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Offline nevw  
#1 Posted : 21 July 2012 23:56:33(UTC)
nevw

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I went to a 2 rail Club buy and sell yesterday on the maybe vague hopes that I may find something interesting.
I did, well the FD spotted them.

Firstly a Hamo 8356 Crock in Pristine Condition including the Box and original papers. That shortly will be converted to 3 rail and a lokpilot decoder.
A very economical price of $70

Then she pointed out another, a S3/6 in a yellowish colour, no box and tied to a piece of cardboard with a note. "Could not test but it looks OK and in good order". $20.

We took the punt and shortly it was home.
It was in almost new in looks. Identified as a 37185 BR 18.4, bayerische S3/6 with a Digital decoder (8 dip switches.). Loaded the loco from the Data base and wow away it went. The longer it ran the better it went.

Most likely the best $20 ever spent.

Now there is a small problem in converting the Crock. I will need to find some Un-insulated wheels as I have a lot of contact track so in some cases the loco will come to a stop.
It would appear that the wheels for the 3356 are not available so would the wheels from the 3556 fit?

the part number for the 3356 wheels are 234200 (2 I think) and the wheels to the 3556 are 295690 (1 required) and one 295630.
Looking at the loc again, I only need two wheels as the wiper is on the front and rear wheel.

another way would be to keep the wheel wiper on the insulated wheels and mount the slider on the smae mounting and drill a hole up for the slider power wire. Would that be feasible ?
all advice and assistance greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Nev

Edited by user 22 July 2012 00:13:10(UTC)  | Reason: add some more and do an edit

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Offline franciscohg  
#2 Posted : 22 July 2012 00:46:50(UTC)
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Cannot write a proper reply, envy is eating my brain....... :)
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Offline river6109  
#3 Posted : 22 July 2012 05:40:56(UTC)
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Some of us know there are trained sniffer dogs out there to find truffle, drugs or other hard things to find, our member Nev seem to be trained sniffing out cheap locos and to get his member trophy award he has to tell us about itLOL .

John
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Offline xxup  
#4 Posted : 22 July 2012 06:22:25(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
Some of us know there are trained sniffer dogs out there to find truffle, drugs or other hard things to find, our member Nev seem to be trained sniffing out cheap locos and to get his member trophy award he has to tell us about itLOL .

John


The man is just incredibly lucky! RollEyes
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Offline cookee_nz  
#5 Posted : 22 July 2012 08:41:18(UTC)
cookee_nz

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Originally Posted by: nevw Go to Quoted Post
I went to a 2 rail Club buy and sell yesterday on the maybe vague hopes that I may find something interesting.
I did, well the FD spotted them.

Firstly a Hamo 8356 Crock in Pristine Condition including the Box and original papers. That shortly will be converted to 3 rail and a lokpilot decoder.
A very economical price of $70

Then she pointed out another, a S3/6 in a yellowish colour, no box and tied to a piece of cardboard with a note. "Could not test but it looks OK and in good order". $20.

We took the punt and shortly it was home.
It was in almost new in looks. Identified as a 37185 BR 18.4, bayerische S3/6 with a Digital decoder (8 dip switches.). Loaded the loco from the Data base and wow away it went. The longer it ran the better it went.

Most likely the best $20 ever spent.

Now there is a small problem in converting the Crock. I will need to find some Un-insulated wheels as I have a lot of contact track so in some cases the loco will come to a stop.
It would appear that the wheels for the 3356 are not available so would the wheels from the 3556 fit?

the part number for the 3356 wheels are 234200 (2 I think) and the wheels to the 3556 are 295690 (1 required) and one 295630.
Looking at the loc again, I only need two wheels as the wiper is on the front and rear wheel.

another way would be to keep the wheel wiper on the insulated wheels and mount the slider on the smae mounting and drill a hole up for the slider power wire. Would that be feasible ?
all advice and assistance greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Nev


I HATE YOU!!! BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin

Sadly there's no green envy face icon.

As I read your post, before I got to the end I immediately thought of the existing wheel-wiper, I recall removing it from my Hamo conversion and was going to suggest exactly what you then thought of yourself.

Without knowing the specifics of that model, is it possible to have a wiper on one frame, and pickup on the other?, worst thing is that it might restrict you to running in one direction only. Do you think you would be able to fashion a combined wiper/pickup on the same mounting?

It poses an interesting problem and I'll be interested to know how you get on.

Regards

Steve (the green-eyed dragon)
Cookee
Wellington
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Offline cookee_nz  
#6 Posted : 22 July 2012 08:46:15(UTC)
cookee_nz

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Originally Posted by: nevw Go to Quoted Post
I went to a 2 rail Club buy and sell yesterday on the maybe vague hopes that I may find something interesting.
I did, well the FD spotted them.

Firstly a Hamo 8356 Crock in Pristine Condition including the Box and original papers. That shortly will be converted to 3 rail and a lokpilot decoder.
A very economical price of $70

Then she pointed out another, a S3/6 in a yellowish colour, no box and tied to a piece of cardboard with a note. "Could not test but it looks OK and in good order". $20.

We took the punt and shortly it was home.
It was in almost new in looks. Identified as a 37185 BR 18.4, bayerische S3/6 with a Digital decoder (8 dip switches.). Loaded the loco from the Data base and wow away it went. The longer it ran the better it went.

Most likely the best $20 ever spent.

Now there is a small problem in converting the Crock. I will need to find some Un-insulated wheels as I have a lot of contact track so in some cases the loco will come to a stop.
It would appear that the wheels for the 3356 are not available so would the wheels from the 3556 fit?

the part number for the 3356 wheels are 234200 (2 I think) and the wheels to the 3556 are 295690 (1 required) and one 295630.
Looking at the loc again, I only need two wheels as the wiper is on the front and rear wheel.

another way would be to keep the wheel wiper on the insulated wheels and mount the slider on the smae mounting and drill a hole up for the slider power wire. Would that be feasible ?
all advice and assistance greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Nev


I HATE YOU!!! BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin

Sadly there's no green envy face icon.

As I read your post, before I got to the end I immediately thought of the existing wheel-wiper, I recall removing it from my Hamo conversion and was going to suggest exactly what you then thought of yourself.

Without knowing the specifics of that model, is it possible to have a wiper on one frame, and pickup on the other?, worst thing is that it might restrict you to running in one direction only. Do you think you would be able to fashion a combined wiper/pickup on the same mounting?

It poses an interesting problem and I'll be interested to know how you get on.

It just goes to show that thinking outside the box can lead to pleasant surprises and really warrants posting in this topic (your most profitable find)

Regards

Steve (the green-eyed dragon)
Cookee
Wellington
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Offline Ian555  
#7 Posted : 22 July 2012 08:59:08(UTC)
Ian555

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Hi Nev,

Very good ThumpUp, did you pay for them with Scottish pounds.Smile

Ian.

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Offline kariosls37  
#8 Posted : 22 July 2012 09:51:27(UTC)
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Congrats on the bargain Nev.

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Offline nevw  
#9 Posted : 22 July 2012 10:00:41(UTC)
nevw

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Originally Posted by: Ian555 Go to Quoted Post
Hi Nev,

Very good ThumpUp, did you pay for them with Scottish pounds.Smile

Ian.



Ian No I used Nigerian Pounds at the official rate. Flapper Flapper

and it was a great bargain. Now to do some thinking and to see if it is possible to do what I want.

Also the wheels will have to be re-gauged.

NN
wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now have a new shiny tin Hip that is badly in Need of Repair
Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
Offline Ian555  
#10 Posted : 22 July 2012 10:13:42(UTC)
Ian555

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Hi Nev,

I'm sure you can/will get it sorted. ThumpUp

Ian.

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Offline river6109  
#11 Posted : 22 July 2012 10:23:07(UTC)
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Cookee wrote: I hate you twice, poor fellow can' t control his desiresLOL

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Offline utkan  
#12 Posted : 22 July 2012 11:12:26(UTC)
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Location: Istanbul,
Not only lucky but also knows the business.....BigGrin ThumpUp
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The world is analog!
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Offline nevw  
#13 Posted : 22 July 2012 22:48:21(UTC)
nevw

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Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Go to Quoted Post


I HATE YOU!!! BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin

Sadly there's no green envy face icon.


Steve (the green-eyed dragon)



Steve your had your chance in Geelong but was too lazy to go 45 Miles to go down to look. Stiff I say. LOL

You had a chance on Saturday but you allowed yourself to be deported to the eastern islands and it was too much trouble to come to Brisbane. RollEyes RollEyes Woot

Nev (Larfing all the way home)ThumpUp ThumpUp Flapper Flapper Flapper Love
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Offline nevw  
#14 Posted : 22 July 2012 22:49:59(UTC)
nevw

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Originally Posted by: xxup Go to Quoted Post


The man is just incredibly lucky! RollEyes


I just got up early , not like some folk.

Flapper RollEyes RollEyes ThumpUp

wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now have a new shiny tin Hip that is badly in Need of Repair
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Offline nevw  
#15 Posted : 23 July 2012 02:15:12(UTC)
nevw

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Posts: 11,550
Location: Strathpine QLD
Conversion problem solved. Got a new AC Bogie complete with wheels at a great price on Fleabay.
Thanks Dave for finding it ThumpUp ThumpUp
NN
wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now have a new shiny tin Hip that is badly in Need of Repair
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Offline xxup  
#16 Posted : 23 July 2012 03:46:38(UTC)
xxup

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Location: Australia
Originally Posted by: nevw Go to Quoted Post
Conversion problem solved. Got a new AC Bogie complete with wheels at a great price on Fleabay.
Thanks Dave for finding it ThumpUp ThumpUp
NN


Oh Good Grief - Is there no end to this torment.. Wink
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#17 Posted : 23 July 2012 05:02:29(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: xxup Go to Quoted Post
Oh Good Grief - Is there no end to this torment.. Wink




Next, he will be wanting to show us his bogeys........

Yetch! Flapper
Offline river6109  
#18 Posted : 23 July 2012 06:12:43(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: xxup Go to Quoted Post
Oh Good Grief - Is there no end to this torment.. Wink




Next, he will be wanting to show us his bogeys........

Yetch! Flapper


Have you ask Nev for any close up pictures ?LOL

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Offline RayF  
#19 Posted : 23 July 2012 07:25:53(UTC)
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Great deal, Nev!

Looks like you've got the conversion licked too! Well done!
Ray

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