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Offline French_Fabrice  
#101 Posted : 22 April 2012 20:15:28(UTC)
French_Fabrice

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Hello all,

Most of my week of holidays was spent in wiring the 5 upper level plates.
Some of us gave me great feedback at the beginning of my project about the wiring...but the reality is it is far from perfectMellow ...Let say it's acceptable, but for the perfection you'll have to wait for me to be retiredBored.

I've tried each plate hasn't "free" wires crossing the plate boundary. For that I've used connectors you can find in PC (from 4 to 10 connections).

A few shots, as usual

Behind the scene...
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Yeah, quite a bunch of wires...
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The computer command center... Today, 12 locos (without wagons) run in automatic mode...
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The upper level with signals and light masts...
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Next step: finish the little bit of wiring, and start ballasting...

Cheers
Fabrice

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Offline petestra  
#102 Posted : 22 April 2012 21:30:19(UTC)
petestra

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Hi Fabrice, wow you're wiring is very neat. Great photos,layout is progressing nicely.Where's Lily?Woot
Isn't she helping you today?
PeterThumpUp Smile
Offline French_Fabrice  
#103 Posted : 23 April 2012 17:45:13(UTC)
French_Fabrice

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Originally Posted by: petestra Go to Quoted Post
Where's Lily?Woot
Isn't she helping you today?
PeterThumpUp Smile


She has played a bit with the various electric wire coils, and I've gently asked her to stop (with no answerConfused )
Laugh
Cheers
Fabrice
Offline steventrain  
#104 Posted : 24 April 2012 07:52:31(UTC)
steventrain

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Very good.

Lots of wiring.Scared
Largest marklinist Layout with Centrail station 2/Mobile station 2/60174 boosters/C-Tracks/K-Tracks/Favorites class BR01, BR23, BR50/Insider Club membership since 2004.
Offline GlennM  
#105 Posted : 24 April 2012 09:48:19(UTC)
GlennM

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Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
Fabrice,

great looking layout, looking at your raised section, I think it will withhold the weight of any train and to compare my supports with yours, mine is still standing and holding up after 35 years and this is with hot glue not wood glue but its always better to overdue it, than as pointed out, having problems down the track so to speak.

Your cat needs a night out or had too many late nights.

You rail connectors: I assume you connect them to a S88 detection module and the rail connectors on the this side are the ground connectors.
Lot of modelers install blocksystems, which is ok but it doesn't give you any guarantee of a free accident scenario; e.g. a train looses some carriages, in this case in the siding with 3 tracks. a train will not enter any siding track if there are any carraiges detected.
Detecting carriages or a loco is by isolating one rail and this is easely done with k-tracks, The S88 detects if there is anything on the track (AC wheels are detected).

regards.,

John


John / Anyone,

This is the first time I have come across this subject and would like to know more, do you know of any sites on line with an English explanation and wiring diagrams to make this work? Can it also be done with M and C track? How does it work, when a rogue item is found within a block section does it prevent access to that block section or does it shut the whole network down?

As I am still planning my layout it would be useful to include such electrical items at the panning stage.


Many thanks

Mr A Luddite
Offline French_Fabrice  
#106 Posted : 24 April 2012 19:00:29(UTC)
French_Fabrice

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Originally Posted by: GlennM Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
Fabrice,

great looking layout, looking at your raised section, I think it will withhold the weight of any train and to compare my supports with yours, mine is still standing and holding up after 35 years and this is with hot glue not wood glue but its always better to overdue it, than as pointed out, having problems down the track so to speak.

Your cat needs a night out or had too many late nights.

You rail connectors: I assume you connect them to a S88 detection module and the rail connectors on the this side are the ground connectors.
Lot of modelers install blocksystems, which is ok but it doesn't give you any guarantee of a free accident scenario; e.g. a train looses some carriages, in this case in the siding with 3 tracks. a train will not enter any siding track if there are any carraiges detected.
Detecting carriages or a loco is by isolating one rail and this is easely done with k-tracks, The S88 detects if there is anything on the track (AC wheels are detected).

regards.,

John


John / Anyone,

This is the first time I have come across this subject and would like to know more, do you know of any sites on line with an English explanation and wiring diagrams to make this work? Can it also be done with M and C track? How does it work, when a rogue item is found within a block section does it prevent access to that block section or does it shut the whole network down?

As I am still planning my layout it would be useful to include such electrical items at the panning stage.


Many thanks

Mr A Luddite


Hi,

A few links which can be helpful :

In the two latest, you'll find some infos on connecting S88 to contact tracks/reed contacts/switching tracks. All these tracks are (were for M tracks) available for K & C tracks.
Finally, when a rogue item still occupies a block section (let's say a wagon hasn't started with the train previously occupying this block section), the contact at the corresponding S88 input hasn't changed of status. After that, it depends on the way you handle the S88 info...If you operate through a computer connected to a CS, then you have all the possibilities available : stop all, close the faulty block only, etc...If you operate more manually, then you'll have to setup maybe more devices but I'm not fluent on the manual mode, so other members may provide you with more accurate answers.

HTH
Fabrice
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Offline GlennM  
#107 Posted : 25 April 2012 15:37:16(UTC)
GlennM

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Originally Posted by: French_Fabrice Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: GlennM Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
Fabrice,

great looking layout, looking at your raised section, I think it will withhold the weight of any train and to compare my supports with yours, mine is still standing and holding up after 35 years and this is with hot glue not wood glue but its always better to overdue it, than as pointed out, having problems down the track so to speak.

Your cat needs a night out or had too many late nights.

You rail connectors: I assume you connect them to a S88 detection module and the rail connectors on the this side are the ground connectors.
Lot of modelers install blocksystems, which is ok but it doesn't give you any guarantee of a free accident scenario; e.g. a train looses some carriages, in this case in the siding with 3 tracks. a train will not enter any siding track if there are any carraiges detected.
Detecting carriages or a loco is by isolating one rail and this is easely done with k-tracks, The S88 detects if there is anything on the track (AC wheels are detected).

regards.,

John


John / Anyone,

This is the first time I have come across this subject and would like to know more, do you know of any sites on line with an English explanation and wiring diagrams to make this work? Can it also be done with M and C track? How does it work, when a rogue item is found within a block section does it prevent access to that block section or does it shut the whole network down?

As I am still planning my layout it would be useful to include such electrical items at the panning stage.


Many thanks

Mr A Luddite


Hi,

A few links which can be helpful :

In the two latest, you'll find some infos on connecting S88 to contact tracks/reed contacts/switching tracks. All these tracks are (were for M tracks) available for K & C tracks.
Finally, when a rogue item still occupies a block section (let's say a wagon hasn't started with the train previously occupying this block section), the contact at the corresponding S88 input hasn't changed of status. After that, it depends on the way you handle the S88 info...If you operate through a computer connected to a CS, then you have all the possibilities available : stop all, close the faulty block only, etc...If you operate more manually, then you'll have to setup maybe more devices but I'm not fluent on the manual mode, so other members may provide you with more accurate answers.

HTH
Fabrice



Fabrice

That is a great response. I can now read around this subject.

Many thanks

Glenn
Offline French_Fabrice  
#108 Posted : 20 May 2012 20:44:32(UTC)
French_Fabrice

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Location: Lyon, France
Hello fans,

Progress is slow this time, but results are becoming nice.

After struggling with my defective signals, I've setup the roundhouse locomotive shed and the beginning of automatic motion with the turntable.
Very nice leds illuminating inside (sodium light color like).

A few shots:
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Closer...
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Three old ladies waiting for carrying goods or people...
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Closer...3048, 3310 and 3684...all upgraded with LokpilotV4
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Cheers
fabrice

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Offline BrandonVA  
#109 Posted : 24 May 2012 14:22:30(UTC)
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Looks great!

-Brandon
Offline Danlake  
#110 Posted : 24 May 2012 15:35:02(UTC)
Danlake

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Well done Fabrice!

Looks like to a be fun layout to run. 12 trains in auto modeThumpUp

Brgds- Lasse
Digital 8m2 layout / C (M&K) tracks / Era IV / CS2 60214 / Train Controller Gold
Offline petestra  
#111 Posted : 24 May 2012 15:54:56(UTC)
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The layout is looking super, Fabrice. Hope all the problems are solvable now. PeterThumpUp Smile
Offline NewMB  
#112 Posted : 24 May 2012 17:29:55(UTC)
NewMB

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Now that looks fantastic!!
Offline steventrain  
#113 Posted : 24 May 2012 19:06:58(UTC)
steventrain

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Look very good.ThumpUp
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Offline VinceHerman  
#114 Posted : 25 May 2012 03:58:40(UTC)
VinceHerman

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Hi Fabrice,
Your planning and neatness is incredible.
What ribbon wire did you use for the s88 wiring? That is exactly what I want to do with our layout. I was considering using network cable, but the ribbon looks so clean.
Vince
Offline Chris6382chris  
#115 Posted : 25 May 2012 04:32:24(UTC)
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Fabrice it is really looking great. Love the Locomotive Shed and Turntable.
Offline French_Fabrice  
#116 Posted : 25 May 2012 17:20:44(UTC)
French_Fabrice

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@all : many thanks for your congratulationsBigGrin

@VinceHerman: I've used this cable : http://www.electronique-...35&products_id=83561
Even if you don't read french, you may get the essential info. Try to find an electronic parts dealer close to you, and order what is fitted to your need.

I'd like to add some remarks, regarding wiring of lot of sensors.
1) Ribbon wire is expensive (in my case, 7.5 € / meter). If you have an important layout, wiring cost may increase much more than expected
2) In "classic" use of S88, it is recommended the S88 are as close as possible of the CS. This approach is the one I've used, because a) that was the only one I knew, b) my layout is not very big.
3) But...I've read, either in this forum or other forums or in some more "advanced" guides, that the 6 wire flat ribbon used to connect the S88 together and to the CS must be as short as possible, because this bus is very sensitive to noise. So, in case of very long wiring, there may be an other solution: Use the improved version of the S88, i.e. the S88-N.
http://www.opendcc.de/s88/s88_n/s88-n_e.html
Some specialized companies provide this kind of device. The one I know is LDT: Have a look there : http://www.ldt-infocente...english/home_frame_e.htm and search for S88-N devices.
The "pros" of using such devices are :
-You put a S88N close to the tracks where sensors are, i.e reduce the cable length from each sensor to the S88N input
-You link all S88N together with standard shielded ethernet cable (much cheaper that flat ribbon cable) and above all not sensitive to noise and allowing comfortable length
-The last S88N (close to the CS) use the 6-wire cable provided to connect to the CS2
-Price is in the same range as of Viessmann 5217

I personally didn't experiment such a solution, because of 2a) and 2b). But when I will plan for a larger layout, I will certainly experiment this solution.
Maybe some others members may provide you more information for this type of solution, if it fits your needs.

HTH
Fabrice
Offline jvuye  
#117 Posted : 25 May 2012 19:38:58(UTC)
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Amazing progress...Blink
Where do you find the time to work? BigGrin
I'll have to come and check this one out one of these days! Laugh
Bravo!
Cheers
Jacques Vuye aka Dr.Eisenbahn
Once a vandal, learning to be better and had great success!
Offline French_Fabrice  
#118 Posted : 25 May 2012 20:03:07(UTC)
French_Fabrice

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You know you are welcome, Jacques !Smile

Cheers
Fabrice
Offline river6109  
#119 Posted : 25 May 2012 23:33:59(UTC)
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Fabrice,

And I thought my wiring was coming from a spaghetti market.

John
http://www.youtube.com/river6109
http://www.youtube.com/6109river
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Offline Laxman  
#120 Posted : 29 May 2012 14:22:36(UTC)
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Vince

With regard to ribbon cable see this website (asapwire.com)

asapwire.com

I ordered the 25 foot 16 ribbon cable and could easily divide it into two 8 cable sections to use to hook up the M switch boxes for analog control of switches.

It does not look like they still carry the 25 foot rolls but they do have the 100 foot in various number of cables.

I think that it does make the wiring neater.



Offline French_Fabrice  
#121 Posted : 15 June 2012 22:22:30(UTC)
French_Fabrice

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Location: Lyon, France
Hello fans,

Some news of the layout...

Because of having too much problems with M light signals, I've decided to remove them. After experimenting, my choice is done with Viessmann multiplex signals (472x series) which have a very close look to M signals, complemented by Vie5229 MM/DCC decoders.

This implies some new investment Crying ... and also to rewire the upper layer with removal of all upper tracks Bored. Before starting the works, I've taken my plan to update it, and as a natural consequence Mad , I've decided to modify a bit some tracks to add playabilityBlink.

The first variation add another line in the background, totally hide the descending ramp, and modify the switches on the right side of the station.
Here is the new plan:
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But I'm also tempted to add more, with a second variation:
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That's difficult to stay reasonable ...Cool
I'm still hesitating between first and second variation...The second implies more works as the plates are already adjusted and need 3 cm more width...

Stay tuned...
Cheers
Fabrice

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Offline French_Fabrice  
#122 Posted : 06 July 2012 20:16:16(UTC)
French_Fabrice

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Hello all,

Finally, level 3 will be as shown below:
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3 of 5 "level 3" plates are now resized, and all the previous wiring of level 3 has been wiped Crying.

Some "complementary" rework is also planned:
- As previously said, all M 763xx signals are replaced with 472x Viessmann signals and 5229 decoders.
- Simplify the wiring of level 3 plates by minimizing the number of cables (idea is to propagate mainly the 4 power wires from one plate to another). To get rid of feedback wires coming close to the CS2, I've changed the technology and I'm ready to use S88N feedback devices provided by LDT. These devices are equivalent to S88/VIE5217 but each device can be connected to an other one thru shielded ethernet cable. So, no more 60 feedback cables coming to the CS2 but only 2 ethernet cables connected to a splitter (DSW88N), the latest connected to the CS2 by a (short) traditional 6 pin cable. So, all feedback has to be totally rewired (including also level 1 & 2).

I'll have some work to do during holidays Wink

Cheers
fabrice

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Offline petestra  
#123 Posted : 06 July 2012 22:05:09(UTC)
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Looks great, Fabrice. PeterThumpUp Smile
Offline Ian555  
#124 Posted : 07 July 2012 07:10:39(UTC)
Ian555

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Hi Fabrice,

Great progress on your layout. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline French_Fabrice  
#125 Posted : 07 August 2012 20:34:20(UTC)
French_Fabrice

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Hello fans,

Evolution is done. All wiring updated... and it runs perfectly !BigGrin

Here is the result...

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New synoptic from the command PC

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Much less wires

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...but more command devices

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Ribbon of LEDs added to the lower levels

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Wiring ... general overview

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Station from one side

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Switching tower

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From an other angle

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Sidings

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Fuel depot

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Ascending ramp and hidden stations

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Turntable

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Station from the other side

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Station from rear

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Final overview

Now, it's time to start tunnels and a bit of scenery...

Cheers
Fabrice

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Offline petestra  
#126 Posted : 07 August 2012 22:00:41(UTC)
petestra

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Just excellent, Fabrice. The layout will be a-lot of fun to operate as I can tell by the wiring plan.
Looking forward to your first video. PeterThumpUp Smile
Offline jvuye  
#127 Posted : 08 August 2012 05:20:00(UTC)
jvuye

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Looks fantastic and I know that when you say "Works perfectly" you're not kidding!
Bravo!
We'll have to "play trains" one of these days!
Cheers
Jacques Vuye aka Dr.Eisenbahn
Once a vandal, learning to be better and had great success!
Offline TrainIride  
#128 Posted : 08 August 2012 06:50:58(UTC)
TrainIride

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Hi Fabrice,

you've done a nice work !

Regards
Joël
Marklin HO - M track & C track - Analog mode - DC locos conversion to AC - http://www.marklin-users.net/TrainIride - my channel : http://www.youtube.com/user/2mes2mains
Offline steventrain  
#129 Posted : 08 August 2012 07:26:51(UTC)
steventrain

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Good work, Fabrice.
Largest marklinist Layout with Centrail station 2/Mobile station 2/60174 boosters/C-Tracks/K-Tracks/Favorites class BR01, BR23, BR50/Insider Club membership since 2004.
Offline Ian555  
#130 Posted : 08 August 2012 08:37:47(UTC)
Ian555

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Hi Fabrice,

Excellent work. ThumpUp

Ian.




Offline GlennM  
#131 Posted : 08 August 2012 11:09:32(UTC)
GlennM

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Fabrice,

Lots of hard work has gone into the layout so far, and it looks great.

BR

Glenn
Offline Johnvr  
#132 Posted : 08 August 2012 19:34:47(UTC)
Johnvr

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Fabrice,

Looks absolutely fantastic.
Many hours of fun ahead !!

Regards,BigGrin
John
Offline kweekalot  
#133 Posted : 08 August 2012 20:04:31(UTC)
kweekalot

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Location: Holland
Hi Fabrice,

What a super beautiful mult level big layout !!
And your cat is also great!!
I wish I had a bit more space for a slightly bigger layout than I have now...

Marco
Offline intruder  
#134 Posted : 08 August 2012 22:31:40(UTC)
intruder

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Thanks for all the nice photos of you great layout, Fabrice.

A big inspiration for me to go on with my layout.
Best regards Svein, Norway
grumpy old sod
Offline foumaro  
#135 Posted : 09 August 2012 05:20:47(UTC)
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Very nice,i like the long straight sections,you can run great train consists.
Offline French_Fabrice  
#136 Posted : 09 August 2012 06:29:05(UTC)
French_Fabrice

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Thanks to all !

Cheers
Fabrice
Offline Shintaro  
#137 Posted : 09 August 2012 07:59:46(UTC)
Shintaro

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Hi Fabrice.

Great work!! Thanks for the excellent pictures of every angle and view point.

Cheers.
Offline French_Fabrice  
#138 Posted : 14 August 2012 12:43:19(UTC)
French_Fabrice

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Hi,

Scenery is starting...Catenary, walls, painting, weathering, etc...So much to do !

A few shots of the ongoing works:
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The ramp...
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The repair shed
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The coal depot
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Water pumps
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E94 taking the ramp...

Stay tuned...
Cheers
fabrice

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Offline petestra  
#139 Posted : 14 August 2012 14:40:40(UTC)
petestra

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Very nice photos, Fabrice. The layout is lookin' good! PeterThumpUp Smile
Offline Ian555  
#140 Posted : 14 August 2012 16:13:40(UTC)
Ian555

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Hi Fabrice,

Nice work.ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline steventrain  
#141 Posted : 14 August 2012 16:32:35(UTC)
steventrain

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Looking good.
Largest marklinist Layout with Centrail station 2/Mobile station 2/60174 boosters/C-Tracks/K-Tracks/Favorites class BR01, BR23, BR50/Insider Club membership since 2004.
Offline hennabm  
#142 Posted : 14 August 2012 16:55:27(UTC)
hennabm

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Hi Fabrice

I like seeing layouts as the scenery goes in. Your work looks top classThumpUp

Mike
1957 - 1985 era
What's digital?
Offline Superlampster  
#143 Posted : 14 August 2012 20:38:36(UTC)
Superlampster

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Fabrice,

it´s looking really nice, I will/and have followed this thread for some time now, keep up the good work !

Regards Henrik
Offline RayF  
#144 Posted : 14 August 2012 21:16:27(UTC)
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Good work, Fabrice! ThumpUp
Ray

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Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
Offline PierreGILLARD  
#145 Posted : 14 August 2012 22:25:33(UTC)
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I have just reviewed this topic for the first time. You did a great job, Fabrice, even if it is not always an easy task with K-tracks. Congratulations.

Pierre.
Offline jvuye  
#146 Posted : 15 August 2012 05:46:54(UTC)
jvuye

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Mmmmmh!
It really starts to look like something!!
Good job on the catenary too...!
Cheers
Jacques Vuye aka Dr.Eisenbahn
Once a vandal, learning to be better and had great success!
Offline French_Fabrice  
#147 Posted : 15 August 2012 06:16:14(UTC)
French_Fabrice

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Cheers
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Offline NZMarklinist  
#148 Posted : 15 August 2012 07:08:14(UTC)
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I'm over awed by your wiring Fabrice. ThumpUp but for myself Scared However the layout is looking fanatstic, wish I'd discovered this thread earlier Smile

For those of you looking for a ready MRR source of multi coloured ribbon cables Brawa has them Wink lots of different colour combo varieties and cross sections for different jobs. ThumpUp
P/N; 8 core 0.14mmsq- 5m #3188 (5.87eu not incl Mwst at LS) / 50m #3189 (56.25eu not incl, only a small volume discount Glare ) Ok for S88 signals I hope, at least, as I've used it as the wiring bus for my modules
Lokshop stocks most of them Wink

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Offline Rinus  
#149 Posted : 17 August 2012 23:48:45(UTC)
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Hi fabrice,

Im impressed by your PC steering! Is it working OK?

I began programming in Rocrail recently. Any tips?

I'll try to re-use my Uhlenbrock Lissy transmitters instead of contact rail.

Good luck with the ballasting!Smile

Rinus
Offline French_Fabrice  
#150 Posted : 18 August 2012 17:40:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Rinus Go to Quoted Post
Hi fabrice,

Im impressed by your PC steering! Is it working OK?

I began programming in Rocrail recently. Any tips?

I'll try to re-use my Uhlenbrock Lissy transmitters instead of contact rail.

Good luck with the ballasting!Smile

Rinus


Hi Rinus,

The synoptics works fine ! But, what's more impressive is the automatic mode !
A useful feature is the automatic generation of routes ("Analyze" in "File" menu). After that, review all routes generated if they fit your needs (I have approx. 100 routes generated).
Each route can be tuned in terms of speed. In case you adjust route speed, you'll have to re-check to "Reduce speed" check box if you want multi-aspect signals to set "yellow" when switches are thrown.
It's really a great software !ThumpUp

Thanks for your encouragement for ballasting, but before I have to change two defective switches (bad electric contact, even after cleaning Crying ).

Cheers
Fabrice
Offline Rinus  
#151 Posted : 19 August 2012 09:01:25(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: French_Fabrice Go to Quoted Post

Hi Rinus,

The synoptics works fine ! But, what's more impressive is the automatic mode !
A useful feature is the automatic generation of routes ("Analyze" in "File" menu). After that, review all routes generated if they fit your needs (I have approx. 100 routes generated).
Each route can be tuned in terms of speed. In case you adjust route speed, you'll have to re-check to "Reduce speed" check box if you want multi-aspect signals to set "yellow" when switches are thrown.
It's really a great software !ThumpUp

Thanks for your encouragement for ballasting, but before I have to change two defective switches (bad electric contact, even after cleaning Crying ).

Cheers
Fabrice


Hi Fabrice,

That sounds very promising I'll start implementting Rocrail after I've installed al contactsensors. I'll have to finish the ballasting first.

Your picturs of your plan are very usefull to me. I was in doubt if I would go for one screen or multiple screens (one for each level). I see you've chosen one?

Rinus
Offline French_Fabrice  
#152 Posted : 19 August 2012 09:26:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Rinus Go to Quoted Post

Your picturs of your plan are very usefull to me. I was in doubt if I would go for one screen or multiple screens (one for each level). I see you've chosen one?

Rinus

In fact, I'm using 2 screens (tabs); the second one is dedicated to the turntable. My advice is not done about one or multiple tabs. One is more comfortable, but you need a large physical screen. In an other way, multiple tabs allow more logical grouping...Don't know...Still hesitating.

Cheers
Fabrice
Offline river6109  
#153 Posted : 21 August 2012 03:37:11(UTC)
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Fabrice,

excellent

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Offline Ross  
#154 Posted : 22 August 2012 22:17:19(UTC)
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Hi Fabrice,

Good to see another computer controlled layout, well done.
I use TAB's for my switchboards in TrainController as I find this fast to use and I don't have to worry about where to put the second screen.

Originally Posted by: French_Fabrice Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Rinus Go to Quoted Post

Your picturs of your plan are very usefull to me. I was in doubt if I would go for one screen or multiple screens (one for each level). I see you've chosen one?

Rinus

In fact, I'm using 2 screens (tabs); the second one is dedicated to the turntable. My advice is not done about one or multiple tabs. One is more comfortable, but you need a large physical screen. In an other way, multiple tabs allow more logical grouping...Don't know...Still hesitating.

Cheers
Fabrice


Ross
Offline French_Fabrice  
#155 Posted : 25 August 2012 21:41:20(UTC)
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Hello folks !

Some progress since last time : Catenary is done, and two platforms are ready.

1) Last week works : Catenary

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The ramp...
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The ramp again...
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The station
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Station exit
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Station entrance
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Zoom on station tracks
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Catenary overall

2) This week works : platforms (nightly views)

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Station & platforms
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Station & platforms (with flash)
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Illuminated platforms
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platforms (with flash)
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Station & sidings
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Station & sidings (with flash)

Cheers
Fabrice

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Offline petestra  
#156 Posted : 25 August 2012 23:00:35(UTC)
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Great work on a wonderful layout, Fabrice. I'm looking forward to your first film. PeterThumpUp Smile

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Offline Gregor  
#157 Posted : 26 August 2012 08:34:30(UTC)
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Great layout, lovely cat !

Gregor
Offline RayF  
#158 Posted : 26 August 2012 08:45:37(UTC)
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Excellent progress Fabrice! ThumpUp
Ray

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Offline Rinus  
#159 Posted : 27 August 2012 18:15:38(UTC)
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Great work Fabrice! do the trains run with panto up?

Rinus
Offline steventrain  
#160 Posted : 27 August 2012 18:45:28(UTC)
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Excellent.ThumpUp
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Offline French_Fabrice  
#161 Posted : 27 August 2012 20:37:21(UTC)
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Thanks to all !

@Rinus : Yes, electric locos run with the pantos up, on the blocks declared as "electrified". I prefer to run at 50% speed maximum, to avoid trouble Crying . At that speed, the rendering is correct (not too fast & not too slow) BigGrin

Cheers
Fabrice
Offline hennabm  
#162 Posted : 28 August 2012 16:53:21(UTC)
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Hi Fabrice

good workThumpUp

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Offline Danlake  
#163 Posted : 29 August 2012 15:41:55(UTC)
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Very nice FabriceThumpUp

Keep posting!

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Offline French_Fabrice  
#164 Posted : 24 September 2012 21:10:22(UTC)
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Hello fans.

One month since my last post...The tunnels and the infrastructure for the mountain have started.

Here are the pics:

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The wall going down from the mountain
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Tunnel entrance (from rear)
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The wall (from rear)
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The wall (from below)
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The challenge for next month : fill that gap with a soft hill Crying
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Twin tunnels at station exit. The extreme left track has become two way - one signal added
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Twin tunnels again
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Twin tunnels from rear
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Twin tunnels from top
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Changed straight switch to a curved one : provides longer straight sections
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At track level
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Infrastructure
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Wall infrastructure completed
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Rear tunnel entrance
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Overall

Cheers
Fabrice

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Offline TrainIride  
#165 Posted : 24 September 2012 21:27:19(UTC)
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Hi Fabrice,

Nice work with the curved tunnels ThumpUp ThumpUp .
I am impatient to see the mountains!

Regards
Joël
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Offline petestra  
#166 Posted : 24 September 2012 22:21:04(UTC)
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Your layout is really looking great, Fabrice. Thanks for sharing its progress!
PeterThumpUp Smile
Offline Ian555  
#167 Posted : 25 September 2012 11:01:00(UTC)
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Hi Fabrice,

That's great progress. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline Rinus  
#168 Posted : 30 September 2012 08:18:32(UTC)
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Hi Fabrice!

Nice looking lay-out you have there!

Great features to be seen: tunnels, catenary, lights in the hidden yard, signals ... Drool Drool Drool

I really like your tunnels. One question though. How are you gona ballast the tunnel sections now? I dont think you can reach in far enough to do the ballasting there.

Rinus
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#169 Posted : 30 September 2012 10:03:18(UTC)
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I must admit that this is the first time I've looked at your layout thread Fabrice, but I must say I'm very impressed. ThumpUp
Offline French_Fabrice  
#170 Posted : 30 September 2012 10:12:46(UTC)
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Hi to all,

Thanks for your congratulations.

@Rinus :Yes, you're right. I'm a bit ashamed not to have started ballasting Blushing. I always postpone this task, because I'm not sure to do it right (I've carefully read your post on the way you did it perfectly ThumpUp ) and now it's a bit late for tunnels. I hope I'll have the energy/feeling to do it in the near future.

I'm actually trying to feel the gap with a hill, in the right upper corner of the layout.

All the best to all
Fabrice
Offline kweekalot  
#171 Posted : 30 September 2012 10:49:44(UTC)
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Hi Fabrice,

Excellent work ! ThumpUp

Marco
Offline French_Fabrice  
#172 Posted : 01 October 2012 21:28:05(UTC)
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Hi fans...

Finally, the gap in the upper right corner is filled !

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from top
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closer
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beginning of slope...

Cheers
Fabrice

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Offline hennabm  
#173 Posted : 01 October 2012 21:47:54(UTC)
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Hi Fabrice

looking good. BigGrin

BTW what's the Faller box under the board in the last picture?

Mike
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Offline Ian555  
#174 Posted : 02 October 2012 05:16:27(UTC)
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Hi Fabrice,

Very nice work. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline French_Fabrice  
#175 Posted : 02 October 2012 06:00:32(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: hennabm Go to Quoted Post
Hi Fabrice

looking good. BigGrin

BTW what's the Faller box under the board in the last picture?

Mike


It's the Trossingen Station, which is on the layout. Ref 110114.

Cheers
fabrice
Offline Rinus  
#176 Posted : 02 October 2012 09:53:29(UTC)
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Hi Fabrice!,

What is that white stuff around the meshwire? Plaster?

Rinus
Offline French_Fabrice  
#177 Posted : 02 October 2012 15:03:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Rinus Go to Quoted Post
Hi Fabrice!,

What is that white stuff around the meshwire? Plaster?

Rinus


Hi Rinus,
No, it's not plaster. I've used glue pads (UHU Patafix).

Cheers
Fabrice
Offline GlennM  
#178 Posted : 03 October 2012 13:26:58(UTC)
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Fabrice,

The layout is looking great. I hope you will us posted with your continuing progress and more pics.

Can I ask what is the angle of the two access tracks coming up from the hidden station level?

Thanks

Best Regards

Glenn
Offline petestra  
#179 Posted : 03 October 2012 15:01:55(UTC)
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Great work and photos, Fabrice.

PeterThumpUp Smile
Offline French_Fabrice  
#180 Posted : 03 October 2012 19:32:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GlennM Go to Quoted Post

Fabrice,

The layout is looking great. I hope you will us posted with your continuing progress and more pics.

Can I ask what is the angle of the two access tracks coming up from the hidden station level?

Thanks

Best Regards

Glenn


Hi Glenn,

There are two ramps connected to the hidden level:

-The front ramp (the ascending one) has a slope rate of 3.8%
-The rear ramp (the descending one I'm actually covering with meshwire) has (should have) the same slope rate, between 3.5 and 4%

Due to room restrictions, I didn't find a way to have a lower slope rate. Maybe with helix, but it's for my next layout (which I'm already thinking about from time to time but before, I have 1) to finish the current layout and 2) to fully reorganize my room...that's a story for the future RollEyes )

Cheers
fabrice
Offline GlennM  
#181 Posted : 04 October 2012 10:44:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: French_Fabrice Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: GlennM Go to Quoted Post

Fabrice,

The layout is looking great. I hope you will us posted with your continuing progress and more pics.

Can I ask what is the angle of the two access tracks coming up from the hidden station level?

Thanks

Best Regards

Glenn


Hi Glenn,

There are two ramps connected to the hidden level:

-The front ramp (the ascending one) has a slope rate of 3.8%
-The rear ramp (the descending one I'm actually covering with meshwire) has (should have) the same slope rate, between 3.5 and 4%

Due to room restrictions, I didn't find a way to have a lower slope rate. Maybe with helix, but it's for my next layout (which I'm already thinking about from time to time but before, I have 1) to finish the current layout and 2) to fully reorganize my room...that's a story for the future RollEyes )

Cheers
fabrice


Thanks for that information Fabrice. I can assume that you have not encountered any problems with locos ascending at that slope level as we can see form the pics of locos travelling up. Mmmmm gives me food for thought..............

Looking forward to following your progress, many thanks.

Best Regards

Glenn

Offline utkan  
#182 Posted : 04 October 2012 10:51:54(UTC)
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I must admit that I am looking forward to seeing the trains running on this excellent layout.....Drool Drool
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The world is analog!
Offline French_Fabrice  
#183 Posted : 04 October 2012 11:20:24(UTC)
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Thank you Mehmet !

...But I'm not sure to reach to level of achievement Blushing you have on your wonderful layout ThumpUp

Cheers
Fabrice
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Offline utkan  
#184 Posted : 04 October 2012 12:57:18(UTC)
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Hi Fabrice,

When I looked at the work you have done so far, I haven't got a single doubt that your lay-out will work perfectly. Please keep posting the marvellous work of yours.....ThumpUp ThumpUp ThumpUp

Cheers,

mehmet
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Offline French_Fabrice  
#185 Posted : 07 October 2012 17:19:52(UTC)
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Hello folks !

Meshwire is done !BigGrin Next step is plaster Crying

A few pics, as usual...

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First frames...
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Meshwire with pedestrian way...
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pedestrian way with the remaining part...
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Again
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Meshwire is done !
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Rear Tunnel. The flat highest part of the mountain will have a ruin on it...
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View from side
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With the wall
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Summary of a week work...
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Overall

Cheers
Fabrice

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Offline Rinus  
#186 Posted : 07 October 2012 20:08:16(UTC)
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Hi Fabrice,

This is looking good. And what a pace you have. You seem to do in a week, what I do in a month Blushing

Are all the signals working? Must be a great sight.

Are you gona use plaster cloth first before apply the main layer? Otherwise It will fall straight though the meshwire.

Regards,

Rinus
Offline petestra  
#187 Posted : 07 October 2012 21:35:30(UTC)
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Super photos, Fabrice. I like the fact that the upper most level is quite a difference from the lowest. It
allows for a-lot more room to work in. That was a great idea!

PeterThumpUp ThumpUp ThumpUp
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Offline French_Fabrice  
#188 Posted : 08 October 2012 11:13:31(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Rinus Go to Quoted Post
Hi Fabrice,

This is looking good. And what a pace you have. You seem to do in a week, what I do in a month Blushing

Are all the signals working? Must be a great sight.

Are you gona use plaster cloth first before apply the main layer? Otherwise It will fall straight though the meshwire.

Regards,

Rinus

Hi Rinus

Your layout is very big compared to mine. So I think it's normal you may take more time than me to setup a feature.
But the only thing that matters is the pleasure we found in our hobby.

All signals are operating fine and are driven thru the software. But no power cut is associated with the signals, as it is a software driven layout. It's only for scenery/landscaping.

I think I will use plaster cloth (I have 2 Faller ones at hand). But before, I'll make a test on the workbench 'cause I've never done it before...

Cheers
fabrice

Offline French_Fabrice  
#189 Posted : 18 October 2012 21:27:52(UTC)
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Hello folks !

That's the first time I go so far...
That's not so easy, especially when you don't have a good artistic feeling...

But it's not a true disaster !

Here are the pics:
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1st plaster clothes...

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Preparing rocks...

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...again

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Painting with various brown the background (I think I'll keep the darker one)

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Rendering the cleef and rocks...

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Again

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From an other angle (mmmh... I'll have to repaint the light brown area to dark brown)

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Final for today

Cheers
Fabrice

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Offline petestra  
#190 Posted : 18 October 2012 22:19:45(UTC)
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Hi Fabrice. The moutain looks great! How did you put the white streaks into the gray rocks?
Tres bon! PeterThumpUp ThumpUp ThumpUp Smile
Offline French_Fabrice  
#191 Posted : 19 October 2012 05:56:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: petestra Go to Quoted Post
Hi Fabrice. The moutain looks great! How did you put the white streaks into the gray rocks?
Tres bon! PeterThumpUp ThumpUp ThumpUp Smile


Hi Peter !

...with a toothpickWink

Cheers
Fabrice
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Offline Ian555  
#192 Posted : 19 October 2012 08:37:36(UTC)
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Hi Fabrice,

Great progress on the layout. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline French_Fabrice  
#193 Posted : 20 October 2012 17:28:16(UTC)
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Hello fans,

4 more pics (today's work), with a bit of green touch...
Still work in progress...

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The place to visit...

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A pleasant place to have a rest...

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Pedestrian way (climbing)...

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Twin tunnels entrance.

Cheers
Fabrice

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Offline hennabm  
#194 Posted : 20 October 2012 17:59:40(UTC)
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Hi Fabrice

The scenics are looking good. I like the twin tunnel ThumpUp

What are you going to use on the track as far as ballast is coneerned and how far in to the tunnel will you go with it?

Mike
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What's digital?
Offline French_Fabrice  
#195 Posted : 20 October 2012 19:57:39(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: hennabm Go to Quoted Post
Hi Fabrice

The scenics are looking good. I like the twin tunnel ThumpUp

What are you going to use on the track as far as ballast is coneerned and how far in to the tunnel will you go with it?

Mike


Hi Mike,
I think your reply has triggered the beginning of my ballasting task Crying !

Just begun with the tunnels entrance Cursing. I know I should have started it before, when it was easier to do...
I'll try to do my best, but don't expect marvellous things.

So far, I'll retain two good lessons for my next layout Mellow :
1) Accessibility is a major factor
2) Not be in a hurry and make things in the appropriate order

Cheers
Fabrice
Offline Johnvr  
#196 Posted : 21 October 2012 06:45:31(UTC)
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Great progress on a wonderful layout !

Regards,BigGrin
John
Offline steventrain  
#197 Posted : 21 October 2012 08:00:41(UTC)
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Location: Northern Ireland
Great process, Fabrice.ThumpUp
Largest marklinist Layout with Centrail station 2/Mobile station 2/60174 boosters/C-Tracks/K-Tracks/Favorites class BR01, BR23, BR50/Insider Club membership since 2004.
Offline Z-nerd  
#198 Posted : 21 October 2012 08:51:29(UTC)
Z-nerd

Sweden   
Joined: 10/10/2012(UTC)
Posts: 64
Location: Linköping
I see you use older pre 1981 K-switches. I also would prefer them instead of the more fragile newer ones with deattacheblae electric motors.
Offline French_Fabrice  
#199 Posted : 21 October 2012 10:49:22(UTC)
French_Fabrice

France   
Joined: 16/05/2011(UTC)
Posts: 635
Location: Lyon, France
Thanks guys !

@Z-nerd : yes, they are more robust, but they are not beautiful. That's why I use them on hidden sections.

One last pic, regarding the ballast:
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Glue is drying...

Cheers
Fabrice

Edited by user 17 June 2014 17:02:45(UTC)  | Reason: re-uploaded pictures

Offline French_Fabrice  
#200 Posted : 28 October 2012 20:30:43(UTC)
French_Fabrice

France   
Joined: 16/05/2011(UTC)
Posts: 635
Location: Lyon, France
Hello fans.

3 pics of the ongoing ballasting task. It is the most difficult thing I've done so farCrying
I'm now understanding what Rinus means when he says "you become a different person after...".Bored

I've tried first to wet the ballast with water, and in a second attempt with alcohol. I prefer the second method, most easier for glueing after.

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Cheers
Fabrice

Edited by user 17 June 2014 17:05:48(UTC)  | Reason: re-uploaded pictures

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