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Offline klarinettmeister  
#1 Posted : 15 March 2012 07:35:49(UTC)
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Hi all!

By request I'm starting a new thread about this wonderful model of the Big Boy by Märklin and the real thing.

There have been many questions by us users about the models that you can't find in the catalogue, google (until now), etc.

Please share informative pictures, videos and experiences.

The first information I can contribute to is about the newest model 37994. I also think some of this applies to 37991, 37992 and 37993. Could somone confirm this as my 91 and 93 are in there boxes?
All functions are separate and can be mapped to whatever button you want. You also can map functions to "drive" and "stop". The smoke generator are. On 94 the smoke generator contacts are connected to AUX3 and can therefore be assigned to another button. On the 91 model this is permanently on. On the 93 I don't remember how the functions are mapped.

If you want to do some service under the engine like oiling it's best to turn it upside by following these steps (I have done this twice)

1. Put the engine on the wooden base and secure it with all the 3 screws.
2. Remove the big foam from the wooden box and turn it upside down.
3. Carefully put the base with the engine upside down in the foam.
4. Carefully unscrew the base and remove the base carefully.

The hardest part is to secure it to the base again as the foam is deeper than the engine. You have to push the base in the foam AND find the holes for the screws and secure the screws. Then it's just to turn the base with the engine carefully out of the foam.

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Offline Ian555  
#2 Posted : 15 March 2012 08:09:12(UTC)
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Hi David,

Thanks, this will be a very interesting thread. ThumpUp

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#3 Posted : 15 March 2012 08:10:22(UTC)
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I have 37993 and 37994 is on the way!
Offline Tony  
#4 Posted : 15 March 2012 08:40:43(UTC)
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37994 on the way - should get it this weekendBigGrin This is my first HO purchase in many many months.
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Offline Ian555  
#5 Posted : 15 March 2012 08:58:30(UTC)
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Hi all,

Couple of photo's of my Insider 37990 BigBoy.

Ian.


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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#6 Posted : 15 March 2012 09:14:22(UTC)
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And some of 37993.......

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Offline DamonKelly  
#7 Posted : 15 March 2012 11:11:10(UTC)
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Here's the real thing:

BB 4023 in Omaha, NE

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Offline kbvrod  
#8 Posted : 15 March 2012 12:16:56(UTC)
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Hi all,





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Offline Ian555  
#9 Posted : 15 March 2012 15:56:48(UTC)
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Hi all,

Little and large.

BigBoy and Limmat.

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Offline steventrain  
#10 Posted : 15 March 2012 21:24:10(UTC)
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Nice pictures, Dave.Smile
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Offline klarinettmeister  
#11 Posted : 15 March 2012 22:38:35(UTC)
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Really nice contributions by everyone!

Ian, I noted that there´s a railing that´s loose on your Big Boy on the first pictures. Thanks for the comparison shot!

The videos were great! I´ve shared one of them on my Facebook already. BigGrin
Offline Nielsenr  
#12 Posted : 16 March 2012 03:00:51(UTC)
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I have a 37993 and have pre-ordered a 37994. Just waiting for the 37994 to get delivered to the States.

Robert
Offline klarinettmeister  
#13 Posted : 16 March 2012 08:48:17(UTC)
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Nice Robert. BigGrin

Seems that most people here have the 37993 and also have bought/preordered 37994.
Offline DaveB  
#14 Posted : 16 March 2012 09:25:33(UTC)
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37992 BigBoy being tweaked with my lokprogrammer.

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Offline EMD_GP7  
#15 Posted : 16 March 2012 12:37:15(UTC)
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The photos below show some other types of locomotives used alongside "Big Boys" on Sherman Hill, Wyoming which is where the locos worked.
I hope they are of interest to you.

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The "Big Boy" is No. 4020 and is a brass model by Key Brass and factory painted.
I have Big boys from Trix and Marklin but these are screwed to their "planks" and this loco was easiest to use as a comparison.

The centre loco is a "Veranda Turbine" by Lionel and has sound and DCC control.
These locos were introduced in the 50's and three types were produced and were discontinued when increased oil prices made them uneconomic.
About 50 were built in total in 4,500 and 8500 HP versions.

The Other locos are EMD GP9 A&B "Road switcher" units which became the predominant type of loco used for freight throughout the USA as they could be combined into suitable "Horsepowers" to suit the load and all controlled from one loco.

The VW "Draisine" is included for size comparison and is by Eheim/Brawa.

Regards, Colin.
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Offline Ian555  
#16 Posted : 16 March 2012 14:14:10(UTC)
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Hi Colin,

Wonderful models, thanks for the photo's. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline Ian555  
#17 Posted : 17 March 2012 04:57:18(UTC)
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Hi all,

Here's my Insider 37990 BigBoy on the layout.

Ian.



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Offline Ian555  
#18 Posted : 17 March 2012 10:59:58(UTC)
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Hi all,

e-mail this morning from Lokshop....order status - 37994 - RS - ordered at producer.

Looks like I'm waiting another week.

Ian.

Offline klarinettmeister  
#19 Posted : 22 March 2012 22:44:27(UTC)
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Ian, what button do you use for the dog sound? BigGrin
Offline dntower85  
#20 Posted : 23 March 2012 02:24:43(UTC)
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Here is my 37990 that I just got. Best timing of a new post for me.



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Offline dntower85  
#21 Posted : 23 March 2012 02:33:48(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post
Ian, what button do you use for the dog sound? BigGrin


Yes Ian I tried to find that button too, I think do to the old design using two decoders it must be a combo of two functions just as the whistel changes with f4 pushed.

I hit some random functions and it meowed. :-)

DT
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era - some time in the future when the space time continuum is disrupted and ICE 3 Trains run on the same rails as the Adler and BR18's.
Offline dntower85  
#22 Posted : 23 March 2012 02:49:40(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post
Ian, what button do you use for the dog sound? BigGrin


Yes Ian I tried to find that button too, I think do to the old design using two decoders it must be a combo of two functions just as the whistel changes with f4 pushed.

I hit some random functions and it meowed. :-)

DT
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era - some time in the future when the space time continuum is disrupted and ICE 3 Trains run on the same rails as the Adler and BR18's.
Offline Ian555  
#23 Posted : 23 March 2012 06:40:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post
Ian, what button do you use for the dog sound? BigGrin



Hi David,

I use the woof button. LOL

Ian.

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Offline Ian555  
#24 Posted : 23 March 2012 06:43:33(UTC)
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Hi Darrin,

Enjoyed watching your video. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline Ian555  
#25 Posted : 23 March 2012 06:46:27(UTC)
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Hi Darrin,

Sometimes, when I'm in the train room and I am recording, the "woof noise" just automatically starts. Smile

Ian.

Offline john black  
#26 Posted : 01 April 2012 12:08:18(UTC)
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Congratulations and a big thanks, David - a topic on the BB is overdue for quite some time !!! Cool Cool Cool
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Offline john black  
#27 Posted : 01 April 2012 13:05:44(UTC)
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Loverly videos too, friends ... Laugh

Well, I do own just #4012 (M's release #37991 from year 2005) ...
and being restricted to a small layout she'll be my only BB, alas Sad
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Offline gachar001  
#28 Posted : 02 April 2012 15:55:08(UTC)
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Are there any visual differences between the 37993 and 37994?
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Offline H0  
#29 Posted : 02 April 2012 17:33:01(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gachar001 Go to Quoted Post
Are there any visual differences between the 37993 and 37994?
Yes, besides the smoke deflectors, the coal area of the tender is different (extra frame with 37993 for higher capacity), and something's different at the handrails at the front (maybe used as a cooler?).

Pictures of the older Big Boys:
http://www.marklin-users...klin-Big-Boy-models.aspx

Pictures of the new Big Boy 37994:
http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/rVMGJ9CiOh8/hqdefault.jpg
http://www.xbe.es/trens/oferta/bigboy1.jpg

Edited by user 02 April 2012 17:41:18(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Regards
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Offline klarinettmeister  
#30 Posted : 02 April 2012 18:20:39(UTC)
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Yesterday (I know it was 1st April yesterday) I took my 4 Big Boys out of their boxes and made some pictures and videos. They are now in their boxes, waiting for a layout!

I´ll start sharing the pictures and give some text. And here you´ll see the differences. On all the pictures from the front you´ll see them in the order from right (37990, 37991, 37993, 37994). In the background is the most impressive Walthers Blast Furnace. Enjoy. If you´re interested I´ll post the videos too. On them you´ll see all running with sounds and also one video without sounds so that you can hear the sounds of the motors.

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37994, 37993, 37991, 37990

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Let there be light! The 37990 has a front light and also a brighter light beam which is totally useless I think. The 37993 and 37994 have white LEDs.

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All 4 Big Boys from the side. Note where the smoke deflectors are installed on the 37994. I think I´ve misaligned one pipe on the picture. Need to investigate this... I´ve installed 2*7226 in the 37994.

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From above.

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Sorry, I´m a bad photographer...

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It´s magic.

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On this picture I´ve circled everything that´s visually new to the 37993 and 37994.

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The news catolouge says changes on the new tender. Where??? All 4 tenders looks the same to me!

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The 37994 Big Boy upside-down. Note the new pick-up shoe which looks like it came from an old 3005. The 37994 is much more sensitive on the tracks than the older models. Why change something that´s good??

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Front truck on 37994.

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The "newer" type of pick-up shoe. Much more sensitive than the older models!?!

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The tender of 37994

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Yes! The problem with the screw to the front truck is back!! The screw is really loose and I suspect the screw loosened up when the loco was running on my oval. It unscrewed totally when I tried to screw it back on the base upside-down. It´s possible to screw it on using a small screw-driver at the same angle as I show you on the picture. You don´t need to remove the motor, just the front decoder and the smoke generator contact holders and use very much light.

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Very clean!!

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X4013!!

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X4006!!
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Offline klarinettmeister  
#31 Posted : 02 April 2012 18:23:52(UTC)
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Tom, you were faster than me. BigGrin

Now I see the difference on the tender. Look at the picture from behind. On the 37994 it´s perfectly curved at the coal bunker, whereas the others aren´t equally curved. Thanks!
Offline Ian555  
#32 Posted : 02 April 2012 18:49:28(UTC)
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Hi David,

Wonderful photos, thanks for the time taken to set that all up. ThumpUp

Ian.

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Offline H0  
#33 Posted : 02 April 2012 19:07:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post
Tom, you were faster than me. BigGrin
I only searched for pictures - you marked and uploaded pictures.

BTW: another difference: my 37993 came with ESU decoder, the new 37994 comes with Märklin decoder and sounds differently.
I prefer the ESU sound, but some prefer the Märklin sound.
Earlier Big Boys have the pre-mfx Märklin sound which is less dynamic than modern sound decoders.

Some say that some 37993 also came with Märklin decoders.
Regards
Tom
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Offline klarinettmeister  
#34 Posted : 02 April 2012 19:24:45(UTC)
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Who knows... As there are different batches and we know that Märklin don´t inform their costumers of any changes.

I actually prefer the newest one, Märklin. Mostly because of the click-clack sound. But I´m a little worried about the new motor. It will be interesting to follow all the Youtube-videos. Here´s my latest. All sound functions on all the 4 Big Boys at the same time! Now the pipe is fixed. There´s a small hole where the pipe's peg will fit in. If I were to keep only one loco-model it would be one of the Big Boys!

Big Boy test
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#35 Posted : 02 April 2012 20:50:19(UTC)
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Tom and David,
Thanks for the nice pictures.
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Offline john black  
#36 Posted : 03 April 2012 16:15:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post

The 37994 is much more sensitive on the tracks than the older models.
Why change something that´s good??

True words, David - talk about money ... LOL
BTW - by "more sensitive" do you mean dirt ?

Well, from my ~70 locos my BB (year 2005 #37991 w/ MFX-decoder)
is the one acting extremely picky when it comes to dusty track ThumbDown
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Offline klarinettmeister  
#37 Posted : 06 April 2012 10:42:41(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: john black Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post

The 37994 is much more sensitive on the tracks than the older models.
Why change something that´s good??

True words, David - talk about money ... LOL
BTW - by "more sensitive" do you mean dirt ?

Well, from my ~70 locos my BB (year 2005 #37991 w/ MFX-decoder)
is the one acting extremely picky when it comes to dusty track ThumbDown


John, I think it depends on the length of the pick-up shoe. I didn´t measure the pick-up shoes, but I think the new one is shorter. The pick-up shoe on the 37994 is similar to the older ones Märklin have used, like on the 3005.
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#38 Posted : 06 April 2012 11:30:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post
Yes! The problem with the screw to the front truck is back!! The screw is really loose and I suspect the screw loosened up when the loco was running on my oval. It unscrewed totally when I tried to screw it back on the base upside-down. It´s possible to screw it on using a small screw-driver at the same angle as I show you on the picture. You don´t need to remove the motor, just the front decoder and the smoke generator contact holders and use very much light.


Oh dear! I had the same problem with 37993, the screw was floating around inside the box when I got the loco. Hopefully 37994 is better - mine is somewhere between NZ Customs and me!
Offline klarinettmeister  
#39 Posted : 06 April 2012 12:11:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post
Yes! The problem with the screw to the front truck is back!! The screw is really loose and I suspect the screw loosened up when the loco was running on my oval. It unscrewed totally when I tried to screw it back on the base upside-down. It´s possible to screw it on using a small screw-driver at the same angle as I show you on the picture. You don´t need to remove the motor, just the front decoder and the smoke generator contact holders and use very much light.


Oh dear! I had the same problem with 37993, the screw was floating around inside the box when I got the loco. Hopefully 37994 is better - mine is somewhere between NZ Customs and me!


Just telling the truth. 37994 has the same problem... After I took the pictures from under the train I was supposed to screw it back on the board. I began in front and I accidently pulled too much. Then the front truck was loose... They should have a better design. Propably this design makes it easier to assemble the loco. The screw is too loose. The screw was loose on arrival on the 37990...
Offline Deborail  
#40 Posted : 06 April 2012 13:22:24(UTC)
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I have the 22598 BB UP 4011BigGrin - It is a trix version, I got it in 2010 from ETS (Germany), The loco has been my flagship in my layouts in Dubai and Fujairah UAE and now in Thailand. Unfortunately due to transportation, it developed a little jerking problem but I had it fixed and now it runs smoothly as before. What a loco!

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Offline Ian555  
#41 Posted : 07 April 2012 06:02:49(UTC)
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Hi David,

Great video. ThumpUp

Ian.

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Offline Ian555  
#42 Posted : 20 April 2012 14:36:13(UTC)
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Hi all,

e-mail from Lokshop, order for 37994 shipped today. Smile

Ian.

Offline Bigdaddynz  
#43 Posted : 20 April 2012 22:59:06(UTC)
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Thankfully, there were no loose screws when I received my 37994. Here's a photo I took of it.

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Offline Ian555  
#44 Posted : 21 April 2012 05:17:43(UTC)
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Hi David,

Great photo, looking forward to my own one arriving. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline Nielsenr  
#45 Posted : 21 April 2012 06:11:54(UTC)
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Picked up my Big Boy on Wednesday ... awesome looking loco!!

Robert
Offline Ian555  
#46 Posted : 21 April 2012 06:23:11(UTC)
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Hi Robert,

Smile ThumpUp ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline Ian555  
#47 Posted : 24 April 2012 11:59:13(UTC)
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Hi all,

Arrived this morning, carefully opened the box and all looks well. ThumpUp

Ian.

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#48 Posted : 24 April 2012 12:02:28(UTC)
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Very lovely, Ian.ThumpUp
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Offline Ian555  
#49 Posted : 24 April 2012 12:07:00(UTC)
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Hi Stephen,

Thanks. ThumpUp

Was a busy morning with parcels Smile , had a boxed 3075 arrive as well.

Ian.

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#50 Posted : 26 April 2012 10:01:38(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post
Yes! The problem with the screw to the front truck is back!! The screw is really loose and I suspect the screw loosened up when the loco was running on my oval. It unscrewed totally when I tried to screw it back on the base upside-down. It´s possible to screw it on using a small screw-driver at the same angle as I show you on the picture. You don´t need to remove the motor, just the front decoder and the smoke generator contact holders and use very much light.


Oh dear! I had the same problem with 37993, the screw was floating around inside the box when I got the loco. Hopefully 37994 is better - mine is somewhere between NZ Customs and me!



Hi David & BD,
Mine's on the way from Germany from LS too, as of Monday Morning, I hope you didn't & I don't have a pause and another contribution to HM Customs, Dave ? Cursing

As for this loose screw business, I thought it was the screw holding the front truck or bogie from underneath but David's pic shows him delving into the inards, so what screw is the problem David/Dave ? What do I need to look out for, as if we should need to Glare

Dennis tells me he had a loose screw in the box when he received his 37990, brand new ex factory, a few years ago too Confused

You would think Marklin would have this problem solved by now, does the screw come loose with use on these Locos Confused Cursing


PS; Lovely pics David, Dave and Ian ThumpUp
Glen
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Offline Ian555  
#51 Posted : 26 April 2012 10:27:55(UTC)
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Hi Glen,

Thanks. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline Bigdaddynz  
#52 Posted : 26 April 2012 11:06:56(UTC)
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I hope you didn't ............ another contribution to HM Customs, Dave ? Cursing



$270 unfortunately. Swines! (There was another loco in the package as well)
Offline Ian555  
#53 Posted : 26 April 2012 11:13:56(UTC)
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Hi David,

Does that work out the same as paying the 19% vat over here.

Ian.

Offline NZMarklinist  
#54 Posted : 26 April 2012 13:22:01(UTC)
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I hope you didn't ............ another contribution to HM Customs, Dave ? Cursing



$270 unfortunately. Swines! (There was another loco in the package as well)



Ouch Dave Crying Inspite of me asking for my Big Boy to be shipped on it's own, it's in a box from LS, with another Lok also, plus some bits and pieces so I might be in for a similar amount, maybe more Scared

Ian, our GST is 15%, but on the larger amounts they stick us with a few other fees and GST on them as well, Cursing just trying to spoil a MMRR's fun Sad So it works out close. With just the Big Boy only I'd have hoped to get away with it as they don't properly check every parcel. I'll know next week when my one crosses the border. ( ie; gets processed by NZ Post at Auckland Airport)
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Offline Ian555  
#55 Posted : 26 April 2012 13:48:29(UTC)
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Hi Glen,

One way or another...they get you.(us) Cursing

Ian.

Offline Armando  
#56 Posted : 26 April 2012 14:58:54(UTC)
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How many of you who have purchased 37994 have found that "mysterious" cylindrical screw sitting on the bottom of the wooden case? If so, I'd like to know:

1) Are we all referring to the same screw, in a cylindrical shape, approximately 8 mm long?
2) If so, David (Klarinettenmeiter) is showing a picture where the mysterious screw is supposed to be screwed back. However, there is no indication whatsoever in the Märklin explosion drawing for this loco about that cylindrical screw (if indeed it is "my" cylindrical screw) to go there. Well, at least for my layman's eyes.
3) Could someone please otherwise point for me in the Märklin explosion drawing the spot where the screw is supposed to go?

I feel that the Märklin Quality Control on this BB has "screwed" me this time. How come could a screw possibly be left loose on an almost $1,000 lok?
Best regards,
Armando García

Offline Bigdaddynz  
#57 Posted : 26 April 2012 20:37:46(UTC)
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Correction, it was $213. Just looking at the Customs invoice now.

GST on the locos was $174.90, but they add an Import Transaction fee ($22) and a Biosecurity levy ($11.10) and then GST on the levies/fees ($5)


Armando, AFAIK the screw goes into the front gearbox driving the front set of driving wheels. At least it was on my 37993.

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Offline Ian555  
#58 Posted : 27 April 2012 06:46:25(UTC)
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Hi all,

When I unpacked my BigBoy (37994), I didn't see this loose screw.

I haven't taken the Loco off it's base yet, could the screw be under the Loco??? (in between the Loco and the wooden stand.)

Ian.

Offline Western Pacific  
#59 Posted : 27 April 2012 10:54:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Correction, it was $213. Just looking at the Customs invoice now.

GST on the locos was $174.90, but they add an Import Transaction fee ($22) and a Bisosecurity levy ($11.10) and then GST on the levies/fees ($5)


Armando, AFAIK the screw goes into the front gearbox driving the front set of driving wheels. At least it was on my 37993.


Question: Should it read "Biosecurity levy ($11.10)"? and has this to do with the fact that the loco comes in a wooden box?

I have a recollection that both NZ and "the Western Island" have restrictions on importing wood and other plant related stuff.
Offline Jeremy Palmer  
#60 Posted : 27 April 2012 11:02:13(UTC)
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Hi Guys,

Thanks for taking the time to shoot and then post the photos 2 X ThumpUp ThumpUp ,

Jeremy.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#61 Posted : 27 April 2012 11:14:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Western Pacific Go to Quoted Post
Question: Should it read "Biosecurity levy ($11.10)"? and has this to do with the fact that the loco comes in a wooden box?

I have a recollection that both NZ and "the Western Island" have restrictions on importing wood and other plant related stuff.



Yes that's right, thanks for spotting the typo.


Yes, MAF are pretty strict about the importation of plant / wood material. NZ is an agricultural producing country, so anything that could jeopardise that part of the economy is taken very seriously.


Ian, hopefully you have no screws loose! ThumpUp I don't think it has happened to every BB, but it did to my 37993 (but not 37994), and to others, but maybe not yours.

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Offline Ian555  
#62 Posted : 27 April 2012 11:40:06(UTC)
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Hi David,

Thanks,

I'll take it back out the box and have another good look, maybe I missed it.

Ian.

Offline klarinettmeister  
#63 Posted : 30 April 2012 11:43:29(UTC)
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The problem with the loose screw seems like a bit of a problem.

On the first Big Boy 37990 I found a screw just like many of you have done, loose in the box. When I tried the loco on the tracks it worked fine until it entered a curve (24230). I remember I actually called my dealer about it. Then I studied the parts diagram and found out about the screw.

I´ve been having no problems with 37991 nor 37993. On the 37994 I was a bit violent when I tried to get the loco back on it´s base. That´s when my screw got loose, so the screw wasn´t loose from the beginning. But I suspect that alot of curves could actually make the screw unscrew itself as it´s very loose. I agree with many here that Märklin should change their design as loosing this screw will make the front driving wheels in the loco stop working.
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#64 Posted : 30 April 2012 17:59:26(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post

... Then I studied the parts diagram and found out about the screw.

I


Hi David,

Could you please post a scan of the part diagram and circle where the screw goes? I haven't been able to find the right spot.

Tack på förhand!
Best regards,
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Offline klarinettmeister  
#65 Posted : 01 May 2012 23:19:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Armando Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post

... Then I studied the parts diagram and found out about the screw.

I


Hi David,

Could you please post a scan of the part diagram and circle where the screw goes? I haven't been able to find the right spot.

Tack på förhand!


Hej igen Armando!

I studied the part diagram a little bit more close. The screw is not there!! I´ve put 3 circles around the holes on the chassi, the motor case and the front truck where the screw is supposed to be but I now see that it´s not there on the part diagram! The screw is supposed to be between the 2 #13 screws on the front truck. I´m pretty sure it´s not #34. Maybe Märklin forgot about the mystery screw until it was to late to have in their part diagram?

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Offline Armando  
#66 Posted : 02 May 2012 03:55:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post


Hej igen Armando!

I studied the part diagram a little bit more close. The screw is not there!! I´ve put 3 circles around the holes on the chassi, the motor case and the front truck where the screw is supposed to be but I now see that it´s not there on the part diagram! The screw is supposed to be between the 2 #13 screws on the front truck. I´m pretty sure it´s not #34. Maybe Märklin forgot about the mystery screw until it was to late to have in their part diagram?



Tack David, det var jättesnällt! I was trying to find the place where the screw should go, and couldn't find it. So I was right that Märklin did not do a good job on their part diagram. It is unbelievable that after at least 5 Big Boy models, their quality control hasn't lifted a finger to correct this mistake. I cannot possibly believe that the problem with this mystery screw has not been brought to their attention before! (Well, now it has, because I've written to both Märklin Kundenservice in Germany and to Walther's to notify them of this problem. I'm curious to see what they are going to respond, if they ever do).

BTW, did you take any more closeup pictures of the spot where the screw is supposed to be fixed?
Thank you again, David.
Best regards,
Armando García

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#67 Posted : 07 May 2012 02:03:41(UTC)
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I'm trying to remove the body on my 37994 Big Boy in order to access the spot where the screw is missing. How does one go about removing the bigger plastic cap that hides one of the two screws that hold the body? I've tried lifting it with my fingers to no avail. And I'm hesitant to insert something in between (like a X-acto knife or needle) for fear that I may damage the surface of the body.

How did you all do it?Confused
Best regards,
Armando García

Offline Ian555  
#68 Posted : 07 May 2012 06:43:03(UTC)
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Hi all,

Can you tell if the screw is missing without dismantling the Loco.

Ian.

Offline Bigdaddynz  
#69 Posted : 07 May 2012 07:24:50(UTC)
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Can you tell if the screw is missing without dismantling the Loco.



It should be rattling around inside the box. The other thing to do is try running it. I found my BB kept derailing quite often on my M track layout (usually on curved turnouts), until I put the screw back in. The derailments were caused by the front cardan shaft (#36 in the diagram above) coming out of the front gearbox, which was a direct cause of there being no screw in place. As you have M track Ian, you should know fairly quickly whether you have a problem or not!
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#70 Posted : 07 May 2012 08:02:53(UTC)
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Hi David,

Thanks, to be honest, I've been putting this off, bit disappointed that there could be a possibility that there is a problem, considering what this Loco costs.

Will take it back out the box today and have another closer look.

Thanks again for all the advice given on this "screw".

Well let you know how I get on.

Ian.

Offline Bigdaddynz  
#71 Posted : 07 May 2012 09:26:57(UTC)
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Hopefully, you haven't been 'screwed', Ian!
Offline Ian555  
#72 Posted : 07 May 2012 09:34:45(UTC)
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Hi David,

Smile

Ian.

Offline Ian555  
#73 Posted : 07 May 2012 09:49:28(UTC)
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Hi all,

Right, the BigBoy is out it's box, all unpacked and I've taken him off the wooden base.

No sign of the "screw".

Visually, could I see if there is a problem.

Ian.

Offline Armando  
#74 Posted : 08 May 2012 13:17:35(UTC)
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I'd like to ask this question again, for someone who might care to answer:

I'm trying to remove the body on my 37994 Big Boy in order to access the spot where the screw is missing. How does one go about removing the bigger plastic cap that hides one of the two screws that hold the body? I've tried lifting it with my fingers to no avail. And I'm hesitant to insert something in between (like a X-acto knife or needle) for fear that I may damage the enameled finish of the body.

Thanks in advance!

(BTW: Because I don't like to leave any stone unturned, I sent a note to the Märklin Customer Service including a photo of the screw. I asked them why that screw was found in the box and where it should go, given that the explosion drawing does not show it. So far, no answer Cursing )
Best regards,
Armando García

Offline Deborail  
#75 Posted : 08 May 2012 13:34:04(UTC)
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This is my Big Boy a full blooded DCC loco Trix 22598....Recently repaired...BigGrin
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Offline Ian555  
#76 Posted : 08 May 2012 13:50:55(UTC)
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Hi George,

Doesn't work for me, why not just post a photo. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline Ian555  
#77 Posted : 08 May 2012 13:52:32(UTC)
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Hi Armando,

I'll be interested in the reply also.

Ian.


Offline Ian555  
#78 Posted : 09 May 2012 08:59:42(UTC)
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Hi all,

Couple of photo's of my BigBoy 37994.

Ian.

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Offline Ian555  
#79 Posted : 09 May 2012 09:20:09(UTC)
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Hi all,

BigBoy's 37994 and Insider 37990.

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Offline Armando  
#80 Posted : 09 May 2012 15:58:50(UTC)
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Hi Armando,

I'll be interested in the reply also.

Ian.




I fear that I will have to wait till the cows come back home for that reply Angry
Best regards,
Armando García

Offline Ian555  
#81 Posted : 09 May 2012 16:31:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Ian555 Go to Quoted Post
Hi Armando,

I'll be interested in the reply also.

Ian.




I fear that I will have to wait till the cows come back home for that reply Angry



Hi Armando,

BigBoy....Cow catcher.....LOL

Ian.

Offline Deborail  
#82 Posted : 10 May 2012 07:29:20(UTC)
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Beautiful Ian....I wonder if they are doing a newer trix version too...
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Offline Ian555  
#83 Posted : 10 May 2012 08:16:15(UTC)
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Hi George,

Thanks. ThumpUp

Ian.

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#84 Posted : 10 May 2012 08:20:46(UTC)
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Another couple of photo's.

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#85 Posted : 10 May 2012 08:27:21(UTC)
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Beautiful Ian....I wonder if they are doing a newer trix version too...


Of course they are!


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#86 Posted : 10 May 2012 15:48:23(UTC)
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Hi All,
Got home late from work last night/this morning. Checked my Lokshop A/C and..........a
Very exciting message on DHL tracking about my parcel from Lokshop containing the BB

"Thu, 10.05.12 17:16 h NZ The shipment has left the import parcel center in the destination country " ThumpUp ThumpUp

That means it should be in my PO Box tomorrow. BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin Actually this morning, better get some sleep if I can,...fast Wink Blink Blushing

If so will post pics over the weekend and, just for you Armando, I'll tell you how I open her up. I wouldn't be happy without checking that so & so screw Scared Glare
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Offline GTSE800  
#87 Posted : 10 May 2012 21:48:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Armando Go to Quoted Post
I'm trying to remove the body on my 37994 Big Boy in order to access the spot where the screw is missing. How does one go about removing the bigger plastic cap that hides one of the two screws that hold the body? I've tried lifting it with my fingers to no avail. And I'm hesitant to insert something in between (like a X-acto knife or needle) for fear that I may damage the surface of the body.

How did you all do it?Confused


Hey Armando, I am sure it's the same type cap as the 37990 (Which I have) fingernail should work fine, you should be able to catch the ridge very close to the top of the cap.
I always have a problem with the smaller one. Cursing
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Offline Ian555  
#88 Posted : 11 May 2012 14:16:02(UTC)
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Hi Glen,

Looking forward to the photo's.

Ian.

Offline NZMarklinist  
#89 Posted : 13 May 2012 07:19:19(UTC)
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Hi Ian,

Our local PO Box & parcel office (they closed the Post Office in my suburb last year) is only open till miday weekdays and 6am - 9am Saturdays

Seeing I work afternoons and evenings I slept in too late both days Blushing Crying

I'll be up early enough tomorrow (Monday) and post pics this week. Best thing is HM Customs did'nt grab it. Cool ( sorry Dave Blushing )
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#90 Posted : 13 May 2012 18:10:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GTSE800 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Armando Go to Quoted Post
I'm trying to remove the body on my 37994 Big Boy in order to access the spot where the screw is missing. How does one go about removing the bigger plastic cap that hides one of the two screws that hold the body? I've tried lifting it with my fingers to no avail. And I'm hesitant to insert something in between (like a X-acto knife or needle) for fear that I may damage the surface of the body.

How did you all do it?Confused


Hey Armando, I am sure it's the same type cap as the 37990 (Which I have) fingernail should work fine, you should be able to catch the ridge very close to the top of the cap.
I always have a problem with the smaller one. Cursing


Thanks for the tip! I was finally able to remove the cap, but I had to use an X-acto knife (very carefully), and the cap just popped off easily. My fingernails didn't work! Also, after some struggle, I was able to reinsert the "mysterious" screw back in and fasten it again in place. My initial problem has therefore been resolved.

I will be posting some closeup pictures that I took of the right spot where the screw goes, so that other users may benefit from them, if they should encounter the same problem with their new or old Big Boys.

I was very disappointed that the Marklin Customer Service did not have the grace to answer my question about the screw, and the fact that its location and part number do not appear on the explosion drawing of the loco. I might as well send them an email, including pictures, of the whole operation.

I would also like to extend my warmest thanks to David (Klarinettenmeister) for his helpful advise, and for taking the time to write some emails to me to answer my layman's questions.

Cheers,
Armando
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Offline Ian555  
#91 Posted : 13 May 2012 18:16:51(UTC)
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Hi Armando,

Your photo's will be very helpful...thanks. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline klarinettmeister  
#92 Posted : 14 May 2012 08:34:49(UTC)
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NP, Armando!

I´ve been having alot of concerts lately so I´ve been quite busy, but I tried replying as fast as I could with my phone. BigGrin
Nice to see you solved the problem. It seems like Märklin really should change some technical designs on this model. Why make a model where one screw could screw up this expensive loco? It would have been a lot better if they had a pin up in the loco from the boogie.

What do you think of the new motor?
Offline NZMarklinist  
#93 Posted : 14 May 2012 15:25:28(UTC)
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Hi All,
My one finally arrived today. BigGrin A very big and impressive beast.
Reading the instructions thoroughly is a good idea before handling or attempting to run the Loco Scared Wink but I haven't run mine yet
So as promised here are a few pics Blink They were a bit rushed Blushing
I haven't attempted to remove the plug from the boiler dome, as yet, but a fine, but not necessarily razor sharp, knife would be ideal I think, but pleased to read you solved your problem with it Armando Cool
The small plug, which is in the plastic parts bag, needs to be rocked over in it's seat and flicked out with a small screw driver, from the instructions as I read them. You'd need to be carefull not too loose it Scared

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Glen
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" Every Marklin layout needs a V200, a Railbus and a Banana car", not to mention a few Black and red Steamers, oh and the odd Elok !

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Offline Ian555  
#94 Posted : 14 May 2012 15:33:26(UTC)
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Hi Glen,

They are a very special Loco. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline NZMarklinist  
#95 Posted : 14 May 2012 16:04:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Ian555 Go to Quoted Post
Hi Glen,

They are a very special Loco. ThumpUp

Ian.



Yes indeed Ian, and they need carefull handling Scared Sneaky BigGrin
Glen
Auckland NZ

" Every Marklin layout needs a V200, a Railbus and a Banana car", not to mention a few Black and red Steamers, oh and the odd Elok !

CS1 Reloaded, Touch Cab, C Track Modules, K track layout all under construction. Currently Insider
Offline Armando  
#96 Posted : 14 May 2012 16:06:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post

What do you think of the new motor?


Hi David,

Again big THANK YOU for all your assistance!!! BigGrin

I love the driving features of this new BB. I installed the smoke generators and adjusted the mapping of the F1 output so that the smoke flow would be controlled according to the loco's speed. However, it doesn't seem to work as fine as I expected.

Will post pictures as soon as I can.
Best regards,
Armando García

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Offline GTSE800  
#97 Posted : 14 May 2012 21:35:55(UTC)
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So this loose screw problem the BB's are having, after you tighting it up, does it keep coming loose? or was it that the factory never put it tight enough to begin width?
GTSE800
Offline Armando  
#98 Posted : 15 May 2012 03:20:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GTSE800 Go to Quoted Post
So this loose screw problem the BB's are having, after you tighting it up, does it keep coming loose? or was it that the factory never put it tight enough to begin width?


After fixing the screw back into place, it shouldn't come loose again. A Märklinist friend of mine has a theory in that maybe they need to loosen the screw at the factory in order to install something else on the loco, and then totally forget about tightening it back again. I think it's a very logical explanation to this enduring mystery. However, I will monitor my BB closely to see if the accursed screw comes loose again after some operation.

Best regards,
Armando García

Offline NZMarklinist  
#99 Posted : 15 May 2012 13:52:08(UTC)
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Hi David, All,
I've been thinking about your difficulty in getting the Loco back on its base. I think a piece of extra foam is needed, to put into the large foam from the box lid. It needs to hold the loco up enough to allow easy attachment to the base without forcing anything. Glare
Any owners with experience here like to tell us how they go about getting the loco fastened back on it's base. Blink
I'm sure Ian probably hasn't even thought about putting his away, but you'd be well advised to Ian before the move upstairs to the new Train Room Wink
I had thought about laying it accross my two Noch Foam Lokliege, (servicing trays) Noch p/n 99354, but if say, I take it to a train show to run on our modules, whilst I do often take one, a more self contained solution would be more convenient. I will be looking around for something suitable.
A strip of track underlay might do the job as long as it's clean and not ballasted. eg like the stuff Noch used to make for C Track, now I have a few rolls of that somewhere for my modules hmmm Sneaky The similar Woodlands Scenic product would probably do the job but its slightly wider at the base and a bit denser or stiffer as well, but may need trimming to get it to sit down in the trough of the Big Boy box lid foam.
Before closing the lid of the box for storage, or transportation, I think the extra piece of foam should probably be removed. Unsure
Glen
Auckland NZ

" Every Marklin layout needs a V200, a Railbus and a Banana car", not to mention a few Black and red Steamers, oh and the odd Elok !

CS1 Reloaded, Touch Cab, C Track Modules, K track layout all under construction. Currently Insider
Offline Ian555  
#100 Posted : 15 May 2012 14:13:36(UTC)
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Hi Glen,

The BigBoy is back in it's box and also in the excellent heavy cardbox box that Lokshop sent it in....is this Märklin supplied.

How I refit the BigBoy to it's wooden base......

This will sound a little risky, but actually works very well and is very easy to do, after a couple of times.

I do not turn the BigBoy up side down......

Position the spacers on the base and lift the BigBoy into it's position on the wooden base.

It sits there very well when in it's correct position, so I have the wooden base near to the edge of the table/workbase, slide the base over the edge and insert the first screw and tighten, slide it back onto the table, turn it round and do the same with the rear screw, now the BigBoy is located to the base you can lift it slightly by the base and insert the middle screw.

Then it's time to sit back in it's lovely wooden box.

Ian.

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