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Offline Jeremy Palmer  
#51 Posted : 17 April 2011 01:56:24(UTC)
Jeremy Palmer

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Very nice Michael, does it need a homeBigGrin BigGrin .

Jeremy.

ps. The coaches are from Fleischmann and are reportedly very good indeed.jp.
Jeremy.

1). If at first you don't succeed, bungee jumping mightn't be for you.
2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese.
Offline plavnostruev  
#52 Posted : 17 April 2011 02:28:01(UTC)
plavnostruev

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Originally Posted by: Jeremy Palmer Go to Quoted Post
Very nice Michael, does it need a homeBigGrin BigGrin ..


Yes, and if 2 or more marklinistas here on this forum vouch for you, it can be yours BigGrin BigGrin

Quote:

Jeremy.

ps. The coaches are from Fleischmann and are reportedly very good indeed.jp.


Train looks just fantastic, had several of my local marklinistas over for beer, so when door bell rang
and THIS showed up, it made for a very BIG ENTRANCE, everyone is dying of jealosyLove

Michael
Offline SINCrazee  
#53 Posted : 17 April 2011 05:21:38(UTC)
SINCrazee


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Originally Posted by: Webmaster Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: SINCrazee Go to Quoted Post
HAG Thurbo Top Blitz GTW 2/6 is NOW REleased!!!

This looks remarkably Märklin-like in every detail... Has HAG subcontracted Märklin for this one and sell it as a rebranded HAG version?BigGrin


LOL.. Nice catch, Juhan. The seller changed the photo from a powered-rail car to the steam engine set Laugh LOL
Anyway I am kinda lazy to change that photo.. Laugh (So I guess I will leave it there.. The new photo still looks nice)
The new photo:

Edited by moderator 07 October 2011 20:57:05(UTC)  | Reason: WAY TOO LARGE PICTURE! Resized & attached by Webmaster

SINCrazee attached the following image(s):
SRS_Modelling_Nuremburg_2011_006.jpg
C-track carpetbahn, R1 ,R2,R3 with MS2 and a CS2 plus Marklin and HAG trains..
Offline Jeremy Palmer  
#54 Posted : 17 April 2011 16:04:18(UTC)
Jeremy Palmer

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Originally Posted by: plavnostruev Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Jeremy Palmer Go to Quoted Post
Very nice Michael, does it need a homeBigGrin BigGrin ..


Yes, and if 2 or more marklinistas here on this forum vouch for you, it can be yours BigGrin BigGrin

[Michael

Hi Folks - At the risk of being highly embarrassedUnsure Unsure I need two votes please ThumpUp ThumpUp .

Jeremy.
Jeremy.

1). If at first you don't succeed, bungee jumping mightn't be for you.
2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese.
Offline mike c  
#55 Posted : 17 April 2011 16:55:02(UTC)
mike c

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I hereby vouch for Mr. Palmer in this matter. I have had one previous transaction with him and everything went extremely well.

Regards

Mike C
Offline plavnostruev  
#56 Posted : 17 April 2011 21:01:32(UTC)
plavnostruev

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Here is a pic of GTW Thurbo in new design. Run it on my mutli-themed Laugh Marklin layout and it looks and sounds awsomeCool

HAG GTW Thurbo



Michael
Offline David Dewar  
#57 Posted : 17 April 2011 22:45:07(UTC)
David Dewar

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Just a note to say Mr Palmer is is fine guy and totally trustworthy.

dave
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#58 Posted : 17 April 2011 23:22:31(UTC)
Bigdaddynz

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Originally Posted by: David Dewar Go to Quoted Post
Just a note to say Mr Palmer is is fine guy and totally trustworthy.

dave



Are you sure......WinkWinkLaugh
Offline river6109  
#59 Posted : 18 April 2011 02:45:44(UTC)
river6109

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Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square
And I vouch for it too, so Mr Palmer, having 3 votes, you should be able to get a set now with your name inscripted.

When you receive the set (a home needed) you always can send it on to me (a holiday home), so you both can have a rest from it. BigGrin ThumpUp

John
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5 years in Destruction mode
50 years in Repairing mode
Offline Jeremy Palmer  
#60 Posted : 18 April 2011 04:38:30(UTC)
Jeremy Palmer

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Big D - Fair comment a real estate agent (me) vouched for by a banker Confused Confused .

Thank you Mike and John ThumpUp ThumpUp .

Jeremy.
Jeremy.

1). If at first you don't succeed, bungee jumping mightn't be for you.
2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese.
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#61 Posted : 18 April 2011 04:56:10(UTC)
Bigdaddynz

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At least you're not a Used Car or Insurance Salesman!
Offline nevw  
#62 Posted : 18 April 2011 05:08:04(UTC)
nevw

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For a real Estate person he is pretty good. Honest and forthright (I think) !!. we had had many joint dealings.

(the land was above High water mark)
NN


Nev, I hope the 'joints' you refer to aren't the ones you smoke! /BDNZ

Edited by moderator 08 July 2012 03:57:53(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
Offline David Dewar  
#63 Posted : 18 April 2011 12:28:57(UTC)
David Dewar

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Also as a Ridgeback owner Mr Palmer is in the elite class and can be considered undoubted.

dave (Banker ... we rob the poor and feed the rich)
Take care I like Marklin and will defend the worlds greatest model rail manufacturer.
Offline DOYLER  
#64 Posted : 20 April 2011 18:48:11(UTC)
DOYLER


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Originally Posted by: plavnostruev Go to Quoted Post
Would you look at what Swiss Post has just dropped in!

UserPostedImage

HAG S-Bahn Nachtzug Maur

Michael

Hi Mark here
I got that HAG RE450 Set last July from the USA its nice i got the A/C Digital version ref 31-011-31
The one that was rereleased this year is alot more expensive tough and some photos i have seen of the real set has its name and crest on the side of the loco its like a Ferrari prancing horse symboland the HAG model does not have this on it.
Offline Jeremy Palmer  
#65 Posted : 19 May 2011 12:54:21(UTC)
Jeremy Palmer

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Location: St. Michael, Barbados
Hi Chan, friends,

Here courtesy of Stefan and with his kind permission are photos of the HAG 50th Anniversary of the TEE model.

There are two types with different "ends". Symmetrical and assymmetrical. Mine is the symmetrical one, enjoy:


Jeremy Palmer attached the following image(s):
HAG 0th Anniv. TEE.jpg
tee_lok_asymm.jpg
Jeremy.

1). If at first you don't succeed, bungee jumping mightn't be for you.
2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese.
Offline SINCrazee  
#66 Posted : 11 August 2011 17:17:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jeremy Palmer Go to Quoted Post
Hi Chan, friends,

Here courtesy of Stefan and with his kind permission are photos of the HAG 50th Anniversary of the TEE model.

There are two types with different "ends". Symmetrical and assymmetrical. Mine is the symmetrical one, enjoy:




It 's a very nice model Jeremy , I think you are going to be addicted further.Laugh LOL

BTW , I am going to reopen this HAG thread. You can now discuss about HAG stuffs here.. (Including NEWS)..BigGrin

Cheers
Chan
C-track carpetbahn, R1 ,R2,R3 with MS2 and a CS2 plus Marklin and HAG trains..
Offline SINCrazee  
#67 Posted : 06 October 2011 10:47:05(UTC)
SINCrazee


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Autumn new items by HAG..
http://www.hag.ch/index....amp;page=1&Itemid=45
Quite a number of great items including the "LION" compatiable Re420s.. BigGrin Drool
C-track carpetbahn, R1 ,R2,R3 with MS2 and a CS2 plus Marklin and HAG trains..
Offline Hemmerich  
#68 Posted : 06 October 2011 16:10:39(UTC)
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Subscribers of the HAG Newsletter got this and more information already by end of September.

So, if you're interested in getting this stuff directly and earlier you can just sign up for the newsletter via the HAG website. Smile
Offline Jeremy Palmer  
#69 Posted : 06 October 2011 16:19:12(UTC)
Jeremy Palmer

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Ref. newsletter subscription, what does anmelden mean and what does abmelden mean?

Thanks for noting that you can subscribe to a newsletter,

Jeremy.

ps. Just received these.
Jeremy Palmer attached the following image(s):
HAG 16502.jpg
Re 66.jpg
Jeremy.

1). If at first you don't succeed, bungee jumping mightn't be for you.
2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese.
Offline Western Pacific  
#70 Posted : 06 October 2011 18:45:31(UTC)
Western Pacific

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Originally Posted by: Jeremy Palmer Go to Quoted Post
Ref. newsletter subscription, what does anmelden mean and what does abmelden mean?

Thanks for noting that you can subscribe to a newsletter,

Jeremy.

ps. Just received these.


Hi Jeremy,

Nice engines and translations from German:

Anmelden = Register, log on or subscribe

Abmelden = Deregister, log off or unsubscribe

Being from Sweden, neither English nor German is my mother tongue, but I consider myself fluent in both languages.

Per
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Offline SINCrazee  
#71 Posted : 07 October 2011 00:32:58(UTC)
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About Ee922
Somebody actually made this model in O scale!
UserPostedImage
C-track carpetbahn, R1 ,R2,R3 with MS2 and a CS2 plus Marklin and HAG trains..
Offline jcrtrains  
#72 Posted : 07 October 2011 01:39:23(UTC)
jcrtrains

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Jeremy;

Where did you get those? I can't seem to find them.

Thanks
Offline Jeremy Palmer  
#73 Posted : 07 October 2011 03:06:23(UTC)
Jeremy Palmer

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JCR - Sent you a note via forum e-mail but it bounced back. Sorry.

Jeremy.
Jeremy.

1). If at first you don't succeed, bungee jumping mightn't be for you.
2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese.
Offline Jeremy Palmer  
#74 Posted : 04 December 2011 03:42:23(UTC)
Jeremy Palmer

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Here are (wereCrying Crying) the 2 HAG December special Loks. Beauties and because of time
difference I missed outCrying, life goes on.

As always thanks to our friend Stefan for photosBigGrin ThumpUp ThumpUp

Jeremy.
Jeremy Palmer attached the following image(s):
HAG Dec 1.jpg
HAG Dec 2.jpg
Jeremy.

1). If at first you don't succeed, bungee jumping mightn't be for you.
2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese.
Offline nevw  
#75 Posted : 04 December 2011 04:43:16(UTC)
nevw

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Specials for the Christmas Open day Special Sale.

NN
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
Offline Unholz  
#76 Posted : 04 December 2011 07:24:14(UTC)
Unholz

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...and for those who missed the event, here is a picture gallery of the pre-Christmas factory sale:

http://www.hag.ch/index....rkauf-2011&Itemid=50

At least one non-Swiss member of the Marklin users forum can be identified in the photos. BigGrin
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Offline nevw  
#77 Posted : 04 December 2011 10:12:58(UTC)
nevw

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Yeh lives in the SW of France exported from Belgium via California.

Looks good thought and a real nice gent and drives a lovely Citroen C5.

NN
NOt wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now I have a white Pinny which also is hard to see against MY pure white Skin Still have 2 new shiny tin Hips that is badly in Need of Repair matching rusting tin shoulders
and a hose pipe on the aorta
Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory, loafing around
Offline Unholz  
#78 Posted : 04 December 2011 16:26:21(UTC)
Unholz

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Nev, that's him! ThumpUp BigGrin
Offline Unholz  
#79 Posted : 21 December 2011 10:19:26(UTC)
Unholz

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Re 460 with Faiveley pantographs

The Swiss dealer EYRO is offering a special and limited production run of the HAG Re 460 (with names "Aare" and "Wankdorf") with Faiveley pantos (from Swedish manufacturer Barinmodell) instead of the traditional units by Schunk. The prototype locos are increasingly being equipped with the Faiveleys.

More information here ( http://homepage.hispeed.ch/unholz/page2/info.html ) and in the links provided on that page:

The wiper visible in the picture is not the final version, and the coloring of the pantograph might also be subject to change. Furthermore, this will possibly be the first HAG Re 460 with a new white/red LED headlight configuration.

Regards, Stefan
Offline Jeremy Palmer  
#80 Posted : 21 December 2011 11:34:10(UTC)
Jeremy Palmer

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Thanks Stefan,

Two of the most dangerous things to do in Model Railroading...............:

In no particular orderBigGrin BigGrin

1). Visit Stefan's HAG "Info" page and
2). Visit Frits' Cochemer Bahn,

ThumpUp ThumpUp ThumpUp ,

Jeremy.
Jeremy.

1). If at first you don't succeed, bungee jumping mightn't be for you.
2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese.
Offline Guus  
#81 Posted : 21 December 2011 11:37:34(UTC)
Guus

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Posts: 2,616
Hi Stefan,

Thanks for the update. It improves the already nicely detailed HAG Re460, I think.

Do you think the pantograph will be offered as a spare part in the near future?
Kind regards,
Guus
Offline Unholz  
#82 Posted : 21 December 2011 13:14:56(UTC)
Unholz

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Guus, this would probably be a good idea, especially considering the fact that most prototype Re 460's are meanwhile equipped with this type of pantograph. But perhaps there is a big price difference compared with the standard HAG/Sommerfeldt pantograph?

For those who are wondering what the Faiveley pantograph looks like, here is a picture:

http://www.railfaneurope...79/Re460_061-5_Biel1.jpg
Offline jvuye  
#83 Posted : 21 December 2011 15:31:46(UTC)
jvuye

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Hello
Since I have been "spotted" in Mörschwill, I should at least show you the results of the raid.
(I will spare you the details on what it did to my Bank accountScared ...but "that was for Xmas", and since for me Xmas does double duty with "birthday", there was no reason whatsoever not to indulge!BigGrin )
Cheers
jvuye attached the following image(s):
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Offline jvuye  
#84 Posted : 21 December 2011 16:03:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nevw Go to Quoted Post
Yeh lives in the SW of France exported from Belgium via California.

Looks good thought and a real nice gent and drives a lovely Citroen C5.

NN


BigGrin BigGrin RollEyes Wink
Jacques Vuye aka Dr.Eisenbahn
Once a vandal, learned to be better and had great success!
Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#85 Posted : 21 December 2011 18:37:06(UTC)
5HorizonsRR

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Nice! Someday I'll get one of those BLS steurwagens...
SBB Era 2-5
Offline Unholz  
#86 Posted : 30 May 2012 14:35:35(UTC)
Unholz

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Yesterday, HAG dealers in Switzerland were suddenly informed by the manufacturer that they can currently obtain GTW units for prices almost at 50 (!) percent of the previous prices. It is not quite clear whether this is a temporary sale or a permanent markdown.

A few dealers (such as Roger Suter at Meggen) have meanwhile reacted and have lowered the customer prices in their web shops. However, many (most?) other dealers are probably in a state of shock and wondering how to sell the models in their showcases that are now far too expensive.

The move is interesting insofar as many customers simply refused (or were not able) to acquire a HAG GTW for something like 1,300 USD. Thus, competitor Piko met with an open market and was able to score a success.

On the other hand, those customers who pre-ordered and bought a model in the very beginning and hereby supported the manufacturer's business risk must now feel like dunces for having paid the full price.

Offline jvuye  
#87 Posted : 30 May 2012 15:06:04(UTC)
jvuye

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Hi Stefan and all,

Puzzling good news/bad news, like all these situations usually are.

We should welcome the fact we can now seriously consider spending the money on a wonderful model, but without having to accept an overblown price.

On the other hand, I can understand that those who supported HAG's business and "shed the bucks" could be pretty unhappy.

Maybe HAG new management could demonstrate that they care by offering a voucher on future HAG product purchases for those GTW owners, to be redeemed at the dealer that originally sold the GTW.

It would serve the double purpose of thanking the customers for their long term fidelity and at the same time put the HAG dealers back in center stage as many of them really didn't like the turn the HAG retail channel had taken.

Just a suggestion...

(FYI, I was at well-know dealer near Luzern two weeks ago and there was not a single HAG product to be found, as a result of a form of "HAG boycott"...: "Why should we stock their products for the customers to evaluate, when they go to the factory shop to purchase anyway??")

Cheers

Jacques Vuye aka Dr.Eisenbahn
Once a vandal, learned to be better and had great success!
Offline Unholz  
#88 Posted : 30 May 2012 15:36:15(UTC)
Unholz

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Location: Switzerland
Originally Posted by: jvuye Go to Quoted Post

(FYI, I was at well-know dealer near Luzern two weeks ago and there was not a single HAG product to be found, as a result of a form of "HAG boycott"...: "Why should we stock their products for the customers to evaluate, when they go to the factory shop to purchase anyway??")


The GTW price drop could lead to a second form of boycott: Those dealers who are currently sitting on a pile of GTW's with overblown price tags are bound to be saying: "Why should we stock their products when they stab us in the back by suddenly reducing the value of our stocks by 50 percent?".

Yes I agree, it certainly is puzzling, but I am currently hearing quite a number of people saying: "Now at last I can afford one!". So maybe HAG's reasoning will indeed be rewarded - but not by dealers.
Offline SINCrazee  
#89 Posted : 30 May 2012 15:37:25(UTC)
SINCrazee


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Originally Posted by: Unholz Go to Quoted Post
Yesterday, HAG dealers in Switzerland were suddenly informed by the manufacturer that they can currently obtain GTW units for prices almost at 50 (!) percent of the previous prices. It is not quite clear whether this is a temporary sale or a permanent markdown.

A few dealers (such as Roger Suter at Meggen) have meanwhile reacted and have lowered the customer prices in their web shops. However, many (most?) other dealers are probably in a state of shock and wondering how to sell the models in their showcases that are now far too expensive.

The move is interesting insofar as many customers simply refused (or were not able) to acquire a HAG GTW for something like 1,300 USD. Thus, competitor Piko met with an open market and was able to score a success.

On the other hand, those customers who pre-ordered and bought a model in the very beginning and hereby supported the manufacturer's business risk must now feel like dunces for having paid the full price.



What?? Cursing Damn it.. HAG should compensate us now for those who happily ordered it at full price! Plus I already have two of those GTWs already.. Mad
C-track carpetbahn, R1 ,R2,R3 with MS2 and a CS2 plus Marklin and HAG trains..
Offline SINCrazee  
#90 Posted : 30 May 2012 15:55:23(UTC)
SINCrazee


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Originally Posted by: Unholz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: jvuye Go to Quoted Post

(FYI, I was at well-know dealer near Luzern two weeks ago and there was not a single HAG product to be found, as a result of a form of "HAG boycott"...: "Why should we stock their products for the customers to evaluate, when they go to the factory shop to purchase anyway??")


The GTW price drop could lead to a second form of boycott: Those dealers who are currently sitting on a pile of GTW's with overblown price tags are bound to be saying: "Why should we stock their products when they stab us in the back by suddenly reducing the value of our stocks by 50 percent?".

Yes I agree, it certainly is puzzling, but I am currently hearing quite a number of people saying: "Now at last I can afford one!". So maybe HAG's reasoning will indeed be rewarded - but not by dealers.


Hi Stefan ,
would you mind asking HAG on offering some kind of compensation like a locomotive voucher entitling to a free locomotive of our choice or monetary compenstation for each GTW set involved. We are not going to let others have a special treatment of getting them at a much lower price when they are getting the same model that we have received and pre-ordered at full-price.
C-track carpetbahn, R1 ,R2,R3 with MS2 and a CS2 plus Marklin and HAG trains..
Offline Unholz  
#91 Posted : 30 May 2012 16:06:43(UTC)
Unholz

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Originally Posted by: SINCrazee Go to Quoted Post

would you mind asking HAG on offering some kind of compensation like a locomotive voucher entitling to a free locomotive of our choice or monetary compenstation for each GTW set involved. We are not going to let others have a special treatment of getting them at a much lower price when they are getting the same model that we have received and pre-ordered at full-price.


I understand your feelings, but I am sorry to say that my "influence" or even my contacts with the new people in charge at HAG are close to zero.

However, they might listen if they get lots of reactions from all over the world (directly from you, for instance). But I have the feeling that the feedback they get will be extremely widespread because those customers who are now able to buy cheaply will be very happy with HAG ("last come, best served" Huh ).

Offline Jeremy Palmer  
#92 Posted : 30 May 2012 19:08:29(UTC)
Jeremy Palmer

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Hi guys - I cancelled my Theatre St.Gallen, ordered from
Helmuts Hobbies, for the same price I got Woody set 28702
and 2870 with the relevant extension cars.

I will NOT be going behind my loyal dealer's back for any
deals. I have asked Scott to revisit the purchase for me
given this update.

Jeremy.
Jeremy.

1). If at first you don't succeed, bungee jumping mightn't be for you.
2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese.
Offline Loadmaster  
#93 Posted : 30 May 2012 19:32:31(UTC)
Loadmaster

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Posts: 898
Location: So Cal
Jeremy,

I've been a customer of Scott for over 8 years.
I've been trying to support him as the past 12 months have been tough on the hobby business.
Not to put M* down, but I have become a collector of HAG engines, but I don't purchase duplicates of the same engine just because they have modified their paint scheme.
My desire is to have one of each type/module of SBB/BLS engine not color difference.

RobFlapper

Edited by user 31 May 2012 03:49:08(UTC)  | Reason: spelling

HOac and Z scale running SBB/BLS Era IV-V
Offline SINCrazee  
#94 Posted : 31 May 2012 03:30:51(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Unholz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: SINCrazee Go to Quoted Post

would you mind asking HAG on offering some kind of compensation like a locomotive voucher entitling to a free locomotive of our choice or monetary compenstation for each GTW set involved. We are not going to let others have a special treatment of getting them at a much lower price when they are getting the same model that we have received and pre-ordered at full-price.


I understand your feelings, but I am sorry to say that my "influence" or even my contacts with the new people in charge at HAG are close to zero.

However, they might listen if they get lots of reactions from all over the world (directly from you, for instance). But I have the feeling that the feedback they get will be extremely widespread because those customers who are now able to buy cheaply will be very happy with HAG ("last come, best served" Huh ).




So I guess I will cancel my existing orders in order to be best served.. LOL

Btw.. Here 's the new pricing for the GTWs.. Looks like I can get some new ones at a cheaper price..

1) HAG 34 006 SBB GTW 2/6 THURBO alte Schrift
Nr. 34 006-31=> 660CHF (Digital AC w/out sound)
Nr. 34 006-32=->770CHF (With Loksound V4)
Nr. 34 006-20=->630CHF (Analog DC)
Nr. 34 006-21=->660CHF(Digital w/out Sound)
Nr. 34 006-22=->770CHF(with Loksound V4)

2) HAG 34 007 SBB GTW 2/6 THURBO alte neue Schrift
Nr. 34 007-31=> 660CHF (Digital AC w/out sound)
Nr. 34 007-32=->770CHF (With Loksound V4)
Nr. 34 007-20=->630CHF (Analog DC)
Nr. 34 007-21=->660CHF(Digital w/out Sound)
Nr. 34 007-22=->770CHF(with Loksound V4)

3) HAG 34 010 SBB GTW 2/6 Thurbo Theater St. Gallen
Nr. 34 010-31=> 710CHF (Digital AC w/out sound)
Nr. 34 010-32=->790CHF (With Loksound V4)
Nr. 34 010-20=->670CHF (Analog DC)
Nr. 34 010-21=->710CHF(Digital w/out Sound)
Nr. 34 010-22=->790CHF(with Loksound V4)

4) HAG 34 011 SBB GTW 2/6 THURBO Simone Niggli-Luder
Nr. 34 011-31=> 710CHF (Digital AC w/out sound)
Nr. 34 011-32=->790CHF (With Loksound V4)
Nr. 34 011-20=->670CHF (Analog DC)
Nr. 34 011-21=->710CHF(Digital w/out Sound)
Nr. 34 011-22=->790CHF(with Loksound V4)

5) HAG 34 101 SBB GTW 2/8 THURBO 4-teilig
Nr. 34 101-31=> 770CHF (Digital AC w/out sound)
Nr. 34 101-32=->870CHF (With Loksound V4)
Nr. 34 101-20=->740CHF (Analog DC)
Nr. 34 101-21=->770CHF(Digital w/out Sound)
Nr. 34 101-22=->870CHF(with Loksound V4)

6) HAG 34 102 BLS GTW 2/8 Nahverkehrs-Pendelzug 4-teilig
Nr. 34 101-31=> 770CHF (Digital AC w/out sound)
Nr. 34 101-32=->870CHF (With Loksound V4)
Nr. 34 101-20=->740CHF (Analog DC)
Nr. 34 101-21=->770CHF(Digital w/out Sound)
Nr. 34 101-22=->870CHF(with Loksound V4)

As for the Zugkraft Stucki GTW 2/8 special edition , it 's nowhere to be seen as it looks evidently enough that it was sold out before this price revision.
C-track carpetbahn, R1 ,R2,R3 with MS2 and a CS2 plus Marklin and HAG trains..
Offline mike c  
#95 Posted : 31 May 2012 22:04:33(UTC)
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I find myself wondering how many GTW models were found to be still in inventory at the factory when the new owners took over. This seems to be an effort to clear out their inventory of these models. I wonder whether dealers received some kind of credit for sets that they might already have had in stock. Many dealers were already listing much of their Hag products as available from Factory within 7-14 days and not "on hand for delivery".

I opted for the Piko model because the Hag model was way overpriced.

In hindsight, they could have done better with a "New Generation" SBB RBe 4/4-RBe 540 model or BLS Re 4/4 (425). The GTW makes more sense as a plastic model.
Given the choice between a plastic Hag model and the Piko one, many modellers would have still gone for the Hag one.
Same if they had made the Flirt or Domino NPZ (as opposed to Liliput-Bachmann).

Regards

Mike C
Offline jcrtrains  
#96 Posted : 01 June 2012 03:33:58(UTC)
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It is a tricky precedent.

I have ordered the GTW 2/8 Nr. 34 101-20 for 740 from Roundhouse. This is the most significant discount I have seen from them and makes me wonder what other stuff will get blown out.

Keep in mind, there is stock 15 yrs old or higher in the warehouse. Many of the original 460's such as CIBA are available on the HAG site. I suspect there will be more blowouts but I am surprised it is current stuff like this.
Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#97 Posted : 01 June 2012 06:00:30(UTC)
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Hi Stefan ,
would you mind asking HAG on offering some kind of compensation like a locomotive voucher entitling to a free locomotive of our choice or monetary compenstation for each GTW set involved. We are not going to let others have a special treatment of getting them at a much lower price when they are getting the same model that we have received and pre-ordered at full-price.


I believe this is the first time I may have ever started a flame war on a forum, but are you nuts? This is crazy for a number of reasons.

- It will put HAG out of business
- it will steal a potential paid sale from a dealer (meaning of the second locomotive given for free)
- HAG isn't giving ANY customer special treatment here. They are selling them wholesale, to dealers, at a reduced rate. If this were an economy of price fixing, the dealers would be making an extra 500 francs selling it at retail. HAG is selling stock to dealers cheap, not backstabbing loyal customers. The dealers can charge whatever they want.
- Monetary compensation is equally detrimental to a free locomotive
- Then to ask a forum member to make this request for you????

I don't see this as being any different than a car company selling last years model-via dealers- at a factory sponsored low price. Yes it sucks if you paid the prior retail cost, but one cannot predict these sorts of things and such is life. I paid $499 for a Marklin Amtrak passenger car set when they came out (and at the time that was a LOT of money for me) only to have Marklin USA dump them for $100 to dealers a few years later. My retaliation: I bought a second set for $125 at a dealer Cursing
SBB Era 2-5
Offline SINCrazee  
#98 Posted : 01 June 2012 13:50:12(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 5HorizonsRR Go to Quoted Post
Hi Stefan ,
would you mind asking HAG on offering some kind of compensation like a locomotive voucher entitling to a free locomotive of our choice or monetary compenstation for each GTW set involved. We are not going to let others have a special treatment of getting them at a much lower price when they are getting the same model that we have received and pre-ordered at full-price.

I believe this is the first time I may have ever started a flame war on a forum, but are you nuts? This is crazy for a number of reasons.

- It will put HAG out of business
- it will steal a potential paid sale from a dealer (meaning of the second locomotive given for free)
- HAG isn't giving ANY customer special treatment here. They are selling them wholesale, to dealers, at a reduced rate. If this were an economy of price fixing, the dealers would be making an extra 500 francs selling it at retail. HAG is selling stock to dealers cheap, not backstabbing loyal customers. The dealers can charge whatever they want.
- Monetary compensation is equally detrimental to a free locomotive
- Then to ask a forum member to make this request for you????

I don't see this as being any different than a car company selling last years model-via dealers- at a factory sponsored low price. Yes it sucks if you paid the prior retail cost, but one cannot predict these sorts of things and such is life. I paid $499 for a Marklin Amtrak passenger car set when they came out (and at the time that was a LOT of money for me) only to have Marklin USA dump them for $100 to dealers a few years later. My retaliation: I bought a second set for $125 at a dealer Cursing


Yeah.. Now you have to flame DIRECTLY at me?! I was just asking as Stefan USED to have good connections with the old HAG. The new HAG , he stated he HAD NO RELATIONS WITH.. So , I didn't bother him again after hearing that... And yes , I did state I am PLANNING TO buy the reduced price HAG.. SO WHAT 'S IN YOUR MIND OF TRYING TO ATTACK ME...

Edited by moderator 01 June 2012 21:50:49(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

C-track carpetbahn, R1 ,R2,R3 with MS2 and a CS2 plus Marklin and HAG trains..
Offline Loadmaster  
#99 Posted : 01 June 2012 17:40:49(UTC)
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I'll still purchase HAG before Marklin, just less of it.

This helps me keep my inventory of trains in check otherwise, I would need to put an addition onto my house like Ian in Scotland did, LOL....
HOac and Z scale running SBB/BLS Era IV-V
Offline mike c  
#100 Posted : 01 June 2012 17:47:22(UTC)
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If you already bought one of the models at full price, perhaps instead of thinking that you got "ripped off", you may wish to rather purchase another model (maybe a 2/8 instead of a 2/6 or a RM instead of a Thurbo) and think to yourself that you got both models for less than retail price (75% of the catalog price), so in the end, you came out ahead.

It's all in how you look at things.

Regards

Mike C
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