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nevw		#1 Posted : 21 July 2012 23:56:33(UTC)
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,304 Location: Strathpine QLD		I went to a 2 rail Club buy and sell yesterday on the maybe vague hopes that I may find something interesting. I did, well the FD spotted them. Firstly a Hamo 8356 Crock in Pristine Condition including the Box and original papers. That shortly will be converted to 3 rail and a lokpilot decoder. A very economical price of $70 Then she pointed out another, a S3/6 in a yellowish colour, no box and tied to a piece of cardboard with a note. "Could not test but it looks OK and in good order". $20. We took the punt and shortly it was home. It was in almost new in looks. Identified as a 37185 BR 18.4, bayerische S3/6 with a Digital decoder (8 dip switches.). Loaded the loco from the Data base and wow away it went. The longer it ran the better it went. Most likely the best $20 ever spent. Now there is a small problem in converting the Crock. I will need to find some Un-insulated wheels as I have a lot of contact track so in some cases the loco will come to a stop. It would appear that the wheels for the 3356 are not available so would the wheels from the 3556 fit? the part number for the 3356 wheels are 234200 (2 I think) and the wheels to the 3556 are 295690 (1 required) and one 295630. Looking at the loc again, I only need two wheels as the wiper is on the front and rear wheel. another way would be to keep the wheel wiper on the insulated wheels and mount the slider on the smae mounting and drill a hole up for the slider power wire. Would that be feasible ? all advice and assistance greatly appreciated. Thanks, Nev Edited by user 22 July 2012 00:13:10(UTC) \| Reason: add some more and do an edit
		wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now have a new shiny tin Hip Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around


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franciscohg		#2 Posted : 22 July 2012 00:46:50(UTC)
Joined: 10/07/2002(UTC) Posts: 2,093 Location: Patagonia		Cannot write a proper reply, envy is eating my brain....... :)
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river6109		#3 Posted : 22 July 2012 05:40:56(UTC)
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 9,346 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Some of us know there are trained sniffer dogs out there to find truffle, drugs or other hard things to find, our member Nev seem to be trained sniffing out cheap locos and to get his member trophy award he has to tell us about it . John
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xxup		#4 Posted : 22 July 2012 06:22:25(UTC)
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 6,027 Location: Australia		Originally Posted by: river6109 Some of us know there are trained sniffer dogs out there to find truffle, drugs or other hard things to find, our member Nev seem to be trained sniffing out cheap locos and to get his member trophy award he has to tell us about it . John The man is just incredibly lucky!
		Adrian

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cookee_nz		#5 Posted : 22 July 2012 08:41:18(UTC)
Joined: 31/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 1,502 Location: Wellington		Originally Posted by: nevw I went to a 2 rail Club buy and sell yesterday on the maybe vague hopes that I may find something interesting. I did, well the FD spotted them. Firstly a Hamo 8356 Crock in Pristine Condition including the Box and original papers. That shortly will be converted to 3 rail and a lokpilot decoder. A very economical price of $70 Then she pointed out another, a S3/6 in a yellowish colour, no box and tied to a piece of cardboard with a note. "Could not test but it looks OK and in good order". $20. We took the punt and shortly it was home. It was in almost new in looks. Identified as a 37185 BR 18.4, bayerische S3/6 with a Digital decoder (8 dip switches.). Loaded the loco from the Data base and wow away it went. The longer it ran the better it went. Most likely the best $20 ever spent. Now there is a small problem in converting the Crock. I will need to find some Un-insulated wheels as I have a lot of contact track so in some cases the loco will come to a stop. It would appear that the wheels for the 3356 are not available so would the wheels from the 3556 fit? the part number for the 3356 wheels are 234200 (2 I think) and the wheels to the 3556 are 295690 (1 required) and one 295630. Looking at the loc again, I only need two wheels as the wiper is on the front and rear wheel. another way would be to keep the wheel wiper on the insulated wheels and mount the slider on the smae mounting and drill a hole up for the slider power wire. Would that be feasible ? all advice and assistance greatly appreciated. Thanks, Nev I HATE YOU!!! Sadly there's no green envy face icon. As I read your post, before I got to the end I immediately thought of the existing wheel-wiper, I recall removing it from my Hamo conversion and was going to suggest exactly what you then thought of yourself. Without knowing the specifics of that model, is it possible to have a wiper on one frame, and pickup on the other?, worst thing is that it might restrict you to running in one direction only. Do you think you would be able to fashion a combined wiper/pickup on the same mounting? It poses an interesting problem and I'll be interested to know how you get on. Regards Steve (the green-eyed dragon)
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cookee_nz		#6 Posted : 22 July 2012 08:46:15(UTC)
Joined: 31/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 1,502 Location: Wellington		Originally Posted by: nevw I went to a 2 rail Club buy and sell yesterday on the maybe vague hopes that I may find something interesting. I did, well the FD spotted them. Firstly a Hamo 8356 Crock in Pristine Condition including the Box and original papers. That shortly will be converted to 3 rail and a lokpilot decoder. A very economical price of $70 Then she pointed out another, a S3/6 in a yellowish colour, no box and tied to a piece of cardboard with a note. "Could not test but it looks OK and in good order". $20. We took the punt and shortly it was home. It was in almost new in looks. Identified as a 37185 BR 18.4, bayerische S3/6 with a Digital decoder (8 dip switches.). Loaded the loco from the Data base and wow away it went. The longer it ran the better it went. Most likely the best $20 ever spent. Now there is a small problem in converting the Crock. I will need to find some Un-insulated wheels as I have a lot of contact track so in some cases the loco will come to a stop. It would appear that the wheels for the 3356 are not available so would the wheels from the 3556 fit? the part number for the 3356 wheels are 234200 (2 I think) and the wheels to the 3556 are 295690 (1 required) and one 295630. Looking at the loc again, I only need two wheels as the wiper is on the front and rear wheel. another way would be to keep the wheel wiper on the insulated wheels and mount the slider on the smae mounting and drill a hole up for the slider power wire. Would that be feasible ? all advice and assistance greatly appreciated. Thanks, Nev I HATE YOU!!! Sadly there's no green envy face icon. As I read your post, before I got to the end I immediately thought of the existing wheel-wiper, I recall removing it from my Hamo conversion and was going to suggest exactly what you then thought of yourself. Without knowing the specifics of that model, is it possible to have a wiper on one frame, and pickup on the other?, worst thing is that it might restrict you to running in one direction only. Do you think you would be able to fashion a combined wiper/pickup on the same mounting? It poses an interesting problem and I'll be interested to know how you get on. It just goes to show that thinking outside the box can lead to pleasant surprises and really warrants posting in this topic (your most profitable find) Regards Steve (the green-eyed dragon)
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Ian555		#7 Posted : 22 July 2012 08:59:08(UTC)
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 17,050 Location: Scotland		Hi Nev, Very good , did you pay for them with Scottish pounds. Ian.

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kariosls37		#8 Posted : 22 July 2012 09:51:27(UTC)
Joined: 02/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 993 Location: Auckland, New Zealand		Congrats on the bargain Nev.

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nevw		#9 Posted : 22 July 2012 10:00:41(UTC)
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,304 Location: Strathpine QLD		Originally Posted by: Ian555 Hi Nev, Very good , did you pay for them with Scottish pounds. Ian. Ian No I used Nigerian Pounds at the official rate. and it was a great bargain. Now to do some thinking and to see if it is possible to do what I want. Also the wheels will have to be re-gauged. NN
		wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now have a new shiny tin Hip Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around


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Ian555		#10 Posted : 22 July 2012 10:13:42(UTC)
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 17,050 Location: Scotland		Hi Nev, I'm sure you can/will get it sorted. Ian.

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river6109		#11 Posted : 22 July 2012 10:23:07(UTC)
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 9,346 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Cookee wrote: I hate you twice, poor fellow can' t control his desires John
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utkan		#12 Posted : 22 July 2012 11:12:26(UTC)
Joined: 13/07/2009(UTC) Posts: 9,638 Location: Istanbul,		Not only lucky but also knows the business.....
		The world is analog!

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nevw		#13 Posted : 22 July 2012 22:48:21(UTC)
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,304 Location: Strathpine QLD		Originally Posted by: cookee_nz I HATE YOU!!! Sadly there's no green envy face icon. Steve (the green-eyed dragon) Steve your had your chance in Geelong but was too lazy to go 45 Miles to go down to look. Stiff I say. You had a chance on Saturday but you allowed yourself to be deported to the eastern islands and it was too much trouble to come to Brisbane. Nev (Larfing all the way home)
		wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now have a new shiny tin Hip Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around


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nevw		#14 Posted : 22 July 2012 22:49:59(UTC)
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,304 Location: Strathpine QLD		Originally Posted by: xxup The man is just incredibly lucky! I just got up early , not like some folk.
		wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now have a new shiny tin Hip Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around


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nevw		#15 Posted : 23 July 2012 02:15:12(UTC)
Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,304 Location: Strathpine QLD		Conversion problem solved. Got a new AC Bogie complete with wheels at a great price on Fleabay. Thanks Dave for finding it NN
		wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now have a new shiny tin Hip Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around


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xxup		#16 Posted : 23 July 2012 03:46:38(UTC)
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 6,027 Location: Australia		Originally Posted by: nevw Conversion problem solved. Got a new AC Bogie complete with wheels at a great price on Fleabay. Thanks Dave for finding it NN Oh Good Grief - Is there no end to this torment..
		Adrian

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Bigdaddynz		#17 Posted : 23 July 2012 05:02:29(UTC)
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 12,295 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: xxup Oh Good Grief - Is there no end to this torment.. Next, he will be wanting to show us his bogeys........ Yetch!
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river6109		#18 Posted : 23 July 2012 06:12:43(UTC)
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 9,346 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Originally Posted by: xxup Oh Good Grief - Is there no end to this torment.. Next, he will be wanting to show us his bogeys........ Yetch! Have you ask Nev for any close up pictures ?
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RayF		#19 Posted : 23 July 2012 07:25:53(UTC)
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 9,945 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Great deal, Nev! Looks like you've got the conversion licked too! Well done!
		Ray from the Rock. Mostly Marklin Era III & IV 6021 replaced with MS2

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