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Offline DaleSchultz  
#1 Posted : 19 January 2011 02:45:23(UTC)
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I see Märklin have an iPhone app in their new items flyer - see page 141 at http://medienpdb.maerkli...lin_NH-Prospekt_2011.pdf

It looks like a loco controller rather than a layout control system still but great to see Märklin working on mobile devices.

I predict that soon the controller itself will be a nondescript box connected to power, track and network and all train controllers will be untethered mobile devices (such as phones etc). How it should be.
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Offline Ranjit  
#2 Posted : 19 January 2011 02:54:54(UTC)
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Not for me, thank you!

The future of Apple is uncertain, and God knows where iPhone will be in such a stiff competitive environment.

Cheers,
Ranjit

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Offline sebastian  
#3 Posted : 19 January 2011 03:02:11(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Ranjit Go to Quoted Post
Not for me, thank you!

The future of Apple is uncertain, and God knows where iPhone will be in such a stif competitive environment.

Cheers,
Ranjit

No offense Ranjit, but where did you come up with the Apple uncertainty? BigGrin
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Offline Ranjit  
#4 Posted : 19 January 2011 03:04:36(UTC)
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Hi Sebastian,

Did you know that Steve has left the building on extended medical leave this time.

Cheers,
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#5 Posted : 19 January 2011 03:27:17(UTC)
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Jobs might be crook, but the company isn't!

This app should also work on ipods and ipads, so you don't need to have an iphone at all.

And if the Apple market goes down the tubes, I'm sure Marklin could just as easily issue an Andriod version of this app, or maybe even a Windows Mobile version.
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Offline GSRR  
#6 Posted : 19 January 2011 03:33:48(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DaleSchultz Go to Quoted Post
I see Märklin have an iPhone app in their new items flyer - see page 141 at http://medienpdb.maerkli...lin_NH-Prospekt_2011.pdf

It looks like a loco controller rather than a layout control system still but great to see Märklin working on mobile devices.

I predict that soon the controller itself will be a nondescript box connected to power, track and network and all train controllers will be untethered mobile devices (such as phones etc). How it should be.



Dale,

I agree wholeheartedly. I would prefer to just have a connection box and run iTrains through that. The iPad could then be used as a throttle and controller, etc.

The CAN-digital-Bahn project is headed that way I think.



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Offline sebastian  
#7 Posted : 19 January 2011 03:36:39(UTC)
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Hi Sebastian,

Did you know that Steve has left the building on extended medical leave this time.

Cheers,
Ranjit

That doesn't mean anything. And it's not going to affect the future of Apple to the point of closing the shop altogether. BigGrin Cool
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#8 Posted : 19 January 2011 03:43:46(UTC)
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Well some thread drift and OT, but Ranjit, really? Might take a look at the latest earnings.

http://www.appleinsider.com/

I forget the number but I think they are sitting on US$ 50 Billion in cash.

r/Thomas




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Offline sebastian  
#9 Posted : 19 January 2011 03:45:05(UTC)
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I was thinking at this for the past year or so. And not only from an iPhone/iPad perspective, but from a wireless point of view. It would only make sense to have the loco or even the layout controller on an iPad, the new Blackberry pad or something like that. You can have the freedom of movement instead of being stuck in one spot to control the trains. For me personally, it makes sense.
We live in a more or less wireless world so why not with trains? Plus, the resolution offered by such devices - take the next ipad gen for instance, where the rumour is that it'll be double from what it currently is - is tremendous. Add to all this the ability to receive the live video feed from a micro camera installed in a loco and you already opened the door to another world. That's the way I see it.
However, all these might be a few years away or never come. In the mean time I will enjoy my trains to the fullest - wireless or not. Cool
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Offline Ranjit  
#10 Posted : 19 January 2011 03:45:40(UTC)
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Hi Sebastian,

I think you misunderstood me. I did not say anything about "closing shop altogether". Apple is a great company, and I am sure will be around for many years to come, but they have to deal with the stiff competition out there, especially iPhones.

Cheers,
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Offline sebastian  
#11 Posted : 19 January 2011 03:46:45(UTC)
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Well some thread drift and OT, but Ranjit, really? Might take a look at the latest earnings.

http://www.appleinsider.com/

I forget the number but I think they are sitting on US$ 50 Billion in cash.

r/Thomas



Sorry guys, I shouldn't have opened the OT door. My apologies.
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Offline sebastian  
#12 Posted : 19 January 2011 03:50:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Ranjit Go to Quoted Post
Hi Sebastian,

I think you misunderstood me. I did not say anything about "closing shop altogether". Apple is a great company, and I am sure will be around for many years to come, but they have to deal with the stiff competition out there, especially iPhones.

Cheers,
Ranjit


Dude, it's cool. No worries.
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Offline Ranjit  
#13 Posted : 19 January 2011 03:52:05(UTC)
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Sorry about the OT, guys. Let's get back on track.

Cheers,
Ranjit
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Offline GSRR  
#14 Posted : 19 January 2011 04:41:53(UTC)
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Just went to the iTunes store. The app is there now, US$ 5.99
Tried to download to my iPod Touch, says not compatible. Looks like some work is needed.


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Offline sjlauritsen  
#15 Posted : 19 January 2011 05:47:35(UTC)
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I think this is great. I only hope that Märklin will release a similar app for other devices as well. For people already owning one of the devices, this is a great way to have a wireless controller. A cheap way as well, 5€ is a good price.

In Denmark an iPod Touch can be bought for about 160€, compared to your average locomotive price, it is still a cheap way to get a wireless controller.
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#16 Posted : 19 January 2011 05:49:49(UTC)
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Tried to download to my iPod Touch, says not compatible. Looks like some work is needed.

Yeah, but who's work? Is your iPod Touch updated with the latest iOS version? I was just wondering, since if the app is not compatible with the newest version, it would be rather unfortunate.
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Offline clapcott  
#17 Posted : 19 January 2011 09:55:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GSRR Go to Quoted Post
Just went to the iTunes store. The app is there now, US$ 5.99
Tried to download to my iPod Touch, says not compatible. Looks like some work is needed.

Yeah, I got bitten too....no G2 support in mycase

Requirements: Compatible with iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPod touch (3rd generation), iPod touch (4th generation) and iPad. Requires iOS 4.0 or later
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#18 Posted : 19 January 2011 11:54:01(UTC)
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#19 Posted : 19 January 2011 13:32:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GSRR Go to Quoted Post
Just went to the iTunes store. The app is there now, US$ 5.99
Tried to download to my iPod Touch, says not compatible. Looks like some work is needed.

Yeah, I got bitten too....no G2 support in mycase

Requirements: Compatible with iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPod touch (3rd generation), iPod touch (4th generation) and iPad. Requires iOS 4.0 or later




I have a 2nd Gen as well with iOS 4.x.x and iTunes 10.x.x

M* has some work to do. Just as a reminder TouchCab, iRoc, +SmartHand, and WiThrottle all work with 2nd Gen touch.

Peter, I added a comment on the iTunes site for the app about the lack of support, you could do the same.


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#20 Posted : 19 January 2011 13:34:49(UTC)
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Offline DaleSchultz  
#21 Posted : 19 January 2011 14:37:37(UTC)
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I can attest to how nice wireless control is... I have had this on my layout since September 2005!
see http://layout.mixmox.com...tPC_remote_train_control
and
http://layout.mixmox.com/1/Crane_keyboard

I can dispatch trains rather than just muck about with a loco's settings. What I call layout control rather than a cab/loco control.

Edited by user 19 January 2011 18:23:41(UTC)  | Reason: corrected typo now -> nice

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#22 Posted : 19 January 2011 17:57:43(UTC)
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As I mentioned yesterday in the new items topic - they haven't really got their "ergonomics" right but mimic the controller instead of making it really easy to use. TouchCab is better, you just use one thumb to access all features...

From the screenshot, it seems like they have their function icons are on both sides of the speed dial - thus needing 2 thumbs... I've never seen anyone holding an iPod Touch/iPhone with 2 hands... With an iPad, it would make some sense, though...

2nd gen poddy here too... Running iOS 4.2... And TouchCab of course...

Usually the Apple iTunes store apps rely on software version only, so I am a bit confused about what M has done here to require special hardware... And why it is then downloadable to a 2nd gen platform...

Don't know which version of iPod Touch you have?
Identify your iPod here....

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Offline Goofy  
#23 Posted : 19 January 2011 18:18:12(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Ranjit Go to Quoted Post
Not for me, thank you!

The future of Apple is uncertain, and God knows where iPhone will be in such a stiff competitive environment.

Cheers,
Ranjit


I agree with you,Ranjit!
Why to use an mobilphone,when you have already CS2...??? ThumbDown
I think that it has to do about to satisfaction techno-nerd,who wants to play technology more instead...
Pathetical...

LOL
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#24 Posted : 19 January 2011 18:23:58(UTC)
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Why to use an mobilphone,when you have already CS2...???

Maybe if you want to freely control your trains from another place in the room and/or your arms are not long enough to reach the CS?
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Offline DaleSchultz  
#25 Posted : 19 January 2011 18:25:56(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Webmaster Go to Quoted Post

Don't know which version of iPod Touch you have?


assumings is a generic question...

I don't have any iPad, iPod, iPhone

If I do get a smart phone it will be an Android and not tied to any provider.
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#26 Posted : 19 January 2011 18:27:58(UTC)
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That provider tie-up is a US thingy, at least here in Sweden you can buy them without any hooks..
And there are always the iPods/Pads with WiFi only...
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Offline Goofy  
#27 Posted : 19 January 2011 18:35:58(UTC)
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You must buy an route,to connecting up mobilphone to CS2.
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#28 Posted : 19 January 2011 18:54:43(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DaleSchultz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Webmaster Go to Quoted Post

Don't know which version of iPod Touch you have?


assumings is a generic question...

I don't have any iPad, iPod, iPhone

If I do get a smart phone it will be an Android and not tied to any provider.



Dale,

The exclusive bit was only with AT&t and expired today.

http://www.appleinsider...._contracts_now_over.html



You could also look at using the iPad, 2nd Gen is due in April, or a 4th Gen iPod touch.




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#29 Posted : 19 January 2011 18:56:37(UTC)
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You must buy an route,to connecting up mobilphone to CS2.



Goofy did you mean Router, as in WiFi router?




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#30 Posted : 19 January 2011 19:00:10(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
Why to use an mobilphone,when you have already CS2...???

Maybe if you want to freely control your trains from another place in the room and/or your arms are not long enough to reach the CS?



If you have a larger layout at home, or a large club layout some type of wireless, WiFI, or infrared controller comes in very handy.

Being tied to one hardwired permanent location with just one view or perspective make this very worthwhile.

Go to a MRR show some time and see them in action.



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#31 Posted : 19 January 2011 19:23:00(UTC)
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Well, I was curious so downloaded the app to my iPad.

Unfortunately the only message I get is "not connected to a CS2"

CS2 (60214)=140 + GFP 1.36

As I can view the help pages of my CS2 on the iPad the network connection is working.

So perhaps some update is needed on the CS2 side??

As the App is only one day old I think I have to 'wait and see'..

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#32 Posted : 19 January 2011 19:24:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Goofy Go to Quoted Post
You must buy an route,to connecting up mobilphone to CS2.

Goofy did you mean Router, as in WiFi router?

You don't need a router, what you need is a WAP (Wireless access point).

But I put it to you that most iPhone(WiFi)/iPod touch/iPad(WiFi) users are already very conversant with what they need to establish a connection - and, yes, they would also have a router in their network to get to the outside word. The fact that the current "boxes" that one buys/rents from a telco contain the ADSL,Router,WAP components is, in most cases, logical. I have an 8 year old WAP which dosn't have a router but I dusted off and use it purely for iPod to CS communication. Sure it is only 10Mb and should have been tossed years ago but it means I have isolation from the other internet traffic.

Marklin will not be getting any revenue from people going out an buying a wireless device (Apple or otherwise) and it is a bold step (all be it logical from the consumer view) to promote this contemporary connectivity option. To me it signals their desire to "bias" a decision towards a Central Station rather than a Mobile Station. Anyone who already has a WIFI device can immediately write off the cost of the MS towards a CS knowing they will have a superior (untethered, colour , non-proprietry ...) alternative.
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#33 Posted : 19 January 2011 20:01:01(UTC)
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Thomas,

the issue of being tied to a phone carrier is not linked to iPhones. There are also Android phones tied to carriers.

However, so long as Apple decides what apps go in the app store I won't be buying an Apple device. They block Pulitzer prize winners, they block competitors, they block selective news apps that link to a certain organization starting with w, they block boobs and if they feel like it they will block Märklin apps too. Their track record in this area is awful.

I own some Apple stock because I think many people will buy their products, not because I believe in the company.

So if I decide to move to a more powerful device than my existing PDA, it will be Android driven.
Dale
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#34 Posted : 19 January 2011 20:25:40(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DaleSchultz Go to Quoted Post
Thomas,

the issue of being tied to a phone carrier is not linked to iPhones. There are also Android phones tied to carriers.

However, so long as Apple decides what apps go in the app store I won't be buying an Apple device. They block Pulitzer prize winners, they block competitors, they block selective news apps that link to a certain organization starting with w, they block boobs and if they feel like it they will block Märklin apps too. Their track record in this area is awful.

I own some Apple stock because I think many people will buy their products, not because I believe in the company.

So if I decide to move to a more powerful device than my existing PDA, it will be Android driven.



Dale,

I got you. Apple keeps a very tight leash. Not having a USB or SD slot or a user replaceable battery with the iThings drives people nuts. On the other hand the stuff that is installed just plain works. You have a deep background with programming, and the ability to work with some of this stuff. I had two Palm's and a Win Mobile PDA. Things drove me nuts, I just want it to work. I have never had to reinstall or reconfigure my iPod yet.

As the iPad and iPod gain traction in the enterprise world, maybe things will change. Having the app store makes them a content provider, and weights them down with all the baggage that goes with it. Somebody is not going to get what they want. Look how long the Beatles saga played out. Now they are selling like crazy.

At the end of the day I want someone to have a tablet - wifi - usb platform that will accept some software that will run the layout. As long as it works and grows with new features, does not matter who it comes from.

So with all that, when are you going to build your software for the Android OS 2.5 Tablets? BigGrin



r/Thomas

Edited by user 20 January 2011 23:22:21(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#35 Posted : 19 January 2011 20:56:56(UTC)
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The trouble with the Droids is that hardware screen size/resolution is a factor that has to be customised in the Droid OS's for each hardware setup... Son has a HTC Wildfire, and had to wait for an Android 2.2 update for weeks after it was released for the HTC Legend - which has the same hardware as the Wildfire, except the display...

The iPhones/iPods/iPads from Apple seem to have a more generic attitude relation to the graphics hardware...


Sorry for drifting off topic...Blushing
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#36 Posted : 19 January 2011 21:11:46(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GSRR Go to Quoted Post

So with all that, when are you going to build your software for the Android OS 2.5 Tablets? BigGrin


I have an even better idea actually... but I wont disclose it yet...
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#37 Posted : 19 January 2011 21:22:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: graafjp Go to Quoted Post
Well, I was curious so downloaded the app to my iPad.

Unfortunately the only message I get is "not connected to a CS2"

CS2 (60214)=140 + GFP 1.36

As I can view the help pages of my CS2 on the iPad the network connection is working.

So perhaps some update is needed on the CS2 side??

As the App is only one day old I think I have to 'wait and see'..



on the link it said CS2 V 1.4
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#38 Posted : 19 January 2011 21:26:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GSRR Go to Quoted Post

So with all that, when are you going to build your software for the Android OS 2.5 Tablets? BigGrin


I have an even better idea actually... but I wont disclose it yet...



Ok. I'm not to far north of you, maybe I can visit your secret laboratory sometime? BigGrin

Whatever you are working on hopefully it comes to fruition.


r/Thomas


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#39 Posted : 19 January 2011 21:41:53(UTC)
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The trouble with the Droids is that hardware screen size/resolution is a factor that has to be customised in the Droid OS's for each hardware setup... Son has a HTC Wildfire, and had to wait for an Android 2.2 update for weeks after it was released for the HTC Legend - which has the same hardware as the Wildfire, except the display...

The iPhones/iPods/iPads from Apple seem to have a more generic attitude relation to the graphics hardware...


Sorry for drifting off topic...Blushing



Well we are sort of dancing around the main topic. The Android platform has a lot of potential, is selling well, and the OS 2.5 Tablet version is coming soon I believe. But Juhan has a valid point, which turns off developers of small scale (customer sales) software applications. Android allows a large amount of variation in the OS, unlike Apple.

It's hard enough to get Marklin to stick with updates on a regular schedule that customers desire with a product and OS they control completely. I can't imagine they are ready to jump into the Android free for all anytime soon?

Do TouchCab, iRoc, +SmartHand, and WiThrottle have android versions? I know TouchCab does not. And I believe iTrains is working on an Apple app, but not Android.


The key for me is portability. I'm not tied to buying a legacy device that is closed, cannot be upgraded easily, and is unusable for any other purpose. Instead I have an every day appliance, a PDA, a tablet, a netbook that along with other uses can be used for those times when I need it to to control the layout. And if that device becomes obsolete or fries itself, I get a new one and reinstall the application.





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#40 Posted : 20 January 2011 09:43:30(UTC)
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Have iphone 4 with TouchCab just makes controlling another loco as well as my cs and moble stations, I'm happy. Cool
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#41 Posted : 20 January 2011 19:09:54(UTC)
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BigGrin Just downloaded app to my Ipad...not working yet, but sounds like a great idea! I am also waiting--let us know if anyone figures it out.Confused
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#42 Posted : 20 January 2011 23:20:02(UTC)
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If you have downloaded the Maerklin app and it does not work please take the time in iTunes to report a problem, and place some comments on the app page.

Need to get M* attention.

http://itunes.apple.com/...station/id412624304?mt=8



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#43 Posted : 21 January 2011 10:32:59(UTC)
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If you have downloaded the Maerklin app and it does not work please take the time in iTunes to report a problem, and place some comments on the app page.



Apparently, the CS2 needs an update to work with the iphone remote app. A CS2 update has been placed on the Marklin update site - there is no change to the version number - 1.4.0 (1) / TFP 1.36.

This post was posted today to the Marklin Bar and Grill by Dr Tom Catherall of Marklin USA:




"On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Thomas Catherall wrote:

> I have used the app on both my iPod touch and iPad and they work
> great. This is the way to introduce a wireless. Just charge $6 for
> the app and use equipment you might already have. I have an iPod and
> IPad but no iPhone. If you don't have an iPod touch you can get one
> for about $80.
>
> You have to download the latest update from Marklin to your Central
> Station.
> They have made some adjustments as of Thursday afternoon. But it is
> still 1.4.0
>
> All you have to do Sean, to connect, is to have a wireless server
> that you can connect to the Central Station.I already had wireless so
> I connected an ethernet cable from it to the CS2.
> Set the Central Station up with the "Setup" menu and click on the
> wrench so you get the IP submenu
>
> There set an IP address if one is not there. I use 192.168.0.77 and
> it works fine
> check the gateway box and select "Automatic" then save.
>
> Then your iPad will talk through your wireless server which is
> connected to the CS2. At first when you activate the app it will
> connect to the CS2 and download the locos you have registered on the
> CS2 to the app.
>
> You cannot create locos on the iPad/iPod/iPhone. You only get what
> you have on the CS2. You also get all the keyboards, loco functions
> and pictures of locos.
>
> I don't know if there is a limit to the number of locos. There is a
> string of them at the bottom of the screen, and you can stream
> through them
>
> Have fun, Tom Catherall"
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#44 Posted : 23 January 2011 15:18:23(UTC)
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Hey I have an Iphone can't get it to work
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#45 Posted : 23 January 2011 16:50:01(UTC)
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Hey I have an Iphone can't get it to work



Can you provide a little more detail?

Is it a an iPhone 3GS or 4?
Does it have iOS 4.2.x?
Did you update your CS2 since Friday with the new CS2 update?
Have you configured your CS2 with a WAP or Router?

If it's yes to all then you should hit the report a problem tab in iTunes for this app.


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Offline Piper  
#46 Posted : 23 January 2011 17:23:48(UTC)
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BigGrin
This iPhone App is quite good. I tested it on both iPhone & iPad. Both works works well, however only one at a time. It uploads locos and points automatically and if you changes anything on the CS2 for a loco like the icon it loads straight away on iPhone.Cool

iPhone is 3GS with 4.2 iOS
CS2 is version 1.4, updated yesterday.

BTW you also have to enter the iPhone IP address on CS2 under IP setup.

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#47 Posted : 23 January 2011 19:58:40(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Piper Go to Quoted Post
BigGrin
... Both works works well, however only one at a time.

Pieter


Hi Pieter,

I have not been able to test this.

Do you make this comment because of the fact that there is only one address that can be entered for the CS2s gateway address?

Have you tried setting this address to the subnets broadcast address (e.g. last field = 255 if the mask is 255.255.255.0)

Note: I know it is not "best practice" but in a closed domestic environment it might be tolerated.

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#48 Posted : 23 January 2011 20:20:00(UTC)
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Peter, the broadcast address for the network in your example would be 192.168.1.255
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#49 Posted : 23 January 2011 20:30:04(UTC)
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Look on your iPhone what address it uses connecting to your WiFi router and type it in Destination address. I think the subnet should be 255.255.255.0.

Good luck

Pieter

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Offline clapcott  
#50 Posted : 23 January 2011 20:35:30(UTC)
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Thanks, corrected
Peter

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#51 Posted : 23 January 2011 20:43:29(UTC)
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Pieter, the gateway address you are referring to is normally used for the router that connects your network to any external networks, such as the internet, or another subnet in a large corporate environment. As such the router is aware of all the devices that are on your local subnet, including multiple iphones, and there is not normally any need to change this.

If you are not connected to another network and do not have a router, then the gateway address is normally left blank. Devices then usually find each other by way of a broadcast. In other words, the CS2's networking stack should be able to learn the addresses of all and any devices including multiple iphones. There should be no need to enter the iphone'c tcpip address into the CS2's gateway address field.

The term 'Destination Address' refers to the device that is the exit point, or gateway as we call it, for your local network, not the iphone's return address.
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#52 Posted : 23 January 2011 20:44:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Piper Go to Quoted Post

I tested it on both iPhone & iPad. Both works works well, however only one at a time.

Pieter





Peter,

By your question, are you attempting to have two devices, an iPad, and an iPhone both with the app installed, have access to the CS2 at the same time? Say to control separate booster sections? Is this feasible?


r/Thomas


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#53 Posted : 23 January 2011 20:45:07(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Piper Go to Quoted Post
Peter

Look on your iPhone what address it uses connecting to your WiFi router and type it in Destination address. I think the subnet should be 255.255.255.0.

Good luck

Pieter


Pieter, Yes I understand that for ONE SPECIFIC unit.

What I am saying is that by changing the address to the broadcast address (192.168.2.255 in your case) you MAY be able to use more than one device at a time.

I have not had two devices to play with at the same time so this is only a suggestion. I do know that from a PC I can receive the UDP data.
Peter

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#54 Posted : 23 January 2011 20:53:55(UTC)
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Yes Dave, I understand your description of a Gateway in the network sense, but in the CS2 Marklin sense it is different.
Peter

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#55 Posted : 23 January 2011 21:18:06(UTC)
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... but in the CS2 Marklin sense it is different.



In what regard?
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#56 Posted : 23 January 2011 21:48:38(UTC)
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Quote:

Pieter, Yes I understand that for ONE SPECIFIC unit.

What I am saying is that by changing the address to the broadcast address (192.168.2.255 in your case) you MAY be able to use more than one device at a time.

I have not had two devices to play with at the same time so this is only a suggestion. I do know that from a PC I can receive the UDP data.


Thanks Peter,
Crying Tried it but it doesn't work. The CS2 is sending info to that IP address and receives info from it. Look at the information screen. It even shows the amount of battery power remaining.

Pieter

Fixed the quote /FS

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Offline eduard71  
#57 Posted : 24 January 2011 01:56:09(UTC)
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Hi people-1,
I just tested the app on my Ipod, and it works perfect!! it is great, the Ipod and the CS2 are connected via my router. You get control of all your locomotives in the database of your CS2. I can tell you people, this is very good and only for 6$, of course if you already have an Ipod touch or an Iphone, and this are expensive gadgets.
Follow the instructions of Pieter, it is important to use the same IP adress of the Ipod on the destination address of the CS2. The IP of the Ipod -Iphone can be seen on settings- wi-fi, choose a network.

Regards
Eduardo
Offline AJ  
#58 Posted : 24 January 2011 06:16:01(UTC)
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Hello all,

tried it out and it works, awesome stuff. Had to upgrade the CS2 again as mentioned by the others. It worked from my iPad and iPhone4, the former being more handy.

Catch however is that my wi-fi router sits next to my NAS on top of a bookshelf so plugging my CS2 into the router is no mean task.Unsure So question now is what convenient access point to use for plugging the CS2 so it can get an IP address. Suggestions are welcome? Does the CS2 take a wireless dongle, I have a spare Linksys wireless-n usb dongle but not sure if that will work on the CS2, maybe worth a try!

Alok

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#59 Posted : 24 January 2011 10:15:12(UTC)
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Hi Peter
Real cool great way to combine two great products
marklin and Ipod to make a fun way of operation
I can see Dion loving this and he could probally answer the
issue of what wireless device could be plugged direct
into a CS2, as there is a lot of wireless USB devices Now
see the dse.co.nz website , the critical issue would be does
the marklin upgrade include drivers to operate a usb wireless port.
I'll ask him and see what he says
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#60 Posted : 24 January 2011 16:48:20(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: AJ Go to Quoted Post
Hello all,

tried it out and it works, awesome stuff. Had to upgrade the CS2 again as mentioned by the others. It worked from my iPad and iPhone4, the former being more handy.

Catch however is that my wi-fi router sits next to my NAS on top of a bookshelf so plugging my CS2 into the router is no mean task.Unsure So question now is what convenient access point to use for plugging the CS2 so it can get an IP address. Suggestions are welcome? Does the CS2 take a wireless dongle, I have a spare Linksys wireless-n usb dongle but not sure if that will work on the CS2, maybe worth a try!

Alok



Does any know if there is a wireless router that can connect to another wireless router? My problems is that my router is downstairs at the front of the house and the layout is upstairs at the back and there is no cables running though the house. or would it be better to try a cross over cable to connect the CS to a laptop then connect to the net work or can the CS see the network through the computer, like a printer does.
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Offline Webmaster  
#61 Posted : 24 January 2011 19:03:25(UTC)
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Darrin, I don't know if this helps but I have 2 NetGear WNDR3700 that I link together over the 802.11a radio band... One in my son's room that is merely a "slave", providing 4 Ethernet ports for him and a 121 Mbps wireless link to the "master" router that handles the Internet connection, the 802.11b/g general wireless at home, DCHP to the home network and such...

For the "train room", and other rooms I have "Powerline" connections (also with 4 Ethernet ports) which use the household electrical cabling. They ones I got have a bit of lower speed (about 10 Mbps effectively) but good enough for the CS1 connected to it, while using the iPod Touch (w TouchCab) on the 802.11b/g wireless network. Works seamlessly and is fast...

Son had "Powerline" connection in his room too earlier, but when we got a 100Mbps Internet connection via fibre cable, he wanted more speed too... So he now get about 60Mbps effectively over the wireless link, which is more than enough for streaming videos and such. I myself sit with cable into our 1Gbps "home backbone", of course...

Sounds to me that you could maybe also investigate a "Powerline" option for connecting the CS...
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Offline klytz  
#62 Posted : 29 January 2011 17:58:37(UTC)
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Hi guys

My iPhone 3G won't work either withe the CS2. I find it rather annoying that Märklin in the app refers to a helpsite which has not been updated: "It will be eventually." That is not the way to treat customers of their system and their app.
Kind regards from Denmark
Klaus
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Offline Piper  
#63 Posted : 03 February 2011 19:50:10(UTC)
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Love Hooray!!!!!

With latest CS2 update, 1.5.2, I can now use both iPhone & iPad simultaneously. I also updated my routers to a Billion Bipac 7402GX 3g/ADSL & a Billion Bipac 3200G as an access point in the train room.

I could update the CS2 via the WiFi link between the 2 routers. Laugh This is fantastic. I love it when a plan comes together.

As a good friend recently said, "Good technology is GREAT - The opposite is NOT TRUE".Cool

Pieter

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Offline steventrain  
#64 Posted : 06 February 2011 08:51:39(UTC)
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#65 Posted : 08 February 2011 09:15:53(UTC)
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Where can I get the latest update for the CS 2 so I can use my iPad? Also, I know this has been answered but I am still unsure about a wireless router that is distant from my CS 2. I have a computer with a wireless USB unit attached next to my computer. This unit allows that computer to connect to the internet. Will this combo work for me if I connect a cable from the computer internet port to the internet port on the CS 2. If so, what are the settings that I will need on the CS 2 or is it only the iPad IP address that I need?

Sean
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#66 Posted : 08 February 2011 10:13:24(UTC)
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If you are unable to update your CS2 directly from the internet, then you will have to wait for the downloadable file to be placed on the Marklin website. This usually happens several weeks after the internet update is released. Currently 1.4.0 is the version available. The downloadable file is placed on a USB flash drive, and the flash drive is plugged into the CS2's USB port. You can then initiate an update from the CS2's setup screen, pointing to the file on the USB stick.


http://www.maerklin.de/d...ds/software_updates.html


If you perform the internet update, you will need to either plug your CS2 into the wireless router or an ethernet switch that is connected to your router. You cannot daisy chain your CS2 via your PC.
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#67 Posted : 08 February 2011 18:18:58(UTC)
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Hi Sean

What you suggest is very fiddly and might workAngry . I think David is right & the easiest way is to get a router that can use the USB internet connection thing and has wireless capability. So you plug the USB internet thing in the USB port of the router and plug the CS2 in the wired port of the router. The Ipad and the PC connect with WiFi to the router.

Now you can connect the PC, the Ipad & the CS2 to the internet. You can update the CS2 whenever you want to. Connect also the PC & iPad to the internet. In a nutshell everything can connect to everything.BigGrin BigGrin

After updating the CS2 to the latest version and getting the new Märklin iPad software you have a very nice iPad mobile station.

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Offline NZMarklinist  
#68 Posted : 26 April 2012 08:48:02(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Ranjit Go to Quoted Post
Not for me, thank you!

The future of Apple is uncertain, and God knows where iPhone will be in such a stiff competitive environment.

Cheers,
Ranjit


I agree with you,Ranjit!
Why to use an mobilphone,when you have already CS2...??? ThumbDown
I think that it has to do about to satisfaction techno-nerd,who wants to play technology more instead...
Pathetical...

LOL


Goofy, All,
If nothing else, I find using my I Thingy excellent for positioning (staging) Loks, or rolling stock, for that matter, when taking photos for this forum. Often the CS is not within easy reach, but whilst I use Touchcab and CS1-R, the pricipal is the same. ThumpUp
When I have mastered my new Camera I'll be well pleased BigGrin (and then there will be quite a few few photo's to upload Wink )
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