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Offline RayF  
#1 Posted : 29 August 2014 09:50:49(UTC)
RayF

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Hi folks,

I'm very pleased to see that there has recently been a spate of new toolings from Marklin for the big steamers. I am refering to locos with seperate tender only here. We could talk about tank engines in a different thread. I wonder which we will be treated to next?

As far as I can remember, in the last 10 years or so we have seen new toolings for the following. I've probably made a few mistakes in my list. Please feel free to correct me!

Br01
Br03 - old boiler
Br03 - new boiler
Br03.10 - new boiler
Br05 - streamlined
Br05 - un-streamlined
Br18.3
Br23
Br24
Br38.10-40 (P8)
Br39.0-2
Br41 - old boiler
Br41 - new boiler
Br042 (Br41 oil)
Br45
Br50
Br50.40 - Franco-Crosti boiler
Br56.2-8 (G8.1)
Br58.10-21 (G12)

The current offerings of the following are still AFAIK the old tooling, though some are from the 1990s and are really quite good by today's standards.

Br01.10
Br03.10 - streamlined
Br10
Br17.0 (1990s tooling)
Br18.1 (1990s tooling)
Br18.4
Br34.x (1990s tooling)
Br42.90 (Franco Crosti)
Br043 (Br44 oil)
Br44
Br52
Br53
Br55 (1990's tooling)
Br59 (1990s tooling)

So, what will we get next?
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Offline Andrey  
#2 Posted : 29 August 2014 12:08:09(UTC)
Andrey

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Hi Ray,

thanks for that rather comprehensive list! ThumpUp
I guess BR 42.90 Franco Crosti is missing in the last 10 year's (let's say since 2000) list.
Also I think BR 24 is not a competely new tooling introduced in 2000s (please someone correct me if I wrong), just change of the older tooling took place.

As for the future expectations:
- change of the tooling for existing new moulds - newer BR 50 without front skirting and with cab tender, more BR 03s and BR 50s with Wagner deflectors in Era II. Most expected - BR 52 using BR 50 new tooling (if possible);
- new tooling for the locomotives from your second list - BR 01.10 (+streamlined version), BR 03 streamlined and so on.

I'm trying to think realistic. Mellow

Best regards, Andrey

Offline RayF  
#3 Posted : 29 August 2014 12:17:17(UTC)
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Thanks for your comments, Andrey.

The Br42.90 is also a modified Br50. I'll change the list to reflect the right numbers.

I'm not sure you're right about the Br24. The new tooling looks significantly different to the old 3003. It is much more detailed and has a can motor instead of the old SFCM motor. Is there anyone who has both and who can confirm this?

Thanks!
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
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Offline biedmatt  
#4 Posted : 29 August 2014 14:28:49(UTC)
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3003 and 3624x are completely different. I have both. 3003 uses the coffee grinder and 3624x uses a can motor, besides other significant differences. The tires are the only item identical to both.
Matt
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Offline H0  
#5 Posted : 29 August 2014 14:43:05(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
The Br42.90 is also a modified Br50.
BR 42.90 is a modified BR 52. BR 52 is an economised BR 50. So indirectly BR 42.90 is a modified BR 50.

I think there will be a new BR 44 someday.

They never made a BR 42 AFAIK, but a BR 44 will have more potential buyers than a BR 42.
Regards
Tom
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Offline steventrain  
#6 Posted : 30 August 2014 09:42:27(UTC)
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Year of new tooling for steam with tender.

1950-BR44
1952-BR01
1954-BR23
1956-BR24
1967-BR38
1970-BR03.10 Streamlined
1972-BR18.4 (Blackened wheels from 1997)
1973-BR03 (Blackened wheels from 1993)
1974-BR50 Cab tender (Blackened wheels from late 1990s)
1978-BR41 (Blackened wheels from 1993)
1979-BR53 Borsig (blackened wheels from 1991)
1984-BR01.10 (BR011/BR012)
1988- CLASS C BR18.1
1992-BR03.10 Streamlined (Part new tooling with fine rods and Blackened wheels) and BR34
1994-BR52 (Part new tooling?)
1995-BR17
1996-BR44 (Part new tooling with blackened wheels)
1999-BR55 and BR10
2000-BR59
2001 Big Boy and BR42 (Part new tooling?)
2002-BR45
2003-BR38 fine detail, Swiss Khein, and Mikado.
2004 BR05 streamlined
2005-BR61
2006-BR01 fine detail
2007-BR05 De-streamlined
2008-BR18.3 and BR24 fine detail
2009-BR23 fine detail and BR39
2010-BR03.10
2011-BR50.40 and BR042
2012-BR50 fine detail and BR56.2
2013-BR58, BR03 fine detail and BR45 (Part new tooling).
2014-BR41 fine detail and BR05 cab forward.

I am not 100% sure, Can it confirm the correct?
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Offline RayF  
#7 Posted : 30 August 2014 09:52:27(UTC)
RayF

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Stephen, that looks about right to me, but to be 100% sure i'd have to go back and check the catalogues.

The only correction I might make at this point is that I believe that the Br44 of 1996 was a new tooling, not a part new tooling, as it is completely different from the earlier Br44 from 1950s.

Thanks for your hard work!
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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