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Offline kweekalot  
#1 Posted : 29 June 2012 20:58:41(UTC)
kweekalot

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I joined this forum a couple of days ago, after reading for a while as a guest visitor.

I'm a 46 years young railroad modelist living in Holland.
As a child we had a small Trix Express modelroad at home, so I grow up with trains and the 3 rail system.
Later I started again (with my sons) with Marklin with a small railroad, nothing special, only 4 digital loco's

But now I want to change things and I'm going to build a 1950s model railroad.
A few weeks ago I started collecting and buying 1950 Marklin stuff.
And the buying is quite an adventure !

I bought a lot of 00 system 3600 tracks and turnouts.
Some sellers really asked insane lots of money for this 3600 tracks.
There is a guy on 'Marktplaats' (Dutch Ebay like website) that sells 100 pieces of 3600 track for € 825,00.
He gives a Marklin catalog for free to his buyers..., YES RIGHT !! He must be joking asking that price.

But when I looked further I found a couple of times the same amount tracks for only € 30 or € 50, with lots of original boxes !!
And some tracks where still rapt in Geman newspapers of the seventies
This track type is between 60 and 65 years old but it is so amazing that some of the track pieces look brand new and has never been in use or laid hands on.

Man, I really love the look of the 3600 tracks with the solid middle rail.
Looks so much better than the plastic C stuff.

I wanted older "vorkrieg gleise" (pre war) 3600 track with 16 sleepers in stat of 24, but could not buy it anywhere, maybe 10 or 20 pieces but not enough to build a proper railroad,

Also starting collecting 1950s and 1960s books of Faller and Marklin and so on.
I also love the old Faller, Kibri and Vollmer scenery.
This week I also bought some rare Faller in Belgium, I'm wating on the box and cann't hardly sleep.
And I bought this week LOCO 3051(1) that was build between 1965-1967.
The Loc looks almost brand new and runs perfectly.
I wanted this Dutch beauty loco for a long time and the box arrived today.

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Offline Jeremy Palmer  
#2 Posted : 29 June 2012 22:19:58(UTC)
Jeremy Palmer

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Hi and welcome Kweekalot,

Great story and looking forward to many more installments and photos.

Jeremy.
Jeremy.

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2). The early bird may get the worm, but it's the second rat that gets the cheese.
Offline Chris6382chris  
#3 Posted : 30 June 2012 01:53:19(UTC)
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welcome to the forum.

Chris
Offline river6109  
#4 Posted : 30 June 2012 03:32:49(UTC)
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Welcome to the forum, well it looks like we can add another analog enthusiast to the list.

the secret service in Scotland myst be busy getting new recruits on line.

You may can't follow my wisdom but there seems to be many new members who love analog and the period before or around the 1950's.

You may also already have found out, our Baron von Third Rail (Ian) loves the stuff as well and so does his associate Mehmet in Greece and many others.

My next question could be out of line but will you be interested in buying Roco Dutch locos (3rail or AC)

regards.,

John

The digital master Chef
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Offline Ian555  
#5 Posted : 30 June 2012 06:23:27(UTC)
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Hi kweekalot,

Welcome to the forum. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline steventrain  
#6 Posted : 30 June 2012 06:30:13(UTC)
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Hi and welcome to the forum, kweekalot.
Largest Marklinist Layout with Centrail station 2/Mobile station 2/60174 boosters/C-Tracks/K-Tracks/M-tracks/Favorites class BR01, BR23, BR50, E103, E120/Insider Club membership since 2004.
Offline RayF  
#7 Posted : 30 June 2012 08:26:12(UTC)
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Welcome to the forum.

"In our house there are many temples" (with apologies to the original), so your area of interest will no doubt be shared by many on this forum.

I must say I really like your 3051!
Ray

Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
Offline kweekalot  
#8 Posted : 30 June 2012 08:29:29(UTC)
kweekalot

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Thanks a lot for the welcome words !
It makes me feel at home, and it is nice to know that I'm between 1950s enthusiasts and analog AC friends.

I couldn't not sleep tonight.
Yesterday I bought a 1950s Faller item that was on my special wish list for more than 40 years.
In 1966-1970 my father wanted this Faller item to, but he hadn't got the money for it.

I had given up hope that I ever find it. There was a period in my life (when I was not married) that I was prepared to pay € 1000 for it.
But the last few years the item was never on the market, twice it was, but than I was to late.

Yesterday I found it on a Begium website for € 35, with a lot of damage and broken parts,
It was there for 10 months for sale and had only 4 vieuwers because it has not got the right tags, so nobody knows it was there.
It could not be found on Google and so on. The site didn't mension the Faller item number or even the word Faller, only the name of the building.
I saw the ad looking for 1950s locos.
When I saw that building for sale, I get a big 2 cm thick layer of pimples on my arms and get tears in my eyes.

So, now I'm really afraid that the box get shipping damage or get stolen or lost or something like that,when it send to my home from Belgium.

I cannot sleep.....40 years waiting is coming to a sort of final climax.
When I received this mysterious item (I hope next Wednesday) I make a special restoration project of it here in the collectors corner.
Is that OK?

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Offline Ian555  
#9 Posted : 30 June 2012 09:40:11(UTC)
Ian555

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Hi kweekalot,

Sounds good to me. ThumpUp

Show us some photo's before you start the project.

Ian.



Offline LMS800  
#10 Posted : 30 June 2012 10:13:27(UTC)
LMS800

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Hello Kweekalot,
welcome in this forum from your neighbourhood !
You wrote
Quote:
I bought a lot of 00 system 3600 tracks and turnouts.
,
the tracks 3600 with 24 sleepers do not belong to the 00-System, they are from H0-System !BigGrin
what kind of turnouts do you have - single or double solenoid switches ? (Is this correct English? In German: einpolige oder zweipolige Weichen).
My advice - take the double ones, they work better and are more reliable!!
In case you will change your mind for 3600-tracks with 16 sleepers, I have more than 200 to give away.
Regards
Wolf
Offline Ian555  
#11 Posted : 30 June 2012 10:25:00(UTC)
Ian555

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Hi Wolf,

I'd be interested in buying some 3600, 16 sleeper tracks from you.

Ian.

Offline kweekalot  
#12 Posted : 30 June 2012 10:42:28(UTC)
kweekalot

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Originally Posted by: LMS800 Go to Quoted Post
Hello Kweekalot,
welcome in this forum from your neighbourhood !
You wrote
Quote:
I bought a lot of 00 system 3600 tracks and turnouts.
,
the tracks 3600 with 24 sleepers do not belong to the 00-System, they are from H0-System !BigGrin
what kind of turnouts do you have - single or double solenoid switches ? (Is this correct English? In German: einpolige oder zweipolige Weichen).
My advice - take the double ones, they work better and are more reliable!!
In case you will change your mind for 3600-tracks with 16 sleepers, I have more than 200 to give away.
Regards
Wolf


Dear Wolf,
Your post of the rebuild of the 1939 Leipzig anlage was the trigger for me to join this forum!
It is a honer to see you now in my own topic.

About the 3600 turnouts, I collected about 15 of them, I take a look to the switches...

And Yes, I indeed love and prefer the 16 sleeper type.
If you can help me with them, that would be really great !!
Offline kweekalot  
#13 Posted : 30 June 2012 10:49:44(UTC)
kweekalot

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Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
My next question could be out of line but will you be interested in buying Roco Dutch locos (3rail or AC)

regards.,

John

The digital master Chef


I'm sorry John, I'm not a real big Roco enthusiast.
It is 1950s and 1960s Marklin for me.

Laugh

Offline Bigdaddynz  
#14 Posted : 30 June 2012 11:10:37(UTC)
Bigdaddynz

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Hi Kweekalot, welcome to the forum!


I think this is going to be a good thread to read! Good luck with your Faller kit, it is nice when you can get something you've wanted for some time.
Offline Yumgui  
#15 Posted : 30 June 2012 22:12:09(UTC)
Yumgui

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Welcome to the forum kweekalot ^^ !

Like you, I have succumbed to the 3600/3700 16 tie version of track ... very nice stuff !

And also the 3800/3900 large radius series, though not solid 3rd rail ... have you seen these ?

Love the NL loco 3051, have a look also here at the 3055 :

To be continued ...

Y Laugh

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Offline kweekalot  
#16 Posted : 01 July 2012 16:17:35(UTC)
kweekalot

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Nice Loco Yumgui !

I'm not feeling well !!

Crying

I discovered that the rare Faller item I bought in Belgium, maybe isn't that rare as I thought it was.
Today I saw two times the same building for sale !!!!!!!!
And in a ten fold better condition, then the badly damaged Belgium one, that is being shipped to my home at this moment.
Try to buy them too.

Offline drstapes  
#17 Posted : 01 July 2012 21:32:52(UTC)
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hi,
Welcome to the forum. analogue is always the best. Back to the future!
Regards

Geoff (UK)

marklin HO from the 50's and 60's
Offline cookee_nz  
#18 Posted : 02 July 2012 10:08:40(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kweekalot Go to Quoted Post
Nice Loco Yumgui !

I'm not feeling well !!

Crying

I discovered that the rare Faller item I bought in Belgium, maybe isn't that rare as I thought it was.
Today I saw two times the same building for sale !!!!!!!!
And in a ten fold better condition, then the badly damaged Belgium one, that is being shipped to my home at this moment.
Try to buy them too.



Hi kweek... welcome to the forum

There are many here with experience in a wide range of brands, models etc, including Faller (one of my favourites also) ThumpUp

Perhaps if you can share with us the model of the Faller item we can assist?? I'm sure we are all curious in this mysterious item that has held your heart all these years? Wub Wub

Regards from New Zealand

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Offline Soest  
#19 Posted : 03 July 2012 04:08:59(UTC)
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I share your enthousiasm for the 3600 series M track. I use this vintage track on a regular basis with more modern M track and experience very few problems with interchangability. The early post war 3600 track has a copper glow about it which I find attractive. It is truly impressive when one can use 60 year old track with C track adaptors. I also have some OO 3600 including two turn outs. The OO track looks live new. Have fun.
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Offline LMS800  
#20 Posted : 03 July 2012 17:49:39(UTC)
LMS800

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Originally Posted by: Soest Go to Quoted Post
I share your enthousiasm for the 3600 series M track. I use this vintage track on a regular basis with more modern M track and experience very few problems with interchangability. The early post war 3600 track has a copper glow about it which I find attractive. It is truly impressive when one can use 60 year old track with C track adaptors. I also have some OO 3600 including two turn outs. The OO track looks live new. Have fun.


Hi Soest,
I quote from your post
The early post war 3600 track has a copper glow about it which I find attractive.

I don't see "a copper glow" with early post war tracks - but with pre-war tracks.
I will attach pics of post war tracks with 16 sleepers. Due to lack of material and colour we know quite a variaty of post war (16 sleeper) tracks.
Märklin changed in 1950 the gauge nomination 00 in H0 .
The 3600-tracks with 24 sleepers, production started in 1947, could therefor be called 00 or H0 tracks.
This is just for clarification.
Regards Wolf

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Offline kweekalot  
#21 Posted : 03 July 2012 18:10:54(UTC)
kweekalot

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Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Go to Quoted Post

There are many here with experience in a wide range of brands, models etc, including Faller (one of my favourites also) ThumpUp

Perhaps if you can share with us the model of the Faller item we can assist?? I'm sure we are all curious in this mysterious item that has held your heart all these years? Wub Wub

Regards from New Zealand

Cookee


I did a (classic) Model kit review in the Model Kit Review section here:

http://www.marklin-users...lick--platform---H0.aspx

The mysterious item is the 1950s Faller Bahnhof Schonblick B-103 (and platform B-115).

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Offline Yumgui  
#22 Posted : 03 July 2012 20:58:15(UTC)
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Great info Wolf, as usual ^^ !

Also kweekalot, that Faller looks very much like the Märklin 418 station ...

Y ThumpUp
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Offline Soest  
#23 Posted : 11 July 2012 03:48:14(UTC)
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Hello Wolf,

I find this copper glow with the 24 sleeper track that has quite a dark (or perhaps, dirty) coloured ballast - perhaps a trick of the light or my old eyes. Thank you very much for the pictures of the post war 16 sleeper track. I have a small amount of the 16 sleeper track which I believe, from the pictures you have posted elsewhere, is 1939-45 vintage. It is very helpful to see the colour of the underside in determining this.

Regards,

Mike
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Their wives insist they are insane
But their dreams they won't let down the drain
'Cause there ain't no thing so hard to lose as those disappearing railway blues.
Offline john black  
#24 Posted : 15 July 2012 10:55:35(UTC)
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Hi Marco - sorry for being late but just returned from a vacation.
So welcome home to the bunch, have fun & enjoy !!! LaughThumpUp
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Offline kweekalot  
#25 Posted : 17 July 2012 20:31:09(UTC)
kweekalot

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Hi John,

Thanks a lot !!

Marco
Offline kumarvartak  
#26 Posted : 20 July 2012 10:13:09(UTC)
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Its great to have another 1960 fan of Marklin. I am from India and am in touch with Wolf the best source for guidance and advice for Marklin layouts tracks etc of tahat period any suggestions from you and other members
is welcome as I am planning to build a swiss/german layout of the period 1960/65
Good luck to you
Kumar Pune India
Offline kumarvartak  
#27 Posted : 17 August 2012 16:02:15(UTC)
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Any New acquisitions of the 3600 track and also , New Locos and rolling stock of the 1950 period.
I too have some and would like to hear m0re from you.
Good Luck,
Kumar,
Pune India
Offline smurfillo  
#28 Posted : 26 August 2012 21:21:19(UTC)
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My new solid middle rail layout .

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Offline smurfillo  
#29 Posted : 05 October 2012 22:39:09(UTC)
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My new solid middle rail layout .

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Offline Ian555  
#30 Posted : 06 October 2012 08:30:15(UTC)
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Hi smurfillo,

Enjoyed watching your video. ThumpUp

Ian.

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