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Offline H0  
#51 Posted : 10 October 2013 18:43:23(UTC)
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With a "D9" serial number I would expect a 36xx ref. number. Maybe 3674.
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Offline cookee_nz  
#52 Posted : 11 October 2013 04:34:39(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
With a "D9" serial number I would expect a 36xx ref. number. Maybe 3674.


Yep, absolutely right, I was just testing y'all to see who was paying attention!! LOL LOL LOL

OK, now the truth, Blushing actually I was being lazy

I always refer to it as a 3075 even though correctly it is a 3674, from my 2610 K-track Digital Start Set. I do have a 3075 also, in red, analogue, but my 3674 regularly gets a clothing change when I put the yellow/green transparent body on, which then changes it again to a 3774, even though it does not have the 37xx chip or motor.

Edited by user 11 October 2013 09:43:20(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Offline Neah  
#53 Posted : 11 October 2013 08:45:07(UTC)
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Thank you all for the great answers. The reason I was asking is because I'm looking at a loco on eBay and the seller does not know the model # or where to find the serial.

Maybe one of you can tell us more about what we're looking at here.
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#54 Posted : 11 October 2013 09:41:07(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Neah Go to Quoted Post
Maybe one of you can tell us more about what we're looking at here.
Märklin 3034, made 1976-1980, no serial number. If there was a serial number, it would be under the powered truck and visible on the third picture.
See also:
http://www.hfkern.de/Maerklin/Dt_Loks_E141.html

Serial number tells production year, but is normally not helpful when you're looking for the ref. number of a loco.
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Offline cookee_nz  
#55 Posted : 11 October 2013 09:54:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Neah Go to Quoted Post
Thank you all for the great answers. The reason I was asking is because I'm looking at a loco on eBay and the seller does not know the model # or where to find the serial.

Maybe one of you can tell us more about what we're looking at here.


Adding to what Tom has provided, one of the simple things that you can do, and is often overlooked is to simply google the road number - in this case with the zoom-in tool it reads "141-015-8".

Generally (but not absolutely) when Marklin change the design of a model, perhaps new tooling or some other improvement, they also change the road number which pleases detail modelers no-end as they like having unique numbers on their layout just as in real life.

In your search you can choose web information, or images to get comparisons.

The road number is also helpful is you are referring to Koll's as this is often how they will break down variants of the same model. In this instance, if it was prior to 1976 it would be road number 141-005-9 which according to Koll's was produced 1969-1975.

The same applies to Coaches as well to help identify an unknown item, but you'll often need a good magnifying glass to read those.
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Offline intruder  
#56 Posted : 23 October 2013 21:11:41(UTC)
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The trsnsparent [b]r 218 was a digital demonstation model for the Märklin dealer's very first digital demo layout in 1985.

It came with it's fellow transparent demonstrators 3772 br 212 and 3757 br 103.
In spite of the 37 series number, they all came with the old traditional 3* motor and a prototype c80 decoder.

Ihave the 3772 (actually two of them) and the 3774, but I still miss the 3757

Unfortunately their transparent bodies often turn yellow over time, if exposed to light.
My 3774 is quite good, as one of the 3772s.


Märklin 3774
Serial no. D59379

They can be seen here:Bo'Bo'_Diesel

Edited by user 23 October 2013 21:22:34(UTC)  | Reason: finger trouble

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Offline cookee_nz  
#57 Posted : 24 October 2013 06:07:09(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: intruder Go to Quoted Post
The trsnsparent [b]r 218 was a digital demonstation model for the Märklin dealer's very first digital demo layout in 1985.

It came with it's fellow transparent demonstrators 3772 br 212 and 3757 br 103.
In spite of the 37 series number, they all came with the old traditional 3* motor and a prototype c80 decoder.

Ihave the 3772 (actually two of them) and the 3774, but I still miss the 3757

Unfortunately their transparent bodies often turn yellow over time, if exposed to light.
My 3774 is quite good, as one of the 3772s.

They can be seen here:Bo'Bo'_Diesel


I also have the 212 in clear plastic with no tinge to it however my 216 has not turned yellow with age/light, it was actually produced in that colour, very rare and hard to find.

I love it and would be happy to add one or two others to the range. !! Drool Drool

Cheers

Steve
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Offline intruder  
#58 Posted : 24 October 2013 14:17:54(UTC)
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cookee_nz wrote:

I also have the 212 in clear plastic with no tinge to it however my 216 has not turned yellow with age/light, it was actually produced in that colour, very rare and hard to find.

I love it and would be happy to add one or two others to the range. !! Drool Drool

Cheers

Steve

Interesting, I did not know. Thank you.

Every day we learn something new in this fantastic forum!

Best regards Svein, Norway
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Offline cookee_nz  
#59 Posted : 25 October 2013 04:25:25(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: intruder Go to Quoted Post
cookee_nz wrote:

I also have the 212 in clear plastic with no tinge to it however my 216 has not turned yellow with age/light, it was actually produced in that colour, very rare and hard to find.

I love it and would be happy to add one or two others to the range. !! Drool Drool

Cheers

Steve

Interesting, I did not know. Thank you.

Every day we learn something new in this fantastic forum!



They are the same coloured plastic as used on the special ICE Trains on the cover of the 87/88 catalogue.

There was a thread about this some months ago but I can't find it right now so here's the four different 216 bodies (courtesy of Tom Catherall who owns them and supplied the photo)
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