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Offline db ice3  
#1 Posted : 04 February 2015 09:51:15(UTC)
db ice3


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can anyone help me out with this model number? 3359 ( i thought all marklin had 5 digit numbers in the catalogues ? )

i cannot find any info on it at all - only some images!

it doesnt come up on here searching or in the marklin database.

is it analogue or digital?

if its analogue, can a decoder be easily fitted / plugged in or is it a hard-wire type of decoder install?

many thanks again everyone! -))

your help is much appreciated by this newbie with much to learn!
Offline H0  
#2 Posted : 04 February 2015 10:05:04(UTC)
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3359 is analogue. It's from 1988. M* database only lists items from 2000 and later.
See also:
http://www.bahn.hfkern.de/Maerklin/CH_ce68.html

It's a rare item. While a decoder can be fitted, I think I wouldn't do it out of consideration for the collector's value.

Five-digit ref. numbers came around 1998.
Regards
Tom
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Offline RayF  
#3 Posted : 04 February 2015 10:21:04(UTC)
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Hi Jay,

Tom beat me to it.

You might also want to bookmark the following resources. The first one is Helmut Kern's as linked by Tom. A couple of them are run by Forum members.

http://www.hfkern.gmxhome.de/

http://www.modellbahnboerse.org/info.htm

http://www.bigio.it/Home/Home.htm

http://www.osterthun.com/models.htm
Ray
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Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Offline GlennM  
#4 Posted : 04 February 2015 10:31:43(UTC)
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Jay,

If you do decide to pursue this model, please be aware that there are a number of fakes is existence, and IIRC there is a thread on here dealing with this issue and showing some photographs of the different applications of the snow.

If you are after a digital green croc with snow effect you could look for model number 39569.

BR

Glenn
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Offline RayF  
#5 Posted : 04 February 2015 10:38:43(UTC)
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You can tell what technology the loco uses usually from the model number. There are many exceptions, but in general these apply, especially for older locos

30xx - analogue with electromechanical relay
31xx - analogue with electromechanical relay or early analogue starter set
32xx - Early analogue starter set
33xx - Analogue with electronic relay or some delta
34xx - Delta or some analogue with electronic relay
35xx - Analogue with 5 pole motor and load control
36xx - Digital with 6080 decoder
37xx - Digital with 6090 decoder
38xx - Digital 2 rail loco
39xx - Analogue loco in kit form

30xxx - Modern replica of early Marklin Loco fitted with digital decoder
31xxx - Special Loco sets
32xxx - Not used?
33xxx - Delta (some analogue with electronic relay)
34xxx - Delta
35xxx - not used
36xxx - Digital (Basic decoder)
37xxx - Digital with 60901 or later decoder
38xxx - Not used?
39xxx - Digital with C-sine motor or recently can motor

Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Offline db ice3  
#6 Posted : 04 February 2015 12:01:49(UTC)
db ice3


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wow

i need to say a HUGE thankyou to All of you for that response - a tremendous help!.

iv decided that since i would like to run the loco, and im digital, and taking into account HO's thoughts of it being rare + collectable, ( + therefore not wise to fit a decoder but keep original ) ... if i could afford to buy this AND buy one to run on my layout, then i would.

but i really want to run the loco, so in this instance, i wont buy this model and will instead look for 39569 as suggested very kindly by glennM.

thankyou all for such valuable help - you cant buy this level of knowledge and info - your all a fantastic bunch of really helpful people!.
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Offline Webmaster  
#7 Posted : 06 February 2015 22:07:24(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
You can tell what technology the loco uses usually from the model number. There are many exceptions, but in general these apply, especially for older locos

30xx - analogue with electromechanical relay
31xx - analogue with electromechanical relay or early analogue starter set
32xx - Early analogue starter set
33xx - Analogue with electronic relay or some delta
34xx - Delta or some analogue with electronic relay
35xx - Analogue with 5 pole motor and load control
36xx - Digital with 6080 decoder
37xx - Digital with 6090 decoder
38xx - Digital 2 rail loco
39xx - Analogue loco in kit form

30xxx - Modern replica of early Marklin Loco fitted with digital decoder
31xxx - Special Loco sets
32xxx - Not used?
33xxx - Delta (some analogue with electronic relay)
34xxx - Delta
35xxx - not used
36xxx - Digital (Basic decoder)
37xxx - Digital with 60901 or later decoder
38xxx - Not used?
39xxx - Digital with C-sine motor or recently can motor



However, as usual there are some exceptions from the numbering scheme...
Especially before the 5-digit scheme introduced in the late 90's... And also
with the 39xxx that was a firm C-sine notation until lately - as you also mention.

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Offline H0  
#8 Posted : 07 February 2015 07:52:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Webmaster Go to Quoted Post
However, as usual there are some exceptions from the numbering scheme...
Yep. Decades ago they showed a numbering scheme in the catalogue, but today there is more exception than scheme.

32xxx was used for the platinum product line:
http://www.marklin.com/c...exclusiv/Millennium.html

37xxx is "Digital with 6090 or later decoder".
30xxx was also used for Delta models (3000, 30951) and is still used for regular digital models (30000).
Regards
Tom
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Offline hennabm  
#9 Posted : 07 February 2015 18:18:39(UTC)
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Hi

The 3359 came as an "ordinary" green krok as well as a snow krok.

Which version were you searching for? If it is a snow krok you're after then Glenn and co advise is good.

If it just a krok then there are a number of options. I am analog through and through and have a 3352 brown krok. there are also many digital kroks now with much finer detail and scaling.Wink

PS - have you seen the details for the mid summer madness event? Can we tempt you to join us?

cheers
Mike
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What's digital?
Offline kiwiAlan  
#10 Posted : 07 February 2015 18:38:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Webmaster Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
You can tell what technology the loco uses usually from the model number. There are many exceptions, but in general these apply, especially for older locos

30xx - analogue with electromechanical relay
31xx - analogue with electromechanical relay or early analogue starter set
32xx - Early analogue starter set
33xx - Analogue with electronic relay or some delta
34xx - Delta or some analogue with electronic relay
35xx - Analogue with 5 pole motor and load control
36xx - Digital with 6080 decoder
37xx - Digital with 6090 decoder
38xx - Digital 2 rail loco
39xx - Analogue loco in kit form

30xxx - Modern replica of early Marklin Loco fitted with digital decoder
31xxx - Special Loco sets
32xxx - Not used?
33xxx - Delta (some analogue with electronic relay)
34xxx - Delta
35xxx - not used
36xxx - Digital (Basic decoder)
37xxx - Digital with 60901 or later decoder
38xxx - Not used?
39xxx - Digital with C-sine motor or recently can motor



However, as usual there are some exceptions from the numbering scheme...
Especially before the 5-digit scheme introduced in the late 90's... And also
with the 39xxx that was a firm C-sine notation until lately - as you also mention.



These days the 30xxx numbers are used for the lower detail locos, which were previously variously known as 'Primex' and 'Hobby' ranges, now it appears they have been rebranded as 'Marklin Start Up'. In general they will have the older style 'relex' couplers rather than the more modern close couplers.

I have a feeling there were a small number of locos manufactured in the Hamo 2 rail range using 38xxx numbers before Marklin bought Trix in about 1994/5. I don't think the production numbers were very high as I believe the range was not regarded that highly, and only had a few die hard enthusiasts to keep it going.
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