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Offline arawata  
#1 Posted : 21 June 2014 12:23:22(UTC)
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Hi Guys,
I would like to acquire some non-Marklin rolling stock but am not sure what I should be looking for to ensure compatibility with the few Marklin carriages I have. I have an analogue, M track layout - what brands should I be looking for that have compatible couplers, wheels, etc? Any clues gratefully accepted.
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#2 Posted : 21 June 2014 12:39:09(UTC)
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Hi,
Older Marklin have fixed couplers, which are traditionally called Relex couplers.

Most newer Marklin (since about 1990) have couplers that are interchangeable, because they have the standard coupler box. (called NEM modelling standard).

Which type couplers are on your rolling stock?

Kimball
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#3 Posted : 21 June 2014 13:06:39(UTC)
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Roco is one brand you can try, they have 3 different couplers and one of them is definitely compatible while the other is semi compatible, if you decide to add different brand carriages to your collection you always can start with the loco, 1 Märklin carriage 1 compatible coupler carriage and than use the same coupling device on the other end for the rest of your different brand carriages, preferable with coupling shafts or pockets and than using the same coupling device

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Offline arawata  
#4 Posted : 21 June 2014 13:27:02(UTC)
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Just us Aussies on-line at the moment, huh? Thanks for the replies, guys. I am a total newbie, replicating a Marklin layout I had as a kid 40 years ago, but hoping to grow this into a hobby I can enjoy for years to come.
Anyway, I'd love to hear of any suggestions for websites or other resources that a beginner should visit for basic information (such as my coupler compatibility question) before asking questions on this forum. I don't want to hassle you guys over questions that have been answered before.
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#5 Posted : 22 June 2014 00:14:40(UTC)
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It sounds like you have older Marklin, with Relex couplers.

Some modern rolling stock will come with suitable couplers. (eg Roco, Piko).
Otherwise, you can purchase any modern rolling stock with the interchangeable coupler (NEM 362 coupler box), and replace the coupler with the Marklin 72060 coupler (available in boxes of 50).

I think you may also find by experimenting, that older Lima and Rivarossi models with fixed couplers will couple up OK.

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Offline H0  
#6 Posted : 22 June 2014 07:41:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
Otherwise, you can purchase any modern rolling stock with the interchangeable coupler (NEM 362 coupler box), and replace the coupler with the Marklin 72060 coupler (available in boxes of 50).
I'm sorry, but I have to contradict: the Märklin 72060 is IMHO a bad choice for rolling stock with close coupler guiding mechanism - it can lead to problems with long consists, especially push/pull trains. Märklin 7203 is even worse.

For scale rail road models the Roco Universal Coupler (40397 is a pack of 50) is a good choice. The Märklin 7203 will cause derailments as it collides with the buffers of some models, especially with long Roco coaches.

@arawata:
When buying new items from specialised dealers, you can have the wheel sets of the rolling stock swapped for three-rail wheel sets.
I use C track. I swap wheel sets with all Piko items, but successfully run items from Roco, Fleischmann, Liliput with the original two-rail wheel sets - but things could be different with M track.
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Offline Dimi194  
#7 Posted : 22 June 2014 09:18:04(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
Otherwise, you can purchase any modern rolling stock with the interchangeable coupler (NEM 362 coupler box), and replace the coupler with the Marklin 72060 coupler (available in boxes of 50).
I'm sorry, but I have to contradict: the Märklin 72060 is IMHO a bad choice for rolling stock with close coupler guiding mechanism - it can lead to problems with long consists, especially push/pull trains. Märklin 7203 is even worse.

For scale rail road models the Roco Universal Coupler (40397 is a pack of 50) is a good choice. The Märklin 7203 will cause derailments as it collides with the buffers of some models, especially with long Roco coaches.

@arawata:
When buying new items from specialised dealers, you can have the wheel sets of the rolling stock swapped for three-rail wheel sets.
I use C track. I swap wheel sets with all Piko items, but successfully run items from Roco, Fleischmann, Liliput with the original two-rail wheel sets - but things could be different with M track.


I haven't had trouble after converting all my rolling stock to the close couplers... but I don't have the space (or wagons) to run long trains Flapper
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Offline arawata  
#8 Posted : 22 June 2014 10:37:41(UTC)
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Thanks for all the very informative replies everyone. I do currently have older Marklin carriages with non-removable couplers, but will no doubt be branching out into other styles and brands.
Thanks again!
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Offline H0  
#9 Posted : 23 June 2014 08:12:43(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: arawata Go to Quoted Post
I would like to acquire some non-Marklin rolling stock but am not sure what I should be looking for to ensure compatibility with the few Marklin carriages I have.
Here's a blog post introducing Märklin Close Couplers, Roco Universal Couplers, Roco Close Couplers, and Fleischmann Profi Couplers - for those about to buy new rolling stock with NEM 362 coupler pockets for use on three-rail H0 track:
http://blog.mailez.de/eblog/?p=65
Regards
Tom
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