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Offline TrainIride  
#101 Posted : 07 January 2012 15:35:30(UTC)
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Hi Rinus,

great work !! ThumpUp ThumpUp ThumpUp

Regards
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Offline Rinus  
#102 Posted : 07 January 2012 17:05:03(UTC)
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Many thanks my friends!

Hope to do some more tomorrow!

Rinus
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#103 Posted : 07 January 2012 22:01:15(UTC)
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Very ambitious, and excellent work so far...ThumpUp
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Offline Rinus  
#104 Posted : 22 January 2012 19:51:52(UTC)
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Hi all,

Some work has been done on the station area this weekend.

Cork baseplates have veen positioned and fixed, two of the four tracks in the station have been laid down and the two switches near the exit out of the helix have been fastend to the baseplates.

At the end of the day I performed a small test with the V36 (by far the worst driving loco I haveCursing ). It did well.

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Bye,

Rinus
Offline Ian555  
#105 Posted : 23 January 2012 06:29:58(UTC)
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Hi Rinus,

Great looking work. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline Rinus  
#106 Posted : 23 January 2012 06:54:17(UTC)
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Thank you Ian. I realy enjoy this part of the construction!

Rinus
Online steventrain  
#107 Posted : 23 January 2012 07:06:20(UTC)
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Good process, Keep posted.
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Offline Rinus  
#108 Posted : 24 January 2012 09:27:56(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
Good process, Keep posted.


I will Steven!

Next weekend I plan to do the other 2 tracks.

Its really great to work with such large radius curves. I plan K2274 als minimum on the visible parts. It must be superb to see the 1:87 scale coaches go through such a curve.Drool Drool Drool

Rinus
Offline Rinus  
#109 Posted : 24 January 2012 14:08:35(UTC)
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Steinach in Tirol in pictures

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Rinus
Offline Ian555  
#110 Posted : 24 January 2012 15:45:37(UTC)
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Hi Rinus,

Very nice. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline Rinus  
#111 Posted : 24 January 2012 16:54:31(UTC)
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It will be very difficult to immitate the track in concrete shown in the second picture in front of the station building.

Any ideas?

Rinus
Offline Ian555  
#112 Posted : 24 January 2012 17:00:39(UTC)
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Hi Rinus,

Difficult to see in the photo, is it made from large concrete blocks?

Ian.

Offline BrandonVA  
#113 Posted : 24 January 2012 17:16:25(UTC)
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I will probably get in trouble for saying this, but I wonder if an older piece of M track with a solid middle rail would be easier to model around for this purpose? I also saw somewhere someone here "invert" a piece of C track for a road crossing (in response to the Faller car system), whic h would give a solid middle rail to model around. Or you could make a custom 3rd rail on a piece of K track and perhaps model around it? (Link here: http://www.marklinfan.net/car_system.htm)

Marklin just re-introduced the K track crossing (there is a C version of this as well), which has an extension set #7593. I wonder if a couple of these sets could be purchased, then the center rail which already has simulated road could be incorporated here? If done carefully, some sort of plaster or concrete practice such as WS "smooth-it" could be done on either side of the track, and the grey part in the middle of the track piece from the 7593 set(s) could be carfully painted to match if needed.

The rightmost piece of track here:
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***edit to fix image. It seems M* does not allow hotlinking.

Edited by user 25 January 2012 17:56:20(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Offline pab  
#114 Posted : 24 January 2012 20:22:47(UTC)
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Good progress and nice pictures of the real world Rinus.
Offline petestra  
#115 Posted : 24 January 2012 21:38:54(UTC)
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I love the photos, I love Europe. Thanks. PeterWub Smile
Offline river6109  
#116 Posted : 25 January 2012 03:54:07(UTC)
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Rinus,

I have used the 2274 track, although it doesn't form a true circle or half circle I've bend it a bit without noticing it and I used it as an inner circle and this gave me a template to use flexible tracks on the outside.
Just a hint.

your layout looks very promising

John
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Offline AshleyH  
#117 Posted : 25 January 2012 07:54:47(UTC)
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Hi Rinus

Just out of interest, is Steinach in Tirol on the line that runs in the valley between Kitzbuhel and Worgl?

We spend a week most summers in the Austrian Tirol, but I don't recognise the name, but the scenery looks familiar!

Best Regards
Ashley
Offline Rinus  
#118 Posted : 25 January 2012 17:28:56(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
Rinus,

I have used the 2274 track, although it doesn't form a true circle or half circle I've bend it a bit without noticing it and I used it as an inner circle and this gave me a template to use flexible tracks on the outside.
Just a hint.

your layout looks very promising

John


Thank you John!

Trying exactly to do the same with the 2274 and the flexrail. Did you also used an embankment (right expression?) in the curves? I'm thinking of putting an thing wire underneath the outer side of the track.

Rinus
Offline Rinus  
#119 Posted : 25 January 2012 17:31:56(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: AshleyH Go to Quoted Post
Hi Rinus

Just out of interest, is Steinach in Tirol on the line that runs in the valley between Kitzbuhel and Worgl?

We spend a week most summers in the Austrian Tirol, but I don't recognise the name, but the scenery looks familiar!

Best Regards
Ashley


According to google maps its between Innsbruck and the Italian Border. Worgl seems to be east of Innsbruck.

Must have been great out there nonetheless.

Rinus
Offline Rinus  
#120 Posted : 25 January 2012 17:33:48(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Ian555 Go to Quoted Post
Hi Rinus,

Difficult to see in the photo, is it made from large concrete blocks?

Ian.



I'm not sure wheter they are blocks, pavement or asphalt. But i have some pics at home. Let me have a better look.

Rinus
Offline AshleyH  
#121 Posted : 25 January 2012 17:37:08(UTC)
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Thank you Rinus,

We have yet to go West of Innsbruck, maybe this summer as it looks so nice.

I will keep an eye on your layout's great progress.

Best Regards
Ashley

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Offline Rinus  
#122 Posted : 25 January 2012 17:40:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BrandonVA Go to Quoted Post
I will probably get in trouble for saying this, but I wonder if an older piece of M track with a solid middle rail would be easier to model around for this purpose? I also saw somewhere someone here "invert" a piece of C track for a road crossing (in response to the Faller car system), whic h would give a solid middle rail to model around. Or you could make a custom 3rd rail on a piece of K track and perhaps model around it? (Link here: http://www.marklinfan.net/car_system.htm)

Marklin just re-introduced the K track crossing (there is a C version of this as well), which has an extension set #7593. I wonder if a couple of these sets could be purchased, then the center rail which already has simulated road could be incorporated here? If done carefully, some sort of plaster or concrete practice such as WS "smooth-it" could be done on either side of the track, and the grey part in the middle of the track piece from the 7593 set(s) could be carfully painted to match if needed.

The rightmost piece of track here:
UserPostedImage


Solid middle rail? Interesting. I could try to position a tread on the piko's of a2205 flexrail and fill the rest with something.

Thanks for the idea!

Rinus
Offline river6109  
#123 Posted : 26 January 2012 00:41:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Rinus Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
Rinus,

I have used the 2274 track, although it doesn't form a true circle or half circle I've bend it a bit without noticing it and I used it as an inner circle and this gave me a template to use flexible tracks on the outside.
Just a hint.

your layout looks very promising

John


Thank you John!

Trying exactly to do the same with the 2274 and the flexrail. Did you also used an embankment (right expression?) in the curves? I'm thinking of putting an thing wire underneath the outer side of the track.

Rinus


Rinus,

board, cork and a thin cardboard or thick papaer, a wire most probably do the trick as well but how would you fasten the wire to the cork/board/track ?

John
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Offline river6109  
#124 Posted : 26 January 2012 01:30:58(UTC)
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Rinus,

Just out of interest, what is the name of the station ?
something "am Inn", I can't find the station in question, is it an unused station now ?

regards.,

John
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Offline Rinus  
#125 Posted : 26 January 2012 20:15:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
Rinus,

Just out of interest, what is the name of the station ?
something "am Inn", I can't find the station in question, is it an unused station now ?

regards.,

John


Steinach in Tirol! Its between Gries and Matrei. A plan of the station is somewhere in this topic. Otherwise you'll find it on www.sporenplan.nl.

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Now regarding wire I was thinking to do this while ballasting the track. I could also use the 5 mm cork plates I bought on mistake on the outside and use the 4 mm ones on the inside to create the same effect.

Do you think it would work?
Offline BrandonVA  
#126 Posted : 26 January 2012 20:27:48(UTC)
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As long as the shoe can reach the central rail, I don't see why not. Cork would be pretty easy to work with, soft to cut. You could always cover it lightly with some kind of plaster/spackle/whatever to make it have more of a concrete texture.
Offline petestra  
#127 Posted : 26 January 2012 22:00:19(UTC)
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Hi. Very nice photo of the beautiful station building. Thanks. PeterSmile ThumpUp
Offline Rinus  
#128 Posted : 29 January 2012 13:47:56(UTC)
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And of we go out of the station into a large radius curve!

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For the elevation in the curves I used a 4 mm cork bedding on the inside and 5 mm on the outside.

Radius inside is a K2274 and outside with flexrail.

On the picture you see a 1:87 scale ACME coach in the curve. Very smooth Razz.

Rinus
Offline rbw993  
#129 Posted : 29 January 2012 14:03:43(UTC)
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The super elevation looks good Rinus. The saying goes,'Necessity is the mother of invention".

Roger
Online steventrain  
#130 Posted : 29 January 2012 14:35:09(UTC)
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Looking good process.Smile
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Offline intruder  
#131 Posted : 29 January 2012 14:44:00(UTC)
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Rinus wrote:
And of we go out of the station into a large radius curve!
UserPostedImage

Very nice, Rinus.

Do you have some information about the flextrack fixing tool?
I have asked my MMR dealer, but he does not know. I need to buy 4-5 of them.
Best regards Svein, Norway
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#132 Posted : 29 January 2012 16:31:48(UTC)
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Do you have some information about the flextrack fixing tool?
I have asked my MMR dealer, but he does not know. I need to buy 4-5 of them.


Hi
I think this is what you are looking for.
http://www.fohrmann.com/...use-klammern-spur-n.html

I have been a customer of Fohrmann for many years, excellent service, friendly, easy, dependable!
A place every model railroader should take the time to visit in details!
Cheers
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Offline Rinus  
#133 Posted : 29 January 2012 18:59:53(UTC)
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Yup, thats the one. They are called Krause-Klammern. Mine came in a package of 3.

Expensive but, top quality!

Rinus

Edited by user 29 January 2012 19:07:30(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Offline Rinus  
#134 Posted : 29 January 2012 19:01:47(UTC)
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The super elevation looks good Rinus. The saying goes,'Necessity is the mother of invention".

Roger


Hehe well said!

Offline Rinus  
#135 Posted : 29 January 2012 19:07:10(UTC)
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Looking good process.Smile


Thank you Steven!

Next weekend I'll focus on building a 30 cm * 200 cm module needed to bridge the gap between the station and the large helix. After that I'll be able to close the loop and drive my trains all way round!

Rinus
Offline Ian555  
#136 Posted : 30 January 2012 05:58:37(UTC)
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Hi Rinus,

Big radius curves look good. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline Rinus  
#137 Posted : 14 February 2012 11:13:04(UTC)
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Finsihed the last 2 modules this weekend.

Unfortunately I ran out of 2205 flex rail to complete the line! I need 6 more.

Cursing Cursing Cursing Cursing Cursing

Even worse next payment and budget are sceduled over 2 weeks....Sad Sad Sad Sad

Well, I guess I'll concentrate on the wiring, track cleaning etc.. next weeks.

Rinus
Offline Rinus  
#138 Posted : 26 February 2012 18:58:48(UTC)
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Update!

Last two weeks I've been working on the exit of the station and the modules that will represent the St Jodok curve later on. I ran out of flex rail so I still miss a few meters.

This is where the St Jodok curve will be
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Exit of the station of Steinach am Brenner
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Station
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Enjoy!

Rinus
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Offline pyxa69  
#139 Posted : 26 February 2012 19:18:17(UTC)
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WOW looking good BigGrin
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Offline Rinus  
#140 Posted : 26 February 2012 19:42:06(UTC)
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Thank you! Had to tear down some walls to create this room, but it was worth the effort!
Offline pab  
#141 Posted : 26 February 2012 19:48:28(UTC)
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Looking great Rinus.
Offline hennabm  
#142 Posted : 26 February 2012 20:15:19(UTC)
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Hi Rinus

Looking good ThumpUp

I love the 103 TEE picture.Love

Mike
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Online steventrain  
#143 Posted : 26 February 2012 20:38:21(UTC)
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Great process.ThumpUp
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Offline Ian555  
#144 Posted : 26 February 2012 22:32:58(UTC)
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Hi Rinus,

Looking thro' the window, are the tree's in your garden.

Ian.

Offline Loadmaster  
#145 Posted : 27 February 2012 03:10:44(UTC)
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On the picture on post #138, is that a highway bridge or railroad bridge in the background?

Rob
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Offline Rinus  
#146 Posted : 27 February 2012 11:18:41(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: hennabm Go to Quoted Post
Hi Rinus

Looking good ThumpUp

I love the 103 TEE picture.Love

Mike


Me too. To be honnest I was unaware that the BR103 once was on this line.

Rinus
Offline Rinus  
#147 Posted : 27 February 2012 11:20:34(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
Great process.ThumpUp


Thank you Steven!

Rinus
Offline Rinus  
#148 Posted : 27 February 2012 11:23:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Ian555 Go to Quoted Post
Hi Rinus,

Looking thro' the window, are the tree's in your garden.

Ian.



Hi Ian,

Yeah, your right. We live in a forrested area Drool .

With spring entering, nature presents herself at her very best! The sound of all those birds are incredible.

Besides that is saves me a background photo on my layoutLOL .

Rinus

Offline petestra  
#149 Posted : 27 February 2012 11:25:13(UTC)
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Very nice progress, Rinus. I love the photo of the 103 TEE riding through the St Jodok curve. PeterThumpUp Smile
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Offline Rinus  
#150 Posted : 27 February 2012 11:32:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Loadmaster Go to Quoted Post
On the picture on post #138, is that a highway bridge or railroad bridge in the background?

Rob


Hi Rob,

Its a highwaybridge of the famous Brenner autobahn!

Here is a view from the other side.

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Impresive isn't it?

Regards,

Rinus

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