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Offline kiwiAlan  
#51 Posted : 10 January 2015 00:57:18(UTC)
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I am puzzled - see attached.


Hmm, 'tis a bit of a jigsaw, you need to sort out the missing pieces ... Blushing

The locos and coaches look like UK stock, but ////I wouldn't have a clue where it is supposed to be situated. Could be Harwich or Dover as per the earlier poster shown in this thread.

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#52 Posted : 10 January 2015 16:38:46(UTC)
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Speaking of mystery locations on the Channel coast, here comes a pic of a free-lanced OO scale layout with a Night Train, the late Seabourne Marine (1984-1988).
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#53 Posted : 08 February 2015 13:54:44(UTC)
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To Alaska...
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#54 Posted : 22 February 2015 20:20:39(UTC)
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Danish inter-island rail ferry model in Odense, Denmark.

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Offline Dangermouse  
#55 Posted : 25 February 2015 22:25:51(UTC)
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The final train ferry built for the Dover-Dunkerque service was the Nord pas de Calais. She carried on as a conventional freight ferry after the channel tunnel opened.

If you go to Dunkerque on Google Earth and look carefully you can find the old train ferry linkspans. The older blue one (single deck, and you can still make out the track on it) was used for the older ships like the Vortigern, Chartres, St Eloi, St Germain and so on, and would have carried the Night Ferry until it was discontinued in the '80s. The one next to is was used by the NpdC, with rail on the lower deck and road vehicles on the upper.

Last I heard the Chartres and St Eloi were still in service in the Azores and Italy respectively. You can see the infilled railway lines on the car decks judging by the photos.

The Dover facilities were a bit unusual. The first berth was essentially a lock, in which the ship could be raised to keep the linkspan fairly level (rail being less tolerant of gradients than road). This led to an interesting problem when it was first filled, as the chalk it was carved into turned out to be porous and the water ran out as fast as it was pumped in! This was replaced by a longer computer-controlled ramp for the NpdC, which once mangled itself expensively after someone turned the power off before it had finished moving into the "stowed" position. The next time it was switched on it promptly attempted to squash the stern of the ship!
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#56 Posted : 26 February 2015 10:39:27(UTC)
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And here she is, the Nord Pas-de-Calais.
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#57 Posted : 26 February 2015 13:18:46(UTC)
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Greek owned Express Santorini (ex-Chartres) is currently operating in the Azorean archipelago.
https://www.atlanticolin...p;Itemid=188&lang=en
http://www.ferry-site.dk/ferry.php?id=7330040

Italian owned Moby Love (ex-Saint Eloi) is serving the Italian island of Elba.
http://www.mobylines.com...ombino-portoferraio.html
http://www.ferry-site.dk/ferry.php?id=7207451
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#58 Posted : 27 February 2015 00:44:28(UTC)
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I'm not sure what will happen to the NPdC now.

After BR and SNCF got out of the ferry business she was sold to SeaFrance, and then went to "MyFerryLink" (whose lease their ships from Eurotunnel, who had in turn bought the SeaFrance fleet to stop anyone else from getting hold of it and starting up in competition). A recent court ruling essentially instructed Eurotunnel to sell them or cease sailing from Dover, so it'll be interesting to see what happens next. As an ageing freight-only ship the future may not be bright for her.

You can find more photos here: http://www.doverferrypho...calais-past-and-present/ - if you go to the "past and present" tab you should also be able to find the earlier ships.

The story of taking an exhibition train of BR's then-latest stock to Hamburg via Dover and Dunkerque in 1988 is here: http://www.traintesting.com/IVA_88.htm

Finally, the "V" in this site's name stands for Vortigern, and they also have articles and photos of the other ex-train ferries in their Greek years: http://www.hhvferry.com/
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#59 Posted : 27 February 2015 11:19:59(UTC)
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What a story: BR stock travels via France and Benelux to attend the 1988 IVA trade fair in Hamburg, Germany. The photos are strong contenders for the "Mixed Railroads" thread under the forum's "Prototype" section - example taken at Hamburg-Dammtor Station attached. Many thanks for this!

:o)
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#60 Posted : 28 February 2015 14:05:04(UTC)
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Vintage construction drawing of Danish rail ferry.
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#61 Posted : 02 March 2015 14:05:50(UTC)
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The West India Fruit and Steamship Company operated a railcar ferry service between the Port of Palm Beach, Florida and Havana, Cuba from shortly after World War II until the beginning of the United States embargo against Cuba.
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#62 Posted : 02 March 2015 14:08:18(UTC)
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And they had a fleet of refrigerator cars, too.
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#63 Posted : 02 March 2015 14:38:53(UTC)
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And they had a fleet of refrigerator cars, too.


I guess 'mechanical refrigeration' meant using ice. Wonder how they did the 'mechanical heating' and why they needed it Confused

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#64 Posted : 02 March 2015 15:59:09(UTC)
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In the latter half of the 20th century, mechanical refrigeration began to replace ice-based systems; mechanical refrigeration - being a process by which heat is removed from a location using a man-made heat-exchange system - is not ice-based. As the ideal storage temperature for bananas is between 12 and 15ºC, an exterior temperature below that range would require heating. And finally, for some produce (after-) ripening is needed.
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#65 Posted : 02 March 2015 16:47:56(UTC)
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In the latter half of the 20th century, mechanical refrigeration began to replace ice-based systems; mechanical refrigeration - being a process by which heat is removed from a location using a man-made heat-exchange system - is not ice-based. As the ideal storage temperature for bananas is between 12 and 15ºC, an exterior temperature below that range would require heating. And finally, for some produce (after-) ripening is needed.


Ah, that explains it, thanks.

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#66 Posted : 03 March 2015 11:52:21(UTC)
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mechanical refrigeration - being a process by which heat is removed from a location using a man-made heat-exchange system


Hello Ak,

What sort of mechanical system do you mean to remove heat in this situation ?

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#67 Posted : 03 March 2015 13:51:43(UTC)
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Mechanical refrigeration-diesel powered unit in a freight car. In the first reefer photo above, the mechanical refrigeration unit is housed behind the grill at the lower right
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#68 Posted : 06 March 2015 17:06:29(UTC)
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The large Central Pacific (subsequently Southern Pacific) Railroad ferry "Solano" operated from 1879 until 1930 across the Californian Carquinez Strait.
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#69 Posted : 06 March 2015 17:53:04(UTC)
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HO scale model
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#70 Posted : 06 March 2015 18:18:41(UTC)
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Ah yes!
The Carquinez strait!
Part of my previous stomping grounds (also by boat, going up river toward the Sacramento river delta)
Then they built the Carquinez bridge and the ferry became obsolete....but trains still rule although they now cross at the other end of the strait on the Benicia bridge , and the space of the historic yard is now occupied by the C&H sugar plant...
One of the best spots for rail fanning in the bay area!
Trains and ships galore!
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#71 Posted : 08 March 2015 11:58:17(UTC)
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Another Solano pic.
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#72 Posted : 25 March 2015 20:13:04(UTC)
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Istanbul, Turkey.
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#73 Posted : 26 March 2015 11:13:40(UTC)
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I know ferries transporting refrigerated road trailers usually have power sockets (as you couldn't leave the diesel cooling plant running in an enclosed car deck). Not sure if they did the same for rail ferries?

The lone Class 89 you see in the Hamburg photo above is currently being restored to working order. It was a prototype for a new class of express passenger locos but the competing Class 91 was chosen instead. The prototype was used fairly extensively but suffered a few expensive breakdowns, allegedly because some bright spark decided to clean the bogies with a pressure washer. The traction motors objected to this by suffering flashovers...

It's now owned by the AC Loco Group who've repainted it into the original Intercity colours and are now raising funds to have the motors and control gear overhauled.
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#74 Posted : 23 May 2015 12:16:49(UTC)
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Fehmarn nostalgia.
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#75 Posted : 27 July 2015 01:28:29(UTC)
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Train ferry Civitavecchia↔Golfo Aranci
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#76 Posted : 29 July 2015 12:55:10(UTC)
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Van Lake, Turkey.
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#77 Posted : 26 December 2015 16:06:17(UTC)
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Train ferry carrying the 9-coaches Moscow-Simferopol train crosses the Kerch strait between Port Caucasus in southern Russia and Port Crimea.
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#78 Posted : 26 December 2015 19:58:58(UTC)
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Train ferry carrying the 9-coaches Moscow-Simferopol train crosses the Kerch strait between Port Caucasus in southern Russia and Port Crimea.
28838502,29763773,highRes,50834014_lowres.jpg


Interesting how many wagons they need to use to keep the locos off the drawbridge between ship and shore.

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#79 Posted : 05 May 2016 21:01:26(UTC)
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The train ferry M/S Trelleborg which was used on the Trelleborg - Sassnitz route was taken out of service in September 2014.

After that it was first in Rostock Seehafen and later in Uddevalla, Sweden. Earlier this year it was sold and renamed M/S Sunny. M/S Sunny left Uddevalla in early April and reached Pireaus in Greece on April 21st. It is now at a shipyard.
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#80 Posted : 19 July 2016 18:50:33(UTC)
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A Youtube video of shunting in Trelleborg harbour.

The ferry is M/S Mecklenburg-Vorpommern operated by Stena Line on the Trelleborg to Rostock route. It has got 6 tracks and a total track length of 1,048 metres and can take onboard a train of up to 945 metres. The crossing of the Baltic takes 6 hours and 30 minutes and this train ferry route is operated with this ferry and M/S Skåne.

M/S Mecklenburg-Vorpommern was delivered to Deutsche Fährgesellschaft Ostsee in Rostock, Germany, in 1996. It was transferred to Scandlines Deutschland GmbH in Rostock a year later and sold to GEFA Leasing GmbH in 1998 and in 2012 when Scandlines sold the ferry routes from Trelleborg to Germany to the Swedish ferry company Stena Line, the lease was taken over by Stena Line. The ferry has in addition to deck 3 with the railway tracks two additional decks for lorries and cars. Deck 4 is loaded/unloaded via a ramps in the harbours and deck 5 can be reached via a ramp inside the ferry.

The photo below (from Wikimedia) shows the ferry att Rostock Überseehafen and in the livery it had when operated by Deutsche Fährgesellschaft Ostsee.

Rostock Überseehafen

It could noted that the ferry operations of Deutsche Bundesbahn and Deutsche Reichsbahn was transferred to Deutsche Fährgesellschaft Ostsee in conjunction with the merging of the two railway operations into Deutsche Bahn after the German re-unification.
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#81 Posted : 12 April 2020 16:06:52(UTC)
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Between Wolgast and Usedom, 1995
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#82 Posted : 12 April 2020 18:36:08(UTC)
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Here is some videos of SF Ammonia and MF Storegut, on the Rjukan line. The ferries were in traffic until 1991. The ferry SF Hydro was the target of a Norwegian operation on 20 February 1944, when resistance fighters sank the ferry in the deepest part of Lake Tinn in order to prevent Nazi Germany from receiving heavy water.

Ammonia is claimed to be the world’s only surviving steam-powered rail ferry. She also portrayed Hydro in the 1965 film The Heroes of Telemark






Last day of official traffic, 1991


Norwegian tv 1981, https://tv.nrk.no/serie/norge-rundt/1981/FREP42005181/avspiller#t=24m55s

My own picture of Ammonia, taken 2015
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The DF Ammonia and MF Storegut is also produced as 1:87 models, by Selco.no (sold out)
Picture from selco.no
http://www.selco.no/ammonia/ammonia%20800x_2.jpg
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#83 Posted : 13 April 2020 00:42:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
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Between Wolgast and Usedom, 1995


Sorry Alsterstreek it cannot be 1995. Myself I was using a bridge in 1991 to cross the river Peene in Wolgast to come onto the island Usedom. By Wikipedia the bridge was out of order between April 1945 and March 1950. Nevertheless the new built bridge is much more of interest. And this bridge has a track line on it as well.



https://de.wikipedia.org...Peenebr%C3%BCcke_Wolgast

The new bridge is a so called "Waagebalkenklappbrücke" (nice German word - isn't it? In English perhaps translated to "balance beam bascule bridge") in every case the biggest one in Germany and a real big one.Picture by https://www.usedomsail.c...ungszeiten-region-usedom

A challenge for every modeller.BigGrin Cool
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#84 Posted : 13 April 2020 09:25:04(UTC)
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Sorry Alsterstreek it cannot be 1995. Myself I was using a bridge in 1991 to cross the river Peene in Wolgast to come onto the island Usedom. [...] And this bridge has a track line on it as well.

Construction of that new “Peenebrücke Wolgast“ started in 1994, it opened for road traffic in 1996 and only in 2000 for rail traffic. The delivery of the rebuilt rail car fleet in that livery occurred 1993-1995, for their transfer from the mainland to the island the ferry Stralsund was re-activated. See “Zeittafel” for details:

https://www.inselbahn.de...p?nav=1401060&lang=1

Maybe you crossed the Peene in 1991 via the „Zecheriner Brücke“ instead?
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#85 Posted : 13 April 2020 09:54:13(UTC)
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From the island railway operator‘s website:
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https://www.vmv-mbh.de/f...rag%2029062017%20VMV.pdf
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#86 Posted : 14 April 2020 01:06:34(UTC)
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From the island railway operator‘s website:
156C163C-9796-4E09-A5D1-C48ED554C0FC.jpeg
https://www.vmv-mbh.de/f...rag%2029062017%20VMV.pdf


Thank you very much. It is so interesting and substantial, don't you think we should open an separate thread about "seaside resorts railways at the Baltic Sea"? Because this thread is about "train ferries and barges" as you wrote in your first post. This thread here is also very interesting too. It should not be mixed up with the railroad system in Germany beside the Baltic Sea. 2 threads are worthwhile for these trains and ferry topics.

The only train ferry in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, I know about, is the Wittower ferry on the island Rügen. But indeed between Wolgast and Usedom was a train ferry with scheduled trains on it too - ended Dec 1st, 1990! Come back to this subject in an extra post.
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#87 Posted : 14 April 2020 02:16:02(UTC)
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My experience with train ferries is limited to the CN (Maritime Atlantic) MV Abegweit and MV John Hamilton Gray. I rode on each of those ferries when we travelled to Nova Scotia and PEI in 1974.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Abegweit_(1947)
https://en.wikipedia.org...ki/MV_John_Hamilton_Gray

These ships ran from Cape Tormentine, NB to Borden PEI for many years.
In addition to being car, rail and passenger ferries, they were also icebreakers and essential connections to the island Province of PEI (Prince Edward Island)

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#88 Posted : 16 April 2020 03:11:41(UTC)
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Between Wolgast and Usedom, 1995


Quote:
Maybe you crossed the Peene in 1991 via the „Zecheriner Brücke“ instead?


Not instead. I crossed both bridges several times purposely. Both (at that time) were the only ways to go onto the island Usedom by car. And the distance between the bridges (way over Usedom) is about 50 km. But my first destination on Usedom was the first spaceport in the world: Peenemünde. Beside the spaceport is a harbour. At these days filled up with the complete marine vessels of the just died DDR. I think in the harbour were about 50 or 60 all kinds of warships free for boarding by everybody. You could walk all around without any restrictions or limitations. I went inside in every room and see all techniques, weapons, etc. no restrictions, nothing. Was very interesting and unique. Probably a situation which never comes back. So the trains were not my first interest. Also I talked with people from the island about the train lines on the island. I only remember they mentioned an island network without any connection to the mainland. Even to Poland / Swinemünde the border was only open for pedestrians and bikes. So this train transportation on the picture was not a scheduled ones but certainly in Wolgast. This must have been just a special single transportation by whatever reason. For this transport they have taken the old prior ferry as a trail bridge.

But where I was looking for and could not find an answer: on top of this picture (half cutted off) stands:
"Wolgast, Hotel zum alten Fährhaus vor 1945". By your historic pages this Fährhaus was destroyed in 1945 and never rebuilt. But very strange this railbus on this pictures. I think I see the red logo from the DB AG on the bus. Then it must have been a single transport after 1994 (and yes possibly in 1995), when the DB AG was founded already. But also the riverside and the houses behind looks more like 1945 instead of 1995. Where did you get this strange picture from? It seems to by a mystically ones.
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#89 Posted : 16 April 2020 16:07:17(UTC)
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So this train transportation on the picture was not a scheduled ones but certainly in Wolgast. This must have been just a special single transportation by whatever reason. For this transport they have taken the old prior ferry as a trail bridge.
Even if repeating myself, here are the essential facts:

1. More than 20 rail cars of the series 771 and 971 were rebuilt and modernised and delivered from the mainland to the island of Usedom in the 1993-1995 timeframe.
Source: https://www.inselbahn.de...p?nav=1405457&lang=1

2. The above happened before the newly constructed combined road and rail bridge “Peenebrücke Wolgast“ opened for road or rail traffic.

3. Regarding the oldest railway steam ferry in the world, the „Stralsund“, the historic ferry´s support association ("Förderverein Dampf-Eisenbahnfährschiff Stralsund e.V.") reports: "The conversion of the train stock on the island of Usedom made a repeated reactivation necessary. In 1993, 21 passenger coaches were taken from the island and eight modern railcars were transferred for this purpose. In a second operation in the same year, it transferred six more railcars, ten passenger coaches and six locomotives. Similar operations followed in 1994 and 1995, with a tugboat always serving as propulsion."
Source (own translation): https://www.dampffaehrschiff-wolgast.org/historie

4. "Already in 1993 the complete fleet of vehicles is exchanged and the regular service on the island is established. Between Wolgast harbour and Wolgast ferry the ferry Stralsund transports railway vehicles from and to the island of Usedom."
Source (own translation): https://www.vmv-mbh.de/f...rag%2029062017%20VMV.pdf

Please let us close this chapter and move on.
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#90 Posted : 21 July 2020 21:35:23(UTC)
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#91 Posted : 30 July 2020 19:14:41(UTC)
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Until the 1970s there was a freight train ferry in the port of Hamburg - see 0:09-0:25 of this amateur video:



And a photo showing both ferries carrying the inspiring and sophisticated names “Fährschiff I” and “Fährschiff II”, respectively.
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#92 Posted : 17 March 2023 18:05:11(UTC)
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The Berlin-Malmö Snälltåget boards the Sassnitz-Trelleborg train ferry eight years ago

Cab view:


Passenger view:


Snälltåget night train leaving the Ferry from Malmo Sweden to Berlin three years ago.

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#93 Posted : 18 March 2023 16:43:28(UTC)
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Train ferry "Mecklenburg-Vorpommern" - freight train shunting in Sweden...

...and in Germany.

Both videos were posted one year ago.
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#94 Posted : 19 March 2023 11:58:06(UTC)
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Arrival of train ferry "Sassnitz" in Trelleborg, Sweden in 2013.
Freight car visible at stern 0:30-1:00.

Train ferry "Sassnitz" in Sassnitz, Germany during the early 1990s (until 3:05). Subsequently, the video covers the nearby Mukran ferry port with its mixed German standard and Russian broad gauge trackage.
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#95 Posted : 19 March 2023 23:44:14(UTC)
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Swedish modellers having a go at train ferries.



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#96 Posted : 20 March 2023 23:05:54(UTC)
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Rhythm RR Train Ferry testing out loading and unloading on both levels.


Loading of bi-level train ferry in layout scene #1 and un-loading of bi-level train ferry in layout scene #2:
06:15-06:45 dock #1 linkspan lowered to load lower level
09:15-09:50 ferry moved from scene #1 dock to scene #2 dock
14:06-14:26 dock #2 linkspan lowered to un-load lower level

If he was inspired by the CG Railway, a rail-ferry service between Mobile, Alabama (USA) and Coatzacoalcos, Mexico - see post #28 in below thread?

https://www.marklin-user...the-prototype#post442209
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#97 Posted : 26 May 2023 13:48:10(UTC)
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"Rail ferry is history for the night train Stockholm – Berlin":

https://www.railtech.com...-train-stockholm-berlin/
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#98 Posted : 26 May 2023 22:24:06(UTC)
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KiwiRail is in the proses of building new rail ferries for the Cook Strait.
https://www.irex.co.nz/new-ferries

and it will be the first ferries/passenger ships without conventional lifeboats, but instead have inflatable ones.
https://maritime-executive.com/article/kiwirail-signs-on-to-inflatable-lifeboat-revolution

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#99 Posted : 23 October 2023 15:52:07(UTC)
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Railroad ferry across the Rhine at Welle, Elten (Netherlands) - Kleve (Germany) railroad line, with steam locomotive No. 522 (later No. 6906 of the N.S.) in 1913.

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Source: https://hetutrechtsarchi...egen%22&filterAction
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