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Offline Harryv40  
#1 Posted : 23 August 2016 10:44:22(UTC)
Harryv40

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Hi
I am trying to find a list of Marklin Decoders and the relevant performance including delta decoders.

The problem is when you buy some Marklin locos with delta decoders they operate fairly poorly at low speed in the digital mode. I would like to identify those decoders and it appears to me a list of the worse and best would help.

Does one exist on the forum already?

Harry
Offline RayF  
#2 Posted : 23 August 2016 12:48:50(UTC)
RayF

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Hi Harry,

I'm sure one is out there. I remember posting a table in the past with all the Marklin decoder types. I'll try to find it.

This site lists some of them:

https://www.bogobit.de/decoder/dectype.html
Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Offline H0  
#3 Posted : 23 August 2016 14:56:25(UTC)
H0


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Hi, Harry!
Originally Posted by: Harryv40 Go to Quoted Post
I am trying to find a list of Marklin Decoders and the relevant performance including delta decoders.
Are you looking for a list that shows the decoder type for each ref. number?
33xx and 34xx are Delta or analogue, 36xx are digital but drive as bad as Delta.
37xx introduced load regulation for standard motors.

Not all 37xxx locos have load regulation, but most locos with 36xxx do.
All locos with 39xxx have load regulation - some even have brushless motors (C Sine).

Before buying, carefully read the Märklin product description.
Note that some ref. numbers came with two or three different decoders over time, so you cannot always be sure about the decoder type just from the ref. number.
Regards
Tom
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Offline Harryv40  
#4 Posted : 23 August 2016 17:16:02(UTC)
Harryv40

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Ray
Thanks for the link, it make buying secondhand or new old locos easier.

I hope the Rock is not to hot today, it's 82 in the New Forest and very sticky.

Many thanks
Harry
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Offline ktsolias  
#5 Posted : 23 August 2016 17:42:02(UTC)
ktsolias

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It extremely difficult to find exactly the decoder and motor type only from the catalog No
There are so many variations and a list will not help at all.
You have to search for each locomotive. Some time the same loco is coming with different motor and reversing unit regarding the year of production.

The serial number on each loco after 1981 helps a lot.
The letter in front is the type of the reversing unit and the decoder
Here is an index which Sven (www.saebonet.com) did some years ago

Märklin locomotive's serial numbers:

The Märklin locomotive's serial number often starts with a letter, after this list:

Letter Explanation

No letter = Electro-mechanical Reversing Unit
V = Electronically controlled electro-mechanical reversing unit (Vorshaltelektronik)
E = Electronically controlled electro-mechanical reversing unit or an Electronic reversing unit
R = 5 star propulsion, Regulated (Fünf-Sterne-Technik)
D = Digital control, usually decoder type c80 or c81
H = Digital control, High performance propulsion, usually decoder type c90, c91, fx or mfx
M = Delta (Mehrzugbetrieb)
S = C-Sinus-Motor (not exclusive, some Sinus locomotives are reported to have H)

More informations on http://www.saebonet.com/

Of course you can get help putting the question on the forum, from members who have the Loco

Costas
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#6 Posted : 23 August 2016 23:20:35(UTC)
kimballthurlow

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Location: Brisbane, Australia
Originally Posted by: ktsolias Go to Quoted Post
It extremely difficult to find exactly the decoder and motor type only from the catalog No
There are so many variations and a list will not help at all.
You have to search for each locomotive. Some time the same loco is coming with different motor and reversing unit regarding the year of production.

The serial number on each loco after 1981 helps a lot.
The letter in front is the type of the reversing unit and the decoder
Here is an index which Sven (www.saebonet.com) did some years ago

Märklin locomotive's serial numbers:
The Märklin locomotive's serial number often starts with a letter, after this list: ..........
Of course you can get help putting the question on the forum, from members who have the Loco

Costas


Hi Costas and all,
Thanks for that list and the explanations, which are really useful.

However, when buying the older locos, you will find that in some (perhaps many) cases the decoder has been upgraded.
So in that case the serial number means nothing.
As already explained, you have to make proper enquiry when purchasing.

regards

Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
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