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Offline 20-VOLT-AC  
#1 Posted : 28 April 2012 08:56:14(UTC)
20-VOLT-AC

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Hi Guys.
Does anyone know which control switches i need for a 451 G crane (early version ) ?

Neil.
All Metal Marklin Fan .
Offline DaveB  
#2 Posted : 28 April 2012 09:28:47(UTC)
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Neil, is this what you are looking for: http://www.ebay.com/itm/...-Crane-HTF-/120897658420 ?

This will also work: Märklin Control Box 97279 in newer grey box.

Edited by user 28 April 2012 09:34:33(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#3 Posted : 28 April 2012 09:35:46(UTC)
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Eckert Engineering on US ebay have the newer (white) control boxes.
Offline DaveB  
#4 Posted : 28 April 2012 09:57:02(UTC)
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Offline Markus Schild  
#5 Posted : 28 April 2012 10:45:41(UTC)
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Hi Neil,

The early version came with a pair of switches like these (one of each). But they had special stickers and were numbered 474/51 and 475/51. But there is no technical difference.

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Regards

Markus
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Offline 20-VOLT-AC  
#6 Posted : 28 April 2012 10:58:07(UTC)
20-VOLT-AC

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Hi Markus.
Yes they look like the ones, all metal construction types.

Will get some on ebay DE site, none here in UK !! Glare


Thanks Neil.
All Metal Marklin Fan .
Offline 20-VOLT-AC  
#7 Posted : 28 April 2012 11:05:59(UTC)
20-VOLT-AC

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Does anyone know if the mechanisms and gearboxes on the early 451 G cranes are the same as the later 70** series ?

Can the drive parts on later versions be swapped over and used for donor parts on early versions if needed ?.

They are well engineered inside.

Neil.

All Metal Marklin Fan .
Offline Markus Schild  
#8 Posted : 28 April 2012 12:36:14(UTC)
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Hi Neil,

Yes, the drive parts of the 7072 would fit mechanical also in the early version. But in detail a 1950s part every-time looks a little bit different from the later ones. Due to historic reasons I would avoid to mix up new parts in an old crane. It is always cheaper to buy a model in good working condition than restoring one.

Regards

Markus
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#9 Posted : 29 April 2012 21:28:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DaveB Go to Quoted Post



Yes, that's them!
Offline drstapes  
#10 Posted : 29 April 2012 23:22:54(UTC)
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I gather you can use the 7072 control boxes as well,which would be a lot cheaper,perhaps someone could explain how this is done?
Regards

Geoff (UK)

marklin HO from the 50's and 60's
Offline Markus Schild  
#11 Posted : 30 April 2012 09:36:27(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: drstapes Go to Quoted Post
I gather you can use the 7072 control boxes as well,which would be a lot cheaper,perhaps someone could explain how this is done?


Hi Geoff,

Yes, this can be done, but you need an additional control - box 7210. The functions "up/down" and "rotate" must be connected to the 7072, the magnet and the light (these are two functions at early cranes) to the 7210.

Regards

Markus
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Offline drstapes  
#12 Posted : 30 April 2012 22:08:52(UTC)
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Marcus,
Thanks for your reply,
You really have the answer to everything!

Regards

Geoff (UK)

marklin HO from the 50's and 60's
Offline 20-VOLT-AC  
#13 Posted : 02 May 2012 19:37:38(UTC)
20-VOLT-AC

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Thanks guy's for all your interesting answers on this post !

Neil.
All Metal Marklin Fan .
Offline LMS800  
#14 Posted : 03 May 2012 09:26:08(UTC)
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Hello Neil,
for the cran 451 G you need two control panels, panel 474/51 for "turn left", "turn rigt", "up" and "down"
and panel 475/51 for light und magnetic funtions.

Regards Wolf

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Offline jvuye  
#15 Posted : 03 May 2012 15:42:43(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 20-VOLT-AC Go to Quoted Post
Thanks guy's for all your interesting answers on this post !

Neil.


Neil
I have an extra control for that crane, but later (blue) version .
It's yours, just send me an MP with your coordinates
Cheers
Jacques
Jacques Vuye aka Dr.Eisenbahn
Once a vandal, learning to be better and had great success!
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