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Offline quarkhirad  
#1 Posted : 04 May 2015 07:32:34(UTC)
quarkhirad

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Hi everyone

Okay so i have a good colection of Marklin M-track and accessories. Now the thing is that i want to expand my layout so i was looking for a supplier of Marklin items in India. Though i could'nt find a marklin supplier i found a supplier of Peco and bachmann. So here is my question is Peco and Bachmann Ho scale a three rail system like marklin and if so then are they compatible with marklin tracks?

Offline H0  
#2 Posted : 04 May 2015 07:47:36(UTC)
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Hi!

Peco do not make three-rail tracks, but AFAIK they make centre rail studs for use with the two-rail tracks.
I have no own experience with Peco tracks. Wheel spacing could be a problem.

AFAIK only Märklin make three-rail track for Märklin trains.
Regards
Tom
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#3 Posted : 04 May 2015 10:59:49(UTC)
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Only code 100 track (= 2.5 mm rail) is suitable for Maerklin wheel flanges. There are two pre-fabricated solutions availabel for converting two-rail track to Maerklin style "three-rail track" (technically incorrect term used for ease of understanding); turnouts require a special treatment.

PECO SL-17 Stud Contact Strip for track (see left pic):
http://www.peco-uk.com/p...T_ID=3327&P_ID=17519

Erbert 073111 Punktkontakte im H0-Gleichstromkreis Baugröße H0 (see right pic):
http://www.conrad.de/ce/...stromkreis-Baugroesse-H0

Here a link to a pictured German description of a Maerklin user who - attracted by the wider choice turnouts by two-rail makers - adapted a two-track turnout by himself: alumininium foil from below, brass wire nails from above (placed between the sleepers), some soldering and brushing the nail tops for ensuring consistent height:
http://www.stayathome.ch/weichenumbau.htm
Alsterstreek attached the following image(s):
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#4 Posted : 04 May 2015 17:46:32(UTC)
kiwiAlan

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Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Go to Quoted Post
Only code 100 track (= 2.5 mm rail) is suitable for Maerklin wheel flanges. There are two pre-fabricated solutions availabel for converting two-rail track to Maerklin style "three-rail track" (technically incorrect term used for ease of understanding); turnouts require a special treatment.

PECO SL-17 Stud Contact Strip for track (see left pic):
http://www.peco-uk.com/p...T_ID=3327&P_ID=17519

Erbert 073111 Punktkontakte im H0-Gleichstromkreis Baugröße H0 (see right pic):
http://www.conrad.de/ce/...stromkreis-Baugroesse-H0

Here a link to a pictured German description of a Maerklin user who - attracted by the wider choice turnouts by two-rail makers - adapted a two-track turnout by himself: alumininium foil from below, brass wire nails from above (placed between the sleepers), some soldering and brushing the nail tops for ensuring consistent height:
http://www.stayathome.ch/weichenumbau.htm


You left out the Weichen Walter pukos which are available for Peco track (as well as Tillig), and quite frankly would be a much better system than either of those. I have seen the Peco center contact system (Alsterstreeks left hand photo) and quite frankly it looks ugly. It is certainly obvious to the viewer. The Weichen Walter solution looks a lot neater and can be made almost invisible. I haven't seen the offering from Conrad.

Weichen Walter puko page.

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Offline Modelleisenbahnfan  
#5 Posted : 05 May 2015 13:17:39(UTC)
Modelleisenbahnfan

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Hi,

there are people who drive with their Märklin wheel flanges on code 83 or code 75 track.
Not only the high of the rail profile (do you say so in english?) ist important. The high of the ironmongerys are very improtant, too.
If the are very fine, the Märklin wheels could drive also on code 75 - so some people say.*
But not with old Märklin rolling stock! Therefore it needs min. code 83 with very small ironmongerys. The track from "Weichen Walter" is code 83 and declared for all wheel flanges. But I haven't experiences yet.

I hope, I used the right english words.

*I will test newer Märklin rolling stock with the track of Weinert (code 75, produced from Peco for Weinert) in a few days. If you are interested, I could make a "field report".

kind regards

Robert
Märklin, what else?
Offline quarkhirad  
#6 Posted : 06 May 2015 06:51:56(UTC)
quarkhirad

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Location: surat
Hi all

Thanks for the replies. Good info . modelleisenbahnfan thanks the report will be very nice if you can do it.

Cheers

Offline Modelleisenbahnfan  
#7 Posted : 06 May 2015 11:11:43(UTC)
Modelleisenbahnfan

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Hi,

the report will come.ThumpUp

kind regards

Robert

P.S.: In a German forum, Walter Völklein ("Weichen-Walter") has confirmed the compartibility of the Weinert track with newer Märklin rolling stock, too.
I'm looking forward to my test. If it function, I will build my new layout perhaps with the (to Puko-System converted) Weinert track.
Märklin, what else?
Offline Modelleisenbahnfan  
#8 Posted : 13 May 2015 17:15:12(UTC)
Modelleisenbahnfan

Germany   
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Hi,

I will try to describe the result of my experiment in English:
It don't function really good. Attention: I'm very critical! I moved (by hand) a representative axle over my test-track form Weinert.
I felt a little "hobble". It's really little, but too much for me.
Enlarging the "Back-to-Back"-distance of the wheels isn't a solution.

My solution will most likely be:
I will use the "Schwellenrost/Schwellenband"* with Code 83-rail profile.

*I don't know the English Word. I mean this. It's the track without the profiles.
This exists also for the Weinert-switches.

I hope, my English was understandable...

kind regards

Robert
Märklin, what else?
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Offline quarkhirad  
#9 Posted : 16 May 2015 18:32:14(UTC)
quarkhirad

India   
Joined: 25/05/2012(UTC)
Posts: 52
Location: surat
Originally Posted by: Modelleisenbahnfan Go to Quoted Post
Hi,

I will try to describe the result of my experiment in English:
It don't function really good. Attention: I'm very critical! I moved (by hand) a representative axle over my test-track form Weinert.
I felt a little "hobble". It's really little, but too much for me.
Enlarging the "Back-to-Back"-distance of the wheels isn't a solution.

My solution will most likely be:
I will use the "Schwellenrost/Schwellenband"* with Code 83-rail profile.

*I don't know the English Word. I mean this. It's the track without the profiles.
This exists also for the Weinert-switches.

I hope, my English was understandable...

kind regards

Robert


Thanks for the report


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