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Offline clapcott  
#1 Posted : 09 December 2014 08:01:32(UTC)
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Does anyone have any insight as to why a new GFP update is available (date 08.12.2014), but with a lower (older) version number v2.43?

The recent CS2 v3.8.1(11) package was accompanied by a GFP of v2.93.
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Offline H0  
#2 Posted : 09 December 2014 08:23:53(UTC)
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Hi, Peter,

USB updates always come a little bit later (if they come at all).
2.43 is the newest GFP available for USB updates. A CS2 connected to the Web will download 2.93.

Edit: The version coming through the Web update was downgraded to 2.43.
Regards
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Offline clapcott  
#3 Posted : 09 December 2014 08:41:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
... A CS2 connected to the Web will download 2.93.


Hi Tom ,

I was not referring to the USB version
As of right now , A CS2 connected to the internet will indicate it has 2.43 available for download
Peter
Offline H0  
#4 Posted : 09 December 2014 11:01:32(UTC)
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Did you install it? Do you see 2.93 again after downgrading to 2.43?

I can only speculate that 2.43 is back because there are serious new bugs with 2.93. In that case the 2.93 should not show up again after the downgrade.

With 10 boosters you have to re-start the CS2 11 times during the upgrade because after each re-boot one booster will be upgraded. Maybe this is the reason why 2.93 was withdrawn.

This leaves the question: should people who successfully installed 2.93 downgrade to 2.43 or not?
So far there is only speculation on Stummi's Forum.

Märklin just updated their website to read "Die aktuelle Software-Version für das Online-Update ist 3.8.1 (mit GFP 2.43)". No further information given.
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Offline franciscohg  
#5 Posted : 09 December 2014 12:10:49(UTC)
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Grrrrrrr.
The Long gone " no track processor available - you can't control anything with this unit" is back......
Thought it was just due to the updating process...but with this information I will 're-"update" as soon as I'm back home
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Offline Dgriman  
#6 Posted : 13 December 2014 16:06:41(UTC)
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Hi all,

After checking online with my cs2 for anything new update I got a message that I must downgrade to 2,43 from 2,93. And I accepted. Cursing
After long period of waiting at 0% (about 30 mins) I took the decision to reboot my cs2.
At the next boot, I got the message again about to downgrade again, and of course I accepted again Cursing , this time the downgrade was normal and I reboot my CS2. But after the reboot my cs2 is unusable because I got the warning about no track format processor available.

Any idea anyone ? Scared

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Offline Dgriman  
#7 Posted : 13 December 2014 16:21:18(UTC)
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One more reboot pop up this message !!!!

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Offline Dgriman  
#8 Posted : 14 December 2014 10:54:44(UTC)
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Still nothing here, CS2 is out of TFP trying to downgrade, anyone who could help me ?

I'll appreciate.
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Offline RUBEN SPAIN  
#9 Posted : 14 December 2014 11:59:21(UTC)
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Try do do this.

Download the update for USB pendrive and try to make the update from the USB update-software.
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Offline Dgriman  
#10 Posted : 14 December 2014 12:27:34(UTC)
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Thank you Ruben for your response !

I already done that, my CS2 sais 3.7.0 (7).

Actually my steps so far was these :
1. My cs2 was 3.8.1 with 2,93, and I decide to see for any update, because I had problem with auto recognition of mfx locos. so I initiate the internet update and I receive the message to downgrade TFP to 2.43.
2. So I Downgrade to 2.43 from 2.93 as marklin provided from online update. Nothing happened, at 0% for 30 mins,
3. Turn off and boot again, CS2 sais I had to downgrade TFP to 2.43 without update procedure. Again nothing happened,
4. I update my CS2 from USB to 3.7.0, the problem with TFP remains the same.
5. Update again from Internet to 3.8.1, same story with TFP,
6. I update for 2nd time from usb to 3.7, but the story is the same.

So far my cs2 sais "An update for TFP is running. Do not turn this unit off". The bar remains at 0% about 2:30 hours.... as all the others times.

Edited by user 18 December 2014 01:52:35(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Offline NewMB  
#11 Posted : 17 December 2014 22:31:52(UTC)
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Mine just did the downgrade to 2.43 and it popped up 4 times, same number as i have boosters. Now personally i can't give a hoot what version i have as long as it works!
Offline RUBEN SPAIN  
#12 Posted : 17 December 2014 23:32:32(UTC)
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Hello and good night.

I think your CS2 needs to go to Goppingen to fix this problem. But before, I hope you can try again with a _USB software update, but not 3.7.0.

Try to install the cs2 2.0.1 update or 1.6.4 update by USB.

Here it is the 2.0 update file. If you need 1.6.4 send me a message because it is 19 MB and can not be attached in this post with 2.0.
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Offline Dgriman  
#13 Posted : 18 December 2014 01:49:26(UTC)
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Thank you Ruben again !

Today I sent my CS2 for Service in Maerklin, I hope to find the problem and restore it. Now I wait to hear the news from m.



I appreciate your try to help me !.
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Offline Dgriman  
#14 Posted : 18 December 2014 01:54:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: franciscohg Go to Quoted Post
Grrrrrrr.
The Long gone " no track processor available - you can't control anything with this unit" is back......
Thought it was just due to the updating process...but with this information I will 're-"update" as soon as I'm back home


Any news from your try to downgrade ?
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Offline Gert-Jan  
#15 Posted : 20 December 2014 22:31:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Dgriman Go to Quoted Post
Any news from your try to downgrade ?


I just performed the 'downgrade', basically as suggested by the CS2 update routine.
Now I am having problems with several locs that just do not run any more.
Some do, others just don't....as far tested: MFX specific

The just do not react, no functions...nothing.
Hopefully a full power down restart might help Cursing

Edit 1:
Just did a power cut down reboot. A faulty MFX loc is recognized again and working. So that might be just a MFX refresh issue.

Another new 'issue':
When I go to loc setup and try to read-out the CV values, an error message appears.
"Connectivity to loc not possible. Reason/error: 2.
(Original message in German -> Bind auf mfx-Lok BR 23 008 nicht möglich. (Grund: 2)

Happens both when 'Programming on the main POM'. Manual states that it is not possible to read data from the loc in this mode.
However this was possible before my last CS2 update....Tried to read out CV registers on the programming track, same error.

Edit 2:
Gave it a night rest and started up this morning.
All working fine again Glare for no obvious reason.

Edited by user 21 December 2014 11:08:15(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Mosty era III DB.
Offline Dgriman  
#16 Posted : 28 February 2015 10:21:35(UTC)
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Hi all !!!

Great news !!!

yesterday I received my CS2 from m, they send it back repaired from the problem of downgrade, also I discover, that they change the motherboard with a new one, it was hardware v. 4.33 and now it is v. 5.1 BigGrin

Everything looks fine, now I have also the ability to turn on the CS2 from the main STOP button !!!
Also the software is 3.8.1 (11)


Thank you all for your Assistance.

Dimitris

Edited by user 28 February 2015 15:31:38(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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