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NS1200		#1 Posted : 16 January 2014 14:14:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/08/2009(UTC) Posts: 3,443		Now that Marklin have announced the release of a Santa Fe "Super Chief" train for 2014,a set with F7 A-B-B units and 6 alu coaches,i looked into the actual history of this magnificent luxury train,"The train of the stars". Producer Walthers in the USA have announced a similar train with individual coaches to be purchased. Walthers also discloses the history of the train,with examples of actual consists. There were 6 complete trains on a daily service between Chicago and Los Angeles. The 1954 version had a total of 14 coaches,the 1958 version was in combination with "El Capitan",total 17 coaches. Various combinations of A and B units were used. It would be great to see the Marklin set run with 14 coaches! See www.walthers.com/exec/page/super_chief .
		Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).

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biedmatt		#2 Posted : 16 January 2014 14:26:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,343 Location: Southwest Ohio		Beautiful set. It does not fit my era (Europe, era 3). A few years back I would have been all over it, it is very desirable. But if I bought every gorgeous item Marklin made, I would be broke. Keeping to my era and region keeps me (barely) solvent.
		Matt Era 3 DB lokos, coaches and freight cars from across Europe But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control. With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397.

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NS1200		#3 Posted : 16 January 2014 15:01:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/08/2009(UTC) Posts: 3,443		Originally Posted by: biedmatt Beautiful set. It does not fit my era (Europe, era 3). A few years back I would have been all over it, it is very desirable. But if I bought every gorgeous item Marklin made, I would be broke. Keeping to my era and region keeps me (barely) solvent. Very true my friend! The Marklin factory turns out more product than we can handle. In my case it is more satisfactory to buy a limited number of items from saved money rather than buying a lot of stuff from borrowed money. I have the 3060/4060 Santa Fe A-A,purely analogue,no need to have another set. The Santa Fe coaches I purchased one by one some 10 years back,and sold them! As explained in another topic on this forum Marklin issued a very nice California Zephyr set with A-B-B loco and 6 coaches some 15 years back,going price is Euro 500.-. Still,USA trains appeal to me because long range Diesel passenger trains are not common in Europe. I find the names fantastic,"El Capitan" smells like a good oldfashioned western movie! Interesting to note perhaps that the prototype coaches were made of light steel ("Budd cars") whereas the Marklin coaches are made of aluminium. Cheers, Paul. Edited by user 17 January 2014 17:43:46(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified
		Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).

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RayF		#4 Posted : 16 January 2014 17:18:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,839 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		It is indeed a beautiful set! Also for reasons of budget I decided, years ago, to refrain from getting any Marklin US trains, though I have been tempted recently to include a representative F7 in my collection.
		Ray Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.


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foumaro		#5 Posted : 17 January 2014 04:56:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,420 Location: Attiki Athens Greece		Originally Posted by: RayF It is indeed a beautiful set! Also for reasons of budget I decided, years ago, to refrain from getting any Marklin US trains, though I have been tempted recently to include a representative F7 in my collection. An Alco is not a bad idea too.


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RayF		#6 Posted : 17 January 2014 17:08:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,839 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Maybe, but I draw the line at the Big Boy!
		Ray Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.

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NS1200		#7 Posted : 17 January 2014 21:12:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/08/2009(UTC) Posts: 3,443		Santa Fe Super Chief by Walther's USA. Great model with real life sound. And what a great layout! It is impossible not to love Santa Fe F7 locomotives! And California Zephyr,not bad either!
		Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).

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foumaro		#8 Posted : 18 January 2014 05:34:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,420 Location: Attiki Athens Greece		Perfect,both of them,thank you.


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NS1200		#9 Posted : 18 January 2014 07:36:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/08/2009(UTC) Posts: 3,443		Originally Posted by: foumaro Perfect,both of them,thank you. Dear Panayotis, You are up early on a Saterday! Have tried to find clips of the real Super Chief and El Capitan but these seem to be very rare. There are some clips of a restored Santa Fe F7 A-A at the Galveston Railway Museum,nice! Cheers, Paul.
		Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).

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foumaro		#10 Posted : 18 January 2014 11:30:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,420 Location: Attiki Athens Greece		A Saturday morning is more perfect watching the videos you are uploading.

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NZMarklinist		#11 Posted : 18 January 2014 17:03:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,757 Location: Auckland NZ		Nice video's of nice models but..........! Seing there has been criticism of Marklin running characteristics recently, I would have to point out the jerky slow running behavior of these Walters Trains In the first Santa Fe video, when A&B units where positioning they could be seen hunting on one another, and in the California Zephyr video at the end as the train was stopping at the station you could see the jerkines in the coaches. ! Just sayin' thats all
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Alsterstreek		#12 Posted : 19 January 2014 13:41:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/11/2011(UTC) Posts: 5,669 Location: Hybrid Home		Hi, More trivia on "The Super Chief – The Train of the Stars" in this illustrated entertaining reader: http://www.newyorksocial...y.com/node/1903281/print De groeten - Ak
		Greetz - Ak My current "layout": https://www.marklin-user...aigne-Project#post592818

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NS1200		#13 Posted : 19 January 2014 13:54:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 10/08/2009(UTC) Posts: 3,443		Originally Posted by: Alsterstreek Hi, More trivia on "The Super Chief – The Train of the Stars" in this illustrated entertaining reader: http://www.newyorksocial...y.com/node/1903281/print De groeten - Ak Thank you very much! Interesting stuff from the era of great trains in the USA! Interestingly enough,one could still travel the same way in the USA today. My wife and i are investigating a traintrip to Switzerland this summer. The travel agency also has other traintrips on offer,in Europe,Asia,and the USA. For some Euro 50.- per person you can travel by train from Chicago to Los Angeles,if you have the time. "Ride The Chief"! http://www.mrtrain.com/p...tail.asp?prod=HA021_girl Cheers, Paul.
		Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).

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