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Offline klarinettmeister  
#101 Posted : 19 March 2011 20:37:04(UTC)
klarinettmeister

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Originally Posted by: kariosls37 Go to Quoted Post
The rolling mill has turned out very realistic. IMHO it could still use a lot of dust/dirt. Other details hat you could add is a slab of steel being rolled. a bit of thick styrene and a bit of thinner styrene a dull grey colour and stick them on either side of the rollers. if it's a hot rolling mill you can use clear styrene painted a orange-red colour and install an orange LED below it to give the steel a warm glow.
If you buy the other steelmaking facilities as well you have the beginnings of a compact and interesting industrial layout or diorama.


Wow. Thanks for the tips! Yes, it´s gonna be a real industrial diorama. I´ll propably do it as a big module or 2. The problem is that it´s physically impossible to move to big things in the stairs. The bed was a real pain to get up (1900*900)... However just as the instructions says, a blast furnace at the side of the rolling mill, so it´s gonna be a hot rolling mill. I really like the idea with styrene and I´ll propably order some when I order some paint. My dealer told me it would take 2-4 weeks to get the furnace and I ordered it almost one week ago. BigGrin

I´ll propably order the older 48291 torpedo ladle car with the digital functions. Is that just gonna go back and forth between the furnace and the mill and is one enough?
I´m gonna use american coal trains (45800) with something suitable like the Mikado or a double PA-1.
Offline klarinettmeister  
#102 Posted : 19 March 2011 22:56:26(UTC)
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BTW, does anyone think it looks strange with the gap between the roof and the walls? It´s impossible to move the walls without destroying anything.
Offline river6109  
#103 Posted : 20 March 2011 00:24:57(UTC)
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David,

Unless I'm dreaming, your start to finish project (looks excellent) only took 3 days.
It amazes me, when you put your mind to it, the things you can achieve.ThumpUp ThumpUp

I can't give you advise on the gap.

John

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Offline MikeK  
#104 Posted : 20 March 2011 03:31:02(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post
BTW, does anyone think it looks strange with the gap between the roof and the walls? It´s impossible to move the walls without destroying anything.


Hi David,

I think it looks fine with the gap, it is an open structure, it fits the look well (not knowing anything about how it would look in the real world). Nice progress, the inside shots looks really convincing :)

^__^
Mike
A single track on the floor is better than no track at all...
Offline kariosls37  
#105 Posted : 20 March 2011 04:35:06(UTC)
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I looked up the website of our local steel mill, which has exellent flow diagrams for the whole process from iron ore(ironsand in Glenbrook's case, but that is unique to this steel mill) to steel plate or galvanised iron.
Follow this link

If you plan your layout well, you should be able to make it in sections that fit your requirements. The great thing about industrial layouts is that they have really tight curves so R1 does not look out of place. On a steel mill you have a lot of varying rolling stock as well. If you have heavy freight locos,(say, a BR 42) they can drop off iron ore and coal in a long main yard, and the steel mill shunters can pick them up from the main yard and drop them to their destinations.
Good luck,
Rick
Offline klarinettmeister  
#106 Posted : 20 March 2011 10:58:07(UTC)
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John, it was a little optimistic. I´m fast, but not that fast. BigGrin

I recieved the rolling mill this tuesday and was "finished" yesterday (saturday). That´s 4 days. But I only built for ½ hour the first day. I think it´s been a total of 20 working hours. It took ½ hour to get rid of the paint that I accidently blew on my 3000 Euro tv!! The total time includes painting and installation of the lighting. All the cables are glued to the walls.

Mike, thanks! It is an impressive building but it looks terrible if you´re not painting it. Tha rails are in light grey plastic, the rollers are all in dark grey. It was a pain painting all the 13 girder structures and it was just enough of paint to cover the visible parts.

Thanks for the link Rick! You can´t get enough of information. I have some old 5120 (r=286 mm) which are called "industrial" but I don´t think a torpedo ladle car will like them. As my layout project is on ice right now, there will be time to plan and I can´t let the rolling mill occupy my dining table. I´m thinking of a type of modules based on 360 with the sizes of 1440*720 (straight) and 720*720 (curved). That way you could fit 24530.

You could build 2*1440=2880 sections for the station area and 2*1440=2880 sections with the industry. One with the rolling mill and one with the blast furnace.

Modelrailroader constructs a layout.
I really like this type of construction. But it´s expensive buying plywood and get it in the pieces you want but it can be worth it.
Offline klarinettmeister  
#107 Posted : 25 March 2011 18:22:13(UTC)
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Yesterday I got the torpedo ladle car 48291. It´s an amazing car! Really, really nice. I bought one mainly for using when planning for the future. Therefore I´ve made some tests. I´ve done the tests with the rolling mill and I hope it will go together with the blast furnace which is in order and hopefully is on it´s way from the states.

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Test 1: Height. CHECK

The height is perfect using a sheet of foam from Woodland Scenics.


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Test 2: Rails distance. CHECK

The distance between the tracks were done with some tracks, including 24611 and 24612. It worked witout any problems, though by installation the rail connections should be removed and screwed/glued to the base of the layout for safer travelling.

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Note the lenght of the car. The pick-up shoe is on a boogie outside the building meaning I can still control the functions without installing any electrical connections. Thank you Märklin for this superb model! I´ll propably order the 48293 too and maybe the new 48294 also, but it´s disappointing it´s got no digital functions...
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Offline klarinettmeister  
#108 Posted : 08 April 2011 14:19:03(UTC)
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It´s time for a new project as the Ashland Rolling Mill is finished.

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This will take forever (or at least a few months)!! Any tips regarding colors is appreciated. It will be modeled as an almost new blast furnace with little or no rust at all.
Offline Ian555  
#109 Posted : 09 April 2011 06:08:49(UTC)
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Hi David,

Enjoy your new project.ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline klarinettmeister  
#110 Posted : 09 April 2011 15:40:24(UTC)
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Thank you Ian!
Offline klarinettmeister  
#111 Posted : 15 April 2011 20:41:03(UTC)
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This evening I´ve been busy building and painting the furnace. I´ve also painted the roof sections and the wall sections on my rolling mill that were missing paint. Because of the very ugly gray plastic everything´s been handpainted. The yellow base is ok in color. The satin-coloured pipes will be rust-painted with a set of weathering powder.

It´s quite a tall building. The height of the furnace itself is the same length as a Big Boy, 45 cm (18 inches) and add to that a platform about 5 cm. high and a base with a height of 6 cm. This will be an eye-catcher!

Here is a picture of the furnace. In the background the torpedo ladle car is waiting to be filled from the furnace...

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Offline Christoffer  
#112 Posted : 20 April 2011 08:22:38(UTC)
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Good god, thats some huge buildings david BigGrin Are you sure you have room for the tracks at the layout ? Flapper

Anyways great job with the buildings!

Offline river6109  
#113 Posted : 20 April 2011 08:52:14(UTC)
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Are my eyes going or is this furnace similar to the Tower of Pisa, it is leaning to one side.
Suppose it isn't properly secured and the picture only tells what it looks like and how high it really is.

You doing an excellent job and by the time its all weathered we wont know if its the prototype or not.ThumpUp ThumpUp

John
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Offline Ian555  
#114 Posted : 20 April 2011 09:01:02(UTC)
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Hi David,

So, size does matter, Smile

The furnace will look great as part of your layout. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline klarinettmeister  
#115 Posted : 21 April 2011 11:40:15(UTC)
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Hi all!

Last weekend I was free which made be having alot of time to do what I wanted. I´ve finished the main building and I'm building the rest of the structures.

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Here are all the beams painted. If you plan to build this, do NOT paint the beams all the way down.

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Here the furnace (leaning tower of Pisa) in place. BigGrin

I recommend NOT to follow the instructions. Start from the yellow base. All the 12 small pipes on the furnace were loosened when I was fitting the furnace through the hole in the wall. it took me 1-2 hours to glue them back!


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Here the roofs are installed. And look how tiny the 39 cm torpedo ladle car is.

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I´ve installed lighting inside.

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The holes have been drilled.

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The silos are installed and glued. Also the elevator and the smoke stack (480mm. high!!) are in place. It´s far from finished. I had to order more paint because this building really consumes paint. And the paints just arrived by the mail!!

Now the problem is... where will I put my new project when it´s finished?? The building is 561 mm. from the lowest part to the highest (top platfrom of the furnace). It will fit together with 24611/24612/24630 turnouts and by adding some foam from Woodland Scenics it will be perfect height.

I also did some tests with the 48295.

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This is on R5!!!

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And this is on 24912!!!

Happy Easter!
Offline TrainIride  
#116 Posted : 21 April 2011 11:48:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post
Hi all!

Last weekend I was free which made be having a lot of time to do what I wanted. I´ve finished the main building and I'm building the rest of the structures...


Hi,

It looks great! nice industrial workThumpUp .

The lighting you add is very realistic!

Happy Easter too..

Regards
Joël

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Offline steventrain  
#117 Posted : 21 April 2011 18:53:35(UTC)
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Excellent.ThumpUp
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Offline klarinettmeister  
#118 Posted : 21 April 2011 23:01:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TrainIride Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post
Hi all!

Last weekend I was free which made be having a lot of time to do what I wanted. I´ve finished the main building and I'm building the rest of the structures...


Hi,

It looks great! nice industrial workThumpUp .

The lighting you add is very realistic!

Happy Easter too..

Regards
Joël



Thank you Joël!

There are 2 light bulbs and 3 LED's. It will propably be problems changing the lightbulbs. But I think it´s possible reaching them if I remove the railings to glue them back on. i´ll propably buy some LED lightning for coaches that I´ll install under the base... or I simply solder some of my LEDs on a bambo stick and and glue it under...

Thank you Steven!

This evening I´ve been painting all the roofs and all silos, the base and also alot of railing. I think it´s difficult painting a detail in different colours. I seldom have the patience waiting for the other colour to finish drying.
Offline Ian555  
#119 Posted : 22 April 2011 07:15:39(UTC)
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Hi David,

Well, you're certainly not going to miss that building on the layout, looks great. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline klarinettmeister  
#120 Posted : 23 April 2011 09:20:12(UTC)
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Thank you Ian!

I don´t regret buying this building. I ordered it when they had some sale-price (169 US$). I just checked Walthers site and the price is back to 263,98 US$!!
I´m a little interested in buying the blower engine house but it´s 164,98 US$. I´ll let my blast furnace make the pig iron instead and use the money for something else... (maybe the 37629 UP F7). Also I think I´ve bought paint for the blast furnace for about 40 Euros!

Now I´m gonna continue with the piping. They are painted and dried. Have a nice weekend!

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Offline Ian555  
#121 Posted : 23 April 2011 10:23:43(UTC)
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Hi David,

Mind and keep your Easter Eggs away from that furnace, you don't want to melt them. Smile

Enjoy your Easter weekend.

Ian.



Offline klarinettmeister  
#122 Posted : 29 April 2011 17:44:02(UTC)
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Hi Ian and everybody else! It´s finished and no easter eggs were melted!

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Now there are only a few details left. I´m gonna try out my rust set and will propably paint the yellow pillars.
Offline ac jacko  
#123 Posted : 29 April 2011 23:06:49(UTC)
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Now that is a big strcuture BigGrin

Your attention on the painting david is amzing mate ThumpUp
Offline Darren W  
#124 Posted : 30 April 2011 01:56:22(UTC)
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Great looking structure that certainly will add height to the scene.ThumpUp

Darren
Offline GG1 Fan  
#125 Posted : 30 April 2011 03:00:04(UTC)
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Looks amazing.

Very realistic. I can smell the 'coke' and steel as the mighty US Locomotive rolls past the factory.
Offline Ian555  
#126 Posted : 30 April 2011 05:58:02(UTC)
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Hi David,

That sure looks great, you can build a whole section of your layout around it.

Ian.

Offline klarinettmeister  
#127 Posted : 30 April 2011 08:20:20(UTC)
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Thank you Dale!

When I opened the box it was no question that it had to be painted... The sprues were in 3 colours: Light grey, dark grey and a few parts were in yellow. Ugly and quite far away from the picture.
Offline klarinettmeister  
#128 Posted : 30 April 2011 08:22:05(UTC)
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Thank you Darren!

It´s so high taking pictures of it is very hard if you want to see the details.
Offline klarinettmeister  
#129 Posted : 30 April 2011 08:25:57(UTC)
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GG1, it´s a very good structure, but it´s not perfect. But then I haven't seen any "perfect" structure. I had to struggle alot fitting the furnace and the skip hoist.

I´m amazed the Highline actually kept together even when I put on a F7 and a PA-1. It´s just alot of parts kept together only whith glue. Let´s see what will happen when a Big Boy runs over it. BigGrin
Offline klarinettmeister  
#130 Posted : 30 April 2011 08:32:18(UTC)
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Thanks Ian!

That´s what I intend to do. BigGrin I´ve taken some measurements on the structure which will guide me when planning the layout. The base of the layout fits perfect with the normal C-track turnouts (77,4 mm). Then it´s 160 mm between the "base-track" and the Highline-track. The problem there is that it´s only 50 mm. between the tracks on the Highline... The K-track has only 57 mm with slim turnouts and that´s to much. The tolerances aren't that high. That will be a reason for K-flex.
Offline klarinettmeister  
#131 Posted : 29 June 2011 18:34:37(UTC)
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Greetings all!

As there are people who wants to come see my layout I´ve decided to do something drastic. Because the space is limited I´m gonna compromise. I´m gonna fullfill my dream of a big station which will be connected to a layout in the future and will also have 3 levels. It´s gonna be built as a L-girder-type of benchwork and I´m gonna use some old ideas. I´ll also reuse alot of wood too. Here´s the CAD-drawing I just made:

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The wheels will be added under the 4 legs. There will be a total of 3 tables which makes up a total of 4320 mm. in length. The tables will be 2 parts modular. The L-girder frame will rest on the 4 legs with some wood to steer the legs when assembling (and also you should make some adjustments in height if neccessary). Also there will be a sheet of plywood (600*1440) at the base where I'll store boxes.

My layout plan will be here soon. The ideas are in my head and the station track (3rd level) is planned and also the lowest level is almost finished.
I´ll also plan a temporary table which will enable the trains going round and round.

Well... Let´s see if this becomes a reality this time...
Offline klarinettmeister  
#132 Posted : 11 July 2011 13:30:01(UTC)
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The 3 tables are done!

It measures 3*1440 (=4320)*1300 mm. Now I only need to come up with a better plan than the existing one. Hmmm. And I´m out of ideas.

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Offline klarinettmeister  
#133 Posted : 08 January 2012 19:19:56(UTC)
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By now I think you´ve grown tired on all my projects. But I have one completely new today.

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Hmm.. I can´t get the youtube link to work?

Fixed it for you /BDNZ

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Offline Yumgui  
#134 Posted : 08 January 2012 20:14:46(UTC)
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David,

Great vid, thanks ! ThumpUp

Yum Tongue

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If your M track is rusted ... DON'T throw it out !
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Offline klarinettmeister  
#135 Posted : 08 January 2012 23:32:27(UTC)
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Thanks!

That was better. :-)
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#136 Posted : 11 June 2012 05:12:01(UTC)
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any further developments on this layout Please.
Offline klarinettmeister  
#137 Posted : 13 June 2012 09:36:18(UTC)
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any further developments on this layout Please.



Thanks for the interest of my topic.BigGrin

Unfortunately there has been none developments.
I´ve just started my work at IKEA and hopefully I´ll soon be able to move. I´ve been working alot of overtime. In the meantime I´m trying to do a improved plan with more buildings included. I´m still trying to build the iron ore boat. (Still in pieces).

I can show you a sketch I did some months ago. The end result will not be exactly similar, but contain the ideas.

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Offline river6109  
#138 Posted : 13 December 2012 12:52:51(UTC)
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David, going back to your earlier posts: solenoids, you've mentioned when soldering on the micro switches.
I found if your solder iron is to hot it does harm the mircro switch, especially with swiching tracks, the same micro switch is used. by applying to much heat the micro swich no longer has the capacity to bring the contact arm back to its original position and this has also been the case with new solenoids,

Just an observation and it may help others aswell who try to alter them.

regards.,

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Offline klarinettmeister  
#139 Posted : 13 December 2012 23:12:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
David, going back to your earlier posts: solenoids, you've mentioned when soldering on the micro switches.
I found if your solder iron is to hot it does harm the mircro switch, especially with swiching tracks, the same micro switch is used. by applying to much heat the micro swich no longer has the capacity to bring the contact arm back to its original position and this has also been the case with new solenoids,

Just an observation and it may help others aswell who try to alter them.

regards.,

John


Thanks John! That´s a good observation. I´ve had no problems with my soldered solenoids. But just as you say it depends on how hot the solder iron is. It can´t be too hot.
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#140 Posted : 04 March 2013 12:13:40(UTC)
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Hi all!

Time for a new update! As I´ve been working very hard I´ve hade no time to plan my layout until now. 5 months ago I moved to a bigger apartment which is now in the same city that I work in (at last!!). Therefore I´ve got much more space. The space I intend to use are 5200*3400 mm because of the placement of furniture. So here´s a new plan for my harbour:

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The last pic is from my temporary laid out tracks to measure the space between the Hulett Unloaders and Blast Furnace. The Blower engine house will be placed where the lamp is. There will be 3 trains pulled by 3 Mikados which will be controlled by the shuttle train function of the CS2 (which arrives this evening!!!) on the 3 tracks under the Hulett unloaders and they will travel to the Highline to the right of the blast furnace. I´ll propably let those trains only run on one Highline track and let other trains from the "New river mining Company" run on the other track. That will be much easier to plan.

The end section of the harbour will be built as a triangle becuse there´s a door which is 700mm. from the wall.
What do you think of this? Any suggestions for the rest?
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Offline Martin T  
#141 Posted : 04 March 2013 13:50:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post
Hi all!
The space I intend to use are 5200*3400 mm because of the placement of furniture. So here´s a new plan for my harbour:


Drool

Wow! That is the kind of space I would love to have!
The layout looks very promising!! ThumpUp
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Offline klarinettmeister  
#142 Posted : 04 March 2013 13:55:02(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Martin T Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: klarinettmeister Go to Quoted Post
Hi all!
The space I intend to use are 5200*3400 mm because of the placement of furniture. So here´s a new plan for my harbour:


Drool

Wow! That is the kind of space I would love to have!
The layout looks very promising!! ThumpUp


Thanks Martin! It´s the space I´ve dreamt of for several years... and it´s still not enough. I´ve got to come up with a good solution for a very long station.
I think you´ll eventually also will get the space you dream of. BigGrin
Offline Ian555  
#143 Posted : 04 March 2013 14:41:43(UTC)
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Hi David,

Great looking new plan. ThumpUp

Ian.

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Offline Danlake  
#144 Posted : 04 March 2013 18:18:49(UTC)
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Looks great David!

Being a seaman myself I love the idea of having an industrial harbour on the layout.

Brgds - Lasse
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Offline petestra  
#145 Posted : 04 March 2013 19:26:03(UTC)
petestra

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Nice track plan, David. I really like those long yards at the harbour. PeterThumpUp Smile
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Offline obxbill  
#146 Posted : 04 March 2013 23:36:46(UTC)
obxbill

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I love it!!! That is gonna be very impressive, I think! I'm currently putting together a 00 scale Great Western switching layout which will include a drinking village with a fishing problem..... at least that's what we call them here locally! LOL Keep us updated on your progress, please!

Bill

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Offline Dennis H.  
#147 Posted : 04 March 2013 23:59:06(UTC)
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Great work David, That's gonna be a monster of an industrial layout!!ThumpUp
Dennis H.

If it's old and broken, I like it
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#148 Posted : 05 March 2013 00:44:26(UTC)
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Hi David,

Very impressive layout ideas, and modelling done so far. Beginning is half done, they say.
I think the triangle idea is great. If you intend for a Marklin C track wye, it does not take up too much room, and allows for easy reversal of engines.

I have known a few people with ideas on an ore dock and steel mill, and never got as far as you.

What Mikados are you using? I have a Trix Pennsy 2-rail unit, quite a well made engine.

regards
Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep III, C Track, digital) - 2 rail (USA and Australia) - 3 rail (English Hornby Dublo) - a few old O gauge.
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Offline klarinettmeister  
#149 Posted : 05 March 2013 11:08:21(UTC)
klarinettmeister

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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
Hi David,

Very impressive layout ideas, and modelling done so far. Beginning is half done, they say.
I think the triangle idea is great. If you intend for a Marklin C track wye, it does not take up too much room, and allows for easy reversal of engines.

I have known a few people with ideas on an ore dock and steel mill, and never got as far as you.

What Mikados are you using? I have a Trix Pennsy 2-rail unit, quite a well made engine.

regards
Kimball


Thanks all!

Kimball, I use the 37970, 37973 and the 37976. Really nice models! From the beginning I wanted to include the rolling mill on the harbour scene, but it eats too much space. So I´m gonna put it somewhere else. I plan on having alot of automatic trains using the shuttle train function in my new CS2.
Offline Martin T  
#150 Posted : 05 March 2013 21:37:14(UTC)
Martin T

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"It´s the space I´ve dreamt of for several years... and it´s still not enough."

Yeah.. It's the same as everything in life. You simply cannot get enough. Only the insight of understanding this will make you happy ultimately.
Another thing too.. If the layout goes too big, the wallet quickly gets too small! LOL
Regards / Martin T
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Offline klarinettmeister  
#151 Posted : 25 March 2013 13:30:28(UTC)
klarinettmeister

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Hi all!

It´s not easy having the time you need to plan the layout when you work alot and I´ve not finished moving Everything from my apartment. Today I´ve got some tima to spare and I´ve come up with a definitve version of the plan. I´ve also included all the Contact Points. It´s gonna be a Little bit complicated. There will be 3 coal trains (37970, 37973 and 37976) from the tracks closest the water and they are gonna run on the same tracks using the shuttle train function. Therefore I´m gonna use 2 7244 on Contact Points 11 and 7 and be activated by using the route function of the CS2 thereby fooling the S88. Pretty complicated but I Think it will work. I´ve got lots of problems using RocRail so I plan on only using the 60215.

I also intend to build the framwork mostly in plywood as open framwork in 4 different modules for easier seperating them if I move.

Also a new improvement are all the switches. The single track will be the one that connects to the rest of the layout. Now I "only" have to find a good way to use the Rolling mill, the Bonn station and the Faller military Buildings... and also find some good way to use all 4 Big Boys... and maybe some hidden shadowstations.

Please come with suggestions and comments. BigGrin

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Offline kbvrod  
#152 Posted : 25 March 2013 21:41:03(UTC)
kbvrod

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Hi all,
David,I would use good quality pine board or MDO for the module frames,pine will be a lot lighter if you move.MDO is very rugged and again fit and finish is very important.
Also have a system to plug each module wiring into the next easily.

Dr D
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Offline klarinettmeister  
#153 Posted : 26 March 2013 00:01:00(UTC)
klarinettmeister

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Originally Posted by: kbvrod Go to Quoted Post
Hi all,
David,I would use good quality pine board or MDO for the module frames,pine will be a lot lighter if you move.MDO is very rugged and again fit and finish is very important.
Also have a system to plug each module wiring into the next easily.

Dr D


Thanks for the tip! The sheets of pine are quite expensive here and they are only 7,5 mm thick and there are also some pattern on them. I aim for 12 mm plywood. I´ve only been looking at 2 different stores.
I can´t find MDO and haven´t heard of it Before. Maybe there´s a different name for it here in Sweden... Or maybe it´s not used very often.

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Offline Ian555  
#154 Posted : 26 March 2013 06:47:05(UTC)
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Hi David,

"It's gonna be a little bit complicated".

Sure is for me anyway.Smile

I'd stick with plywood, if you want heavy weight go 18mm. ThumpUp

Ian.

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Offline kbvrod  
#155 Posted : 26 March 2013 13:34:31(UTC)
kbvrod

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Hi David all,
all,


>Thanks for the tip! The sheets of pine are quite expensive here and they are only 7,5 mm thick and there are also some pattern on them. I aim for 12 mm plywood. I´ve only been looking at 2 different stores.<

I was thinking pine boards for the framework.Smile When you said modules and maybe one day -might- move again the lighter weight is better.The ETE module group teaching me a lesson.Scared


>I can´t find MDO and haven´t heard of it Before. Maybe there´s a different name for it here in Sweden... Or maybe it´s not used very often.<

MDO is explained here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_density_overlay_panel

Big use in the US is road/highway signs and architectural uses on houses.The reason I used it on my old home layout was I couldn't find a true flat sheets of plywood! I need that for the large Bw I was building.MDO is perfectly flat,easy to cut,...

Dr D





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