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Offline intruder  
#1 Posted : 10 December 2009 20:38:23(UTC)
intruder

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In many topics there are questions about locomotive age.

I have made a "tendency list", based on my own locomotives.

The locomotive's serial number often starts with a letter, after this list:
No letter = Mechanical Reversing Unit
V = Electronically controlled mechanical reversing unit (Vorshaltelektronik)
E = Electronically controlled mechanical reversing unit or a fully electronic unit
R = 5 star propulsion, Regulated (Fünf-Sterne-Technik)
D = Digital control
H = Digital control, High performance propulsion
M = Delta (Mehrzugbetrieb)
S = C-Sinus-Motor (some C-sinus locomotives are reported to have a H)


The serial number label is black with coloured print. The tendency of my locomotives indicates this "time table":
Print colour Silver, 6 digits = 1981 - 1987
Print colour Silver, 8 digits = 1988 - 1991
Print colour White, 8 digits = 1992 - 1996 (Also my 39221 from 2000)
Print colour Orange, 8 digits = 1996 - 2005
Print colour Green, 8 digits = 2006 - 2009
Print colour Green, 9 digits = 2010 - 201? The two first numbers = year

Added, reminded by H0: the first number in the serial number (after the letter, if any) indicates the final digit in the production year.

Examples:
28536 means a analogue locomotive from 1982.
M9139930 means a DELTA locomotive from 1999.
S6070502 means a C-sinus locomotive from 2006.
H11061196 means a digital high performance propulsion locomotive from 2011.


The locomotives from 1981 and earlier have no serial number.

Edit 07. Sept. 2010: Added green colour and 9 digits for 2010
Edit 16. Aug. 2011: Added more examples

Edited by user 16 August 2011 16:06:16(UTC)  | Reason: Changed topic name

Best regards Svein, Norway
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Offline H0  
#2 Posted : 10 December 2009 20:56:29(UTC)
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You probably know it but you don't mention it:
The first digit of the serial number is the last digit of the production year.

In conjunction with the colour you can tell the year.
Regards
Tom
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Offline intruder  
#3 Posted : 10 December 2009 21:42:32(UTC)
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Correct, Tom. I forgot to mention it. I have added it to my first post.

I also forgot to mention that there are no serial number on locomotives before 1980 (some say 1981).
Best regards Svein, Norway
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Offline Caplin  
#4 Posted : 10 December 2009 22:20:01(UTC)
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Thanks Svein, very useful for people like me mostly buying second hand stuff. Still happy though. [:p]
Regards,
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Offline xxup  
#5 Posted : 10 December 2009 22:26:02(UTC)
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Thanks guys.. This is awesome information.. I do have one loco that does not seem to follow the year number convention.. it is the 39607 as it has a S1 serial number - I guess that it could have been produced late 2001 for the 2002 release... I will double check the serial number on the weekend..
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#6 Posted : 10 December 2009 22:59:58(UTC)
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Thanks Svein, very useful information.
Would it be useful for eBay sellers to quote the serial number?
regards
Kimball
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Offline steventrain  
#7 Posted : 13 December 2009 11:38:15(UTC)
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Thanks for the information, Svein.
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Offline john black  
#8 Posted : 14 December 2009 23:44:00(UTC)
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We had such list a few years back but of course me too [:I] forgot most of the parameters.
Many thanks, Svein (and of course Tom) for the effort & the great service you provide us with SmileSmileSmile

Perhaps Juhan can you make Svein's topic sticky, please.

post scriptum: On a second thought -
since we won't grow younger what can we do to remember biggrin[}:)][xx(] there are sticky topics ...
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Offline steventrain  
#9 Posted : 15 December 2009 18:01:08(UTC)
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I agreed with John.

I will email the webmaster.
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Offline intruder  
#10 Posted : 15 December 2009 23:56:45(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black
... since we won't grow younger ...

Speak for yourself, John Cool

I plan to go back to my childhood when I grow older.
Best regards Svein, Norway
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Offline john black  
#11 Posted : 16 December 2009 21:21:02(UTC)
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Smile[:p]biggrin
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only.
CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ...
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Offline intruder  
#12 Posted : 07 September 2010 22:50:32(UTC)
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Today I added new information for 2010 - locomotives.

I see on my 37320, the SBB Re 10/10, that they have 9 digits, including the initial "H".
Re 6/6: H10220042, Re 4/4II: H10148245.
Probably the first two numbers "10" are for 2010

Does anybody else have the same experience?
Best regards Svein, Norway
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Offline steventrain  
#13 Posted : 08 September 2010 22:28:43(UTC)
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H10088601 under from 30210.
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Offline H0  
#14 Posted : 08 September 2010 23:00:46(UTC)
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intruder wrote:
that they have 9 digits, including the initial "H".[...]Does anybody else have the same experience?

See here:
http://www.marklin-users...&m=244396#post244396

I was irritated because I don't count the initial H as a digit.

Your (old) post said 8 digits - and the new numbers have 8 digits (and a leading letter).
So this seemed to match, it only looked like a 2011 number in 2010.

If your old post was "leading letter plus 7 digits" then I would have shouted: "there are 8 digits now!"

A digit is a digit. That can be 0..1 for binary, 0..9 for decimal, 0..f for hexadecimal, 0..z for whatsthenameofthegame, ...
Regards
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Offline steventrain  
#15 Posted : 19 September 2010 11:19:22(UTC)
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Hi Svein,

39014 - S10080537
36140 - H10075891
36740 - H9017931
37321 - H10221950
37320 - RE4/4 H10047600, RE6/6 H9075343
37915 - H10022247
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Offline Guus  
#16 Posted : 19 September 2010 11:59:32(UTC)
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intruder wrote:
Today I added new information for 2010 - locomotives.

I see on my 37320, the SBB Re 10/10, that they have 9 digits, including the initial "H".
Re 6/6: H10220042, Re 4/4II: H10148245.
Probably the first two numbers "10" are for 2010

Does anybody else have the same experience?


Hi Svein,

Yes I have the same experience. The serial number put on my locos purchased in 2010 also reflect this change.
It could suggest indeed, that the extra digit is needed to indicate that the locomotive is produced in 2010.
An older locomotive of mine from 2001 has serial number:H1091823 while my Re 620 has serial number H10141948.

Maybe nice to know that Koll's catalogue has some information about Märklins serial numbering system in their introduction.

And also there's some information to be found on the web at: http://www.erichs-modellbahn.de/. ( from the start site go to Märklin HO and then Nummernschema).

Edited by user 19 September 2010 12:36:38(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Kind regards,
Guus
Offline intruder  
#17 Posted : 06 October 2010 18:41:24(UTC)
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Thanks for the additional inormation, friends.
Best regards Svein, Norway
grumpy old sod
Offline intruder  
#18 Posted : 16 August 2011 16:07:51(UTC)
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I have added more examples to the initial post.
Best regards Svein, Norway
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Offline Renato  
#19 Posted : 16 August 2011 16:32:08(UTC)
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Well done, Svein.

Cheers

Renato
Offline steventrain  
#20 Posted : 06 November 2011 09:04:17(UTC)
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2011 new items.

37061 - H11197530 CE
37925 - H11237076 CE
30050 - H11049452 CE

CE - See here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CE_mark
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Offline Extermy  
#21 Posted : 30 December 2011 08:53:18(UTC)
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Hi Guys
I am new to this forum and the information provided is awesome.ThumpUp I am busy collecting older locomotives and have noticed that some of them originates from 1956 to current. Instead of issuing another post and update the original post by Intruder, I wold like to know in which years the motor configurations changed, thus as per quoted lines below, to insert the year of introduction next to it.
"No letter = Mechanical Reversing Unit"
"V = Electronically controlled mechanical reversing unit (Vorshaltelektronik)"
"E = Electronically controlled mechanical reversing unit or a fully electronic unit"
"R = 5 star propulsion, Regulated (Fünf-Sterne-Technik)"
"D = Digital control"
"H = Digital control, High performance propulsion"
"M = Delta (Mehrzugbetrieb)"
"S = C-Sinus-Motor (some C-sinus locomotives are reported to have a H)"

There is a lot of learning out of the information provided
Extermy BigGrin
Offline nevw  
#22 Posted : 30 December 2011 10:28:05(UTC)
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Extermy,
A visit to this site will answer most of your questions:


http://www.hfkern.gmxhome.de/

Nev
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Offline steventrain  
#23 Posted : 09 January 2012 15:22:13(UTC)
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Hi Extermy,

Welcome to the forum.
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Offline intruder  
#24 Posted : 20 February 2012 17:47:35(UTC)
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Extermy wrote:
Hi Guys
... I wold like to know in which years the motor configurations changed ...
Extermy BigGrin

Welcome to the forum.

A simple question with a very complicated answer, Extermy.
I will try to list the production years, but no warranty.
There are big overlaps.
The data is based on Märklin Archiv ver. 4.80

"No letter = Mechanical Reversing Unit"
Basically all 800-series locos (1937-1957)
Basically all 3000-series locomotives, (1957-?)

"V = Electronically controlled mechanical reversing unit (Vorshaltelektronik)"
"E = Electronically controlled mechanical reversing unit or a fully electronic unit"
Almost all 3300-series locomotives (1985-1999)
Some 3400-series locomotives (1993 only?)

"R = 5 star propulsion, Regulated (Fünf-Sterne-Technik)"
3500-series locomotives (1987-1995)

"D = Digital control"
3600-series locomotives (1985-1996)
36000-series locomotives (1996- )
Some 3700-series locomotives (1985-1989)
The newer 30000-series locomotives.

"H = Digital control, High performance propulsion"
Amost all 3700-series locomotives (1991-1999)
All 37000-series locomotives (1996- )

"M = Delta (Mehrzugbetrieb)"
Most 33000-series locomotives (1996- )
Most 3400-series locomotives (1992-2001)
All 34000-series locomotives (1992- )
The later years the Delta decoder has been replaced by a digital decoder.

"S = C-Sinus-Motor (some C-sinus locomotives are reported to have a H)"
39000-series locomotives (2000- )

Best regards Svein, Norway
grumpy old sod
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Offline H0  
#25 Posted : 20 February 2012 18:10:43(UTC)
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Hi, Svein!
Interesting compilation.
Originally Posted by: intruder Go to Quoted Post
"H = Digital control, High performance propulsion" [...]
All 37000-series locomotives (1996- )

"S = C-Sinus-Motor (some C-sinus locomotives are reported to have a H)"
39000-series locomotives (2000- )

As of 2012 the 39xxx locos probably will have an H as they come without C Sine.
OTOH some 37xxx came with compact C Sine or SDS.
Regards
Tom
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Offline intruder  
#26 Posted : 26 February 2012 00:54:03(UTC)
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Thanks, Tom.

I'm looking forward for reports about 2012-produced locomotives.
I hope that they don't make it to complicated for us.
Best regards Svein, Norway
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Offline steventrain  
#27 Posted : 09 June 2012 12:02:56(UTC)
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37154 - H12202609 CE
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Offline steventrain  
#28 Posted : 14 July 2012 13:38:40(UTC)
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37810 BR50 - H12130703
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Offline NZMarklinist  
#29 Posted : 18 July 2012 03:02:44(UTC)
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My three Klass 64's

They are all MFX SDS and the Labels are black with green print

39640 - S8049152ce - Product programme - 2008 - 2010 DB ERA III

39642 - S9105793ce - Product programme - 2009/10 MHI DRG ERA II

39646 - S10050411ce - Product programme - 2010/11 DB ERA III No sounds

The 39640 which I bought a few weeks ago on ebay from AC Euro Trains in California has "Made in Hungary" on the box Huh
The other two were bought in Germany as new items

Edited by user 17 January 2013 01:32:33(UTC)  | Reason: re labels

Glen
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Offline steventrain  
#30 Posted : 16 October 2012 17:17:56(UTC)
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2012 locos.

37160 - H12032563
37815 - H12034298
37051 - H12331408
37922 - H12170485
39016 - H12276253

I will get number from 37811 and 39017 soon.
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#31 Posted : 31 October 2012 11:04:53(UTC)
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30080 - H12292838
37813 - H12018241
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#32 Posted : 04 November 2012 19:15:45(UTC)
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37811 - H12194118
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Offline TrainIride  
#33 Posted : 04 November 2012 21:17:32(UTC)
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Hi Svein,

Thank you for this topic.
I think all of this knowledge must be placed in a special part of the website,
to be quickly found.

By the way, I don't know if it's interesting or not, my latest new Märklin Loco:
36742 - 130TB 717 produced 2009 - hobby model - with a basic digital decoder - but with speed slope working in analog !
printed in green: M9042325

Best regards
Joël
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Offline James Sehl  
#34 Posted : 20 November 2012 20:28:33(UTC)
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BigGrin Hello Fellow Marklin Enthusiastes!

I have been collecting Marklin HO since 1973, and, by accident, found this forum today! (November 20th, 2012). I am very happy to have found it. Tulsa, Oklahoma, seems like a Marklin HO desert to me, so I am happy to have found this. Well the first thing I want to do is check my locos for serial numbers, etc.

I wish all of you the Best!!!

Jim Sehl
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#35 Posted : 20 November 2012 20:36:39(UTC)
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Hi Jim

Welcome to the forum ThumpUp

Are you digital or analog or bothBigGrin

Mike
1957 - 1985 era
What's digital?
Offline James Sehl  
#36 Posted : 20 November 2012 20:54:25(UTC)
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I was deeply into Marklin HO up to about 10 years ago, then I slowed down on things. While I have a few digital items, I have not made the plunge into digital. This forum may be the impetus to get me going on it. I'm at work now, so I don't have the model numbers, but I have a Marklin GG1 and a New York Central diesel, both fullly digital. I've had them for two years now, and never put them on the tracks. So you see where I am on things.

Thank you for asking.

Jim Sehl
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#37 Posted : 20 November 2012 21:03:46(UTC)
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Hi Jim,

Welcome to the forum.
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Offline NZMarklinist  
#38 Posted : 11 January 2013 02:32:34(UTC)
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Some of my 2012 New Items as I have them to hand for New items thread

Green print on Black label still !

37098 Double Pack BR85
85.001 H12103181ce
85.002 H12367276ce

37938 Borsig P10 1 of 5 of Borsig series
H12367276ce


39322 E194 German Croc
S403171ce orange on black label

Edited by user 16 January 2013 23:50:36(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Glen
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Offline steventrain  
#39 Posted : 28 January 2013 11:02:58(UTC)
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37770 - H4289693
39579 - S3062851
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Offline 5HorizonsRR  
#40 Posted : 06 March 2013 21:10:41(UTC)
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Hey everyone,

Have any of you taken delivery of the new Crocs yet? I'm seriously tempted to buy a set, but I wanted to hear some positive reviews before spending such a large sum of money.

Thanks in advance!
FS + SBB Era 2-5 and Vintage Marklin
Offline mbarreto  
#41 Posted : 06 March 2013 23:35:32(UTC)
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Hi,

Well, I have the set although I will not do a review. Anyway these crocs move very smooth and I
consider them great models. They have good interior details. I also like the sound.
The green colour seems almost unnoticeable more blueish, but only with some types of light it can be slightly noticed. I prefer this green than the green of previous crocs.
There is realism with some non-synchronism between the 2 sets of wheels.
I like a lot the new led white lights (they almost seem halogen lights BigGrin - kidding, but I really like them a lot).
The wheels also have great look, and the rods give the model a super look when in motion. When stoped I prefer look at the rods of the CE6/8III. In motion is the opposite.

The green model doesn't represent the typical Ep. III croc, but the fact is that there was at least one like this (see MM 1/2013). The difference is in the handrails arrangement and a welded side door. I expect the typical green model to be produced soon...

One thing that could be a bit better is the window cleaner which could be coloured. Also, in the brown croc, the moveable parts (half bridges?) in the extremes could have a thicknes closer to scale (but this way they are more robust).

We may think in more realism, like opening of the motors doors (if I can them this way), but I think that is good more for display locos and not for running (layout) locos. Also I think it is better suited for bigger scales (0, 1, etc).

It is a real M model, very robust, great look, great running characteristics and with lots of accurate details. It also has its value.

I am very happy with the set. I think it is a must have, but doesn't need to be the 37565 set... maybe just one of them , the 37566, 37567, or the ones to come. Almost sure I will have other crocs of this mould.

Regards,
Miguel






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Offline MikeR  
#42 Posted : 07 March 2013 11:57:09(UTC)
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Thanks Miguel

I enjoyed your comments BigGrin BigGrin ThumpUp ThumpUp

Mike
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Offline mike c  
#43 Posted : 08 March 2013 19:59:46(UTC)
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So far, they have released the new twin set, a black (Messe) model and announced the Austrian private model. I am interested in this lok, but I would like to have it in one of the later versions, either regular service with one door shut and the steps removed, or as a shunting version with one pantograph and the modified ends. Roco has already released both variants as models.

Regards

Mike C
Offline intruder  
#44 Posted : 03 June 2013 19:50:34(UTC)
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Two new locomotives today, manufactured in 2013:

SBB CE 6/8ii 14272: H13385067
SBB Ce 6/8ii 14268: H13389553
Best regards Svein, Norway
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Offline steventrain  
#45 Posted : 26 June 2013 17:34:20(UTC)
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37567 - H13281735 CE
37577 - H13312933 CE
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Offline Neah  
#46 Posted : 10 October 2013 16:55:07(UTC)
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Hi,

Sorry for the dumb question, but where are the loco serial numbers usually located? Inside or outside? I checked one of my locos and couldn't find it.

Thanks,
Neah
Offline steventrain  
#47 Posted : 10 October 2013 17:55:46(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Neah Go to Quoted Post
Hi,

Sorry for the dumb question, but where are the loco serial numbers usually located? Inside or outside? I checked one of my locos and couldn't find it.

Thanks,
Neah


Have a look at sticker with number on Underside of the loco chassic or bogie.

Edited by user 10 October 2013 18:04:08(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Offline BrandonVA  
#48 Posted : 10 October 2013 18:14:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Neah Go to Quoted Post
Hi,

Sorry for the dumb question, but where are the loco serial numbers usually located? Inside or outside? I checked one of my locos and couldn't find it.

Thanks,
Neah


Neah,

Steve is right. Sometimes you have to move a bogie to one side to see it. Note that locos made before about 1981 will not have the SN sticker.

-Brandon
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Offline cookee_nz  
#49 Posted : 10 October 2013 18:19:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Neah Go to Quoted Post
Hi,

Sorry for the dumb question, but where are the loco serial numbers usually located? Inside or outside? I checked one of my locos and couldn't find it.

Thanks,
Neah


Have a look at sticker with number on Underside of the loco chassic or bogie.


Here's an example of the Serial number on a 3674 (corrected number) Class 216 Diesel Loco, Number D9125938, the "D9" first two characters indicating this one is Digital and was produced in 1989

Often the label will be found on the motor, but also can be on the chassis body but you should not normally have to take anything apart to see it.

Keep in mind that Marklin only started issuing serial numbers around the early 1980's so if your Loco's have no serial number label, either they are pre-1981, or the label has been removed.

If you provide some specifics about your loco('s), ie the Marklin item number, what model it is of, colour and the road number we should be able to narrow it down.

Hope this helps

Steve

Edited by user 11 October 2013 04:38:06(UTC)  | Reason: Corrected item number from 3075 to 3674

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Offline BrandonVA  
#50 Posted : 10 October 2013 18:32:45(UTC)
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Steve,

Thanks for the illustration.

Is it 3074 or 3374? I thought 3075 was red livery?

-Brandon
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