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Brennerbahn [update April 11th of May 2013 - LUX track cleaning] - Rinus
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#301 Posted : 04 December 2012 19:39:15(UTC)
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Excellent gigantic layout.Smile
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#302 Posted : 06 December 2012 16:27:16(UTC)
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Rinus,

What type of solenoids are you using, I've noticed you've mentioned Märklin, before you add any more I would test them before you connect them.

I thought this was a thing of the past, when we first operated the layout at a show I've blwon several and I couldn't make out why until I've inspected them.
The soldering was the culprit by soldering over 2 contacts withother words, when the solenoid shifts to one side it lifts up the tungue and cuts off the power but with mine, the power cut never happened.

John
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#303 Posted : 06 December 2012 18:02:42(UTC)
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Nice progress on the lay-out. Very impressive.
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#304 Posted : 06 December 2012 20:26:45(UTC)
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Rinus,

What type of solenoids are you using, I've noticed you've mentioned Märklin, before you add any more I would test them before you connect them.

I thought this was a thing of the past, when we first operated the layout at a show I've blwon several and I couldn't make out why until I've inspected them.
The soldering was the culprit by soldering over 2 contacts withother words, when the solenoid shifts to one side it lifts up the tungue and cuts off the power but with mine, the power cut never happened.

John


The standard Märklin ones 7549, allthough some are quite old. I operate them with Viessmann 5212 decoders. A viessmann powermodule is fitted between the decoders and the transformer.

I think I have the same problem with the one mentioned above. With the result that the plastics melts above the copper wire.

I'll use servo's for the top level.

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#305 Posted : 09 December 2012 12:05:44(UTC)
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Driving time!

A double traction Rh 1012 (Marklin) with some ACME coaches and a double traction EU43 also with some ACME coaches.

Sorry for the dark pictures. Its a bit rainy outside...

Enjoy!



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#306 Posted : 09 December 2012 13:34:06(UTC)
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Rinus, when you go to the video editor you can enhance the video and one option is to lighten up the video.

I like the double traction

regards.,

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#307 Posted : 09 December 2012 15:28:52(UTC)
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Enjoyed watching the video's. ThumpUp

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#308 Posted : 23 December 2012 12:57:45(UTC)
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Hi my friends!

The catenary arrived. I ordered the all metal profi catenary system from Sommerfeldt. http://www.sommerfeldt.de/data/...erfeldt-katalog-2009.pdf. They come in blank metal, so they do need to be painted first. I must say they surpassed my expectations. they really look terrific. Love .





Also I spotted an offer on Lippe, two Sdkmms:





And of course our cat did some inspections:

Testing the landscape...


Yup signals look fine too ...


Plaster seems dry as well ...


Smooth running ...


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#309 Posted : 23 December 2012 13:07:01(UTC)
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look great, I like your cat.ThumpUp
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#310 Posted : 23 December 2012 13:49:11(UTC)
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Hi Rinus,

Catenary looks very promising... if your chief inspector decides so Scared Smile

Merry ChristmasBigGrin

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#311 Posted : 23 December 2012 14:33:14(UTC)
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Hi Rinus,

Great progress. ThumpUp

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#312 Posted : 23 December 2012 14:33:53(UTC)
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Hi Rinus! Layout's coming along quite nicely. Handsome kitty! My Black Jack seems many times to take the same route over the railroad. It's amazing how he crosses the catenary and cross spans without hardly ever touching them. His brother Izzy hardly ever visits the layout. Black Jack always heads for the high ground and sits on the
Autobahn on the mountain. (Avatar Photo). Have a great Chirstmas and New Year. Peter
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#313 Posted : 23 December 2012 15:33:10(UTC)
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Hi Rinus,

Looks great!

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#314 Posted : 24 December 2012 07:56:16(UTC)
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Good to have independent inspectors who can do tests & checkups...BigGrin
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#315 Posted : 24 December 2012 08:02:03(UTC)
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Did the cat said something too?
Miaowww...!

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#316 Posted : 24 December 2012 08:30:10(UTC)
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Hey Rinus!

Very nice ThumpUp ThumpUp Keep it up!

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#317 Posted : 26 December 2012 22:58:42(UTC)
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Thanks for the replies all!

Train traffic came to an stop, while our cat took a nap on the track. I wonder if the current doesn't bother cats?



However I also received a birthdaypresent which I think is worthwhile showing!







It does service on the Brennerbahn. Usually in tandem, so there is a possibility to buy another one Drool !





I´ll post a review in the review section when I´ve tested it.

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#318 Posted : 16 January 2013 21:17:19(UTC)
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Hi all,

Making progress with the catenary. All the masts have been placed. I still need to install the wire. However I'm gonna airbrush it first. I failed with painting it. The wire is very thing and painting would not bring me a nice result. The wire then appears much thicker. For that I want a compressor.


















Unfortunately my Intellibox IR seems to have died. See also my post in the digital section. Now thinking of buying a new Intellibox II, which is quite expensive...Crying

especially since the LS Model order finally arrived after 7 months. Here they are! A 2 set of sleeper coaches



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#319 Posted : 16 January 2013 21:37:56(UTC)
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Excellent, Rinus.
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#320 Posted : 16 January 2013 21:55:48(UTC)
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Great work, Rinus! Photos show your progress well. You see, you have to do good work while the
inspector is watching. LOL


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#321 Posted : 17 January 2013 06:54:13(UTC)
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Hi Rinus,

Very nice work, thanks for the update photo's. ThumpUp

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#322 Posted : 18 January 2013 07:21:24(UTC)
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Hi Rinus,

The catenary looks very nice. Really a great job !
Congratulations.

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#323 Posted : 18 January 2013 08:40:00(UTC)
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Nice work Rinus.

Looking god. ThumpUp

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#324 Posted : 18 January 2013 21:30:21(UTC)
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Hi all,

Making progress with the catenary. All the masts have been placed. I still need to install the wire. However I'm gonna airbrush it first. I failed with painting it. The wire is very thing and painting would not bring me a nice result. The wire then appears much thicker. For that I want a compressor.

[IMG ---Great photos!---IMG]

....


Thanks so much for posting these photos Rinus,

It very exciting for me to see your Sommerfeldt catenary up... it looks very well done!

Do you have any tips on getting things level (upright) and under the correct functional tension?
Will you be running your trains from powered lines.... ?

Also wondering what colour you want to airbrush the wires?
Or are you dispensing of that idea?

Today and yesterday was the first time I had a really good look at your thread here on the forum.
I read it with pleasure. Please keep us up to date.

Thanks again,
Mark


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#325 Posted : 28 January 2013 20:22:03(UTC)
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Hello Rinus ThumpUp

Excellent catenary work, this is really inspiring for me that i plan catenary with sommerfeldt myself BigGrin BigGrin Go on with pictures ! Keep up the good work Cool

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#326 Posted : 30 January 2013 18:01:22(UTC)
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Hehe no tulips in our garden, I prefer trees. Lots of squirrels though!

Great video from Brenner to Innsbruck, just to give you an impression of the line!
If you do not have the patience or time... Steinach am Brenner begins at +/- 13:00 min. The St Joduk curve is before that.

Hope you enjoy!


Hello Rinus,

Thoroughly enjoyed reading through the rest of your posts...
Love how you managed to make the move to your new house with the set in modules.
Wisely done. Great to have such a large space for the layout! (5mx5M)

As for the above video clip, my wife and I sat at the kitchen table with a coffee,
the kids in bed, and watched most of it.
Felt like we were in Austria traveling...
seeing the catenary, the tunnels and the countryside through the one view was well worth it.

BTW - Would love to see anything like this throughout Germany or in Italy.
Sometimes searching Youtube in German is a challenge for me.

Reminds me as well that one day I will have to organize and post my still photos from train trips through Italy.

Thanks so much again for taking the time to post your layout work and development.

Tot Ziens,
Mark
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#327 Posted : 30 January 2013 19:00:45(UTC)
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Hi Mark!

Thank you very much! I visited the Brennerbahn this Chrismass. Awesome to see the double traction trains at the front with one extra loco pushing at the back attacking the steep ramps. These are some brute powers I can tell you.


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#328 Posted : 30 January 2013 22:07:14(UTC)
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Hi Rinus, that was one excellent video, just super! I have subscribed to the maker.
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#329 Posted : 31 January 2013 07:07:38(UTC)
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#330 Posted : 17 March 2013 08:44:59(UTC)
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Hi all!

Sorry I haven't had time to do some posting for a while. To make this up, I'll show some pictures of some double traction fun.

Rh 1044


BR185




EU43


Rh 1012


Rh 1020


Enjoy!

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#331 Posted : 17 March 2013 08:55:23(UTC)
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All of course closely overseen by my master inspector!



with the obligatory rest ...



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#332 Posted : 17 March 2013 10:06:17(UTC)
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Hi Rinus,

It's always a pleasure to see updates on your layout...

Very nice double traction sets !ThumpUp

And so nice chief inspector !Smile

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#333 Posted : 17 March 2013 10:26:29(UTC)
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Hi Rinus, the layout is looking really great! I love that prototypical catenary. It's funny how work

is done better when the inspector is on duty. Laugh PeterThumpUp Smile
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#334 Posted : 17 March 2013 10:47:37(UTC)
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Hi Rinus,

Thanks for the photo's. ThumpUp

Only the one Inspector....

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#335 Posted : 17 March 2013 13:55:06(UTC)
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continued today with the tensioning of the catenary...

Fastening on one end in the tunnel with metal treadwire [improvise mode on] BigGrin BigGrin ...





Tunnel exit



Functional tensioning device working with a spring.





Love the sommerfeld catenary system. Its very strong, all metal and a joy to work with. I recommend it to everyone.

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#336 Posted : 24 March 2013 13:22:52(UTC)
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Hi all,

Made some good progress on the cantenary today. Only the two branch lines in the station remain to be done. Ive tensioned up the two mainlines. also the entracte and exits are in place. i did some improvising again with metal wire. Works excelent.


Rh 1042 testing the catenary zig-zag








Ankor & smooth entrance/exit for panto




Some other work


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#337 Posted : 31 March 2013 10:27:45(UTC)
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Catenary looks great, Rinus. Your main line looks so Profi too. PeterThumpUp Smile
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#338 Posted : 01 April 2013 14:13:14(UTC)
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Jägerndorfer Rh 1822 passing through Steinach am Brenner with Märklin coal train.


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#339 Posted : 01 April 2013 15:14:21(UTC)
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And another one figuring a double traction BR185.5 from Locomotion ...




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#340 Posted : 01 April 2013 15:16:09(UTC)
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Most enjoyable!!! Make some more videos soon, please! ThumpUp

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#341 Posted : 27 April 2013 19:05:40(UTC)
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Hi all,

No good news from the lay-out.

My brandnew (well from January this year..) Intellibox 2 broke down! Crying Crying Crying

It's fully blocked ...





I read some German formums and read that this will probably mean a long repair...

I've contacted the agent and will send it for repairs next week. What a pitty.

Guess I'll switch to completing the catenary and focussing on the scenery for the next months.

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#342 Posted : 27 April 2013 21:15:10(UTC)
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Sorry to hear of your problem, Rinus. Do you know if this is a common thing with the Intellibox?

Good luck, PeterCrying
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#343 Posted : 28 April 2013 00:19:07(UTC)
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Not good news about the IB2,Rinus.Since the unit is only a couple of months old should it be completely replaced with another new unit.That would be the fairest way i would reckon rather than wait months for the repairs to be done.
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#344 Posted : 28 April 2013 00:49:04(UTC)
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Rinus,

What a layout it is going to be and with the overhead system, you did an excellent job, looks very professional. congratulations. I've just subscribed to your videos and will await the next one, well until the Intellibox returns, I hope soon.
I just had my Radio control from ESU returned and programmed some locos into it and for some unknown reasons my 2 V220/200 aren't responding to speed or the reversing button.

regards.,

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#345 Posted : 09 May 2013 21:46:44(UTC)
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Hi all,

The Intellibox sort of repaired itself.. BigGrin BigGrin .. thats what I call german Ingenuity !! BigGrin BigGrin

That fixed, Im planning to do mayor things this summer on te scenery. thats the part I really look forward to. Drool

Before that there are a few basics to do:
- complete catenary
- fix bugs (read prevent derailments or unwanted stops or pantograph killing objects)
- connect switches main level
- complete the lissy sensors
- programm RocRail

This weekend I set off to install the missing Lissy sensors. I use the Uhlenbroch Lissy system to identify track occupation instead of the S88. The Lissy sender under a train transmits his unique signal by infrared to the sensors. You can then programme the sensor to do specific things, in this case give track occupancey and transmit the train position to RocRail.

I bought 4 extra Lissy receivers.



Each receiver includes the receiver unit, 2 sensors and a loconet cable.



One can use 1 or 2 sensors to identifty track occupation. If you want to stop the train exactly where you need oit to stop (signal) you use 2. In this case thats what I want. we start with drilling two 3 mm holes for both sensors in the centre of the track between the sleepers.



Hole is drilled, so we can put in a sensor!



Its hardly visable.



With the sensors fitted, its time to have a look at the receiver unit.



We position it under the table and connect both sensors.



Time for the last step: plug in the loconet cable and conect it to the central station.



Next time I'll connect them to RocRail.

Hope you found this interesting. The Uhlenbrock Lissy system is not very widespread, therefore i thought it might be interesting to show this.

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#346 Posted : 10 May 2013 00:06:38(UTC)
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Rinus,

good news with your intellibox, I hate things like this when they happen because it kind of interrupts everything.


one of these days I'll start with an automatic recognition systems: track occupation but I haven't decided yet which system I'll use.

John
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#347 Posted : 11 May 2013 09:50:10(UTC)
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Some railcleaning was done today!

A Marklin Re 4/4 pulling a Lux rail polisher + vacuumcleaner + centre rail cleaner





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#348 Posted : 11 May 2013 19:48:31(UTC)
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#349 Posted : 19 May 2013 08:25:53(UTC)
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Hi guys!

Need your help on this one. I'm looking for a station building kit that is similar too the prototype 'Steinach am Brenner' in Austria.

Steinach am Brenner







Ive got three contenders sofar, but happy to hear more!


# 1 Kibri 39504 Bahnhof Langenthal



# 2 Faller 110123 Bahnhof Warthausen



# 3 Auhagen Bahnhof Plottenstein



# 4 your suggestion ...

Which looks most similar?

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#350 Posted : 21 May 2013 10:38:59(UTC)
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Maybe you should have a look at the stations 3520 and 3451 made by

Vollmer.

With kind regards
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