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Offline hennabm  
#1 Posted : 12 September 2011 08:02:49(UTC)
hennabm

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Well folks
for many years I have been wanting to get my collection a place to run. I have had carpet bahns as a lad and then for many years the collection has been stored in boxes. Although very nice I don't get the pleasure of watching them run.Crying
Also I am now of an age where I have less time on earth than I have already had. Scared Scared. So time is pressing and I must get moving. Inspired by Ian555 and his superb layout, I have taken the plunge.

So, today I have ordered the wood for the layout and this afternoon will go and collect it from the timber yard. BigGrin BigGrin

It will basically a module system as that is the only way I can store it when not in use. It will be 6' x 4'4" and each module will also have a 2' extension making a running space of 16' x 4' 4". Why this strange width. Well, having acquired some 3900 curves that are 4' diameter a 4' board would leave no room for catenary etc and the track too close to the edge.

My layout idea at the moment will be at least a double loop with a goods yard and at least one bridge just to vary the height and the perspective. This may well change as the boards are finished and the layout planning starts in earnest.

I will add photos as I go, the first will be the delivery of the wood etcThumpUp.

What am I going to call it - well I do like the idea of Neustadt (an der Weinstrasse) because that was the town I first visited as a lad. Also my other passion is BMW, so I think a bit of Bayern would be nice.
So Bayern Neustadt it will be.Smile

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Offline Ian555  
#2 Posted : 12 September 2011 08:12:44(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

Looking forward to Bayern Neustadt on the forum. ThumpUp

Ian.


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Offline hennabm  
#3 Posted : 12 September 2011 08:24:52(UTC)
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Cheers Ian

I will post progress as I go and I'm sure I will be asking many questions to the learned group we have on the forum.BigGrin

Mike
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Offline RayF  
#4 Posted : 12 September 2011 09:59:34(UTC)
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Looking forward to seeing your layout develop, Mike!
Ray

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#5 Posted : 12 September 2011 10:12:26(UTC)
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Good on you Mike, looking forward to seeing your layout. ThumpUp
Offline petestra  
#6 Posted : 12 September 2011 10:23:39(UTC)
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Very exciting, Mike. Nice to see a new project too. Cheers,PeterSmile
Offline steventrain  
#7 Posted : 12 September 2011 13:44:38(UTC)
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Look forward to see your layout.
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Offline hennabm  
#8 Posted : 12 September 2011 15:40:56(UTC)
hennabm

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Stage 1
Acquire a "kit" of baseboards. ThumpUp
Stage 2
Next job assemble baseboards Scared

The kit, as I fetched it today. UserPostedImage

This is now stored at the back of my garage waiting for work to be done. First though, I have to install the insulation board to the gable end in the loftThumbDown
The other gable end was done last year but I never got round to the other as I needed more material and it wasn't worth hiring a van just for that.
So once that is out of the way, work will begin on the baseboards and more updates will follow.
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Offline Oliver SBB-CFF-FFS  
#9 Posted : 12 September 2011 16:24:01(UTC)
Oliver SBB-CFF-FFS

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Good luck with the building Mike. I will follow this thread with interest.
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Offline Chris6382chris  
#10 Posted : 12 September 2011 16:26:23(UTC)
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Good luck, your layout is a blank slate, enjoy this time as you begin.

Chris
Offline Loadmaster  
#11 Posted : 12 September 2011 16:41:06(UTC)
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Good luck Mike,

We are all waiting to see your progress, maybe Ian can assist ?????

Robert
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Offline steventrain  
#12 Posted : 12 September 2011 16:44:58(UTC)
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Good luck to build the layout!
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Offline Ian555  
#13 Posted : 12 September 2011 18:33:32(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

Plenty to talk about on the 1st October then. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline hennabm  
#14 Posted : 12 September 2011 19:11:06(UTC)
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To Oliver, Chris, Robert and Steven.
Thank youThumpUp

Ian - yes there will be plenty to discuss as well as generous note taking and pictures to remind me on how to do things when I get back to mine.Wink

I will keep everyone posted and no doubt be asking lots of technical questions (as well as some dumb ones, no doubt Blushing ) as the real enjoyment of the layout building starts.

Until then it will be plenty of screws and wood glue. The first job will be the main boards of 6 x 4'4". Then will follow the extensions. Finally I will add the legs.
Well, that is the plan at the momentUnsure
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Offline pab  
#15 Posted : 14 September 2011 14:11:53(UTC)
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Lots of succes with your lay-out plans.

Offline ricky  
#16 Posted : 14 September 2011 16:20:47(UTC)
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Congratulations on your new project Mike!!

I see sweat in your next future! Wink But you will be rewarded soon! BigGrin

Cheers,
Ricky Smile
Offline hennabm  
#17 Posted : 15 October 2011 16:28:21(UTC)
hennabm

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Progress - not a lot but some BigGrin

The loft is insulated so leaving me time to get some work done on the boards.

With the main board screwed down I then found the additional piece had been cut too wideCursing
I will now have to wait for a circular saw from a friend before I can continue.Laugh

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One good thing - a present from Germany arrived today - that makes two of these now. So double the drinking efforts will be required in Bayern Neustadt when the train finally arrives.LOL

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Offline Ian555  
#18 Posted : 15 October 2011 17:10:41(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

Great to see you've made a start. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline RayF  
#19 Posted : 15 October 2011 17:35:26(UTC)
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Great work there, Mike!

Can't have too many beer wagons! BigGrin
Ray

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Offline hennabm  
#20 Posted : 15 October 2011 17:46:56(UTC)
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Ian
thanks - can't wait for the news on BWIII LOL

Ray - 4667s are hard to find. I keep asking ebay.de but they only come up occasionally.

Mike
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Offline GlennM  
#21 Posted : 21 November 2011 18:25:18(UTC)
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All the best Mike with the new layout, looking forward to watching your progress on the forum.

Best Regards

Glenn
Offline hennabm  
#22 Posted : 21 November 2011 18:39:00(UTC)
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Glenn

Thanks ThumpUp.

Progress is slow but sure. I'm sure like many others here, the time to go and get something done is very short in family life. There are always other things needing doing, like this weekend helping the MIL put back her house after a complete rewire and then clear the garden plants ready for winter etc etc RollEyes

I have only one main extension piece to build now and then I need legs RollEyes

In the meantime I have downloaded Scarm and Xtrak and playing with those on track plans.
I prefer Scarm as the pieces are all there except the 3900 curve. For that I found a similar radius in C track and then use the converter tracks to join the M and make the join. ThumpUp

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Offline river6109  
#23 Posted : 22 November 2011 00:54:28(UTC)
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Mike,

Just noticed your new layout in "process".

You and Ian should look up you anchestry, there seems to be a similarity in your genes, m-track and German towns or cities.
I've noticed you've mentioned BMW.

Roco bought out a set of 6 BMW cariages as a 3 x 2 limited edition set which I bought but were later stolen.

John
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Offline hennabm  
#24 Posted : 22 November 2011 09:42:05(UTC)
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John

a great looking set - I'll need to search ebay for one for my collection.BigGrin

I'm sorry to hear that yours was stolen. Crying Can I ask how or is it too painful to discuss.

Perhaps Ian and I are long lost family, separated at birth LOL

Mike
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Offline hennabm  
#25 Posted : 24 December 2011 11:18:52(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi all
wishing everyone on the site a very happy Christmas and new year.

I have now completed the basic boards and now move to the process of planning and laying. Ian555 helped greatly last week when at the BW meeting we planned how to join 3900 and 5200 circles.BigGrin

I don't think Santa will bring me anything M but a nice surprise yesterday from Germany; the 15 x 7009 I bought back in October and thought lost turned up again at the seller's address. Apparently the UK post office returned them because I hadn't collected them. For sure I hadn't - as they never notifed me of their (alleged) deliveryCursing Cursing

Anyway - all's well and after Christmas they will be making their way back to me.

Mike

PS the plan is to have Bayern Neustadt operational for 2013 and an open day in summer to mark its arrival.OhMyGod
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Offline aos  
#26 Posted : 24 December 2011 11:56:27(UTC)
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Hi Mike, A very merry Christmas to you and all other members. I checked for you and yes, Wintrack does support the M track (1953-1957) 38xx and 39xx components. So, you can download a demo version and play about with it. Just remember that it does not allow you to save or print. Screen save to Paint will give you a printable copy. Alan
Offline river6109  
#27 Posted : 24 December 2011 13:15:16(UTC)
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Mike.

I more or less left the door unlocked, I thought nobody would steal them because of their uniqueness but I was wrong.

John
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Offline hennabm  
#28 Posted : 24 December 2011 15:11:07(UTC)
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Alan

do you have a link for the free version? Also the 5200 approach ramps Confused

John
aha - I wondered what happened - can't trust anyone these days can you - except fellow M forum membersBigGrin
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Offline aos  
#29 Posted : 24 December 2011 18:51:16(UTC)
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Hi Mike, here is the link: http://www.wintrack.de/usa.html

Scan down the screen until almost at the bottom. Look for the following:

WinTrack V10.0 3D – Demo version

You can download a free DEMO version (you can't save or print with it)

Demo version (7,87 MB)


Click on the link for Demo version (7,87 MB) and follow the instructions.

As discussed at the Scottish Marklin get-together, the 5200 bridge approach parts are 7269 and I have two of them. They are absolutely brand new and never used. I also have the following if you are interested. Again, virtually everything is literally brand new:

14 * 5100 curves,
2 * 5200 curves,
8 * 5205 curves,
4 * 5108 straights,
4 * 5109 straights,
7 * 5210 staights (2 don't have the connector on the bottom)
4 * 5208 straights,
1 * 5112 uncoupler,
3 * 7190 Buffer Stops

I also have 12 Primex 5070 (5100) curves and two Primex 5076 (5106), one of which is a feeder track. These came from a starter set and again, have never been used. They would be suitable for inside concealed areas as they do not have the M track colouring. Make me an offer for any bits that are of interest to you. Smile

Alan
Offline Ian555  
#30 Posted : 24 December 2011 20:15:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: hennabm Go to Quoted Post
John

a great looking set - I'll need to search ebay for one for my collection.BigGrin

I'm sorry to hear that yours was stolen. Crying Can I ask how or is it too painful to discuss.

Perhaps Ian and I are long lost family, separated at birth LOL

Mike



Smile

Ian.

Offline hennabm  
#31 Posted : 29 December 2011 10:25:31(UTC)
hennabm

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A quiet Christmeas here in Bayern Neustadt except for the arrival of the buildersBlink

It's like Auf Widersehen Pet round here with Geordies, Irishmen etc all bringing their skills to the building




of a brewery.LOL
Progress to date;
UserPostedImage

The first brewery wagon is on site but no bier for a day or two yet.Sad When production starts the brewery team have 4 cars to fill each time, so overtime will be required to get the first batch out.Drool

UserPostedImage

Meanwhile the base boards are complete (except for legs) and with the help of Scarm, wintrack free version and Ian555, the planning goes on for the layout.

Mike
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Offline Ian555  
#32 Posted : 29 December 2011 11:09:54(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

If the weather we're having at the moment is going to head in your direction, you'd better get that roof on quick. Smile

Enjoyed our blether this morning. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline hennabm  
#33 Posted : 30 December 2011 13:08:53(UTC)
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Hi all
Ian - the builders missed getting the roof on in time but thankfully the winds missed us. Yes it was good to blether. I'm sure as I progress the blethering will become more technical BigGrin

Today has been nice so progress has been made with the boards. Today I got them all out and lined them up as they will be. What a shock I got on the length of them OhMyGod Each straight will take 20 5106 or equivalent to complete BigGrin
So I already need at least 80 of them. Thank goodness over the years I have been collecting them and currently have around 280.That should see me through the build.LOL
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As you can see the 3900 curves fit nicely on the extensions and the track paths have been drawn onto the wood. This will allow me to start to try my hand at scenery - something I have never done before. I may also take a leaf out of Ian's book and build a couple of diaramas first - just to practice.

UserPostedImage

The length is 16' in total by 4'4. I have drilled them and each can be secured to the other with M10/12 bolts and washers.
All I need to do now is check out Ikea to see which legs will be best. There are some that are 70cm high for around £4 each or adjustable ones of the same make that can be set anywhere between 70cm and just over a meter. But they are £20 each OhMyGod and I will need 8.Scared

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Offline Ian555  
#34 Posted : 30 December 2011 13:27:52(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

What, you reckon we can get more technical Smile .....not sure about that!!!

With regards to "legs", how level is the garage floor?

Maybe one adjustable leg at each corner, to get the layout sitting square, then spacers under the others.

Ian.

Offline hennabm  
#35 Posted : 04 January 2012 16:11:22(UTC)
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Hi Ian

Having looked at the layout Shintaro is constructing I may just go for the standard legs all round.

Planning continued today with the first of the extensions. As the garage was too cold and my wife was at work, then the front room became my planning room Cool

The outer circle is 3900, the middle circle is 5200 and the inner one 5100. There is still a 5120 circle to go that will feed into the brewery (now complete)BigGrin
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I have drawn the outline of the tracks on the board. The middle circle will start to rise from the 5129 straight in the middle of the curve. The gradient will last a further 8' until it can clear a roadway. This will be spanned by the M bridge with approach ramps. The return to earth will mirror the gradient from this side. The gradients will be permanently attached to the board.

In the next photo I am planning a tunnel and hill on the corner nearest to the camera. This may even result in the obligatory tower/chalet perched on the top Blink. This will be detachable for ease of storage of the boards.
UserPostedImage
This will cover the 3900 circle and will have a couple of 5200 bridge approaches on the next circle with M bridge supports.

Mike
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Offline Ian555  
#36 Posted : 04 January 2012 17:33:27(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

Those 3900 curves look wonderful. ThumpUp

I think the boards sit very well in that room, just move the chairs out the way. Wink Smile

Good progress mate.

Ian.

Offline steventrain  
#37 Posted : 04 January 2012 17:44:12(UTC)
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Look very good.ThumpUp
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Offline GlennM  
#38 Posted : 04 January 2012 17:45:16(UTC)
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Mike,

It is really starting to take shape. Keep up the good work, and may I also wish you and the family all the very Best for the NEw Year.

BR

Glenn
Offline hennabm  
#39 Posted : 04 January 2012 17:47:44(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Ian555 Go to Quoted Post
Hi Mike,

Those 3900 curves look wonderful. ThumpUp

I think the boards sit very well in that room, just move the chairs out the way. Wink Smile

Good progress mate.

Ian.



Hi Ian
I don't think the FD would be too pleased if I suggested swapping the chairs to the garage and the boards to the houseLOL

Mike
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Offline hennabm  
#40 Posted : 04 January 2012 17:50:00(UTC)
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Hi Steven and Glenn

Thank you and best wishes for the new year. ThumpUp

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Offline Ian555  
#41 Posted : 04 January 2012 17:50:54(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

Of course you're right.Sad

Will you have a seperate transformer for each circle?

Ian.

Offline mvd71  
#42 Posted : 04 January 2012 19:06:19(UTC)
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Hi Mike,

Nice to see another m track layout in construction, and the use of the 3900 series curves is really good.

Can I suggest that you consider using the marklin sound deadening strips # 7171. There are plenty of these available on ebay.de, and they will reduce the running noise from the trains considerably.

Cheers....

Mike.
Offline Shintaro  
#43 Posted : 04 January 2012 20:55:42(UTC)
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Hi Mike.

I bet your glad the base construction is over and the laying has begun!!
Excellent work on everything so far.
On a side note, I was watching you begin to construct your bases before I had a chance to think of mine.
I should really thank the whole forum for getting me off my ar** and do somethingLaugh.

Cheers.

P.s.
Those Ikea legs for me were $5 each (for reference they are called VIKA Curry)
Offline hennabm  
#44 Posted : 04 January 2012 22:43:49(UTC)
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Hi Ian

Yes I will have a separate controller for each circle.

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Offline hennabm  
#45 Posted : 04 January 2012 22:48:50(UTC)
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Hi Mike

The 3900 curves are really great for the M track and broaden the circles nicely and bring them into line with some of the K and C circles available.

I had thought about the sound deadening rubbers and do have a few lying around. This small stock will be used sparingly around the layout. However where I will be operating this I won't be considering any noise reduction Blink The plan is to use the layout in my garage or at exhibitions.

Thanks for the advice anyway.

Mike
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Offline hennabm  
#46 Posted : 04 January 2012 22:53:29(UTC)
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Hi Shintaro
Yes it is always nice to get the foundations built and the actual laying started. BigGrin

I take heart from your own layout in that you too appear to have limited space and are using a similar construction method.
The shot of your legsBlushing has persuaded me to get the fixed leg rather than the adustable.
For me the legs are about £4 each from Ikea and come in different colours Huh

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Offline Loadmaster  
#47 Posted : 05 January 2012 00:19:15(UTC)
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I have a question for the form here.
I've seen a layout or two on the form that used cork as a base for the tracks or even cover the whole table top.
Has that reduced the train operation noise?
Now the ETE group uses roadbed under the "K" track, but I have been collecting "C" track for home.

Thanks,

Rob
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Offline DV  
#48 Posted : 05 January 2012 02:13:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Loadmaster Go to Quoted Post
I have a question for the form here.
I've seen a layout or two on the form that used cork as a base for the tracks or even cover the whole table top.
Has that reduced the train operation noise?
Now the ETE group uses roadbed under the "K" track, but I have been collecting "C" track for home.

Thanks,

Rob



Rob,

I have found through experience in both M & C that as soon as you screw track down - and the operative words are screw and down, you will have noise. Granted if you put cork down and then screw, the noise is less, but marginally. I think (if my memory serves me) when I had the Märklin foam strips, it basically did the same as the cork (I'm sure BDNZ will correct meBigGrin)

BUT

If you glue the track down, to cork under lay, then it works wonderfully well.

I tried this on a small layout I'm building. One oval I screwed down, the other I didn't. Screwed - noisy, glued - quiet.

We have in Australia a product called Liquid Nails, and that's what I used. You don't have to smear the underside of the track with the glue, just a few dabs here and there, will do the trick.

On the other hand we have some members that use the 'blue' polystyrene boards as a base. Can't do much screwing there (BigGrin) so therefore I'm sure they glue the track down. That also deadens the sound quite well.

That's about itSmile
Dusan V
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Offline mvd71  
#49 Posted : 05 January 2012 07:03:56(UTC)
mvd71


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I always use a soft foam underlay, either the Merkur or some other equivilant and glue the track and road bed. Any time you screw it down it will produce increased levels of noise. The marklin strips I have recommended are screwed into the track, but they are still completely isolated from the track.
Anyway, Mike is obviously aware of them and will do what ever he feels suits his bestCool

Cheers...

Mike.
Offline hennabm  
#50 Posted : 05 January 2012 09:21:07(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi guys

I can understand that when running a layout in the main family building, noise is a big issue. I remember as a lad, even with a carpetbahn and the wooden floor in my bedroom, for those downstairs the running noise was an issue - and that was only two consists running at mostOhMyGod

I do have the M scews and will be scewing the track at key points - th rest will be laid free. I am not keen on gluing as it may prove difficult to then alter the track. Unsure

Mike
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