solutions can be found on this forum:
https://www.marklin-user...ack--wye.aspx#post280027


Hi Tom,

Thanks for that. That earlier topic has some great solutions, including a double track version, from David in Norway. (Member name klarinettmeister).

regards
Kimball

HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
Offline mike c  
#10 Posted : 05 May 2013 00:49:22(UTC)
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Would it not be easier and perhaps better looking to simply use a normal switch track and one curved and one straight section to set up two parallel tracks coming out from the station area and then branch one off to the left and the other off to the right, connecting to the other track using a left and a right switch track?
The other possibility since a Gleisdreieck is usually situated adjacent to a station, would be to have two parallel tracks with a switchover before one branches off to the right and the other branches off to the left, thus enabling a train (lok) from either track to access either the left or right hand curve.

Regards

Mike C
Offline evan.v.giles  
#11 Posted : 05 May 2013 02:17:14(UTC)
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Hi everyone,

This is another example albiet a small one of a manufacturer not realy thinking about the market it serves buy picking fractional amounts for point angles it stuffs the geometry they realy
should give better consideration to such things as we are adults and understand the design principles that go into these things.Sad

However I have just spent a few weeks doing a design for a layout and have managed to design a wye using the 2271 points and the flex track but while it may look good on paper,
actually constructing it may prove otherwise.BigGrin

I unfortunately don't like the C track.Razz

I forgot to add that NSW has several such wye's Orange East Fork is one but thier are several others (Regents Park - Sefton Road ) - Goobang -
Granville - Merrylands this is the the newest one and Lidcombe - Clyde

Lidcome - Clyde and Regents Park - Sefton Road form the Metropolitan Goods line and allow direct access to Enfield Marshalling yard.

Edited by user 05 May 2013 06:21:17(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Offline cookee_nz  
#12 Posted : 05 May 2013 03:02:09(UTC)
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Purely for the amusement of those that didn't know, the 'Y', is correctly also called a "Wye", (the same term also being used to describe electrical connections also having the same shape).

So even when we spell it wrong, we're still saying it right. We can all go to the top of the class BigGrin

I am aware of at least two Wyes on our rail system here in NZ, possibly there are others also.

They do make for an interesting operating feature on a model railway where you are blessed to have room for one. There is even one on my favourite 'to-be-customized-and-built-one-day' vintage Faller trackplan

And for those into Modular Layouts (such as our MMRC is working on), here a module example

Wye

And the Faller plan I was referring to - (loosely based around the Schwarzwald town of Villingen) - I like this one but would need some variation to be more interesting....

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Offline Johnvr  
#13 Posted : 05 May 2013 09:46:34(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Johnvr Go to Quoted Post
Greg,

It is a pity that it is not easy to make a figure of 8 in C-Track.
I think a lot of people with restricted space would like to make a figure of 8.
Using the 'Y' would be one way of doing it.

Think about it !

Regards,BigGrin
John


Ok, I decided to think about it myself !
In fact, I thought about it all night last night !!

It dawned on me that a Figure-8 is possible using the short crossing 24649.
And if you work the tracks you could make a "Wye" with some modification.

So now those of us with restricted spacial area can make a Figure-8 Cool Cool Cool
See attached diagram and track requirements :


Regards,BigGrin
John
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Offline Demau  
#14 Posted : 06 November 2014 16:33:09(UTC)
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Hi John,

Would you mind letting me know what trucks are being used for your design, please?
I tried to zoom it in, double click it, etc, but I'm not able to determine how did you do it!!!

Thanks in advance,

Daniel
Offline Alsterstreek  
#15 Posted : 06 November 2014 17:12:02(UTC)
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Offline Demau  
#16 Posted : 07 November 2014 23:20:39(UTC)
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I finally found an 8-shape C track design. No bends at all!!!
It actually is not my success, because I foud it in a German site: http://www.stummiforum.de/
Here it is:

http://www.stummiforum.d...pic.php?f=24&t=55294

It's the perfect one, and can be build with just 1x24624, 20x24230, and 4x24215, if you take all the turnouts out of it. Simple and perfect!!!
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Offline H0  
#17 Posted : 08 November 2014 07:24:47(UTC)
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This one?
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Regards
Tom
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