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Offline klarinettmeister  
#1 Posted : 06 December 2009 15:25:38(UTC)
klarinettmeister

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My very small layout without any scenery with my 15 year old christmas tree which is attacked by an Alien. My MFX Mikado pulls the new 45649 consist. (All my 3 Big Boys are waiting in their respective boxes).

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Offline ulf999  
#2 Posted : 06 December 2009 15:48:41(UTC)
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ah, x-mas joy Smile
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Offline obxbill  
#3 Posted : 06 December 2009 16:39:46(UTC)
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looks like the space marines are on the way to save the tree! biggrin Maybe those APC's could help too. Thanks for sharing your holiday spirit with us. Smile


Bill
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Offline steventrain  
#4 Posted : 06 December 2009 17:39:11(UTC)
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Very good, Thanks for sharing the picture.
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Offline PierreGILLARD  
#5 Posted : 06 December 2009 19:23:59(UTC)
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Interesting mix of models !

Thanks for sharing.

Pierre.
Offline klarinettmeister  
#6 Posted : 06 December 2009 19:57:14(UTC)
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Thanks!

Here´s a comparison. Old vs new.

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Offline Webmaster  
#7 Posted : 06 December 2009 20:12:05(UTC)
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Interesting, I have the "original" one... I thought the editions were the same - obviously they are not...
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Offline klarinettmeister  
#8 Posted : 29 January 2010 20:43:20(UTC)
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Yesterday I was in Malmö and visited a shop that I´ve just been to one time before. I saw these and just had to have them! They only had these left from the Faller military series. I was finished with the shed and the barracks at 4 AM this morning. It took 3 hours to build them both. I have just painted figures, so if you have recommendations how to paint these buildings, you´re welcome.
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144034-barracks
144036-shed for tanks
144060-Wire barriers

This morning I ordered these buildings:
Faller 144042-Headquarters
Walthers 933-2911 Clayton County Lumber

Today I got these in my mail, bought from Ulf (Thanks Ulf!):
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Märklin 45680
Märklin 45801
Offline steventrain  
#9 Posted : 29 January 2010 23:19:25(UTC)
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Very nice wagons set.
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Offline klarinettmeister  
#10 Posted : 30 January 2010 17:19:14(UTC)
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steventrain wrote:
Very nice wagons set.


Thanks! They are very nice. Now I want 45800 too...

Today I finished with a new project. Lighting. I´ve learnt my lesson today. Never buy electronics 10 minutes before closing time and read everything on the package!

I began with my Faller 144042 military shed.

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Then I used these things for my prject:
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And the result was this:
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The wooden stick is not glued so it´s easy to remove. But I think I did it so well I don´t wanna do it again...
I saw the blue light when I tested it and decided to go on with the project. As you see I placed my APC in it from the movie Aliens. Maybe it will work on the layout.

Now I will add some lighting to my Walthers Amtrak station. This time I will choose the correct bag (I´ve bought 3 bags of Ultrawhite and 2 with Ultrablue with 5 LEDs in each).
Offline obxbill  
#11 Posted : 30 January 2010 17:59:39(UTC)
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I think the blue works with the sci-fi apc! Gives it an "area 51" effect. I would leave it that way. BigGrin

Bill
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Offline klarinettmeister  
#12 Posted : 01 February 2010 20:41:07(UTC)
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Thanks Bill!

It looks kinda cool. Today I was at Eurohobby in Helsingborg and bought some new things I couldn´t resist. Although I don´t have any space on my current layout I´ll build them.

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Faller:
110113 Station Bonn
4041 Soldiers quarters
144023 Fence

Auhagen:
99051 small house

Preiser:
14401 24 passengers for the station
16881 Soldiers DR (1939-45)for the barracks and soldier´s quarter.

As I´ve said in another thread I´ll support Faller and Märklin this year. Last year I spent alot of money on clothes and Playstation 3-games, but not this year. BigGrin
Offline klarinettmeister  
#13 Posted : 06 April 2010 02:53:44(UTC)
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Now I have a new plan!

Comments? Suggestions?

I´m not totally pleased with it but it´s the best solution I´ve found. I don´t think I can use either of the complete ICE 3-, CZ-, F7 Amtrak-trains. The longest track by the station is one track short (I think). I could propably change the turnouts for curved turnots on the left side also.
Also there´s not much space to store the trains. I want to avoid using a third level but right now it seems to be the only way. In that case I could insert a turnout on the left which goes up to the third level and round on the other side with alot of tracks with end bumpers. As you can see the lower part of the plan is the lower level and the upper is the upper level. The track that connects the lower tracks is good for turning around trains.
I´m thinking of removing the upper sidetrack. I need space for the Bonn station from Faller.

There isn´t a single 24130 curve, but I´ve used 2 of 24115 though.

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EDIT: The table can only be 3200*1400 mm. The width of the room is ca. 3240mm. I can have up to 1800 mm. in length but I need at least 400 mm. to reach my bookcase and also be able to push the table and work on the rear of the layout. I'm thinking of doing it on 2 tables (2000*1400 + 1200*1400) in case if I move to another place.

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Offline steventrain  
#14 Posted : 06 April 2010 08:53:15(UTC)
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Trackplan look very good, Any goods yard, engine shed?
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Offline klarinettmeister  
#15 Posted : 06 April 2010 10:13:32(UTC)
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steventrain wrote:
Trackplan look very good, Any goods yard, engine shed?


Thanks Steven!

None at all Huh but I'll plan for one. Now that you mention it I got another idea. If I change the 3-way turnout 24630 for a 24612 I can remove the 5th track. =not so much Spaghetti. Then I insert a curved turnout 24672 somewhere before the 3-way turnout (lower part after the crossing perhaps). That track will be on a grade and lead to storage tracks on third level which will be called the goods yard. The trains need to have a locomotive in front, preventing from rolling.
I could also plan for a 7294. In that case somewhere in left part of the layout. Just need to figure out a good way to connect it. And they are expensive... Crying And a few 24624 are also very expensive...

I do have 4 pairs of 24711 and 24712 which I can use. I bought them a few years ago when I was planning a big goods yard measuring 3 meters.

The plan is made with with a combination of the layouts in Märklin Magazin 3/2008 and 4/2009.
/David
Online DamonKelly  
#16 Posted : 06 April 2010 13:09:49(UTC)
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klarinettmeister wrote:
Now I have a new plan!

Comments? Suggestions?


Nice track plan, David -- full two track running in not a lot of space, and should be good for variety.

One question, though:
How does a train travelling clockwise on the outer track (at the left hand side of the first diagram) get to the other track? Am I missing something?
In the second diagram, if you move the RH turnonut in the middle to the other track, and replace it with a double-slip turnout, you can achieve this.

klarinettmeister wrote:
There isn´t a single 24130 curve, but I´ve used 2 of 24115 though.


Just a note -- the curved turnouts 24671/2 are in fact R1, which is a pity, since they can save so much space...
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Cheers,
Damon
Offline RayF  
#17 Posted : 06 April 2010 13:39:13(UTC)
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Hi David, I like how you have managed to fit in quite a large station in a smallish space. I am a fan of double track running, and this plan allows four reasonably long trains to cross at the station, with a fifth in the bay siding if you leave it in. The bit at the front with the level crossing for watching trains go by is also very attractive, though I would flatten out the reverse curves slightly to avoid too much of a "snaking" effect.

I'm not sure what changes I could suggest, but I think it's a pity that all that track on the lower level is a bit wasted. It does nothing more than bring the trains back to the top, with the chance of a direction reversal, but only in one direction. I would perhaps try to rearrange the tracks to give me a couple of storage loops, at the expense of the reversing track.

As to Steven's point, I would put in at least a couple of goods sidings or a loco maintenance area. The top left corner seems a good candidate for a couple of short sidings, and you could fit in a goods or loco facility inside the "loop" on the left. I suppose it depends on how crowded it will make the layout look.

Your idea of a third level could work, but beware of making the whole thing look like a hamster cage!
Ray

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Offline klarinettmeister  
#18 Posted : 06 April 2010 18:26:30(UTC)
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Thanks Damon and Ray!

It is always good to have second opinins. When I look at it now I see your correct. It´s a real waste of track on the lower level. I just wanted to avoid having turnouts on the lower level, but it´s better having them there than using a third level.

Damon, the suggestion about replacing the 24612 turnout was good. The reason I had it like this is because I wanted to save my double-slip turnout for something else...

I don´t count the curved turnouts as "real" 24130, but of course they are R1. It´s a pity Märklin has limited tracks to work with...

Ray, I think the sneaking effect is cool. But when I think about it... how will the ICE 3 like it? It´s derailing on R2 in full speed as a 3-part train, but it´s propably better balanced as a complete 8-part train. I should test this somehow...

I didn´t recieve my 2 ordered Bluray boxes of Band of Brothers, nor Lord of the Rings today either, so tonight I can work on planning the layout with next version of it.
Offline klarinettmeister  
#19 Posted : 21 April 2010 10:05:10(UTC)
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This is the newest plan. I have some more space and haven´t fitted the 74920 crossing yet. And I´ll propably need some shunting yard somewhere. What do you think?

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Offline RayF  
#20 Posted : 21 April 2010 10:39:19(UTC)
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That's quite a drastic change in plan, David!

I like the number of storage tracks on your lower level, but I'm not sure how you plan to get the trains in and out. There is no obvious way down without reversing. I'm also a bit worried about the complicated pointwork at the entrance to the storage yard. I fear for derailments when pushing long trains into the sidings. Maybe you should consider a redesign so that trains are pulled into the yard from both directions, even if this means that some of the sidings will be shorter. You would need another track down to your lower level.
Ray

Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
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Offline dntower85  
#21 Posted : 21 April 2010 18:19:14(UTC)
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I really like the upper level but I agree with Ray. On the lower level if you could connect the upper sideing with the lower one you could create a reversing loop. Try making a turn on the right end and instead of entering the yard from the left you might try entering from the right.
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Offline ulf999  
#22 Posted : 21 April 2010 22:01:12(UTC)
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nice pics + layout. I hope the cars have found a new great home Wink
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Offline klarinettmeister  
#23 Posted : 21 April 2010 23:09:42(UTC)
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Thanks Ray and Darrin! You´re absolutely correct. I was just thinking of having as many trains as possible. But right now I have to see what I can use instead. Rest of it has to stay in their boxes waiting for the future. I have an idea how to change the sidings in the lower level.

Thanks Ulf! The cars are waiting on my dining table for a decent railway to roll on. They are waiting to be pulled by my one of my Mikados and one of my Big Boys. They are in perfect condition. Were they brand new or have you had them rolling?

/David
Offline ulf999  
#24 Posted : 22 April 2010 21:10:09(UTC)
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klarinettmeister wrote:

...
Thanks Ulf! The cars are waiting on my dining table for a decent railway to roll on. They are waiting to be pulled by my one of my Mikados and one of my Big Boys. They are in perfect condition. Were they brand new or have you had them rolling?

/David

They had been out rolling, but I was very careful with them (and my other cars as well Smile )
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Offline klarinettmeister  
#25 Posted : 11 August 2010 14:58:12(UTC)
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Hi again!

This is my latest. It´s possible to have 2 full length trains and 2 shorter trains at the station at the same time. The sidetracks can hold 5 trains. The size of the layout can not be changed. The wall is to the right. To the left is my bed and the table must be cut following the curve as on the 1st picture to get access. The plan is to make 2 tables (1800*2=3600 mm length).

I´m not pleased with it, so suggestions would be appreciated.
Cons:
Long trains (ICE 3, CZ, Amtrak)
Bonn station will fit

Bads.
No level-crossing (74920, 74930)
No use of any my 9 slim turnouts (24711,24712)
Limited number of trains at the same time. (Only 9 trains out of my 20 trains ranging from 100-230 cm can be on the track at the same time).
Only one level, boring?

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Offline klarinettmeister  
#26 Posted : 16 August 2010 01:36:45(UTC)
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Work has begun!

I cut off the corner and I couldn´t resist building. Here are pictures.

First of all. The new real Beta-version. I think I´ll remove the double crossing in the lower level. I now have space for the crossing which you can see on the 3rd picture.

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The corner has been cut. It´s not perfect but I can´t reach my sand papers yet!

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And here is the result as of tonight:

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Tomorrow I´ll start planning the tables and will connect the turnout lantern and also install the 3-way switch. For this part I only miss 5 tracks. 2*24224, 24997, 24215 and 24294. I do not own any signals yet but I´ve prepared for them (installed wires) and also the red insulators. I don´t think I´ll control them with S88 as they are expensive and I don´t own any, so momentary contact is enough.
When I´m finished tomorrow with the cables I´ll put it aside at the wall while doing the tables as I said. I´m going to buy wheels for the tables. I´m aiming for a height of at least 1000 mm. for the table legs + the height of the wheels.

/David
Offline ac jacko  
#27 Posted : 16 August 2010 11:47:31(UTC)
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Good start david, keep it going sir ThumpUp
Offline klarinettmeister  
#28 Posted : 16 August 2010 22:17:37(UTC)
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Today I´ve been doing all the wiring for this part of the layout. All the motors in the turnouts are opened and short curcuited for more reliable use. Everything is connected but the wires for the signal.

And I´ve done everything I planned for yesterday and Ivé bought 8 wheels and I´ve begun construction on the frame.

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/David
Offline Webmaster  
#29 Posted : 16 August 2010 22:22:17(UTC)
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The metal GG1 looks great!

Why can't I kick my own butt and get going?
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Offline Ian555  
#30 Posted : 17 August 2010 16:08:41(UTC)
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Hi David,

You are making a great start to your layout. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline steventrain  
#31 Posted : 17 August 2010 17:29:35(UTC)
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Excellent process, Keep posted.Smile
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Offline klarinettmeister  
#32 Posted : 17 August 2010 23:32:34(UTC)
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Thanks Steven, Ian and Juahn for your inputs. BigGrin

Today I didn´t have that much time as I was going by real trains for half the day. I picked up something my collection has been missing since my childhood, the swedish wooden train 2870! I also bought the extra car which apparently was available as a spare so it had an own box.

As you can see on the pictures I still can´t reach the box where I store my sandpapers... Well, well. There are people who miss water and food and I miss sandpapers... I´ve gotta be happy with what I have.

Here are todays results:

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This part of the table is almost complete... or at least prepared for the turnouts which I can´t afford for a while... I´ve predrilled 4 holes and cut out for each of the 5 turnouts and also made some holes for the support for the upper level which is waiting in the background supported by some of my clarinets. The rounded part is aligned more correctly now.

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My new 2870+the extra car and also my old 3170 which is digitalized with 6080 by myself.

Tomorrow there propably won´t be any time to do very much as I´ve got to spend some time with a cute french man and show him my city. Cool
Offline Ian555  
#33 Posted : 17 August 2010 23:40:02(UTC)
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Hi David,

That is a great looking Loco, well done on your purchase. ThumpUp

Ian.
Offline klarinettmeister  
#34 Posted : 18 August 2010 00:15:10(UTC)
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Ian555 wrote:
Hi David,

That is a great looking Loco, well done on your purchase. ThumpUp

Ian.


Thanks Ian!

I have a question. As I´ve planned I´m gona use my Bonn station on the next frame. But where can I put my Amtrak station? Will it look strange putting it on the frame I´ve built now? Maybe some history. The Amtrak station was there when the town (Springfield) was built and then they built the Bonn station and kept the old one? Hmmm...
I have been having thoughts of having american buildings on this rounded table and german buildings on the bigger table... Hmmm.
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#35 Posted : 18 August 2010 00:17:06(UTC)
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Cool

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Why can't I kick my own butt and get going?

I can help you; I'm a very good butt-kicker BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin

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#36 Posted : 25 August 2010 23:36:48(UTC)
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The last few days have been slow. I´ve been having much else to do like looking for work and I´ve got some concerts that I need to practice for.
Here´s the latest update. I´ve also changed my plan which is much better (not in a picture). I need to move some rails on the 2nd level to fit the new plan. Tomorrow I´ll merge the 2 levels and I´ve planned to buy more wood on friday. Then there´s the concert on sunday and also the changing of the guards next week that I need to attend. I need to learn 11 pieces of music by heart till then.

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#37 Posted : 26 August 2010 07:17:22(UTC)
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Hi David,

Thanks for your description of work in progress. It is quite fascinating.

It recently took me 6 months of work to complete my layout, and while I took photos at every stage, I found it too much effot to post them here and describe it. So good on you for going to the trouble here.

On another note, (excuse the pun) I am not particularly fond of musical and such, but yesterday I was taken to see the stage show Mamma Mia, and I surprised myself by being very impressed by the sheer exuberance and clever production.

regards
Kimball
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Offline klarinettmeister  
#38 Posted : 26 August 2010 17:02:33(UTC)
klarinettmeister

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kimballthurlow wrote:
Hi David,

Thanks for your description of work in progress. It is quite fascinating.

It recently took me 6 months of work to complete my layout, and while I took photos at every stage, I found it too much effot to post them here and describe it. So good on you for going to the trouble here.

On another note, (excuse the pun) I am not particularly fond of musical and such, but yesterday I was taken to see the stage show Mamma Mia, and I surprised myself by being very impressed by the sheer exuberance and clever production.

regards
Kimball


Thanks Kimball. I´ll try to keep this up as a log for the project I´m using the most time and money for.

I haven´t seen Mamma Mia, but everyone says it´s good, so'll give it a chance. I´m not that fond of musicals either. Hehe. I mostly like classical music.

Some update. I´m finished with the 1st table. Tomorrow I´ll buy more wood for the 2 frames and the other table.

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Some turnout motors that have been fixed for better reliability.

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This is the last time when your able to see the bottom floor. Time for assembly which wasn´t as easy as I suspected because of the cables.

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The 2 floors are merged! In the background the 8 wheels are lying and are prepared for the tables! I´ve also moved some of the tracks in the correct position (the 4 end tracks) to fit the new improved plan.

/David
Offline klarinettmeister  
#39 Posted : 28 August 2010 00:53:56(UTC)
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Well, today I´ve been really busy and this is the result. I had to change the wheel arrangement because of the weight. Now the wheels are screwed to the legs so now I can´t adjust the height of the legs...

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The space under the layout isn´t enough... Crying
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Offline Maxi  
#40 Posted : 28 August 2010 01:13:06(UTC)
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Now I don't feel so bad when I try to find room for one more box in my train room Smile
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#41 Posted : 28 August 2010 01:55:08(UTC)
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Nice work, David. Keep posting the progress! Yes, how can any show be bad with Abba's music in it?
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#42 Posted : 28 August 2010 14:03:06(UTC)
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David nice progress. Can you describe a little more what you did with the turnout motors?


Regards,


Thomas





klarinettmeister wrote:


All the motors in the turnouts are opened and short curcuited for more reliable use.

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Some turnout motors that have been fixed for better reliability.


/David






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#43 Posted : 29 August 2010 18:23:54(UTC)
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GSRR wrote:



David nice progress. Can you describe a little more what you did with the turnout motors?


Regards,


Thomas





klarinettmeister wrote:


All the motors in the turnouts are opened and short curcuited for more reliable use.


Some turnout motors that have been fixed for better reliability.


/David








Hi Thomas and everyone else! Thanks for your support!

It arrives from ideas on this forum. I remember reading about the problems with the micro-switches not working properly. Half of mine malfunction. The solution was to solder a cable between the legs on the microswitches. I did another solution. I took a lot of soldering material and and used it between all the legs with the soldering pen. The problem was that it got a little to hot which made the microswitches loose.

It´s important though to not use the switches to often and when activated use as little time as possible, otherwise they will burn out.

Petestra, it depends on the performers too. Hehe.

Matthew, maybe there´s some space for new boxes under your bed. Cool
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#44 Posted : 29 August 2010 18:36:16(UTC)
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David,

any chance you can post a closeup picture of the work you did with the turnout?




Thomas


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#45 Posted : 29 August 2010 21:06:38(UTC)
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#46 Posted : 10 September 2010 13:33:41(UTC)
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Hi all!

Sorry for not updating my thread but nothing´s been built. Why? I was busy last week with the changing of the guards at Stockholm and alot of other concerts. I´ve also noted the tolerances are not good. I´m going to disassamble the tables and the layout and and redo the tablework completely. That´s what I´m gonna do today and tomorrow.

I´ve also redone my plans. Why? The old plan would cost me 600 Euros and the newer one will cost me 100 Euros. That´s very important for me as I don´t have much money and I´d rather spend it on my train collection. The decision will leave me to only have 8 trains running as to 17 trains. The new plan have these cons and pros.

Pros:
+ Cheaper (I´ll save 500 Euros on tracks)
+ Construction made much easier with only one level
+ The big pieces of plywood can be screwed directly to the frame; much sturdier and more precis
+ I´ve added a track for future expansion (can be used as a storage track)
+ A special track for the Goliath is added
+ Much easier to disconnect the tables with one level

Cons:
- Less trains on the track for smooth running(8-10 trains as opposed to 17)
- Only one level could make it boring but parts of the city could be on 2nd level

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New plan. Suggestions?

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Here´s a pic for you Thomas. I´ve circled the 6 soldering points. It´s VERY important not to use the switches to much and lower the duration time on the CS to 250 ms because the switches won´t turn off automatically anymore and can be destroyed really easy. Be careful when soldering because the microswitches can move during the soldering.

/David

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#47 Posted : 10 September 2010 20:46:56(UTC)
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klarinettmeister wrote:


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Here´s a pic for you Thomas. I´ve circled the 6 soldering points. It´s VERY important not to use the switches to much and lower the duration time on the CS to 250 ms because the switches won´t turn off automatically anymore and can be destroyed really easy. Be careful when soldering because the microswitches can move during the soldering.

/David




David,

Thank you for posting the picture of the modified 74490 turnout motors.


r/Thomas

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#48 Posted : 10 September 2010 21:01:18(UTC)
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So the reason of this that the motors are unreliable is that the endpoint micro switches stick or have poor contact?


I guess you can never use these with an analog button or it will melt the coil unless you have a very quick finger.
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#49 Posted : 10 September 2010 21:39:06(UTC)
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dntower85 wrote:
So the reason of this that the motors are unreliable is that the endpoint micro switches stick or have poor contact?


I guess you can never use these with an analog button or it will melt the coil unless you have a very quick finger.


No, the microswitches have good contact, but there´s a microscopic piece of copper inside that´s very sensitive for dirt which of course appears when there´s current through them. Almost all my motors have failed. I can take a picture if I find the microswitch I opened. There should be a picture on it on this forum.

Anyway, now I´m finished with the new tablework. I worked alot faster than I though.

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#50 Posted : 11 September 2010 02:29:12(UTC)
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I´ve got it! Here´s what have been missing. Well, I still do miss some tracks but it´s mostly finished. I´m gonna order the missing tracks ASAP. The buildings are temporary. I need to give them some height and better places. Is 12 mm. too high? I´ve got alot of spare plywood.

Tomorrow (=after I´ve slept) I´m gonna position the tracks and cut out the plywood for the turnouts and drill some holes for the power feeds.

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