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Offline xxup  
#201 Posted : 26 July 2011 11:48:07(UTC)
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This looks like you have been to the NevW school of epic layouts.. Makes the layout Miss 11 and I did look tiny..

Great work.. Smile
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Offline Ian555  
#202 Posted : 26 July 2011 12:59:10(UTC)
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Hi David,

Great progress on the layout. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline river6109  
#203 Posted : 26 July 2011 13:56:33(UTC)
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David,

I assume the original layout was formed with m-tracks and the new part (huge extension if this what you can call it) with c-track.

Your plan and layout looks impressive and I may add looks very professional ( don't know what it means), well it is far from going around in circles.

Any ideas how many trains you'll have running ?

regards.

John



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Offline RayF  
#204 Posted : 26 July 2011 15:40:12(UTC)
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Great progress David. ThumpUp

I look forward to seeing more bits of the layout appearing. I like the idea of the mountain branch.
Ray

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#205 Posted : 26 July 2011 22:16:19(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
David,

I assume the original layout was formed with m-tracks and the new part (huge extension if this what you can call it) with c-track.

Your plan and layout looks impressive and I may add looks very professional ( don't know what it means), well it is far from going around in circles.

Any ideas how many trains you'll have running ?

regards.

John



Hi John, yes the original layout is in M track, and the extension is in C track. There will also be a bit of K track attached to the turntable (Turntable is currently on its way from Germany).

I used to be able to have 4 trains running on the old layout, so I should be able to get 6 running on the new. Plus, the schattenbahnhof holds 8 trains, and then there is the branch line. So that is a total of 15 or 16 trains on track at any one time, plus whatever is in the yards, etc. Plus with 2 7051 cranes, the container terminal, the turntable and remote controlled coaling station, there will be plenty of other distractions to occupy people's attention.
Offline river6109  
#206 Posted : 26 July 2011 23:32:37(UTC)
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David,

No retirement for you for a long time.

John
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Offline nevw  
#207 Posted : 26 July 2011 23:58:33(UTC)
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Very nice work David.

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Offline Chris6382chris  
#208 Posted : 27 July 2011 00:23:45(UTC)
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That looks great. That is going to be a very big addition to the existing layout. Keep the pictures coming.

I have one question, how do you like the use of the bolts to set your elevation? Is it very sturdy and have you had any problems with it? I would be curious to read what you have to say about that.

Chris
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#209 Posted : 27 July 2011 04:24:02(UTC)
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Surprisingly Chris, I have found the bolts to be quite sturdy. I have, in places, screwed the inclines into the sideboards, after getting the incline adjusted correctly, but by and large, I have found them to be quite sturdy. I'm not sure what I will do with the nuts that are in visible areas, they will probably get a bush or small building placed over them to hide the nuts from view.

Thanks for the comments guys, I think it is always good to have a project on the go, keeps you occupied!
Offline pab  
#210 Posted : 29 July 2011 08:32:22(UTC)
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Big addition.
Offline Macfire  
#211 Posted : 29 July 2011 08:58:11(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
...test trains going up the the approx 6.5% inclines - most of them get up OK.


Want one of these?
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Offline kariosls37  
#212 Posted : 29 July 2011 10:52:38(UTC)
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Bar the Single Fairlies, the coolest steam engines on the NZRThumpUp
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#213 Posted : 29 July 2011 12:21:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Macfire Go to Quoted Post
Want one of these?



Cool.............ThumpUp............what is it?? Confused
Offline kariosls37  
#214 Posted : 29 July 2011 21:22:25(UTC)
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It's an H class Fell engine. 6 were built for plodding up and down the 3 mile Rimutaka incline, with a continuous gradient of 1 in 15 and almost continuous sharp curves. To get up the hill, these engines were equipped with a seperate pair of cylinders and horizontal wheels to grip a raised third rail.
See also The Rimutaka Incline Railway who wants to re-lay track on the old (still existing) roadbed.
H class at work:
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#215 Posted : 29 July 2011 22:07:53(UTC)
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Ah yes, now I'm with you! We had a presentation at our Marklin Club a few years ago from the Rimutaka Incline people, and we also have a few books and videos about it as well in our library. I think I may have even published an article about it in our 3rd Railer magazine a few months ago.


However, I don't think the Marklin 3rd rail is intended to be used as a Fell system to help locos get up my inclines!
Offline M-Trackman  
#216 Posted : 09 March 2012 21:20:23(UTC)
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Any updates? Haven't been around here for a couple of years, sorry if I missed something.....
Offline M-Trackman  
#217 Posted : 26 March 2012 20:25:05(UTC)
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Well, I guess that's a big no then, huh....shame, I'm going to build this layout myself, was hoping to see it more or less finished.
Offline huttel  
#218 Posted : 07 April 2012 20:48:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Thorfinn Go to Quoted Post
I have tried to make it in Wintrack but I couldnt do it, I dont have alot of experience with Wintrack...
Maybe there is someone here who can make this for me?


Hello Thorfinn

Don't know if it still is relevant but here's the trackplan you asked for:

Trackplan with C-track and R1/R2 curves

Tracks needed

I would still highly recommend to use R2/R3 curves and not R1/R2 curves as in the above plan but understand that it can be a matter of available space.

Regards,
Thomas
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Old Märklin layout R1-R2 020407.zip (7kb) downloaded 60 time(s).
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#219 Posted : 07 April 2012 21:16:40(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: M-Trackman Go to Quoted Post
Well, I guess that's a big no then, huh....



My apologies M-Trackman, I didn't realise that further questions had been asked in this thread. Shows how often I look at it!

I haven't had as much time as I'd like to work on the layout, hopefully with winter on the way soon, there might be some bad weather that keeps me inside!

When I have had some time, I've been working on getting the turntable installed and working, and roundhouse building. I don't have any photos though.
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Offline kbvrod  
#220 Posted : 07 April 2012 22:13:10(UTC)
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Hi all,

> hopefully with winter on the way soon, there might be some bad weather that keeps me inside!<

Pardon?Blink Flapper LOL Oh,I forgot,......BigGrin

>When I have had some time, I've been working on getting the turntable installed and working, and roundhouse building. I don't have any photos though.<

Looking forword to that! Inspection pits in the Ringlokshuppen?Laugh

Dr D
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#221 Posted : 07 April 2012 22:37:02(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kbvrod Go to Quoted Post
Inspection pits in the Ringlokshuppen?Laugh


Thinking about buying one, and thinking about where to put it!


BTW, the Bosch/Fein multitools are the best invention since sliced bread. Great for plunge cuts, have been using mine on the layout as well as jobs around the house.


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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#222 Posted : 09 April 2012 08:53:58(UTC)
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Here's a picture of the beginnings of the Bahnbetriebswerk I've started work on. One 6 stall roundhouse is partially built, and there is another one to do as well. Plus, there will be a 2 loco engine shed at the end of tracks that will be running in front of the turntable.


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Offline Ian555  
#223 Posted : 09 April 2012 09:27:48(UTC)
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Hi David,

Looks great. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline steventrain  
#224 Posted : 09 April 2012 09:41:25(UTC)
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Looking good, Keep posted David.
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Offline M-Trackman  
#225 Posted : 09 April 2012 13:50:33(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post



My apologies M-Trackman, I didn't realise that further questions had been asked in this thread. Shows how often I look at it!

I haven't had as much time as I'd like to work on the layout, hopefully with winter on the way soon, there might be some bad weather that keeps me inside!

When I have had some time, I've been working on getting the turntable installed and working, and roundhouse building. I don't have any photos though.


Hey Bigdaddy, I feel I'm the one who needs to apologise, I didn't mean to come across as strong as I did, that was not my intention at all. Writing shows no emotion, and reading back I thought to myself I didn't look very nice. Sorry about that!

I was just a bit disappointed there were no updates, and I was hoping you responded at some point, which luckily you did!

Years back when I just joined I followed your post about this layout with much interest, but at the time (maybe you remember) I had no possibility to realize a layout myself, no matter how small. Due to some events in my life I haven't been here for years, but we moved house a year ago and last month our son moved out so I finally have the opportunity to get something started.

The room I have available will accept the layout that you used, and I too have very nice memories about it, finding it the most interesting layout at the time, dreaming of building it myself some day. But enough about me. BigGrin

I will be using M-track for the whole layout. The only thing I have to add are 7 bridges, as I only have one, and a bunch of catenary...

A couple of questions for you:

1. The only downside (if you can call it that) of the original plan is the lack of a Bw including loc shed and turntable. I also would like to extend this plan with a lower level shadow station, do you think both options are feasible using the original layout?

2. Am I correct the original layout already has a lot of possibilities and play potential?


Looking forward to some regular updates/pictures, and very happy to see this post active again. Let's keep it alive! Smile

Offline Bigdaddynz  
#226 Posted : 09 April 2012 21:28:07(UTC)
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Hi Eric, If you have a look at previous pages in this thread, you will see a trackplan that I posted that included a turntable with a 3 stall roundhouse in place of the 3 way turnout siding in the top right hand of the plan.

I thought about a shadow station after I had built the layout, and ended up re drawing the layout to include an extension out the left hand side which allowed ramps for a shadow station underneath the layout. This had the added benefit of allowing room to install a turntable and roundhouses.
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Offline Ian555  
#227 Posted : 10 April 2012 06:00:35(UTC)
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Hi David,

Great plan. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline sop  
#228 Posted : 10 April 2012 09:12:59(UTC)
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it's cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! David

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Offline M-Trackman  
#229 Posted : 10 April 2012 21:01:17(UTC)
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Hi David,

yes, I saw the trackplan you posted earlier with the turntable in the top right hand of the plan, that would be doable, using only one roundhouse.

Unfortunately, I don't have enough room to extend the original layout like you did, so I have to work with the original sizes....maybe I'll have to sit myself down and start experimenting in Wintrack on a rainy day.

Needless to say I really love the ideas you added to the original and the way the trackplan came out, fantastic!
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#230 Posted : 10 April 2012 21:53:21(UTC)
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If you did find a way to expand the layout, you may not need to go as wide, as I added an extra 2 tracks each into the 4 station lines. Omitting those would save you 360mm.
Offline M-Trackman  
#231 Posted : 11 April 2012 20:35:19(UTC)
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Indeed. Well, first things first, I'll try to make some rough drawings if I get around to it. Maybe it's possible to go down a level in the tunnel area up top by using a helix....just thinking out loud, going to be tight...

Still curious about the possibilities of the original layout, it looks like it has plenty of them, am I right? Now that I have the space after all this time I don't want a layout that gets boring quickly!
Offline kevwill  
#232 Posted : 11 April 2012 21:06:20(UTC)
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David

Re-read this thread from the opening post and its amazing to see an initial idea evolve like your layout has.
You have given me numerous new ideas for my proposed layout ,so i thank you for that.

It will be fantastic when building is completed, and i hope you have many enjoyable hours undisturbed running it.

Kevin
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Offline river6109  
#233 Posted : 12 April 2012 07:02:30(UTC)
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Dave,
very impressive,

Looking at your trackplan one section point (3 tracks meet) right hand top corner., with the overheasystem going, the ground track and than the upper track, I assume 90-100mm, the top track must be at least 180-200 high.
the whole layout would give a lot more scope, options, more trains, more headaches and more fun.

John
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Offline river6109  
#234 Posted : 12 April 2012 07:05:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
Dave,
very impressive,

Looking at your trackplan one section point (3 tracks meet) right hand top corner., with the overheasystem going, the ground track and than the upper track, I assume 90-100mm, the top track must be at least 180-200 high.
the whole layout would give a lot more scope, options, more trains, more headaches and more fun.

John


Just realized I looked at the trackplan from the 10th April 2010.LOL so its a bit late to respond to your proposed track plan than,
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#235 Posted : 12 April 2012 10:40:12(UTC)
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John, there's 230mm between the main level and the Schattenbahnhof, plus the arch bridges are 100mm above the main level, with the new diagonal bridge is 180mm above the main level.
Offline robertrt  
#236 Posted : 30 August 2012 02:12:01(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Well, I've been blathering on on this forum for a few months now, so I figured it is time to post a bit of info about my layout, such as it is.

Firstly, I'll start off with a track plan.......made from good old M Track.

UserPostedImage

Anyone ever seen this before, and can you tell me where?

Size is 3.4m at the top, 2.4m on the right hand side, 1.5m on the left, and the bridge approach end is 1.2m


I would like to do this with C track. Can you help?
Robert J P
Offline robertrt  
#237 Posted : 30 August 2012 02:18:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: bellejt Go to Quoted Post
this looks like a Marklin plan from the years 70 .I schould look into my old catalogues to find it.


Any info on this plan with c track

Robert
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Offline Nielsenr  
#238 Posted : 30 August 2012 03:36:43(UTC)
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Robert,

Check post #218 above for a c-track version.

BTW, haven't seen you on the forum before ... where in Boca are you??

Robert
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#239 Posted : 30 August 2012 03:43:16(UTC)
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Robert, if you look through the other pages in this thread, you will see that one or two forum members have redrawn this layout plan in C track, and have posted the resultant trackplan.
Offline Jeremy Palmer  
#240 Posted : 31 August 2012 07:06:41(UTC)
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Thanks Dave, awesome job - looking forward to more photos.

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Offline Superlampster  
#241 Posted : 31 August 2012 17:16:48(UTC)
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This thread has given me alot of ideas for my future layout, thanks alot and keep up the good work !

Regards Henrik from Sweden
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Offline robertrt  
#242 Posted : 02 September 2012 23:38:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Well, I've been blathering on on this forum for a few months now, so I figured it is time to post a bit of info about my layout, such as it is.

Firstly, I'll start off with a track plan.......made from good old M Track.

UserPostedImage

Anyone ever seen this before, and can you tell me where?

Size is 3.4m at the top, 2.4m on the right hand side, 1.5m on the left, and the bridge approach end is 1.2m


where can in get this plan in c track?
Robert J P
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#243 Posted : 03 September 2012 00:34:49(UTC)
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Robert, please stop infecting this thread with your requests. This is about the 4th time you've asked (under 2 different userid's), but the question has already been answered - the plan you request is in post #218 at the top of this thread.

Do it again, and I'll be forced to lock your account.
Offline David O  
#244 Posted : 15 February 2013 04:12:42(UTC)
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Hi BDNZ, I am newbie with lots of white hair and wrinkles.
As luck would have it my layout is the right size for this plan (modules are 1.2m by 1.5m)
I am in the process of laying cork on the ply and hope to start laying track (C track) shortly.

What do you think about laying a 3mm piece of cork alongside the track to help reduce the profile?????

Any help would be appreciated.

David O...
Offline steventrain  
#245 Posted : 15 February 2013 13:34:46(UTC)
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Hi and Welcome to the forum David.Smile
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Offline Ian555  
#246 Posted : 15 February 2013 14:15:18(UTC)
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Hi David,

Welcome to the forum. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline Bigdaddynz  
#247 Posted : 15 February 2013 21:32:59(UTC)
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Hi David,

Welcome to the forum. C track is reasonably quiet without anything under it, but putting some cork under the track would make it quieter. You might want to think about whether you use screws or not to fasten the track down, as screws can transmit sound into the baseboard. Many folks use a hot glue gun for this purpose.

I'm more than happy with mounting C track with screws directly on to my MDF baseboard, that's still quieter than mounting M track on cork!
Offline David O  
#248 Posted : 18 February 2013 05:33:37(UTC)
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Hi Gents,
Thanks for the response.

Just by way of interest I am from Sydney Australia -- I last had a dabble (limited)with trains about 30 years ago -- N scale, but life got in the way.

Started with Marklin because of the quality which I find to be significantly better than the majority of other brands. Not happy about the cost ,,,, but, you get what you pay for.

My trains at this point, consist of 10 Era 111/1V freight cars, 1 (I think)DP41 steam engine(weathered)1 tank engine and a pile of track.

Over the weekend I covered my benches with 3mm cork which surprisingly did reduce the drumming somewhat.

I will probably have 120 questions which I will ask over time.

I won't permanently secure the track untill I am I have won the lottery and purchased the rest of the required track. I like the idea of the hot glue gun.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#249 Posted : 21 April 2013 06:10:54(UTC)
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I haven't really done much to my layout over the summer months, rather I've been doing all those house maintenance jobs that need doing.

Two things I have been able to do is build some models, usually while watching TV.

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Firstly, I built a Pola 2 engine engine shed, which will be part of my maintenance yard.

UserPostedImage

UserPostedImage

Secondly, you might recognise this bridge. No, I didn't destroy my module and pull the bridge out of it, rather I built a second one, as I figured that it could go where I've put it. It had to be recessed somewhat, but I've seen others on this forum do that same thing, so figured I could as well.

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Offline Ian555  
#250 Posted : 21 April 2013 06:26:33(UTC)
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Hi David,

It is a great looking bridge.

Very nice work. ThumpUp

Ian.

Offline Bigdaddynz  
#251 Posted : 21 April 2013 10:49:22(UTC)
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Thanks Ian.

On Friday night we had a running session on our H0 modules at the MMRC club. I had my 377994 Big Boy there, so I took a small video of it. This is the first time I've had it out on the tracks.

The other train you see is an Alaska F7 with 2 'A' units and a 'B' units, pulling a silo car train. The F7 and the silo train belong to 2 separate club members.
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Offline kweekalot  
#252 Posted : 21 April 2013 14:00:44(UTC)
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Hi Dave,
I can't watch your vid, it shows 'private' / black screen. Confused

Marco
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#253 Posted : 21 April 2013 18:10:51(UTC)
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Offline RayF  
#254 Posted : 21 April 2013 19:58:56(UTC)
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Hi David,

You have to change your youtube settings so we can see it.
Ray

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#255 Posted : 21 April 2013 20:28:26(UTC)
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Not sure what happened there, all previous videos I uploaded with Picassa were OK. This one for some reason set itself to Private viewing only! Confused

Anyway, I've changed the settings, so you should be able to view it now.

BTW, those are R1 curves that the BB is running on!
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Offline kweekalot  
#256 Posted : 21 April 2013 20:41:17(UTC)
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Hi Dave,
Wow, that is a long loco !! Scared
First time I see a Big Boy in action.
Thanks for sharing.

Marco
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Offline ozzman  
#257 Posted : 21 April 2013 20:47:58(UTC)
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Thanks for the video.

"BTW, those are R1 curves that the BB is running on!" Just goes to show how good Marklin's engineering is.
Gary
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#258 Posted : 12 May 2013 05:01:22(UTC)
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I took a small video this afternoon of the first train to run over the new bridge on the layout. Please excuse the mess on parts of the layout, and the bright afternoon sun coming through the window. There's one or two slight dead spots i need to sort out as well, so you might see the loco jerk a bit in places. The loco is the Marklin 30210 V200 with 6 tinplate coaches.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#259 Posted : 12 May 2013 06:27:45(UTC)
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The first dead spot you see in the video, going down the ramp to underneath the layout, I found to be on the first piece of track on the boundary of where the boosted section starts, and the piece happened to be a feeder track piece. Whoever thought you'd get a dead spot on a feeder track piece!?? I replaced the piece of track, and now all is good in that area!
Offline Ian555  
#260 Posted : 12 May 2013 07:04:24(UTC)
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Hi David,

Great video, really lets us have a look round your layout. ThumpUp

Ian.

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Offline river6109  
#261 Posted : 12 May 2013 07:24:08(UTC)
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Dave,

Enjoyed the video, I didn't realize how big your layout is.
thanks for sharing

John
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Offline steventrain  
#262 Posted : 12 May 2013 08:42:27(UTC)
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Excellent video, David.Smile

I see two controllers - ECOS and CS2.
Largest marklinist Layout with Centrail station 2/Mobile station 2/60174 boosters/C-Tracks/K-Tracks/Favorites class BR01, BR23, BR50/Insider Club membership since 2004.
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Offline petestra  
#263 Posted : 12 May 2013 10:08:43(UTC)
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Very nice video, David. I really like the layout too. PeterThumpUp Smile
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#264 Posted : 12 May 2013 10:26:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
I see two controllers - ECOS and CS2.


Yes, CS2 with booster was powering the layout, although I do use the Ecos from time to time. I was using an Ecos power supply to power the CS2 booster. I also use either one to power my 1 Gauge Carpetbahn from time to time.

Also not on view is a 6021 and a CS1 (let alone MS1 and MS2).

I've just had to spend a bit of time troubleshooting the layout, as the first time I used it after not having done much with it over the summer months, I discovered there was a short somewhere. That's why you see some track disassembled - I had to break sections up in order to discover where the short was. It turned out that it was one of the turntable spokes - the one the turntable is set on in the video.

The helix / spiral you see is a branch line which will eventually lead to a village situated at about 120mm above the bridge line. You can see the entry line with passing bay running under the Bietschtal bridge. The bridge line is 180mm above the main level, and the lower level is 230mm below the main level. That makes a total of 530mm from the lowest to the highest levels.

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Offline kweekalot  
#265 Posted : 12 May 2013 19:21:16(UTC)
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Hi Dave,
Great video !! ThumpUp
It is the first time I see your entire layout this way.
I really like it.

Marco
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Offline Yumgui  
#266 Posted : 12 May 2013 19:30:25(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: river6109 Go to Quoted Post
Dave,
Enjoyed the video, I didn't realize how big your layout is.
thanks for sharing
John

Dito ! Really nice to see all that running space ...

Y Drool

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#267 Posted : 12 May 2013 20:38:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kweekalot Go to Quoted Post
Great video !! ThumpUp
It is the first time I see your entire layout this way.
I really like it.


Thanks all.

That's one of the reasons I made the video (apart from showing off the first train to run across the bridge!). It's one thing to look at a bunch of pictures and a trackplan, but there's nothing like a video with trains running on a layout to get a sense of scale of the layout.
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Offline Janne75  
#268 Posted : 12 May 2013 20:50:03(UTC)
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Thanks from video and good overview tour of your layout. Good alterations and enough track lenght! ThumpUp You can run a very long distance before the loco is back again at the starting point. It looks also good with long trains and it is always nice when locos have to climb the hills. You have very much layout area, if you are going to make scenery there also?

I will make scenery only to top part of my small layout (kind of U-shape in a room of around 3x3 meters only). Bottom level will be without scenery = only tracks. Actually my "bridge table" will get scenery and also tunnel entrances to below top level layout. I have the bottom level only 15-20 cm below top level so it can not be seen easily. It will only be used to turn locos direction, some train storage and to do some optical tricks when trains dissapear and suddenly comes visible from different place and/or direction. My layouts top and bottom levels are not yet connected together.

Regards,
Janne
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#269 Posted : 12 May 2013 22:59:39(UTC)
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Hi Janne, yes there will be scenery at some time, but for now my focus is to complete the wiring of turnouts / signals and sensors. There are 3 stations on the layout, I have the Kibri Bonn for the M track station area, the Vollmer Baden Baden for the station area on the other side of the bridge, and the Vollmer Moritzburg for the alpine village.

UserPostedImage

Kibri Bonn Bahnhof

UserPostedImage

Vollmer Baden Baden Bahnhof

UserPostedImage

Vollmer Moritzburg Bahnhof

Now of course, these stations aren't anywhere near each other in real life, but I like the buildings, it's my layout and I can put whatever buildings wherever I like! So, maybe not one for the purists, but there you go!
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Offline Janne75  
#270 Posted : 13 May 2013 08:19:28(UTC)
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Really beautiful stations. This hobby must not be taken too seriously and everyone can make their own layout just like they want. I have no any real places or buildings at my layout. I have not even space for such great looking stations. Thanks for sharing these pictures ThumpUp .

Janne
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#271 Posted : 13 May 2013 21:45:23(UTC)
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Hi David,

Thanks for the latest video. I like your layout very much, it really is an achievement.
(Lots of work too Blink ).

It has so much track, and places of interest for a train watcher.

regards
Kimball
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Offline Danlake  
#272 Posted : 14 May 2013 09:29:02(UTC)
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Hi David,

Great to see a video of your layout. Excellent track plan and layingThumpUp

Look forward to see more as the layout progressBigGrin

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Offline GlennM  
#273 Posted : 14 May 2013 16:30:32(UTC)
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David,

Great video, and the layout is really coming together and looking good. ThumpUp ThumpUp ThumpUp

I hope you will continue post lots more pics over the coming weeks, as I am always looking for ideas, and enjoy seeing the final layouts come together.

BR

Glenn
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Offline Christoffer  
#274 Posted : 21 May 2013 19:56:08(UTC)
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Hello David,

Thanks for the video, very nice to see your layout ThumpUp

Christoffer
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Offline kariosls37  
#275 Posted : 22 May 2013 00:42:50(UTC)
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Good to see some progress on the layout.

And never let the prototype get in the way of a good layoutSneaky
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Offline mattj70  
#276 Posted : 22 May 2013 00:47:31(UTC)
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Looks great like all the activity on the rails!
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Offline old toot  
#277 Posted : 22 May 2013 21:46:08(UTC)
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Hi David

well its coming on and gives you some long runs the big bridge is always
a great looker eh , are you going to drop to the lower level below the bridge
to create a deep valley effect Love the noise of the M track and we have plenty of
extra M second hand here if you needs some extra including I have got all the little
section peices arrived in recently and all in very good condition almost mint
well enjoy the winter as Ken Ring says we are in for three months of snow so should
be good for train building BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin
and see you guys in November and the Club Modules are coming on down here also
we have about 10 units including three corner modules all being done in K track and
really looks cool and will be on show at the chch show this year
Good to see the big boy and all the smoke, we have done about three Brosigs lately for upgrades
and they all have had double 7226 smoke installed and the smoke they chunder out is really cool
as dusan has on his club videos shows
well must get back to it all the best David and have fun
bryan old toot
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#278 Posted : 24 May 2013 21:53:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: old toot Go to Quoted Post
.......are you going to drop to the lower level below the bridge to create a deep valley effect


Thanks Bryan. As there is a branch line running under the bridge, and other track running on the lower level underneath that, there won't be any deep valleys.

Offline christos563  
#279 Posted : 09 August 2013 19:19:59(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: laalves Go to Quoted Post
Superb.... the classic Märklin look and feel, combined with today's technology!

Great job!

Luís


Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Well, I've been blathering on on this forum for a few months now, so I figured it is time to post a bit of info about my layout, such as it is.

Firstly, I'll start off with a track plan.......made from good old M Track.

UserPostedImage

Anyone ever seen this before, and can you tell me where?

Size is 3.4m at the top, 2.4m on the right hand side, 1.5m on the left, and the bridge approach end is 1.2m




..... AND BOTH THE PLANS ARE OUTSTANDING OVER THE CENTURY. AND VERY NICE. !!
CHRISTOS563.
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Offline petestra  
#280 Posted : 09 August 2013 22:38:14(UTC)
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This is a classic Märklin catalog layout. Just wonderful, Christos.

PeterThumpUp ThumpUp ThumpUp Smile
Offline Johnvr  
#281 Posted : 10 August 2013 06:09:00(UTC)
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Hi David,

I really enjoyed watching the video of the train across the bridge !
Your layout extensions are very interesting, and the running time around the layout will be increased dramatically !
(don't know why I missed this in May ?!?)

Regards,BigGrin
John
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#282 Posted : 10 August 2013 06:20:12(UTC)
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Thanks all.

I've more or less finished wiring up the Schattenbahnhof, just need to test the sensors - all the dead sections are working ok.

I'm working on lengthening the rear incline to make it a lesser gradient (currently about 5%) - the test will be a V200 with seven 24cm tinplate coaches - currently it struggles with that many coaches, and I don't want to pull the guts out of my locos.
Offline tayloma  
#283 Posted : 12 February 2014 13:00:43(UTC)
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Hi all

This plan is from the 1971 Marklin catalogue

Regards

Mark
Regards

Mark
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#284 Posted : 12 February 2014 20:11:23(UTC)
Bigdaddynz

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Yes it is. You'll see on the first page of this thread that I've posted some images from the 1971 catalog of this layout.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#285 Posted : 12 February 2014 20:16:02(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
I'm working on lengthening the rear incline to make it a lesser gradient.......


I ended up putting about another metre length into the incline (total rise is 230mm over about 5 metre length), which makes it a lot easier on locos pulling longer trains up the incline.

During my Summer holidays (well it was raining on the days I did it) I built a display case on one wall in the train room.

Edit: the Display case has 2 shelves 3.5 metres long for H0 trains and 1 shelf 3.5 metres long for Gauge 1 trains.

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Offline Martin T  
#286 Posted : 13 February 2014 10:08:52(UTC)
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Very nice display!
Drool

I realize now (too late) I should have built a bigger display, like yours.
The number of locos and cars are growing much faster than what I ever could imagine when I planned my train room.
Smile
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#287 Posted : 13 February 2014 10:54:37(UTC)
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Thanks Martin. The alcove in which I built the display case is formed because a steel beam goes through the train room (above the display case) which holds the upper level of the house up.

So, it made a rather convenient place to put a display case.

I intend to wire up the tracks on each level with feeder wires, so that I can plug a mobile station in and drive locos from one end to the other - access to the case is really only available from one end, once the layout is completed.
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