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Offline Goofy  
#1 Posted : 29 August 2009 20:24:37(UTC)
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DCC = Digital Command Control
Offline steventrain  
#2 Posted : 29 August 2009 20:46:14(UTC)
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Thanks for the link, Goofy.
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Offline ulf999  
#3 Posted : 29 August 2009 22:42:52(UTC)
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Sweet. If only it 'ran' Loconet... [:p]
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Offline Goofy  
#4 Posted : 30 August 2009 01:45:47(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by ulf999
<br />Sweet. If only it 'ran' Loconet... [:p]


Not neccesary when ZIMO are worlds best digitalsystem,so that you don´t need other system to using it.

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Offline john black  
#5 Posted : 30 August 2009 02:27:18(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy
<br />ZIMO are worlds best digitalsystem so that you don´t need other system

Ahhh - you've just found the next one for your controller collection ... biggrinbiggrinbiggrin
(looks like my tv remote [xx(])

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#6 Posted : 30 August 2009 02:50:31(UTC)
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Lutz, you're just displaying your Marklin bigotry again. mfx in the great scheme of MRR matters very little, and I would guess that it would be low on the list of requirements from Zimo customers. Goofy is right, Zimo are probably the Rolls Royce of MRR controllers, they have some very interesting technology, especially in the train detection area. Some of their sound decoders are designed for driving Marklin C-Sine motors without further modification.

But they are very very expensive.
Offline ulf999  
#7 Posted : 30 August 2009 11:14:17(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy
Not neccesary when ZIMO are worlds best digitalsystem,so that you don´t need other system to using it.

Besides missing LocoNet a "worlds best digital system" is of little value when it isn't even able to properly control Märklin products; in particular their mfx devices. wink


Indeed. My dream throttle would run both mfx and dcc over loconet (my module club's standard) AND have a design from this century... (Lenzs' and Uhlenbrocks' look so 80's [xx(]...)
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#8 Posted : 30 August 2009 11:47:57(UTC)
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Oh that Marklin would incorporate Loconet into the CSx, or that there was a CAN bus to Loconet bridge available.
Offline Goofy  
#9 Posted : 30 August 2009 11:59:18(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy
<br />ZIMO are worlds best digitalsystem so that you don´t need other system

Ahhh - you've just found the next one for your controller collection ... biggrinbiggrinbiggrin
(looks like my tv remote [xx(])

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It´s the oldest one you see.
MX31 shall dissapear from the market very soon.
So the last order to get older controlcab has already done under June/July.

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Offline RayF  
#10 Posted : 30 August 2009 11:59:41(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy
<br />ZIMO are worlds best digitalsystem so that you don´t need other system

Ahhh - you've just found the next one for your controller collection ... biggrinbiggrinbiggrin
(looks like my tv remote [xx(])

UserPostedImage



This is possibly the worst controller I can imagine. I can't begin to imagine how to even hold it in my hands.

...and a sliding potentiometer for the throttle? Yugh! In my years in electronics I have found those to be the worst control devices possible.

...and what's with all those buttons???
Ray
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Offline Goofy  
#11 Posted : 30 August 2009 12:03:24(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz
<br />Lutz, you're just displaying your Marklin bigotry again. mfx in the great scheme of MRR matters very little, and I would guess that it would be low on the list of requirements from Zimo customers. Goofy is right, Zimo are probably the Rolls Royce of MRR controllers, they have some very interesting technology, especially in the train detection area. Some of their sound decoders are designed for driving Marklin C-Sine motors without further modification.

But they are very very expensive.


Yes,they are very expensive.
But they have damn good quality of products!


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Offline Goofy  
#12 Posted : 30 August 2009 12:05:03(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RayPayas
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black
<br />
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy
<br />ZIMO are worlds best digitalsystem so that you don´t need other system

Ahhh - you've just found the next one for your controller collection ... biggrinbiggrinbiggrin
(looks like my tv remote [xx(])

UserPostedImage



This is possibly the worst controller I can imagine. I can't begin to imagine how to even hold it in my hands.

...and a sliding potentiometer for the throttle? Yugh! In my years in electronics I have found those to be the worst control devices possible.

...and what's with all those buttons???


You have two hands by using them!!!
All buttons are for functions and to control locomotivs such like turnouts too.

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Offline RayF  
#13 Posted : 30 August 2009 12:17:27(UTC)
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I'm sorry Goofy, I'm not convinced. It's an awful controller, in my opinion. As John says, it looks like a TV remote. The Mobile station type of controller is much easier to hold and use in your hands.
Ray
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Offline Goofy  
#14 Posted : 30 August 2009 12:24:41(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RayPayas
<br />I'm sorry Goofy, I'm not convinced. It's an awful controller, in my opinion. As John says, it looks like a TV remote. The Mobile station type of controller is much easier to hold and use in your hands.


Yes about MS1...!
But MS1 cannot control all as you wanted it...!
ZIMO can do that plus extra more,than you might it...!
Even for MM with electronic digitaldecoder with all CV adress...!
And besides...did you checked at the new cabcontrol from ZIMO,by looking at link i did present...?

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#15 Posted : 30 August 2009 12:25:10(UTC)
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It's meant to be a handheld controller. Probably no worse than the ESU one, that had a thumbwheel on it to control speed, locomotive selection, etc.

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I suggest you check the Zimo website out, they have some amazing stuff.

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Offline RayF  
#16 Posted : 30 August 2009 12:48:57(UTC)
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David, that ESU controller looks much easier to hold in one hand. The Zimo one looks too bulky to do that, so you need both hands.

Goofy, yes I did look at your link. The latest model looks just like this one but with a colour screen, so my comments apply equally.

Guys, I have no wish to rubbish Zimo. I'm sure that they make many wonderful electronic devices. I am only commenting on the ergonomics of the controller, which I think shows lack of imagination and hasn't been given enough thought.

Of course, this is my opinion, and everyone can feel free to disagree.
Ray
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Offline john black  
#17 Posted : 30 August 2009 14:40:26(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RayPayas
<br />... a sliding potentiometer for the throttle? Yugh!

Right, Ray Cool - ergonomics rulezzz (this slider thingy been my very first impression, too) - eek !!! [B)][xx(]
When it comes to controls I'll never be (any) makers guinea pig. Gimme my 6021-throttle biggrin[}:)]
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Offline river6109  
#18 Posted : 30 August 2009 14:53:11(UTC)
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My interest lies in future outcomes with all the different gadgets, Märklin, ESU & Zimo.
I'm not an electronic whizz and know very little about electronics as a whole.
My favoured one, will be, to handle large layouts, simple to operate and may does'nt have all the options available on a hand held controller.
e.g. changing CV's, programming locos, etc.etc.
Nevertheless Zimo have good products, like with everyone else, changing technology, changes their modules, CS, decoders etc. etc.

so if you have been a Zimo fan and have followed all the updates and product changes, you have a deep money poket or a money tree in the backyard.

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#19 Posted : 30 August 2009 15:01:54(UTC)
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I have my doubts about the throttle control on this one. That aside this is what I wouldn't mind getting (once I update to CS1 Reloaded v3.0)

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Offline TimR  
#20 Posted : 30 August 2009 15:09:30(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz
<br /> Some of their sound decoders are designed for driving Marklin C-Sine motors without further modification.

But they are very very expensive.


It seems that this still not an alternative to running the large Sinus motor - as the decoders are of the 21-pin plug type that needs a Sinus board already on the lok.
Now collecting C-Sine models.
Offline john black  
#21 Posted : 30 August 2009 15:10:24(UTC)
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Well, BigDaddy (guess the small silver bar is the throttle) this one ain't be that bad, huh.
Reminds me a bit of an airplane controller, but operated by two fingers only.
Could be quite nice to handle if those servos are well-tuned ... Cool
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Offline jeehring  
#22 Posted : 30 August 2009 15:48:47(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz
<br />Lutz, you're just displaying your Marklin bigotry again. mfx in the great scheme of MRR matters very little, and I would guess that it would be low on the list of requirements from Zimo customers. Goofy is right, Zimo are probably the Rolls Royce of MRR controllers, they have some very interesting technology, especially in the train detection area. Some of their sound decoders are designed for driving Marklin C-Sine motors without further modification.

But they are very very expensive.



At very expensive prices...it's very easy to make a R-ROyce .((regardless the unique & so British style of this legendary car...).

However , I would'nt say " Rolls-Royce"...
Zimo has a technical approach , like if train were "professionnal" instead to be a hobby : sophisticated but complicated..."electronics for train" , instead of "electronics for people who are using/playing trains" , less "public", less "fun"...
Instead "Rolls Royce"...I would say " sport car" or "race car" or....winkSmile.

BTW : did you see....: they are talking about " card slot " , "alternative input ( whithout connected computer) for software updates",....e ven with probable different functionnallities...the idea has been made a reality on CS2 , ...already !( ....but you can do many things with a chipset card...)

The MX10 is not yet available....and we can see for THE FIRST TIME some Railcom functions :speedometer, fuel , etc....( will need some specific decoders too...)
Last year I had a discussion here with..."someone" ( a certain Gooffy ) who was assuring me that "Railcom functions" was very widespread for year & years...[:o)][:o)].
Offline Goofy  
#23 Posted : 30 August 2009 16:32:53(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RayPayas
<br />... a sliding potentiometer for the throttle? Yugh!

Right, Ray Cool - ergonomics rulezzz (this slider thingy been my very first impression, too) - eek !!! [B)][xx(]
When it comes to controls I'll never be (any) makers guinea pig. Gimme my 6021-throttle biggrin[}:)]



And Marklin has it too into MS1 and CS...!
Yugh and eek...!!!

[}:)]
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Offline RayF  
#24 Posted : 30 August 2009 18:03:07(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black
<br />
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RayPayas
<br />... a sliding potentiometer for the throttle? Yugh!

Right, Ray Cool - ergonomics rulezzz (this slider thingy been my very first impression, too) - eek !!! [B)][xx(]
When it comes to controls I'll never be (any) makers guinea pig. Gimme my 6021-throttle biggrin[}:)]



And Marklin has it too into MS1 and CS...!
Yugh and eek...!!!

[}:)]


Goofy, I think you'll find that Marklin use rotary controls not linear sliders.

I'm sorry that I don't agree with you, but there's no need to make this a childish argument. I have no doubt that Zimo makes a good control system, it's just the style of the handheld controller that bothers me. Let's leave it at that, shall we?
Ray
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Offline davemr  
#25 Posted : 30 August 2009 19:09:12(UTC)
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I dont really like the look of the controller and it does seem to have a rather small screen. However I have in the past used Zimo decoders and I found them to be very good. Had they made something to compete with the CS thne it would have been interesting. Their system does look to be much cheaper than Marklin but cant see it selling in great numbers.
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Offline Goofy  
#26 Posted : 30 August 2009 19:41:54(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by TimR
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz
<br /> Some of their sound decoders are designed for driving Marklin C-Sine motors without further modification.

But they are very very expensive.


It seems that this still not an alternative to running the large Sinus motor - as the decoders are of the 21-pin plug type that needs a Sinus board already on the lok.


ZIMO has already digitaldecoder for SDS motor too for MM,which also you can control via ZIMO cabcontrol.

Smile
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Offline Goofy  
#27 Posted : 30 August 2009 20:05:26(UTC)
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RayPayas
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black
<br />
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RayPayas
<br />... a sliding potentiometer for the throttle? Yugh!

Right, Ray Cool - ergonomics rulezzz (this slider thingy been my very first impression, too) - eek !!! [B)][xx(]
When it comes to controls I'll never be (any) makers guinea pig. Gimme my 6021-throttle biggrin[}:)]



And Marklin has it too into MS1 and CS...!
Yugh and eek...!!!

[}:)]


Goofy, I think you'll find that Marklin use rotary controls not linear sliders.

I'm sorry that I don't agree with you, but there's no need to make this a childish argument. I have no doubt that Zimo makes a good control system, it's just the style of the handheld controller that bothers me. Let's leave it at that, shall we?


Ehhhhh...?
Childish argument...?
And who did start like that...? [:(!]

ZIMOs scrollbutton on the right side is for meny and programming by to take next step and so further.
Just like Marklins MS1...
But ZIMOs is far better than Marklins MS1.

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Offline Rinus  
#28 Posted : 30 August 2009 21:50:22(UTC)
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I've visited their website after reading this tread.

Cant say its easy to find your way around there. [xx(]

I might be interested in one of their sound decoders. Does anyone know which train sounds are on their list?
Offline RayF  
#29 Posted : 30 August 2009 22:06:36(UTC)
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Sigh!!!Smile

I give up.

You're right, Goofy, it's a lovely controller.biggrin
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Offline davemr  
#30 Posted : 30 August 2009 22:25:31(UTC)
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biggrinbiggrin Very wise Ray
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#31 Posted : 31 August 2009 00:59:54(UTC)
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Offline Goofy  
#32 Posted : 31 August 2009 01:22:48(UTC)
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Check at this:

www.zimo.at/web2007/pdf/MX31E.pdf

This is for the old cabcontrol MX31.
The new one MX32 will arrived out soon with pdf.

Smile
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Offline Goofy  
#33 Posted : 31 August 2009 02:37:43(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RayPayas
<br />Sigh!!!Smile

I give up.

You're right, Goofy, it's a lovely controller.biggrin


Yuuuppp...!
That´s right!!!
Thanks!

Smile
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#34 Posted : 31 August 2009 04:23:26(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by john black
<br />Well, BigDaddy (guess the small silver bar is the throttle) this one ain't be that bad, huh.


That's correct John. It just looks a tad flimsy to me, but I guess the proof of the pudding is in the eating thereof. And given that ESU are still to release the Radio Control unit after announcing it a year or so ago, it might be a while before we get to 'eat'.
Offline john black  
#35 Posted : 31 August 2009 23:47:33(UTC)
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Smile
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Offline Goofy  
#36 Posted : 01 September 2009 00:42:47(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Evil R
<br />I've visited their website after reading this tread.

Cant say its easy to find your way around there. [xx(]

Unfoatunately that's what other people also think.



Visitors says so,when they visit ZIMO link for the first time. wink

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Offline Goofy  
#37 Posted : 01 September 2009 00:45:28(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich

Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:I might be interested in one of their sound decoders. Does anyone know which train sounds are on their list?

They don't offer own sound decoders (but another Austrian company does, with a "composition" of theirs).


And where is the evidence,that says ZIMO don´t created own sounddecoder,Lutz...?

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Offline Natvig  
#38 Posted : 01 September 2009 00:58:20(UTC)
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Austrian producer Zimo enjoy a most flattering reputation,- no doubt about it;- their decoders especially attracts lots of appraisal,- those handheld controller on the other hand,- although technically beyond critic,- must be the result of a mad mans thoughts,- a brilliant disaster when it comes to ergonomics!

G.Natvig


Offline dntower85  
#39 Posted : 01 September 2009 01:02:29(UTC)
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I don't like tiny menu screens, I have been tiring to help a buddy set up his MTH DCS system it is about the same size as the Zimo and it has a tiny menu screen that you have to jump from menu to menu to get anything set.
Give me a big screen with an obvious to use interface, that I don't have to have a manual in one hand to explain the cryptic acronyms and symbols on the remote.
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Offline Goofy  
#40 Posted : 01 September 2009 12:03:12(UTC)
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And where is the evidence,that says ZIMO don´t created own sounddecoder,Lutz...?

What I actually meant was that they have only created very few own sounds; most are even just generic sounds; not much different than the Märklin decoders #6093x and only available since less than a year; all others are either coming from different sources and/or have to be installed in a special way (cumbersome).


ZIMO has just start created soundsdceoder,so it takes a little time before they get all functions inside of sound.
But the most to think,is that they have now sounddecoder for Sinus and SDS motor too!

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Offline Goofy  
#41 Posted : 01 September 2009 12:07:07(UTC)
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Surprising how little you know.

This is the forum for "marklin-users"; hence it matters a lot to the audience here what another brand's controller capabilities are with respect to Märklin's digital stuff, like mfx, motor control, signal detection and feedback, etc.

Honestly, ZIMO is no more than a (yes, rather expensive) niche supplier. Interesting though (I've had many good discussions with Mr. Ziegler), but not any major player compared to other suppliers of digital controllers.




Lutz...!
ZIMO has MM too into theirs own digitalsystem and not only for DCC.
You can using Marklins locomotiv and driving with ZIMO digitalsystem.
So surprising how little you know yourself about ZIMO...!
Marklin-users.net is not only for Marklin stuff...!
Members welcome also others products,that can and works for MM too!
Even for DCC too,just because Marklin did put DCC inside of CS2!!!



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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#42 Posted : 01 September 2009 12:26:31(UTC)
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Surprising how little you know.



Surprising how little you know......

Guess what, I'm not talking from the perspective of Marklin users! This thread (in case your brain can't hold that much information for that long) is about Zimo products - I just don't see any mention of Marklin in the thread title.

Zimo aren't manufacturing just for Marklin fans. They are manufacturing for the wider MRR community who want to use DCC. Marklin, MM and mfx just does not have much relevance in that market.

Even someone like you should be able to understand that!

Then again, maybe it isn't so surprising how little you know......
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#43 Posted : 01 September 2009 17:53:44(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Hemmerich
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Bigdaddynz
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Surprising how little you know.



Surprising how little you know......

Guess what, I'm not talking from the perspective of Marklin users! This thread (in case your brain can't hold that much information for that long) is about Zimo products - I just don't see any mention of Marklin in the thread title.

Zimo aren't manufacturing just for Marklin fans. They are manufacturing for the wider MRR community who want to use DCC. Marklin, MM and mfx just does not have much relevance in that market.

Even someone like you should be able to understand that!

Then again, maybe it isn't so surprising how little you know......


Exactly...!
Marklin nows byself,that from not loosing a part of digitalmarket they did focus on DCC market too now.
ZIMO like other manufacture does producing also MM to supporting members of manufacture.
So to have damn good variation,it does help for customer in the market by choising digitalproducts...!
I welcome ZIMO in this forum too,just because they are producing MM protocol too...!
Damn so good as i want it...!!!

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#44 Posted : 01 September 2009 18:37:15(UTC)
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<br />in case your brain can't hold that much information for that long

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Offline Rud  
#45 Posted : 01 September 2009 18:59:42(UTC)
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Well David, Lutz will defend everything labelled "Märklin" while Goofy is desperately searching for something not labelled Märklin". But I guess you allready knew that.
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#46 Posted : 01 September 2009 19:07:27(UTC)
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Rud So right. Maybe they should get together in a special forum of their own.

Goofy. I agreee that Zimo make good products but this controller does not look great to me. If you compare it side by side with the CS2 then the Marklin controller with its big screen is easier to use and works well with other Marklin products.
As I have said I did use Zimo decoders a long time ago and I found them them to be very good indeed. If they have a suitable decoder for Marklin then I would certainly consider buying it but not their control sysytem
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#47 Posted : 01 September 2009 21:53:36(UTC)
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<br />Well David, Lutz will defend everything labelled "Märklin" while Goofy is desperately searching for something not labelled Märklin". But I guess you allready knew that.


ZIMO is supporting MM too...!!!
Something not labelled Marklin...??? confused
Are you **** stupid to writing like this,while other members of this forum are using others manefacture by driving MM...??? [:(!]

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Offline Purellum  
#48 Posted : 02 September 2009 00:18:20(UTC)
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[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Members welcome also others products,that can and works for MM too!

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Are you **** stupid to writing like this,while other members of this forum are using others manefacture by driving MM...???[:(!]
I think Goofy is talking about his best friend MM = Mickey Mouse biggrin

Then it all makes sense biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin

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#49 Posted : 02 September 2009 00:38:24(UTC)
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Well boys...

Goofy, mind your language - please... Lutz - actually there are alternatives for marklin-users... David, do not stir the pot...

And be nice to eachother !!
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#50 Posted : 02 September 2009 01:01:34(UTC)
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Zimo is great and so is Marklin.

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PS good thread this so dont spoil it.wink
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