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Offline 20-VOLT-AC  
#1 Posted : 31 October 2014 22:05:36(UTC)
20-VOLT-AC

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Hello .

Does anyone know when the RE 800 Swiss locomotive first appeared in the Marklin printed catalogues ?

Neil.ThumpUp
1950's Marklin Fan .
Offline steventrain  
#2 Posted : 31 October 2014 22:14:35(UTC)
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'New Engines' on page 11 in the 1950 catalogue.
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Offline 20-VOLT-AC  
#3 Posted : 31 October 2014 22:30:37(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
'New Engines' on page 11 in the 1950 catalogue.


Hello Steven.

Thank you for your knowledge and help with this question.

Regards Neil.
1950's Marklin Fan .
Offline jvuye  
#4 Posted : 31 October 2014 22:58:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 20-VOLT-AC Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
'New Engines' on page 11 in the 1950 catalogue.


Hello Steven.

Thank you for your knowledge and help with this question.

Regards Neil.


Yes , correct!
Good opportunity to remember how significant this loco architecture (motor, transmission, lights, etc.) was **years** ahead of competition when it came out!
The precision and complexity of that model was way beyond anything that had been done at the time in the model RR industry.

I haven't seen yet any convincing evidence that that technological forward leap was the result of Märklin's activity during WW II.

The key here is the unbelievable precision of the helicoidal gears used in that model.
Helicoidal gears were totally unheard of in the model RR industry at the time, and even today they are a very rare exception (not to be mistaken with worm and pinion transmission which today seems to be the rule)
So if you own one, count your blessings!

Jacques Vuye aka Dr.Eisenbahn
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Offline Nigel Packer  
#5 Posted : 01 November 2014 00:39:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jvuye Go to Quoted Post

Good opportunity to remember how significant this loco architecture (motor, transmission, lights, etc.) was **years** ahead of competition when it came out!
The precision and complexity of that model was way beyond anything that had been done at the time in the model RR industry.

I haven't seen yet any convincing evidence that that technological forward leap was the result of Märklin's activity during WW II.

The key here is the unbelievable precision of the helicoidal gears used in that model.
Helicoidal gears were totally unheard of in the model RR industry at the time, and even today they are a very rare exception (not to be mistaken with worm and pinion transmission which today seems to be the rule)
So if you own one, count your blessings!



Yes, it's a stunning piece of model engineering. It must have been very impressive to those fortunate enough to own one in 1950. I acquired mine much more recently than that, but it's nevertheless a stand-out model in my collection.

Nigel
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Offline cookee_nz  
#6 Posted : 01 November 2014 08:36:58(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 20-VOLT-AC Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
'New Engines' on page 11 in the 1950 catalogue.


Hello Steven.

Thank you for your knowledge and help with this question.

Regards Neil.


And of course, a picture paints 1,000 words.....

In 1951 it came included in a start-set with the matching coaches - a fine looking consist for sure ThumpUp
cookee_nz attached the following image(s):
re800-1950-p11.jpg
re848-4-1951-p17.jpg
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Offline 20-VOLT-AC  
#7 Posted : 01 November 2014 09:34:44(UTC)
20-VOLT-AC

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Hello Guy's.

Thank you for all your interesting comments on this post , yes the RE800 was truly ahead of it's time in 1950 !!

Regards Neil.
1950's Marklin Fan .
Offline MikeR  
#8 Posted : 01 November 2014 10:17:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: jvuye Go to Quoted Post

The key here is the unbelievable precision of the helicoidal gears used in that model.
Helicoidal gears were totally unheard of in the model RR industry at the time, and even today they are a very rare exception (not to be mistaken with worm and pinion transmission which today seems to be the rule)
So if you own one, count your blessings!



Hi Jacques

I have an old CCS800 (version5/6) and I thought that the helicoidal gears were first used on this loco. Did the first CCS800 have different transmission system?
Mike
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Offline kiwiAlan  
#9 Posted : 01 November 2014 14:14:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: 20-VOLT-AC Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
'New Engines' on page 11 in the 1950 catalogue.


Hello Steven.

Thank you for your knowledge and help with this question.

Regards Neil.


And of course, a picture paints 1,000 words.....

In 1951 it came included in a start-set with the matching coaches - a fine looking consist for sure ThumpUp


IIRC those coaches had a knob on the roof that looked like a ventilator. If you turned the knob the doors opened. Am I correct with this?

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