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Hi Guys.
Does anyone know which control switches i need for a 451 G crane (early version ) ?
Neil.
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Neil, is this what you are looking for: http://www.ebay.com/itm/...-Crane-HTF-/120897658420 ? This will also work: Märklin Control Box 97279 in newer grey box. Edited by user 28 April 2012 09:34:33(UTC)
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Eckert Engineering on US ebay have the newer (white) control boxes.
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Hi Neil, The early version came with a pair of switches like these (one of each). But they had special stickers and were numbered 474/51 and 475/51. But there is no technical difference.  Regards Markus
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Hi Markus. Yes they look like the ones, all metal construction types. Will get some on ebay DE site, none here in UK !!  Thanks Neil. |
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Does anyone know if the mechanisms and gearboxes on the early 451 G cranes are the same as the later 70** series ?
Can the drive parts on later versions be swapped over and used for donor parts on early versions if needed ?.
They are well engineered inside.
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Hi Neil,
Yes, the drive parts of the 7072 would fit mechanical also in the early version. But in detail a 1950s part every-time looks a little bit different from the later ones. Due to historic reasons I would avoid to mix up new parts in an old crane. It is always cheaper to buy a model in good working condition than restoring one.
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Originally Posted by: DaveB  Yes, that's them!
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I gather you can use the 7072 control boxes as well,which would be a lot cheaper,perhaps someone could explain how this is done? |
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Originally Posted by: drstapes I gather you can use the 7072 control boxes as well,which would be a lot cheaper,perhaps someone could explain how this is done? Hi Geoff, Yes, this can be done, but you need an additional control - box 7210. The functions "up/down" and "rotate" must be connected to the 7072, the magnet and the light (these are two functions at early cranes) to the 7210. Regards Markus
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Marcus,
Thanks for your reply,
You really have the answer to everything!
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Thanks guy's for all your interesting answers on this post !
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Hello Neil, for the cran 451 G you need two control panels, panel 474/51 for "turn left", "turn rigt", "up" and "down" and panel 475/51 for light und magnetic funtions. Regards Wolf  
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Originally Posted by: 20-VOLT-AC Thanks guy's for all your interesting answers on this post !
Neil.
Neil I have an extra control for that crane, but later (blue) version . It's yours, just send me an MP with your coordinates Cheers Jacques |
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