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charles Sharpe		#1 Posted : 21 October 2009 00:46:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,432 Location: NORFOLK UK		I have a couple Marklin signals on my lay out I had a lot of trouble to programmed them in fact a dealer did it for me. So what other makes are out there and that you use. I would like to stay with the ones that have lights. Also on a box for marklin signals they have V2 sticker on them what is the difference between V2 and not V2. Charles Edited by user 21 October 2009 22:01:00(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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nevw		#2 Posted : 22 October 2009 07:09:49(UTC) Retweet
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davemr		#3 Posted : 22 October 2009 13:36:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 983 Location: ,		Hi Charles. Viessmann make a range of similar signals which are cheaper than Marklin. They have what appears to be a new range with built in decoders but i have not as yet tried them.
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Steamer01		#4 Posted : 22 October 2009 23:37:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/09/2009(UTC) Posts: 151 Location: The Netherlands		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by charles Sharpe <br />I have a couple Marklin signals on my lay out I had a lot of trouble to programmed them in fact a dealer did it for me. So what other makes are out there and that you use. I would like to stay with the ones that have lights. Also on a box for marklin signals they have V2 sticker on them what is the difference between V2 and not V2. Charles The signals worked very fine with the first Märklin digital components: Control unit / Central unit and with the keyboards. Than Märklin announced the first Central Station with systems and than it appeared sometimes that the modern light signals didn't do there job for the whole time. Therefore Märklin replaced the signal electronic. The signals with the sticker v2 work fine with the CS1 and CS2. Steamer01
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charles Sharpe		#5 Posted : 24 October 2009 20:11:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,432 Location: NORFOLK UK		Were is the best place to look at and buy Viessmann signals I am unable to find a wiring diagram in English.
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Philip		#6 Posted : 24 October 2009 20:24:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 267 Location: , Denmark		About a diagram, Look at there homepage: http://www.viessmann-modell.com/ It´s in english Philip
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charles Sharpe		#7 Posted : 24 October 2009 20:33:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,432 Location: NORFOLK UK		Hello Phillip. I tried the other night to log on and get the English page but I was unable to get to it I think I must have been to tied to see it. Many thanks Charles.
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davemr		#8 Posted : 25 October 2009 01:33:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/02/2009(UTC) Posts: 983 Location: ,		Viessmann catalogue is good for pics and a description of their signals.
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xxup		#9 Posted : 25 October 2009 01:54:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,463 Location: Australia		Yep my Marklin signals have started to play up since M4 was enabled on the eCOS... No problem until then.. Sigh!
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prjbourge		#10 Posted : 27 October 2009 21:28:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 07/04/2008(UTC) Posts: 46 Location: ,		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by davemr <br />Hi Charles. Viessmann make a range of similar signals which are cheaper than Marklin. They have what appears to be a new range with built in decoders but i have not as yet tried them. Hi I tried the new Viessmann range, which is described as "Multiplex" family. They are quite different from Märklin's models, but you cannot really talk about "built-in" decoders. In fact, the decoder is imbedded in a box, to which the signal is wired using a 4 pin connector. As opposed to M., the address is not encoded in the signal head but in the decoder (very easy to set, using a red button) : it means you can swap signal without recoding anything. here is the decoder : [img][/img] and the signal : [img][/img]
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Goofy		#11 Posted : 27 October 2009 21:31:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,012		Can this decoder from Viessmann works too for CS2...?
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Graham HO		#12 Posted : 27 October 2009 22:49:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/07/2008(UTC) Posts: 125		Interesting developement by Viessmann - external terminal blocks on this decoder, does this facility exist on other late model accessory control boxes?
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Ranjit		#13 Posted : 28 October 2009 04:09:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/06/2003(UTC) Posts: 3,009 Location: Chennai, Tamil Nadu, INDIA		Hi Pierre, I am so interested in this multiplexer gadget for light signals from Viessmann. What exactly does it do? How does it work? Cheers, Ranjit
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TimR		#14 Posted : 28 October 2009 04:31:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,752 Location: Jakarta		Link to Reynauld's Euro-Imports in regards to Viessmann 5229 http://www.euro-trains.c...ucts/Viessmann/5229.aspx I hope someone can shed more light to this product.
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Philip		#15 Posted : 28 October 2009 10:06:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 267 Location: , Denmark		TimR Have a look at this site: http://www.viessmann-mod...9_92349_01_DE-EN_web.pdf Philip
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Bigdaddynz		#16 Posted : 28 October 2009 10:38:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,663 Location: New Zealand		There is also a Viessmann book available which covers their signal range. German only I suspect. http://cgi.ebay.com/Vies...cher?hash=item5883d38b00
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Philip		#17 Posted : 28 October 2009 11:03:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 267 Location: , Denmark		Hello agian. I can see that a lot of you likes Viessman and are lookning for information abuot there products. why not go to there homepage, it´s also in english and they seem to have online shopping possibilities. http://www.viessmann-modell.com/ Philip
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charles Sharpe		#18 Posted : 28 October 2009 20:41:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,432 Location: NORFOLK UK		Could you tell me if the Viessmann 4043Ks signal would be suitable for stop and go were you have a loco that crosses the route of another loco. Also to use the same signal at the end of my platforms.
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Goofy		#19 Posted : 28 October 2009 20:58:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,012		It´s very expensive the new lightsignal from Viessmann!!! About in same prices of Marklins digitalsignal. [:0]
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charles Sharpe		#20 Posted : 28 October 2009 22:19:51(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,432 Location: NORFOLK UK		The Marklin 76391 is 52euro. The Viessmann 4043 is 23.56 euro both from lok shop
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Fredrik		#21 Posted : 29 October 2009 15:38:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 642		Yes - but then again you'll need a 5229 (multiplexer) from Viessmann to drive the signal, that's an additional € 31,16- (adds up to more than the M* signal as decoder is included).
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charles Sharpe		#22 Posted : 29 October 2009 16:16:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,432 Location: NORFOLK UK		I am not sure but I think the 5229 runs more than one signal.
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Goofy		#23 Posted : 29 October 2009 18:23:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,012		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by charles Sharpe <br />I am not sure but I think the 5229 runs more than one signal. Nope...! Just only one signal per each decoder 5229.
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charles Sharpe		#24 Posted : 29 October 2009 19:18:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,432 Location: NORFOLK UK		It looks as if I am back to Marklin . The last time we tried to program them it was on the CS1 I now have a CS2 and I wonder if it is any simpler to do But I don't see how. As I have remarked in the past I ended up sending them back to the supplier to do for me I felt so embarrassed .[:(]
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leo		#25 Posted : 31 October 2009 11:12:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/10/2009(UTC) Posts: 12 Location: ,		Hello all, this is my first post to the forum. I bought the Viessmann multiplexer few months ago and very satisfied with the product. One unit of Viessmann 5229 Multiplexer can control 1 Home Signal and 1 Distant Signal. Here are the photos I took few days ago. Hope you enjoy it
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Ranjit		#26 Posted : 31 October 2009 12:21:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/06/2003(UTC) Posts: 3,009 Location: Chennai, Tamil Nadu, INDIA		Welcome to the forum, Leo! Thank you for the illustration of the Viessmann 5229 multiplexer. So, it is possible to control two signals at a time, right? Cheers, Ranjit
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Fredrik		#27 Posted : 31 October 2009 14:00:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/07/2004(UTC) Posts: 642		No, not really - it can control 1 signal and it's distant signal. It can't control 2 main signals.
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leo		#28 Posted : 31 October 2009 15:38:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 31/10/2009(UTC) Posts: 12 Location: ,		Fredrik is right. The 5229 can only controls one Home Signal at a time. The 5229 needs only one command for the Home Signal and its Distant Signal. e.g. Address 21 Red ---> Home Signal HP0 --> Distant Signal Ks2
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frankie		#29 Posted : 01 November 2009 13:48:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 27/10/2006(UTC) Posts: 692 Location: Italy		It seems to me though that you can control only aspects of the signals, home and distant, ie. it doesn't cut the power on the track. Then you have some form of "train control" that stops the loco depending on the signal aspect.
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Ian555		#30 Posted : 01 November 2009 13:53:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2009(UTC) Posts: 20,240 Location: Scotland		Hi Leo, Welcome to the forum. Ian.
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Goofy		#31 Posted : 01 November 2009 14:05:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,012		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by frankie <br />It seems to me though that you can control only aspects of the signals, home and distant, ie. it doesn't cut the power on the track. Then you have some form of "train control" that stops the loco depending on the signal aspect. Nope...! If you connect at "bremsen",you cut the power off! By control signal...
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GSRR		#32 Posted : 01 November 2009 17:03:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/03/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,339 Location: USA		Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy <br /> Quote: [size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by frankie <br />It seems to me though that you can control only aspects of the signals, home and distant, ie. it doesn't cut the power on the track. Then you have some form of "train control" that stops the loco depending on the signal aspect. Nope...! If you connect at "bremsen",you cut the power off! By control signal... Hello Leo, Welcome to the forum. Goofy, when you mention "bremsen" are you speaking of the braking module 72441 / 72442? Regards, Thomas
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Goofy		#33 Posted : 01 November 2009 18:05:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,012		If you take look at this manual from 5229: www.viessmann-modell.com...9_92349_01_DE-EN_web.pdf
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steventrain		#34 Posted : 01 November 2009 22:17:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Hi and Welcome to the forum, Leo.
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Goofy		#35 Posted : 04 April 2015 14:31:00(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,012		Originally Posted by: Fredrik No, not really - it can control 1 signal and it's distant signal. It can't control 2 main signals. Viessmann do have a new signal decoder 52292,which you can connect 2 main signals.
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