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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#1 Posted : 24 January 2011 20:44:54(UTC)
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In the last year or two Märklin has issued retro items from the 1960's/1970's in the blue boxes that were in use at that time. Some items (E03's come to mind) were newer technology items, but issued in a blue box, but other items are from the tooling in use in that period. This trend seemed to start in conjunction with Märklin's 150th birthday.

So far we have had

30159 SBB Ce 6/8 Crocodile - 1996 Insider Model
2009 Museum Car
2009 Magazine Club wagon kit 'Ford'.
28950 Le Capitole Set
30210 V200
00796 Tin Plate Coach set
37574 E03 Triple Set
37629 Union Pacific F7
30050 Br23
26490 Blue Bird Alco PA1 set.

We also had the 31859 / 31860 set of 3 Crocodiles, but they did not come in a blue box.


Are these items something you find appealing, and want to buy? Or do you see them as just another sales gimmick?


If you like them, which other items would you want to see Märklin produce. A 30470 Br44 perhaps, or maybe a 30150 Crocodile?

Edited by user 26 January 2011 09:01:21(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Offline alonso231gery  
#2 Posted : 24 January 2011 20:55:12(UTC)
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Personally i really do not like these boxes, i am not that old to be sentimentally attached to these kind of boxes, i really like the greenish colour of the first digital locos or sets, but since most clients of M are that old, i guess they will like it so M will continue to produce more overpriced items in these boxes...
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Offline RayF  
#3 Posted : 24 January 2011 21:04:05(UTC)
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I like the items, but prefer to get an original of that item on ebay. Mostly they are readily available and usually cheaper than the "replicas".
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Offline Jeremy Palmer  
#4 Posted : 24 January 2011 21:14:29(UTC)
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Hmm,

Interesting question. I simply wanted a cross section of Marklin items and I quite liked the idea of a few being in retro boxes. I got a couple of
items on your list but not just because of the boxes they came in. Added appeal I guess.

30210.
37629. (Didn't know about box).

(I would have liked the E 03 triple set but Madam had found out about a certain purchase of Kroc sets and was mighty unhappy to say the least. The colours of a certain room on offer are beginning to be mighty appealing).

I would have to say I would buy a 3015 Kroc though.

Cheers David, hope all well,

Jeremy.

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Offline klarinettmeister  
#5 Posted : 24 January 2011 21:26:04(UTC)
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I prefer the new boxes simply because I´ve got alot more of them, but as I´ve ordered the Blue Bird I´ll buy one in the replika boxes wether I like it or not.
Offline TimR  
#6 Posted : 24 January 2011 21:28:18(UTC)
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Personally, I have no interest in older Marklins, even less so of these overpriced retro re-release.

I thought that the original Croc 31859 was a good idea, considering second hand value of these old crocs was sky high... but at the current rate, Marklin is really pushing its luck... 30210? 30050?
If I were interested in these older items, I would have bought the real thing for much, much cheaper (with equally greater sentimental value due to their age).
I'm not surprised if we see a 3008 replica next year.

I'd like to see Marklin to show that it is a company that looks ahead to its future (keep building better and better models), instead of trying to remind people of its glorious past.

I hate to think that this is a long term strategy, and I think to reuse your old tooling (technically: obsolete) is quite a distraction from continuing the Marklin "Innovation".
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Offline dntower85  
#7 Posted : 24 January 2011 21:30:57(UTC)
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I really like the old art work. The fact that someone was paid to paint an item and give it something more than what a photo could depict is something special that does not exist today.
All though with today's highly detailed models I would want to see a real photo of it before I deiced to buy it.

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Offline steventrain  
#8 Posted : 24 January 2011 21:35:30(UTC)
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Hi Dave, The missing was two not on list.

2009 Club wagon kit 'Ford'.

2011 new items 26490 Blue Bird set.

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#9 Posted : 24 January 2011 21:41:12(UTC)
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Thanks Stephen, I've updated the list.
Offline Ranjit  
#10 Posted : 25 January 2011 02:00:31(UTC)
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Hi David,

I love them! I already have the 30210, and I plan to get the 00796 this year.

Cheers,
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Offline seatrains  
#11 Posted : 25 January 2011 04:37:42(UTC)
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I love them. I have a 30159 and would like to find a Le Capitole. Call me old fashioned. If I am not mistaken Lionel and MTH, javascript:insertsmiley('Love ','/forum/Images/Emoticons/msp_love.gif')both have made reproduction vintage loks and cars a big part of their business.
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Offline Oscar  
#12 Posted : 25 January 2011 06:15:04(UTC)
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I like it that Märklin is putting out these models, though I would not buy the ones that are true replicas of older models such as the 3005, 3021 or the Capitole set. The replicas allow present-day digital railroaders to experience vintage Märklin without having to modify the original models. But I think the new models, the ones that were not released back in the day, that are most interesting. An example would be the Bluebird set - I love the packaging and the style of that model, but it is NOT a replica. Instead it is a new Märklin era-III model with lots of bells and whistles but they decided to package it in the style of era III, which is great. I wonder how many they'll sell though, I mean I can buy lots of other stuff for the 900 euros or so they charge for it....
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#13 Posted : 25 January 2011 09:24:28(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: seatrains Go to Quoted Post
...and would like to find a Le Capitole. Call me old fashioned.



Thom, especially for you:

http://cgi.ebay.com/2859...&hash=item35aaaa2d45
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#14 Posted : 25 January 2011 09:26:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Oscar Go to Quoted Post
I wonder how many they'll sell though....



Oscar, the Bluebird is a limited edition, limited (we think) to 999 units (although the Marklin Product database says 1999).
Offline Frankenbahner  
#15 Posted : 25 January 2011 10:12:20(UTC)
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I'm not buying an item just because of the box. I'm buying it because I'm interested in the model.

A few years ago, an Italian firm produced heavily overprized replica boxes for older Märklin stuff, which were sold on model train fairs in Germany and the Netherlands. They finally had to stop the sale of their replica boxes due to copyright problems. I just wondered about people who were willing to pay 50 € or more just for a cardboard box with a styrofoam inlay....as there are many other things one can buy for that money....

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Offline DamonKelly  
#16 Posted : 25 January 2011 14:34:22(UTC)
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Personally, I don't really care much about the box. I do remember the "blue boxes" from the 60's, but I'm only really interested in what's inside them.
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Offline Deborail  
#17 Posted : 25 January 2011 14:53:17(UTC)
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Yes, like I said in another post, I did order 3 of the 00796 set (1,2 and 3) from a guy in ebay....I can't buy the whole set at this time....
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Offline danielu  
#18 Posted : 25 January 2011 14:53:35(UTC)
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Just as Damon, I not going to buy a train set (blue bird) because it's in a blue box, it's the model that interest me. Personally I find the blue boxes have a nicer design then the gray once, but box is a box BigGrin .

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Offline john black  
#19 Posted : 25 January 2011 16:01:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: alonso231gery Go to Quoted Post

... but since most clients of M are that old

Guess ya had a clown for breakfast TongueUserPostedImage

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Offline alonso231gery  
#20 Posted : 25 January 2011 16:07:44(UTC)
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Offline john black  
#21 Posted : 25 January 2011 16:17:45(UTC)
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BigD - congratulations, my friend. Great poll on our classic blue boxes !!! ThumpUp
And since they are classic marklins with a soul *) of course I'll buy more than just two or three Laugh

So far: #30050, 30210, 37629, 37227, 00796, 45644 (M should add the wonderful box also to that Gator)
Wish list: #30470, 30480. And many more. Basically they could revive lots of their 1960s program ...

Gives 'em additional cash - and collectors of classics the opportunity of their life.
However - thank Doc Pluta the world's top maker of MRR has found back to its roots.


*) Terminus technicus by our Great Alberto Pedrini Cool

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Offline Webmaster  
#22 Posted : 25 January 2011 18:43:57(UTC)
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I'd love if M could go back to the blue boxes with the "speedy" graphic representation of the model, the modern stereotype white or grey boxes are just plain boring... And I love the big Märklin text on the boxes - then you know your are buying the "real thing"...

Would certainly be more visible on dealer shelves too... And much more "inspiring" maybe also to our youngsters...

Edited by user 25 January 2011 20:03:49(UTC)  | Reason: splellinng

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Offline john black  
#23 Posted : 25 January 2011 18:53:36(UTC)
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Great points, Sir ThumpUp

Edited by user 25 January 2011 19:38:52(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Offline Webmaster  
#24 Posted : 25 January 2011 20:12:02(UTC)
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John, seen through my old man's eyes - one reason for youngsters not to think the M products are "cool" is actually the boring packaging of today... If the boxes had been as imaginative as in the 60's, you get some kind of expectation by just looking at the box.

That feeling is certainly missing with the modern boxes of today, you see a white or grey box with some kind of sterile drawing or you see the wagon model itself through a plastic window...

The box design means more for mental advertising than you think...
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Offline john black  
#25 Posted : 25 January 2011 20:34:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Webmaster Go to Quoted Post

John ... a white or grey box with some kind of sterile drawing ...

Right, Juhan ... simply embarrassing ... LOLLOLLOL

And totally inadequate for locos with a several hundred euro price tag.
Look sells. Even $20 cellphones have more eye friendly boxes and manuals.
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Offline john black  
#26 Posted : 25 January 2011 21:31:29(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Webmaster Go to Quoted Post

Seen through my old man's eyes - boxes as imaginative as in the 60's you get some kind of expectation
by just looking at the box. The box design means more for mental advertising than you think ...

And again I do agree, my friend ... something I longed so much for - but never could afford when a boy.
So today (as another old man) Cool - it's buying time, hehe ... LaughSneakyThumpUp
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Offline steventrain  
#27 Posted : 25 January 2011 21:34:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Oscar Go to Quoted Post
I wonder how many they'll sell though....



Oscar, the Bluebird is a limited edition, limited (we think) to 999 units (although the Marklin Product database says 1999).



I have reply from Marklin that 26490 should correct 1,999 set.

There is a error in the brochure.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#28 Posted : 25 January 2011 22:16:15(UTC)
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Thanks Stephen. 1999 it is.

I think our Webmaster and Captain John have touched on why I like the blue box designs. Apart from being the boxes that Marklin came in when I was a kid (and not able to afford everything I would have liked), I think the graphics are way better than today's boxes, and are really classic pieces of Marklin art. Of course, the same graphics design was used in the catalogs of the 1960's. Also, for collectors, an item is worth more if it comes with a box (especially a mint box) than without a box.

Many people have a theme around which they collect things, for example, one member in our Marklin club likes to collect Marklin items made in 1952, as that was the year he was born. For me, I want to start a collection of items that is based around the blue box theme. So far all I have is a 3065 V60 and the 30210 V200 and the Marklin museum car from 2009. I also have some TEE tinplate and other tinplate coaches, which is not much, but it is a start.

So while I will not be buying the Bluebird set, I will look to buy the 30050 Br23 and maybe the UP F7. I'd love to get a mint 3047/3027 and 3048 in the blue boxes as well. And who knows what Marklin will (re) release in the future.
Offline cookee_nz  
#29 Posted : 25 January 2011 23:16:57(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: john black Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: alonso231gery Go to Quoted Post

... but since most clients of M are that old

Guess ya had a clown for breakfast TongueUserPostedImage



I think we can do with a new poll - "At what age exactly do others consider someone to be OLD"?

Reminds me of the popular bumper sticker seen on cars driven by spotty-faced little blow-hards with pubic hair glued on their faces.... "If it's too loud, you're too old" - I'd insult them back but they're not smart enough to get it.

(Someone will know a good come-back for that sticker by the way)

So for me, I'm YOUNG at 54, still think like an 18yo with the benefit of experience to guide my impulses.

I like the style of the replica Blue Box items, I don't have any yet, but I'd be happy to, especially the 10-coach set, 00796. I'd like to see a similar style freight set with popular wagons from the same era.

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#30 Posted : 25 January 2011 23:23:11(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Go to Quoted Post
(Someone will know a good come-back for that sticker by the way)



Probably something to do with said spotty-faced little blow-hards with pubic hair glued on their faces not being old enough to see over the windscreen might be appropriate!

"At least I can see over the windscreen sonny!", or "At least I can afford my car!"
Offline alonso231gery  
#31 Posted : 25 January 2011 23:24:21(UTC)
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Ok ok ok my apologies gentlemen, i mean older than me. Blushing Blushing Razz
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Offline john black  
#32 Posted : 25 January 2011 23:27:35(UTC)
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Well said, my friend ... LOLThumpUp
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Offline john black  
#33 Posted : 25 January 2011 23:41:21(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Go to Quoted Post

coach set 00796 ... I'd like to see a similar style freight set with popular wagons from the same era.

No problem, Steve - that brand new (era III) freight set #45644 oughta be your ticket ... ThumpUp
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#34 Posted : 26 January 2011 08:58:54(UTC)
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It seems that the 30159 Crocodile talked about in another thread also came in a retro style box.

Bigdaddynz attached the following image(s):
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Offline vilithejou  
#35 Posted : 26 January 2011 09:21:06(UTC)
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It's also retro box
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Offline Alberto Pedrini  
#36 Posted : 26 January 2011 10:00:41(UTC)
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Offline Caboose  
#37 Posted : 26 January 2011 10:29:55(UTC)
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Just love these blue boxes. Both old and the new retro-boxes.
But an old blue box in bad condition is not so nice i think.
So i prefer a new retro-box or an old box in nice condition.

However, i like most the blue boxes with the old M logotype
in capital MARKLIN. These boxes were made to around 1973.
The newer blue boxes with the new marklin-logo is not so nice.

NOTE: Some of the new retroboxes has the old colour style,
but the new marklin-logo. Not so nice. (Example 28590).

But some has luckyly "full-retro-style" with the old MARKLIN logoBigGrin

Look at these boxes and see the big different.
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Offline Alberto Pedrini  
#38 Posted : 26 January 2011 10:33:12(UTC)
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Overpriced? Yes I think.
Buy on Ebay used? No thanks, too many tarots, false, repaint & destroied. Unsure
After ten years of search I can say that Original items in good conditions, bought directly by the seller are rara avis.
So why not buy an "original old model by Märklin" new in box perfect?
However, to tell the truth, it isn't the same as an old item, that shoulders sixty years.
Different smell, and story, of course. Smile
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Offline steventrain  
#39 Posted : 26 January 2011 13:37:38(UTC)
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#40 Posted : 26 January 2011 20:55:18(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
It seems that the 30159 Crocodile talked about in another thread also came in a retro style box.

Well, it's more like a kinda "hybrid" box - but much nicer with a graphic on the outer sleeve than plain white... The box "mechanics" is the nowadays one...

Even if the innards of a box is the same, with that plastic insert of today - I would prefer to just open a lid, and not have to pull the inner box out of the sleeve..
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Offline MilesT  
#41 Posted : 26 January 2011 21:02:49(UTC)
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Good poll BD

Blue box or bust has been my collecting attitude over the course of the last year, but maybe I should say tinplate or bust. My collection stems from the late 50's to early 70's. I am really just nostalgic for the Märklin that I grew up with. I initially looked at but decided I have no interest in digital, so now I try and locate what I am looking for through auction sites. You can still find some pretty good deals if you know what you are looking for and are patient. I have no interest in current Märklin items, retro or not. My father has purchased a few of the "new" white/gray box wagons and loco's and they just don't compare to the Märklin of old (for both of us), so much so that I am going to be selling all of our newer sets. I know that the details are much nicer on the newer units, but so what? I can't see any details as the trains are running by anyway and any guests that come by just see cool model trains. The other reasons to own modern would be for digital stuff, which (no offense) people seem to have lots of problems with. There is a certain satisfaction you get from setting up a complicated analogue environment and watching it work for you. Additionally, I like being able to troubleshoot an analogue loco on my own without having to involve any other parties. In the end though, the box matters not, just what is inside it. My .02 cents.
Regards,

Selim

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Offline petestra  
#42 Posted : 26 January 2011 21:08:37(UTC)
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As an analogue operator I picked "I wish they never stopped making them". No, I'm not stuck in the past but I could not go thru the expense of converting to digital. I also wish that they had never stopped making the original catenary as well.
Cheers,PeterSmile
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#43 Posted : 26 January 2011 21:29:13(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: petestra Go to Quoted Post
I also wish that they had never stopped making the original catenary as well.



You can still get masts for the old style catenary, Electrotren make them, and you can get them from the Eurolokshop for $1.50 USD each. Electrotren also made the old style wires for a while (half of my catenary is Electrotren wires), but they are now making newer style wires, which they claim can be used with their old style masts.


www.eurolokshop.com
Offline jeehring  
#44 Posted : 26 January 2011 22:00:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alberto Pedrini Go to Quoted Post
Overpriced? Yes I think.
Buy on Ebay used? No thanks, too many tarots, false, repaint & destroied. Unsure
After ten years of search I can say that Original items in good conditions, bought directly by the seller are rara avis.
So why not buy an "original old model by Märklin" new in box perfect?
However, to tell the truth, it isn't the same as an old item, that shoulders sixty years.
Different smell, and story, of course. Smile


....all is said ! ( about "too many false " on e-bay, for sure ! .....once upon a time there were a business of replicas of Marklin empty boxes .....)

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Offline petestra  
#45 Posted : 26 January 2011 22:06:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: petestra Go to Quoted Post
I also wish that they had never stopped making the original catenary as well.



You can still get masts for the old style catenary, Electrotren make them, and you can get them from the Eurolokshop for $1.50 USD each. Electrotren also made the old style wires for a while (half of my catenary is Electrotren wires), but they are now making newer style wires, which they claim can be used with their old style masts.


www.eurolokshop.com



Thanks for the info but yes, I already knew that and I bought 30x masts from them last year. They are OK and will get the job done but their (Electrotren) assortment of overhead wires is strongly lacking. Cheers,Peter
Offline TimR  
#46 Posted : 26 January 2011 22:40:17(UTC)
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About the pricing of some of these items..
Yes, Marklin probably priced them with quite hefty profit margin - but it's probably also a necessity.

I think production cost of many of these items would've been higher than it is for them to produce the newer items.

We're talking about Marklin picking up old toolings that they haven't touch for probably as many as 40 years.
Since then, manufacturing process would have constantly evolve as they attempt to refine and maximize efficiency of production for your newest and latest products - which almost certainly means they're no longer compatible to how you did things 40 years ago.

Making room to re-introduce these old items thus also carried signifcant risk - which in turn demanded the higher price.
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Offline john black  
#47 Posted : 26 January 2011 23:17:55(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Alberto Pedrini Go to Quoted Post

Don't forget this replica LoveWub

Right, my friend - loverly, indeed Love
... and then there was that two-trains tinplate set #50 (though no old box, alas)
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Offline Jeremy Palmer  
#48 Posted : 26 January 2011 23:28:04(UTC)
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David,

Thank you so much for posting that picture of 30159. That was very considerate of you and much appreciated by Carol.

I trust you have hot water bottles?

Jeremy.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#49 Posted : 26 January 2011 23:54:10(UTC)
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I trust you have hot water bottles?



No, but I can get some.
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#50 Posted : 27 January 2011 01:24:26(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Jeremy Palmer Go to Quoted Post
David,

Thank you so much for posting that picture of 30159. That was very considerate of you and much appreciated by Carol.

I trust you have hot water bottles?

Jeremy.



Electric Blankets are Better.

NN
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Offline AshleyH  
#51 Posted : 27 January 2011 10:28:13(UTC)
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Well, I already voted on the poll, but now it's crunch time!

I have just enough money for one new Marklin loco this month, on my radar are either a 39110 which is loco of the month and around Euro 180 ( I LOVE softdrive sinus and don't have an E10/E40 yet) or I could by a 30210 before they are finally sold out.

Decisions, decisions.........
Offline john black  
#52 Posted : 27 January 2011 11:30:56(UTC)
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Nice. Adding the votes on pro-choices #1, 3 and 4 - we end up with 48% positive for the blue boxes ... ThumpUp
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#53 Posted : 27 January 2011 20:28:16(UTC)
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No one voted #2 though.......WinkWink
Offline steventrain  
#54 Posted : 27 January 2011 20:45:04(UTC)
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I note there is more that one vote per member.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#55 Posted : 27 January 2011 22:09:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
I note there is more that one vote per member.


I made the poll multi choice, as I knew that people may have more than 1 reason for liking or disliking these items.
Offline rrf  
#56 Posted : 28 January 2011 21:22:20(UTC)
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Hello,

I think the old style boxes are a nice touch. But it's really the old style models that excite me. The 24 cm tin plate coaches are awesome ... just like the ones I bought as a kid. They are perfect on the anlog sections of my layout where everything is pretty much old style construction.

I love the look and feel of the 30210 ... the little bycicle logo is so cool! When I opened the model up, I was really happy with what I found: an old school motor with an MFX decoder. Granted there are benifits to the new motor technologies. However, I wonder if 20 years from now I'll be scavanging the used motor market trying to find a replacement for one of my c-sine loks. One thing's for sure, I will always be able to service/rebuild the 30210Smile

Bye,
Rob
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Offline steventrain  
#57 Posted : 28 January 2011 21:26:25(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
I note there is more that one vote per member.


I made the poll multi choice, as I knew that people may have more than 1 reason for liking or disliking these items.


OK, Thanks.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#58 Posted : 28 January 2011 21:26:35(UTC)
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You're dead right there Rob, you have summed up exactly why I like the digitised old school DCM/LFCM/SFCM motors.
Offline rrf  
#59 Posted : 28 January 2011 21:47:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
You're dead right there Rob, you have summed up exactly why I like the digitised old school DCM/LFCM/SFCM motors.


I'm having this exact problem right now with my other hobby/addiction: RC model warhship combat.

I standardized all of my size/weight constrained ships (Cruisers mostly) on these wonderful Maxon motors I found about eight years ago. The Maxons are small, don't weigh that much and have an incredibly low power draw under load. Which means I can use smaller/lighter batteries in the ship models (read: more weight/room for cannons, ball bearings & CO2).

Anyway, after countless sinkings some of these Maxon motors are starting to have bearing problems ... no suprise there. Locating suitable replacements of the same size and power rating has turned out to be a lot more difficult that I anticipated. Heck, just interrepting Maxon part numbers and their meaning seems to be a science onto itselfSad
Rob
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Offline john black  
#60 Posted : 28 January 2011 22:11:09(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post

No one voted #2 though ... WinkWink

Good one, BigD LOLLOLLOL ... #2 is reserved for Super-Duper-Insiders-Who-Buy-It-All. Only UserPostedImage
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Offline john black  
#61 Posted : 28 January 2011 22:15:22(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: rrf Go to Quoted Post

I love the look and feel of the 30210 ... the little bycicle logo is so cool!

LaughCoolThumpUp - agree, the very point, Rob !!!
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#62 Posted : 28 January 2011 23:33:44(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: rrf Go to Quoted Post
Anyway, after countless sinkings some of these Maxon motors are starting to have bearing problems ...



One of the engineers from Maxxon Australia is a member here, he helped out quite a bit when one of our members had trouble getting a replacement motor for a 37450 Br45. Nev might remember who he was. You could email/PM him for an answer to your problem.
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#63 Posted : 28 January 2011 23:35:16(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: john black Go to Quoted Post
#2 is reserved for Super-Duper-Insiders-Who-Buy-It-All. Only UserPostedImage



Yeah, but he ain't posting/voting much in the forum these days. Maybe I should vote that option on his behalf!
Offline john black  
#64 Posted : 28 January 2011 23:39:01(UTC)
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LOL
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators.
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Offline nevw  
#65 Posted : 29 January 2011 00:19:54(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: rrf Go to Quoted Post
Anyway, after countless sinkings some of these Maxon motors are starting to have bearing problems ...



One of the engineers from Maxxon Australia is a member here, he helped out quite a bit when one of our members had trouble getting a replacement motor for a 37450 Br45. Nev might remember who he was. You could email/PM him for an answer to your problem.

Jon Pippard was the Gent in Question and for more details:

marklin-users.net forum » General topics » Digital » BR45 37450 Gone crazy
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Offline nevw  
#66 Posted : 29 January 2011 00:24:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: rrf Go to Quoted Post
Anyway, after countless sinkings some of these Maxon motors are starting to have bearing problems ...



One of the engineers from Maxxon Australia is a member here, he helped out quite a bit when one of our members had trouble getting a replacement motor for a 37450 Br45. Nev might remember who he was. You could email/PM him for an answer to your problem.



Member is Jon Pippard and his forum name is Audiopip.

Very helpfull.

Nev

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Offline dan67millie  
#67 Posted : 30 January 2011 20:17:08(UTC)
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I would like to see Blue boxes on all Marklin Stuff, I use to like the line drawings but now there sticking on photos it makes the box look very dull!!
Offline steventrain  
#68 Posted : 31 January 2011 09:55:28(UTC)
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I would like to see the BR01 '30480' in the 2012 new item to mark 60 years of BR01 model.
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#69 Posted : 31 January 2011 10:35:48(UTC)
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Yes Stephen, I'd like to see a 30480 also. Next year is as good as any. I'd like a 30470 or 30270 Br44 too!
Offline klarinettmeister  
#70 Posted : 31 January 2011 10:49:14(UTC)
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You can add 30430 to the list.

It´s the top secret Swedish new item this year. RC 1016. An replica of the old 3043 but with MFX and hornsound. Boxed in a blue box.
Can only be bought from:
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Offline dntower85  
#71 Posted : 31 January 2011 14:48:57(UTC)
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Picked up one of the blue first class coaches from the 00796 tinplate set.ThumpUp
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Offline rrf  
#72 Posted : 31 January 2011 15:15:34(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nevw Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: rrf Go to Quoted Post
Anyway, after countless sinkings some of these Maxon motors are starting to have bearing problems ...



One of the engineers from Maxxon Australia is a member here, he helped out quite a bit when one of our members had trouble getting a replacement motor for a 37450 Br45. Nev might remember who he was. You could email/PM him for an answer to your problem.



Member is Jon Pippard and his forum name is Audiopip.

Very helpfull.

Nev



Thanks BigDaddy and Nev,

I saw the orignal thread and considered reaching out to Jon for help at that time. I've been meaning to ever since but never seem to get around to it. I guess I'll go transcribe the part nubmers and see if Jon can offer any insight as to what I should purchase from the current product line.

Bye,
Rob
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Offline hennabm  
#73 Posted : 31 January 2011 17:41:27(UTC)
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As a runner of analogue, I would much prefer to buy the originals through dealers/ebay etc. BigGrin
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against a bit of retro style on the boxes.ThumpUp
1957 - 1985 era
What's digital?
Offline BR01097  
#74 Posted : 05 February 2011 21:13:46(UTC)
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The original boxes are my preference not only for aesthetic or sentimental reasons, but because those boxes with the plastic shells, tabs, and sleeves tend to discolor quickly to a sickly yellow and disintegrate, becoming utterly useless. Models in them must be padded with bubble wrap for protection in storage. Originally, the picture of the model housed inside was printed on the box making it much easier to put them away and to select them when they are packed together. Finally, form-fitted styrofoam inserts obviously cushion the locomotives from damage better than a generic box. The "retro" is actually an improvement.

____________________________________________________________________________

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Offline nevw  
#75 Posted : 14 February 2011 06:34:30(UTC)
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Some very interseting Questions and choices to be made in this poll. They have to be looked at carefully.
I notice that there are some more choices.
NN
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#76 Posted : 14 February 2011 07:14:20(UTC)
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Well, there is one option that hasn't been voted for yet.......
Offline TimR  
#77 Posted : 14 February 2011 09:27:24(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Well, there is one option that hasn't been voted for yet.......


Cool new option! ThumpUp

LOL LOL LOL
Now collecting C-Sine models.
Offline john black  
#78 Posted : 16 February 2011 14:46:52(UTC)
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Just knew you'd do it, Dave ... LOLFlapper
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#79 Posted : 16 February 2011 21:11:59(UTC)
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And he's even voted....! ThumpUp
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#80 Posted : 14 March 2011 09:39:13(UTC)
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And he's even voted....! ThumpUp



Twice Eight times.......!! OhMyGod

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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#81 Posted : 14 March 2011 09:43:34(UTC)
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Here's a blue box item we seemed to have missed (although I have my doubts as to whether it is genuine, as there is no entry in the Marklin Product Database for it).


Bigdaddynz attached the following image(s):
Maerklin_GT-Prospekt_2009_Page_18.jpg
Offline cookee_nz  
#82 Posted : 16 March 2011 02:39:48(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Here's a blue box item we seemed to have missed (although I have my doubts as to whether it is genuine, as there is no entry in the Marklin Product Database for it).




Now I'm confused. That appears to be a scan from a Marklin catalogue or leaflet, how can it not be genuine?

Where is the image from?

Or have I missed something (in my most famous Zoolander impersonation voice) REALLY REALLY REALLY obvious here?

Confused

Unless of course you're referring to an item ANNOUNCED by Marklin but never actually put into production or released for sale - it would not be the first time they did that.

Cookee
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#83 Posted : 16 March 2011 03:26:32(UTC)
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Steve, it looks genuine, in the traditional Marklin style, but when it has a 1 gauge F7 in the Australian Ghan livery, you do wonder.

It was a pdf I found on Rapidshare (not one of mine). It is 3.5mb, so I will send you a copy via email.
Offline cookee_nz  
#84 Posted : 16 March 2011 09:05:34(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Steve, it looks genuine, in the traditional Marklin style, but when it has a 1 gauge F7 in the Australian Ghan livery, you do wonder.

It was a pdf I found on Rapidshare (not one of mine). It is 3.5mb, so I will send you a copy via email.


Right, with you now.

I did find this....

http://alte-modellbahnen...Warship-seit-wann-1.html

Sure looks like an April fool joke.

Rather clever though all the same, had the Germans buzzing!!!!

Fooled me (but not for long)

LOL
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Offline Bigdaddynz  
#85 Posted : 17 March 2011 05:46:02(UTC)
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It's well done though!
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#86 Posted : 09 June 2012 22:01:01(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
I would like to see the BR01 '30480' in the 2012 new item to mark 60 years of BR01 model.


Stephen your wish has been granted! ThumpUp


BTW, as of today, we seem to have 8 people named 'Lutz' as members in this forum! OhMyGod
Offline steventrain  
#87 Posted : 10 June 2012 06:42:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
I would like to see the BR01 '30480' in the 2012 new item to mark 60 years of BR01 model.


Stephen your wish has been granted! ThumpUp


BTW, as of today, we seem to have 8 people named 'Lutz' as members in this forum! OhMyGod


It is 30080 BR01
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#88 Posted : 10 June 2012 13:58:53(UTC)
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I only have the Insider Ford Van kit in a blue box and the 2009 Mueseum Wagon, of which I bought the Ford model off Trade me Sneaky , cause I was an Outsider at the time, Scared for nostalgic reasons, as I had one when I was a young Marklinist, and the Museum Wagon to add to my Leig-Einheit Train, but I'll admit did like the packaging too.
As for the Loks I prefer the more modern realism and technology Blushing Wink Smile
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#89 Posted : 11 June 2012 01:47:44(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
It is 30080 BR01


Yes, that is correct, but it is advertised as a replica of 3008 and 3048! So, near enough for me!


Yes, I also got a set of the Leig Einheit Museum wagons, for the same reasons as Glen. I see that Marklin have issued a new set of Leig Einheit cars in this year's new items.


The number of 'Lutz's' is now up to 10! OhMyGod
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#90 Posted : 11 June 2012 02:00:30(UTC)
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I see that Marklin have issued a new set of Leig Einheit cars in this year's new items.



I did see them but they are supposedly eraIV so I passed on those, Lokshop sold out of them very quickly OhMyGod

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Glen
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#91 Posted : 11 June 2012 12:17:08(UTC)
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John, seen through my old man's eyes - one reason for youngsters not to think the M products are "cool" is actually the boring packaging of today... If the boxes had been as imaginative as in the 60's, you get some kind of expetcation by just looking at the box.

That feeling is certainly missing with the modern boxes of today, you see a white or grey box with some kind of sterile drawing or you see the wagon model itself through a plastic window...

The box design means more for mental advertising than you think...


Good point, I would have liked a nice box cover for my Thalys set. At £375 the most expensive Marklin set i have ever bought, I would liked to a seen some nice re-pro graphics of a Thalys set on the front of the box, without seeing the set through any plastic glass! I guess it would cost more to produce etc. But after Marklin did away with the scale drawings of locomotives and replaced them with photos i was a little disappointed. I would have preferred this on the Thalys box even. I would like to see what the Tintin set will look like, im told it will have graphics on the box.
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#92 Posted : 14 June 2012 12:03:46(UTC)
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Lokshop sold out of them very quickly...



http://www.ebay.com/itm/...&hash=item3f16db84df


Yes, I certainly agree with Juhan's comments about the boxes. One of the reasons why I like these blue box items is the cool graphics/paintings on the boxes.
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#93 Posted : 27 June 2012 16:13:33(UTC)
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37628 F7 from 2012 new items is not in reproduction blue box.
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