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Offline hennabm  
#401 Posted : 20 November 2012 20:31:28(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi all

It's been a while since my last update and work has not stood still. I have found this final module quite easy to do. Is this normal Confused Does practice make things easier......

Anyway I have completed the other raised Altstadt as well as grassed the forest. The flocking is all done and the results are below;
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Tonight I have been out planting the forest. This is except for the back bit where I need to maintain access to add the water for the mill. The tress will then be planted behind the mill.
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I am now in the process of trying different colour combinations to find what I think is right for the water. Then I will add the gel and hopefully we will have water.Wink

The end of the water will be held back with tape/clingfilm until the gel sets.

Oh - and then I have to think about making the connecting bridge between the parts of the town. I think it will be a foot bridge only.

The buildings I need for the Altstadt will be collected this weekend, all being well, during the next BW meet.ThumpUp

More soon.BigGrin

Mike

PS - Glenn - sell the BMW - NEVER.....LOL
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Offline Ian555  
#402 Posted : 20 November 2012 20:42:29(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

Great progress on the layout. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline petestra  
#403 Posted : 20 November 2012 20:50:07(UTC)
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Hey Mike, it looks great and I really like the 4 tracks too. Lots of Märklin action there!
Cheers,PeterThumpUp ThumpUp ThumpUp Smile
Offline steventrain  
#404 Posted : 20 November 2012 21:05:36(UTC)
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Looking good.
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Offline hennabm  
#405 Posted : 20 November 2012 22:38:47(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi Ian

ThanksThumpUp

Mike
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What's digital?
Offline hennabm  
#406 Posted : 20 November 2012 22:40:31(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi Peter

ThanksThumpUp.

We have the 3900, 5200, 5100 and 5120 circles on this module.

Mike
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What's digital?
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Offline hennabm  
#407 Posted : 20 November 2012 22:42:08(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi Stephen

ThanksThumpUp

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Offline hennabm  
#408 Posted : 09 December 2012 16:04:40(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi all

Well, the final module scenery has now been completed today.BigGrin Wink

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The last piece to be done was adding the water at the forest mill. All I had to do was heat the jar up in water until it desolidified and then pour it into the hole I wanted.

As one side was lower than the other then I needed to show a little fall somehow.

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What I used was kitchen cling film under the resin. What do you think of the results?Confused

Another couple of shots of the altstadt;

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Now it's on to the wiring. I have been pricing wiring but it all seemed rather expensive to me for 0.2 cable. As an example it was £2.50 for 10metres.Mad

Anyway after talking about it at my local model shop, he pointed me to a place that sold it for 5p per metreThumpUp Happy days and in all the colours as well..

Must dash - I have 4 modules to wire up Scared Tick tock....

Mike
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Offline aos  
#409 Posted : 09 December 2012 16:19:27(UTC)
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Hi Mike, well done. I think that it really does look superb. This weekend, the boss has kicked me up the rear end about not making progress on my layout. She has even helped me move things along. Alan
Offline hennabm  
#410 Posted : 09 December 2012 16:39:49(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi Alan

ThanksThumpUp

Looking forward to the next progress report from your own.BigGrin

Mike
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Offline utkan  
#411 Posted : 09 December 2012 16:53:10(UTC)
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.....I really looking forward to seeing the whole units put together....Smile
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The world is analog!
Offline TrainIride  
#412 Posted : 09 December 2012 17:41:36(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

You've done some lovely modules !
great work !ThumpUp ThumpUp

Regards
Joël

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Offline Joe Meiring  
#413 Posted : 09 December 2012 17:57:11(UTC)
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Hi Mike - quite superb!!..and I echo Utkan, can't wait to see it all together....so VERY good....
Joe
Offline Ian555  
#414 Posted : 09 December 2012 18:19:55(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

Looks great. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline steventrain  
#415 Posted : 09 December 2012 19:52:28(UTC)
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Great job, Mike.Smile
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Offline hennabm  
#416 Posted : 09 December 2012 22:10:27(UTC)
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Hi utkan

ThanksThumpUp

So am I.BigGrin BigGrin

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Offline hennabm  
#417 Posted : 09 December 2012 22:12:03(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi Joël

Thanks ThumpUp

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What's digital?
Offline hennabm  
#418 Posted : 09 December 2012 22:13:39(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi Joe

ThanksThumpUp

Unfortunately it may be a while before all the modules come together because of the good old UK weather.Angry

Mike
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What's digital?
Offline hennabm  
#419 Posted : 09 December 2012 22:15:36(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi Ian

ThanksThumpUp

tick tock...

Mike
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Offline hennabm  
#420 Posted : 09 December 2012 22:17:15(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi Stephen

Thanks.ThumpUp

Mike
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Offline Eurobahnfan  
#421 Posted : 09 December 2012 22:17:44(UTC)
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Wow... great job Mike! ThumpUp I've been planning an M track layout for quite some time myself. Like you, I'm limited in terms of space, so I'm considering the modular concept as well. Your layout has given me some great ideas -- now to sell them to my wife Wink Luckily, she's been very supportive of my habit over the years and I'm sure she'll want to take part in this latest venture as well.

Steve
Offline PierreGILLARD  
#422 Posted : 09 December 2012 22:46:33(UTC)
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Nice M-Track modules ! ThumpUp

Pierre.
Offline hennabm  
#423 Posted : 10 December 2012 08:21:14(UTC)
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Hi Steve

ThanksThumpUp

Modular form certainly lets you store the layout easier. Mine sits at the back of the garage and will only be erected when the car is out of the garageSmile

My FD is also supportive and has helped building some of the Faller sets BigGrin, amongst other things.

Good luck with your project and I look forward to seeing it develop. Please keep us informed.

Mike

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What's digital?
Offline hennabm  
#424 Posted : 10 December 2012 08:22:56(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi Pierre

Thanks. ThumpUp

M track for everWink

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Offline hennabm  
#425 Posted : 16 December 2012 17:44:03(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi all

after toying with several ideas of how to connect the modules (see my other topic under layout wiring), I decided today to purchase one of those stands with crocodile clips and a large magnifying glassWink

This enabled to to experiment with soldering a D plug. To my surprise it went very wellThumpUp I now have 8 wires soldered through a D plug and all connected up underneath the module. I did make a note of the position and location of the D plug so I can replicate it on the other half RollEyes

The other job today was after buying a roll of flexi armouring, was to cover the wiring.

What do you think folks?

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Offline Nielsenr  
#426 Posted : 16 December 2012 18:20:32(UTC)
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Hey Mike,

Good work!!

It reminids me of the wiring on floor bahn modules ...

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Offline Ian555  
#427 Posted : 16 December 2012 18:36:25(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

Great start to the wiring. ThumpUp

Ian.
Offline TrainIride  
#428 Posted : 16 December 2012 21:35:10(UTC)
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Hi Mike,
Nice work !ThumpUp
Don't forget to draw a schematic of what you've done!
for me, I sometime use it when there is a trouble,
when all these wired are mixed, and there is a broken one.

Best Regards
Joël

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Offline hennabm  
#429 Posted : 17 December 2012 18:25:38(UTC)
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Hi Robert

ThanksThumpUp

yes the wiring does look rather similarWink

Mike
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What's digital?
Offline hennabm  
#430 Posted : 17 December 2012 18:27:15(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi Ian

ThanksThumpUp

Mike
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Offline hennabm  
#431 Posted : 17 December 2012 18:29:24(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi Joël

ThanksThumpUp

Yes , thanks for the tip. I will need to make a schematic drawing of the wiring. I did make one for the D plug.

Did you do it hard copy or use a computer programme?

Mike
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What's digital?
Offline steventrain  
#432 Posted : 17 December 2012 20:26:50(UTC)
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Good work, Mike.Smile
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Offline Nielsenr  
#433 Posted : 18 December 2012 06:12:26(UTC)
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Mike,

For my boards and connectors I did not do a schematic diagram but I did use a spreadsheet for each connector noting what each pin was for. And as a note remember that male and female D connectors are mirror images of each other. And after setting up each connector I used a volt/ohm meter to check for continuity between the connector pins and where they were attached to. In my case, I have 24 modules with either a 9 or 15 pin connector at each end so I wanted to limit my troubleshooting.

Robert
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Offline hennabm  
#434 Posted : 18 December 2012 16:50:14(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi Stephen

ThanksThumpUp

Mike
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Offline hennabm  
#435 Posted : 18 December 2012 16:52:19(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi Robert

Thanks for the idea.ThumpUp

I will make a spreadsheet with every D plug and the wiring connections in them, recorded.

As you can see I have also marked the board at the euroconeections for ease of identification.

Mike
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What's digital?
Offline hennabm  
#436 Posted : 30 December 2012 11:23:00(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi all

Santa did manage to bring me some M* parts, if only more old style plugs for the wiring to continue. biggrin]

After having thought through the answers from my other topic on wiring between modules, I have opted to use the D plug as many suggested. Firstly this meant buying a soldering iron with a fine tip and then, most importantly, a stand with a magnifying glass - to see what I am doingBlushing

Anyway I'm afraid wiring shots are not very sexy but here are some of the progress on one of the main modules.

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As you can see I am naming them all underneath for ease of indentification. The outer track feed is running separate so it can be used for digital if required, as it will be totally isolated.

So far I have 8 controllers - 6 for the main circuits of track and overhead and one 10va for the brewery siding and one 10va for the goods yard. I will have around 6 or 8 7072 boxes and others as well.RollEyes
These are split between two stands - one on each main module.

Sorry about the pictures - they looked better on the cameraBlushing

Have a good new year everyone.ThumpUp ThumpUp

Mike
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What's digital?
Offline Ian555  
#437 Posted : 30 December 2012 11:40:09(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

Thanks for the update. ThumpUp

Happy New Year.

Ian.


....no pressure, but this wiring will be getting inspected during the visit in July 2013....Smile

Tick Tock...
Offline Robert Davies  
#438 Posted : 30 December 2012 14:34:59(UTC)
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Excellent work - I am enjoying watching the progress.

Happy New Year!
Robert

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Offline Danlake  
#439 Posted : 30 December 2012 16:14:08(UTC)
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Very nice work Mike!

Brgds - Lasse
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Offline hennabm  
#440 Posted : 30 December 2012 20:36:51(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi Ian

Happy new yearBigGrin

Tick tock tick tock........LOL

Mike
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What's digital?
Offline hennabm  
#441 Posted : 30 December 2012 20:38:40(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi Robert

ThanksThumpUp

Happy new year and roll on a good 2013 for all things M*.ThumpUp

Mike
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Offline hennabm  
#442 Posted : 30 December 2012 20:50:01(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi Lasse

Thanks BigGrin

Happy new year

Mike
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What's digital?
Offline hennabm  
#443 Posted : 04 February 2013 20:08:35(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi all

It's been a month since the last update but not much to report this time - just more wiring still ongoingRollEyes.
The work has been interrupted by the bathroom refurb. The unfortunate consequences are that the door now needs painting as does the frame. Then it is the turn of the hallway etc etc etc. However the FD does enjoy that sort of workBigGrin LOL

The next interruption will be a new carport on 18th Feb. This will be 10m x 3.5 Love replacing the current 4.3m x 3.5m.
In between the wiring continues. Wink

Further home signals have been introduced as well as further lighting. For this I have used the std M* products - signals are all 7188 with 7187 where I feel they are neededBigGrin and the lighting is made up of 7280, 7046, 7047 and 7048.

I have decided there will be two lighting circuits - one permanent using a 6611 for powering the points and signals. Then there will be a variable lighting circuit controlled by a std 6631 that will be used for the street and building lamps.

Mike
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Offline steventrain  
#444 Posted : 04 February 2013 20:21:24(UTC)
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Very good process, Mike.
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Offline Danlake  
#445 Posted : 04 February 2013 22:46:38(UTC)
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Very good Mike,

Have fun with the wiringBigGrin

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Offline kc6uvm_George  
#446 Posted : 05 February 2013 08:50:11(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

All looks good. Enjoy the wiring. BigGrin
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Offline hennabm  
#447 Posted : 05 February 2013 08:52:36(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi Stephen, Lasse and George

Many thanks for the comments. I'll try and post some pictures later.

Mike

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Offline Ian555  
#448 Posted : 05 February 2013 09:35:41(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

Thanks for the update. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline GlennM  
#449 Posted : 05 February 2013 12:00:38(UTC)
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Mike,

It is all looking rather super ThumpUp ThumpUp I am really looking forward to the M Club road test weekend. Which reminds me have you booked the weather?

Keep up the great work

BR

Glenn
Offline hennabm  
#450 Posted : 05 February 2013 19:51:50(UTC)
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Hi Glenn and all

Yep July will soon be hereScared

Anyway some pictures of the progress..

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A general view of progress under the second large module.

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A close up of the gathering point for the main multiplug and identification of wires.
Because the plan is to occasionally use the outer circuit for digital then all earth and feeds are separate and hence the separate multiplug as well.Wink

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A general shot of the top side with added street lamps. Also in the middle of the picture front is the isolator for the catenary on the inner track. Becasue the track is close to the incline there was insufficient room for a std M* mast. I have therefore had to use a Sommerfeld mast and this meant I couldn't use a normal M* feed mast. Hence the use of the wire feed (7003) to the isolated section.

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My first controller board. To fit the 6611 I will secure that to the underside out of the way.

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Offline Johnvr  
#451 Posted : 07 February 2013 19:38:23(UTC)
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Very interesting, and all seems to be coming together nicely !!
Wiring has always been part of the "learning how things work" Huh

Regards,BigGrin
John
Offline hennabm  
#452 Posted : 07 February 2013 19:59:28(UTC)
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Hi John

ThanksThumpUp

This being the first time I have wired a layout, I am finding it very interesting - and time consuming. More so that the scenery to be honestBlushing

Mike
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What's digital?
Offline Ian555  
#453 Posted : 07 February 2013 20:00:44(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

Thanks for the update photo's. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline TheFatTick  
#454 Posted : 09 February 2013 17:08:01(UTC)
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What a fantastic process!

I've just discovered model trains when I inherited my Dad's Marklin stuff from the 1950's a couple of months ago, and have been poking at various layouts to experiment and learn from. I hope you don't mind flattery in the form of imitation, because I would love to take this basic layout and turn it into a U-shape as a project to use as a learning process. I've learned a lot just from reading about your process.

This has been extraordinarily illuminating. Thanks so much for posting all of your impressive progress and talents!
Offline hennabm  
#455 Posted : 09 February 2013 22:27:08(UTC)
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Hi (TheFatTick)

Thanks for the commentsThumpUp

I hope this has inspired you to take up the saw and screwdriver and start building. As you can see this is my first attempt after having the collection stored for many years. What I do know is I should have started many years soonerRollEyes

All we ask on the forum is that you keep us up to date with progress and give us lots of lovely photos to look at.

I'd be interested just looking at what your dad left you.BigGrin

cheers
Mike

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What's digital?
Offline kimballthurlow  
#456 Posted : 10 February 2013 08:55:31(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

Nice organised wiring, thanks for the pics. I notice you use D computer plugs, 9 ,15 or 21.

I also notice your use of the Marklin connector pieces (the older ones), for which you have allowed ample room for plugging/unplugging.
I made the mistake on my layout of putting the connector strips (newer type) too close together, and as a result, have too little space to use all the connectors available. I am unable to shift them, because of touching fixed current connector pieces between modules (all 8).

regards
Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep III, C Track, digital) - 2 rail (USA and Australia) - 3 rail (English Hornby Dublo) - a few old O gauge.
Offline hennabm  
#457 Posted : 10 February 2013 15:18:48(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi Kimball

ThanksThumpUp

After all the discussion on the plugs to use between modules in another thread of mine, I tried other options but found the D plug to be the best. I have 9 pin for the outer track live and earths; the rest go through a 21 pin D plug.

I have found the 7209 a very useful piece for gathering auxilary live and earths together and linking the circuits.

Mike
1957 - 1985 era
What's digital?
Offline TheFatTick  
#458 Posted : 10 February 2013 19:14:27(UTC)
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Hennabm - I'm really not sure anyone wants to see my project, especially after a few moments of browsing all the magnificent work on this site. As of last November, I knew almost nothing about trains, absolutely nothing about electricity, and less than nothing about landscaping and modeling.

As for my Dad, he left a very simple setup which he bought in Germany in the early 1950's and augmented a bit in the 1970's. I never really saw it set up, except for a very basic circle he would put together on a coffee table at Christmas.

His original locomotive is a DA800 he obtained in 1954. The other locomotive he obtained in the 1970's, and has DB 81 004 as markings.

He had an assortment of rail cars that went with it, including both passenger cars that I think were from the 1950's as well as a mix of industrial cars from both the 1950's and 1970's. I've augmented those with some beer cars off of Ebay, just because.

He didn't have much track. Two turnouts, a crossing, a paved street crossing. Some basic buildings – an old station that's very cool but a bit beat up, a water wheel that doesn't operate. I expect I will replace all of the buildings, unless I can get the water wheel operating again.

He had two Super 280 transformers, one of which tried to cremate me along with my house by basically exploding the first time I plugged it in. I am either going to find someone who can re-wire both of them for me or buy some new ones. Not up for any fire in the train room that isn't a simulation.

When I opened his stuff to simply put up a Christmas loop, I caught a bit of a bug. I went ahead and built an 11x4 table to learn on, which I will rebuild once I am happy with my layout. Your layout was very much the inspiration for it, although I have changed the inner parts a bit. If I get around to learning how to post a picture I might do that once I get along a bit.

It's intimidating to think about how much work is involved, and I don't yet know what all I don't know. Should be a fun process.
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Offline hennabm  
#459 Posted : 10 February 2013 19:33:22(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi The FatTick

I think I knew just about as much as you when I set out just over a year ago to build my layout. It is only with the help of fellow enthusiasts on this forum and those I meet in Marklin Club UK that inspired and assist me with my ambition. Where abouts in the US are you as there are a number of forum members scattered across the country, which you my well be able to meet up with for further inspiration.

My father did exactly the same - started in 1957 with a small oval and reverse loop with some catenary. It wasn't until I started work that I started building my collection and now want to see it on a layoutBigGrin

The two steam engines you have are real classics - the DA800 and the Class 81. Both are worthy of showing.ThumpUp Ian55 has quite a collection of DA800s. Which rail cars do you have?

I too have a couple of the old 280 trafos. Mine are still operational but on the original wiring. For safety I have bought some newer 6631s from ebay.de as I can use 220v. Was your 280 a 110v or 220v version?

Your last sentence sums it up. It's fun and when all the signals and points are finally working and the scenery is looking good, you know the fun can continueThumpUp

Good luck with your journey and keep us all posted on developments.

We're all here to help - Remember there is no such thing as a daft question - believe me I've asked a few alreadyBlushing

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Offline obxbill  
#460 Posted : 10 February 2013 23:23:42(UTC)
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It's all about having fun and as long as you are, then you're doin it right! You don't have to spend a fortune, or be a gifted artist or handyman(but it doesn't hurt. lol) to build an enjoyable layout. Everyone on here will give any help we can with any questions or issues. ThumpUp

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#461 Posted : 11 March 2013 15:25:25(UTC)
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Hi all

no photos this time as there is not much different to see from last time. Except for all the wiring is now complete and all the multi-plugs wired and attached.BigGrin

I have used a spare trafo and attached it to the various circuits on each board and checked voltage. I have also used a continuity meter to check the circuits.
The only problems so far are a few signal bulbs blown.Crying These are now on order and will arrive later this week.Cool

Just the second trafo shelf to build next weekend and then:


The next big thing is to set it up and test the full layout. with all trafos connectedScared

Tick tock........

Mike
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Offline steventrain  
#462 Posted : 11 March 2013 15:39:10(UTC)
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Hi all

The only problems so far are a few signal bulbs blown.Crying These are now on order and will arrive later this week.Cool


Tick tock........

Mike


I have lots of old and new spare parts here.Wink

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Offline Ian555  
#463 Posted : 11 March 2013 16:15:38(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

Very good progress. ThumpUp

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Offline hennabm  
#464 Posted : 12 March 2013 14:28:40(UTC)
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Hi Stephen

Doh - Cursing I've already ordered several sets for my 7188s from ebay.de.

Don't suppose you have some bulbs for the 7187 of both colours????

cheers
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Offline hennabm  
#465 Posted : 12 March 2013 14:30:15(UTC)
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Hi Ian

ThanksThumpUp

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Offline hennabm  
#466 Posted : 16 March 2013 22:52:58(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi all

I've had some luck tonight and sold my 110v trafo to a chap in Essex (via ebay)BigGrin

This brought a smile to my face after spending a frustrating afternoon wondering why a 7188 wouldn't work.

Having read all the instructions I knew of, it told me to earth the grey box if not connected to the track via the base plate. This was done.Smile

However........no matter what I did whether it was change the bulbs or check the connections a 100 times, the mast would not light. Confused
I tried a test lamp on each connection and it worked but I still couldn't get the mast to lightCursing

FINALLY a light went on - in my mind- try earting the mast post. Guess what it workedRollEyes RollEyes

Yet no where does it tell me to earth the mast as well.RollEyes RollEyes

Anyway success and so to bed in time for the first GP this yearThumpUp ThumpUp

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Offline Ian555  
#467 Posted : 17 March 2013 10:41:37(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

Down to earth job.......Smile

Ian.

Offline hennabm  
#468 Posted : 17 March 2013 15:33:49(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi Ian

LOL LOL

It did feel like ground - hog day at times LOL LOL LOL

It is now all finished and waiting for a dry day for the first trial runScared.
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During the trial fit I will also be adding the wiring for the 7072 etc as I'm not sure of the required lengths until the trafo shelves get added to the modules.
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The circuit wires are all there as are the multiplugs etc.

I will also need to drill several more holes to feed the buildings in the Altstadt and several others.

More news when it happensThumpUp

Mike
PS well done to Kimi.ThumpUp

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Offline Johnvr  
#469 Posted : 17 March 2013 17:25:31(UTC)
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Mike,

A tremendous effort !
I have done wiring many times, mostly upside down looking up at the underside of the board.
I see you have notated where the wires go to - well done on this - it will help you if you need to untangle something !

Regards,BigGrin
John
Offline Ian555  
#470 Posted : 17 March 2013 17:57:58(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

Great job, looking forward to hearing all about the trial run(s). ThumpUp

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Offline hennabm  
#471 Posted : 17 March 2013 22:10:06(UTC)
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Hi John

ThanksThumpUp

With so many wires of the same colour in the same area, there was only one way. I used permanant marker as well - just to be sure.

Mike
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Offline hennabm  
#472 Posted : 17 March 2013 22:12:09(UTC)
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Hi Ian

ThanksThumpUp

I'm just hoping that I can get a few dry days before the big day to make sure everything goes smoothly.

Tick tock......

Mike
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Offline hennabm  
#473 Posted : 29 March 2013 05:11:42(UTC)
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Hi all

Well, because of the wonderful "spring" weather we are currently having, I have been unable to get the car out of the garage so I can trial run the layoutCrying

Tick rock.....

Roll on summerLOL

Mike
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Offline Ian555  
#474 Posted : 29 March 2013 05:37:05(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

Hope you're not losing any sleep over it........check the post time.

My excuse is letting the dogs out. Smile

Ian.

Offline hennabm  
#475 Posted : 29 March 2013 08:07:42(UTC)
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Hi Ian

PM sentWink

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Offline danmarklinman  
#476 Posted : 30 March 2013 21:50:10(UTC)
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Hi Ian

PM sentWink

Mike


Hi are you still planning to have a running day! as i have lost your details on my phone!
Offline hennabm  
#477 Posted : 07 April 2013 20:14:59(UTC)
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Hi all

WIth all my chores done yesterday and the promise of a dry cool day today, the 323i was rolled out of the garage and the modules erected for my first full trial run BigGrin

This wasn't without problems, I have to admit. For example wiring a middle track and calling it an inner track feed Blushing . This led to all sorts of problems with dead spots and me exchanging a signal because I thought it was the faultBlushing Blushing

Then I realised I haven't enough make up pieces for the catenary, so the trial was bitty for that. Ebay.de here we come again RollEyes
But the three main circuits and the goods yard and the brewery track all ran fine. BigGrin (In the endWink )

Anyway some photos of the day.

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The other trafo board has yet to be painted Wink

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I now have a snagging list of earthing issues; scenery fixes and lighting wiring to complete before my next trial in a few weeks time.

Tick tock...Scared

Mike
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Offline petestra  
#478 Posted : 07 April 2013 21:03:05(UTC)
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Hi Mike. The layout looks super! Extremely good photos too. I love the last photo especially with its

speeding BR E103. Thanks for sharing your fun! PeterThumpUp ThumpUp ThumpUp Smile
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Offline hennabm  
#479 Posted : 07 April 2013 22:02:12(UTC)
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Hi Peter

ThanksThumpUp

Although the consists were not perhaps the correct ones, it was nice to finally see some trains running the full circuits.

Roll on trial day No 2Wink

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Offline Danlake  
#480 Posted : 08 April 2013 03:48:08(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

A beautiful classic Marklin layout.

Well done!

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Offline Martin T  
#481 Posted : 08 April 2013 06:21:47(UTC)
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Many hours of hard work is starting to pay off!
ThumpUp

It's looking great!!
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Offline Ian555  
#482 Posted : 08 April 2013 08:59:39(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

Great to have some trains running. ThumpUp

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Offline aos  
#483 Posted : 08 April 2013 15:41:13(UTC)
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Hi Mike, everything looks superb! Alan
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Offline hennabm  
#484 Posted : 08 April 2013 16:29:56(UTC)
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Hi Alan, Ian, Martin and Lasse

ThanksThumpUp

The snagging list runs to two pages of notebook. Most of it is touching in the scenery, as can be seen from one or two of the photos. For example where the flock doesn't reach the track fully or where the glue has dried out and the grass mat is lifting on a corner.
Other issues include providing a feed to the other side of a block signal and earthing the masts for the distance signals.

With work and house refurb then I think I will be ready for my next trial in early May.

Mike
PS Alan - how's yours coming along?
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#485 Posted : 09 April 2013 21:13:13(UTC)
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A lot of space for the trains to exercise. I like your "downtown urban area".ThumpUp
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Offline hennabm  
#486 Posted : 10 April 2013 18:47:53(UTC)
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Hi Ak

ThanksThumpUp

The length of the boards in total are 16ft, so taking the two sides and the corners there is about 35-40 ft running on ach circuit. Plenty of room for full powerWink

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Offline hennabm  
#487 Posted : 23 April 2013 19:56:16(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi all

Having taken today and the rest of the week off to allow some alterations to be done to the house I was somewhat irritated yesterday to be told by the contractors that they won't be able to make it until Thursday and then have to come back again to finish the jobCursing Cursing Cursing

However looking on the bright side it mean a free day with nothing planned so I disappeared into the garage for the day to sort my snaggings from the trial run. BigGrin ThumpUp

Besides sorting various wiring issues and resticking some grass mat etc, I added a few road signs as well. Cool

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Following on from a recent thread on the forum I have purchased a track rubber and some of that Track Magic. I went over the worsed bits with the rubber and then ALL the tracks with the Track Magic. Well all I can say it what a load of gunge came off the tracksBlushing Blushing Scared OhMyGod OhMyGod I used soem Johnsons cotton buds as they have strong shafts and pressure can be applied with them onto the rails.

Once I get to have a further trial run I think I may see a difference in how things run. Of course I have yet to do all the loks with the Track Magic as wellWink

Mike

Tick tock.......
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Offline river6109  
#488 Posted : 24 April 2013 07:35:12(UTC)
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Mike,

What I can see, its magic all around

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Offline steventrain  
#489 Posted : 24 April 2013 12:35:16(UTC)
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Looking great, Do you have any video of locos run on layout?
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Offline hennabm  
#490 Posted : 24 April 2013 14:04:11(UTC)
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Hi Stephen

ThanksThumpUp

Unfortunately I do not own a digital video camera or any method of transferring video to the interweb.Blushing

Also, so far, I haven't taken any video of the layout whatsoever - just stills.

Hopefully that will change on the next trial run and will definitely change at the open day.BigGrin

Mike

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Offline Ian555  
#491 Posted : 24 April 2013 14:18:27(UTC)
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Hi Stephen

ThanksThumpUp

Unfortunately I do not own a digital video camera or any method of transferring video to the interweb.Blushing



Hopefully that will change on the next trial run and will definitely change at the open day.BigGrin

Mike




Hi Mike,

Yes it will...Smile

Ian.

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#492 Posted : 24 April 2013 14:38:18(UTC)
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Hi Ian

Oh good.BigGrin Thank you.ThumpUp

I'm looking forward to seeing my handiwork in action rather than just a still shot or two.ThumpUp

Mike

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Offline GlennM  
#493 Posted : 25 April 2013 11:27:37(UTC)
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Mike,

I just wanted to say the layout looks excellent, well done. I am looking forward to having a play ThumpUp ThumpUp

Have you fixed any dates for the meet yet, as I wanted to put them in the diary.

Best Regards

Glenn
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#494 Posted : 28 April 2013 11:06:59(UTC)
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Hi Glenn


ThanksThumpUp

PM sent

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Offline hennabm  
#495 Posted : 30 June 2013 08:09:53(UTC)
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Hi all

As you will see from my other thread on the M club UK thread, the second trial run day has been completed and nearly all snags now sorted.

Although in a running condition, there are still a few areas in need of attention..
First I need some more 7004 to secure the catenary and add the last cross track link.
Another couple of 7006 are also required.

I also found that I neeb another 7072 as I have more wires than socketsBlushing

Ebay.de was my friend again last night and all pparts hould be with me by Thursday/Friday this week. Just in time for the open days.BigGrin

Anyway some more pictures

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A 216 on shunting duty, collecting the goods train for BN

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An 01 D zug leaving BN

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The industrial zone and crane.

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The goods yard with a wagon full of wein for the local kellar

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My goodness is that the time already!

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Offline petestra  
#496 Posted : 30 June 2013 10:11:40(UTC)
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Hi Mike, I love the photos. Well done! PeterThumpUp Smile
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Offline Artologic  
#497 Posted : 30 June 2013 14:05:04(UTC)
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Hey Mike,

I really love looking at the pictures of your layout, very very nice!

Kristof
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#498 Posted : 05 July 2013 20:24:41(UTC)
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Hi all

Today was the last trial and snagging day before the open days starting tomorrow. I can announce we are operational and all tracks are goBigGrin

Some photos of today;

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Hurry the train's approaching....

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Over view of the goods yard

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The railbus returns from Neustadt to link with the D Zug due in 15 minutes

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Looking across to the mouth of the goods yard

So what now for BN?
Well now most is complete it is on to finding suitable transport to take it to shows around the UK. The firsdt one of those is booked for July 2014Scared I can hear that clock ticking again....LOL

Mike
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Offline kweekalot  
#499 Posted : 05 July 2013 20:42:20(UTC)
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Hi Mike,
Fantastic looking pictures !! UserPostedImage
BTW, we have some great mrr events in Holland too, like Eurospoor and Rail. UserPostedImage

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#500 Posted : 06 July 2013 00:09:07(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

The culmination of many hours, so I hope your open day runs well.
The layout looks excellent, as does the little details.

regards
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