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Offline ariete  
#1 Posted : 08 January 2013 06:50:12(UTC)
ariete

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Hi all as new member to this forum, I hope I have not started a post that has already been covered. But I have a thing about Marklin shop advertising, I like the little Marklin signs that used to put on shelves among the goods for sale. One item I would dearly like to see a photo or in fact anyting of, is I think it was from the 50's or 60s about 30 or more centimeters long and about 7 or so high, made of cardboard or paper mache and three dimensional. The world MARKLIN in I think blue, red and silver, but my memory is a little vague it was about 40 years ago. Anyone remember this?
Offline CCS800KrokHunter3  
#2 Posted : 08 January 2013 19:24:15(UTC)
CCS800KrokHunter3

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Hello,

Welcome to the forum!

I think I know the sign you're talking about, but I don't have a photo. This online album, however, does have some photos of nice Marklin dealer advertising products:

http://mist1.de/index.ph.../?album=3&gallery=23

Best regards,

Paul
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Offline Markus Schild  
#3 Posted : 08 January 2013 19:42:19(UTC)
Markus Schild

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Hi,

From the catalogue for advertisement articles 1959:

UserPostedImage

Later the Märklin-signs were made of deep-drawn plastic, but these were made of wood pulp board (German: Holzpappe).

Regards

Markus
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Offline CCS800KrokHunter3  
#4 Posted : 09 January 2013 16:02:22(UTC)
CCS800KrokHunter3

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Great find, Markus!

In case any readers don't know German, I'll try my hand at a translation:

Quote:

Marklin - Logos

made from wood-pulp paper'

The plastic Marklin logos are made from strong, white double-walled wood-pulp cardboard. The main background color is silver, with thinner individual red letters glued on. This logo is offered in two large versions.

19 016 Price DM 4.- net
Logo out of wood-pulp board
600 mm long, 78 mm high,
28 mm thick

19 018 Price DM 6,- net
Logo out of wood-pulp board 800 mm long, 101 mm high, 29 mm deep.


I'll try and find a color photo of this one.

Best regards,

Paul
Offline Western Pacific  
#5 Posted : 09 January 2013 20:39:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: CCS800KrokHunter3 Go to Quoted Post
Great find, Markus!

In case any readers don't know German, I'll try my hand at a translation:

Quote:

Marklin - Logos

made from wood-pulp paper'

The plastic Marklin logos are made from strong, white double-walled wood-pulp cardboard. The main background color is silver, with thinner individual red letters glued on. This logo is offered in two large versions.

19 016 Price DM 4.- net
Logo out of wood-pulp board
600 mm long, 78 mm high,
28 mm thick

19 018 Price DM 6,- net
Logo out of wood-pulp board 800 mm long, 101 mm high, 29 mm deep.


I'll try and find a color photo of this one.

Best regards,

Paul



Not being a native German nor English speaker, but being fluent in both, I have two comments:

"plastischen" I would have translated into "three-dimensional" (or something similar) and the word "Größen" I would have translated into "sizes".

Otherwise I think the translation is excellent.
Offline CCS800KrokHunter3  
#6 Posted : 09 January 2013 21:40:53(UTC)
CCS800KrokHunter3

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Originally Posted by: Western Pacific Go to Quoted Post


Not being a native German nor English speaker, but being fluent in both, I have two comments:

"plastischen" I would have translated into "three-dimensional" (or something similar) and the word "Größen" I would have translated into "sizes".

Otherwise I think the translation is excellent.


Thanks for the comments...sometimes I take for granted the similarity between some English and German words BigGrin

...always learning...

Best,

Paul
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#7 Posted : 09 January 2013 21:58:57(UTC)
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Welcome to the forum ariete, I think I've seen you before on Trademe, and may have even purchased the odd thing from you.

Interesting topic!
Offline kweekalot  
#8 Posted : 09 January 2013 22:07:27(UTC)
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Hi Ariete,
Let me also welcome you to the forum !! ThumpUp
It's a fun place to be.

Marco
Offline H0  
#9 Posted : 09 January 2013 22:10:35(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: CCS800KrokHunter3 Go to Quoted Post
sometimes I take for granted the similarity between some English and German words BigGrin
That's the mean thing - many words have common roots, but in few centuries the meaning may have shifted a bit ...
Regards
Tom
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"In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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Offline ariete  
#10 Posted : 12 January 2013 07:15:36(UTC)
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BigGrin Hi Guys, thanks for the welcome, yes I've been around Marklin for almost 50 years with varying degrees of interest. But now at last, the old Marklin sign I dream about, is it only me but sometimes I dream about going into an old bycle or electrical store that sold Marklin and lookng at all the old goodies for sale. But anyway I'm so pleased to see the original Marklin sales sheet describing it. If a colour photo could be obtained brilliant, but now I think I will need to find one, maybe somewhere there is one. I will send soon some photo's of my modest accumulation of Marklin advertising.
Cheers
Rex
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Offline ariete  
#11 Posted : 14 January 2013 08:19:56(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Markus Schild Go to Quoted Post
Hi,

From the catalogue for advertisement articles 1959:

UserPostedImage

Later the Märklin-signs were made of deep-drawn plastic, but these were made of wood pulp board (German: Holzpappe).

Regards

Markus


Markus do you have other such scans from the early 50's, 60's Marklin advertising booklets?
Rex
Offline Br502362  
#12 Posted : 05 March 2014 13:46:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Markus Schild Go to Quoted Post
Hi,

From the catalogue for advertisement articles 1959:

UserPostedImage

Later the Märklin-signs were made of deep-drawn plastic, but these were made of wood pulp board (German: Holzpappe).

Regards

Markus


Hi,

I am new to this forum and would like to share a photo of my Märklin sign.


Regards

Åke
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Offline Br502362  
#13 Posted : 18 March 2014 13:33:41(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Br502362 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Markus Schild Go to Quoted Post
Hi,

From the catalogue for advertisement articles 1959:

UserPostedImage

Later the Märklin-signs were made of deep-drawn plastic, but these were made of wood pulp board (German: Holzpappe).

Regards

Markus


Hi,

I am new to this forum and would like to share a photo of my Märklin sign.


Regards

Åke


Any idea what these signs cost today? I haven't found any auctions etc. where to look for prices.
One collector had 5 of these, but he wasn't willing to give any price information to me.
He only asked if I am willing to sell it to him BigGrin

Regards

Åke
Offline cookee_nz  
#14 Posted : 26 April 2014 10:26:32(UTC)
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Continuing on from this previous topic.... (relevant portions only re-pasted here for continuity)....

https://www.marklin-user...erything.aspx#post451624

Originally Posted by: kweekalot Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Ian555 Go to Quoted Post
Hi all,

Any information on the red Märklin sign, would that be produced for Märklin.

Wouldn't mind a couple of them for my display cabinets.

Ian.


Hi Ian,

These signs were made out of aluminum, in blue and red, see picture.
On a German mrr forum is a thread with 7 pages full of items for the real die hard Marklin Devotees, see here: LINK TO GERMAN FORUM
I think the clock is really nice for your trainroom too.

Marco

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Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Ian555 Go to Quoted Post
Hi all,

Any information on the red Märklin sign, would that be produced for Märklin.

Wouldn't mind a couple of them for my display cabinets.

Ian.



Hi Ian,

Those signs are quite hard to find, they are die-cast and have an achilles-heal, if they are dropped and happen to land at the wrong angle, very easy to break and I'm not aware of a good strong adhesive suitable for diecast - and it may be a cheap version of diecast also, not same material as the Loco's are cast from - I've heard them referred to as 'pig-metal' or 'shxt-metal' also.

Very collectible item. I'll see if I can put up a picture of mine later on when I'm home.

Cheers

Steve


For the pask several days Nadine and I have been busy 'refreshing' our house, plastering and fixing minor damage to walls, sealing gaps, new interior paint job, and ready next week for new carpet.

For the carpet I had to clear out my man-cave, what a mission. But it has enabled me to get access to some things for photographs etc

Here are some of my signs collected over the years.

The big one is a lighted dealer display sign, still in it's factory wrapping, it's about 1.2m wide so it's not small, and I've placed the smaller ones on it for perspective.

The smaller ones are the same style as discussed previously, the red one which has a broken 'N' from being dropped, and the dark one which looks like it might also have had a drop on the N, it looks slightly skewed but it's not fractured. However I fear any attempt to straighten it might break it.

In between them is another sign made of aluminium, designed I suspect for placing onto the edge of a shelf or it can free stand like an inverted 'V'.

I also have two other larger aluminium signs, different sizes. Those ones have nylon to suspend them but they are now stowed where I can't get to them right now, I'll take some pictures in a few days.

And I thought I would also show another interesting item given to me by a friend ( ariete Offline ). I'm told this was a mock display to show a particular new item before actual stock was available for taking advance orders, or perhaps simply as a 'shelf-filler'.

I'd never seen them before, this one is a class 86, road number 260, there is no other printing on the rear or base, it's simply a good photo cut into an outline of the loco. Very effective and at first glance if you saw one in a display cabinet you could easily think it was the real thing.

I would like to know the actual item numbers for all these items, unfortunately none of my dealer present catalogues show them. The die-cast ones probably date from around the 60's?

The lighted sign is probably 10 years old at a guess.

Cheers

Steve

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Offline cookee_nz  
#15 Posted : 26 April 2014 23:33:10(UTC)
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Sorry folks, I have just realised that this thread should have been continued in the following topic....

www.marklin-users.net/fo...in-shop-advertising.aspx

I've requested a merge of this thread into the 'Marklin shop advertising' thread.
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#16 Posted : 26 April 2014 23:55:52(UTC)
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Topics merged...
Juhan - "Webmaster", at your service...
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#17 Posted : 27 April 2014 00:30:56(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Webmaster Go to Quoted Post
Topics merged...


Arrrgh! You just beat me to it....! (I was responding to Cookee's email) I thought you'd be off to beddie byes by now! Flapper
User is suspended until 23/03/4752 12:54:35(UTC) Mulldog Lemon  
#18 Posted : 27 April 2014 02:55:12(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: ariete Go to Quoted Post
Hi all as new member to this forum, I hope I have not started a post that has already been covered. But I have a thing about Marklin shop advertising, I like the little Marklin signs that used to put on shelves among the goods for sale. One item I would dearly like to see a photo or in fact anyting of, is I think it was from the 50's or 60s about 30 or more centimeters long and about 7 or so high, made of cardboard or paper mache and three dimensional. The world MARKLIN in I think blue, red and silver, but my memory is a little vague it was about 40 years ago. Anyone remember this?


What are these 'shops' and 'shelves' of which you speak?

UserPostedImage
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#19 Posted : 27 April 2014 04:14:11(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mulldog Lemon Go to Quoted Post
What are these 'shops' and 'shelves' of which you speak?


Marklin Dealers, and the factory supplied advertising material available to those dealers.
User is suspended until 23/03/4752 12:54:35(UTC) Mulldog Lemon  
#20 Posted : 27 April 2014 04:27:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Mulldog Lemon Go to Quoted Post
What are these 'shops' and 'shelves' of which you speak?


Marklin Dealers, and the factory supplied advertising material available to those dealers.


What are these 'Marklin Dealers' that you speak of?

I once got a pen with 'Marklin' on it from Two4Toys.
I got a bag of liqourice all-sorts from Maddog-Trains (no relation) once. It has a black and red steamer and Marklin written on it.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#21 Posted : 27 April 2014 04:54:56(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mulldog Lemon Go to Quoted Post
What are these 'Marklin Dealers' that you speak of?


All and every Marklin Dealer, both past and present. They have access to advertising material direct from the Marklin factory which they can use for in shop displays. The items aren't normally available to you and me, but sometimes a former dealer might sell items off, such as the signs that Cookee is displaying.
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Offline cookee_nz  
#22 Posted : 27 April 2014 12:50:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Mulldog Lemon Go to Quoted Post
What are these 'Marklin Dealers' that you speak of?


All and every Marklin Dealer, both past and present. They have access to advertising material direct from the Marklin factory which they can use for in shop displays. The items aren't normally available to you and me, but sometimes a former dealer might sell items off, such as the signs that Cookee is displaying.


BD, I suspect mulldog is being a bit facetious, referring to a time when indeed there were Märklin dealers (more than one) with stocked shelves in every city and some smaller towns besides.

Ah the good old days. Heck we had at least three of them around Wellington alone. The Lamphouse, Modelcrafts & Hobbies and Smiths Cycles.

Flapper

Cheers

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Offline RayF  
#23 Posted : 27 April 2014 13:01:18(UTC)
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There was even a Marklin dealer here in tiny Gibraltar. I believe the shop was called "EMDA", though I don't have a clue what that means.

There was a large layout in the shop window with trains running all the time. I used to make my Mum stop in front of this window every time she took me down Main Street.

Indeed, the good old days!
Ray
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Offline kbvrod  
#24 Posted : 27 April 2014 17:16:24(UTC)
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Hi all,
A friend of mine from the ETE had a globe with a M train running inside,in his train room.Any info? I was stunned to see this,it was excellent!BigGrin

Dr D
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Offline CCS800KrokHunter3  
#25 Posted : 27 April 2014 18:37:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kbvrod Go to Quoted Post
Hi all,
A friend of mine from the ETE had a globe with a M train running inside,in his train room.Any info? I was stunned to see this,it was excellent!BigGrin

Dr D


Maybe similar to this one?

http://tischbahn.de/2009...aeumsschaustueck-globus/

Don't know if a train runs inside on that one...

Paul
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Offline kbvrod  
#26 Posted : 28 April 2014 14:02:51(UTC)
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Paul,
Thank you! That maybe it!

Dr D
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