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Offline Hackcell  
#1 Posted : 18 August 2016 04:26:33(UTC)
Hackcell

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Hello,

I want to digitalize a marklin 3000 loco, but I don't know what's the right permanent magnet to replace the current one.
Does anybody know what's the direct ESU or Marklin replacement for it?

Thanks!!
Danilo Jiménez
Union Pacific and DB Cargo H0 models.
Märklin, Brawa, MTH and some Walthers cars (nobody is perfect!)
Pinball machines, jukeboxes and Horses.
Costa Rica, pura vida!!
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#2 Posted : 18 August 2016 04:30:24(UTC)
Bigdaddynz

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Check the following thread (it's a Sticky thread so will appear close to the top of the Digital forum), it has the part numbers for various motor replacement items including the ESU permanent magnets.

https://www.marklin-user...al-conversion-of-M-locos

Look for 'ESU HAMO Magnets'.
Offline H0  
#3 Posted : 18 August 2016 07:59:45(UTC)
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Hi!
Originally Posted by: Hackcell Go to Quoted Post
Does anybody know what's the direct ESU or Marklin replacement for it?
Old #3000 have SFCM, new #3000 have DCM.
I don't know how old your #3000 is. Does it have a round copper brush?

Regards
Tom
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"In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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Offline Hackcell  
#4 Posted : 18 August 2016 08:05:33(UTC)
Hackcell

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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Hi!
Originally Posted by: Hackcell Go to Quoted Post
Does anybody know what's the direct ESU or Marklin replacement for it?
Old #3000 have SFCM, new #3000 have DCM.
I don't know how old your #3000 is. Does it have a round copper brush?



Hi,

Mine is at least 45 y/o.
Danilo Jiménez
Union Pacific and DB Cargo H0 models.
Märklin, Brawa, MTH and some Walthers cars (nobody is perfect!)
Pinball machines, jukeboxes and Horses.
Costa Rica, pura vida!!
Offline H0  
#5 Posted : 18 August 2016 08:14:30(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Hackcell Go to Quoted Post
Mine is at least 45 y/o.
Then look for SFCM in David's list. An ESU magnet is the easy way. The Märklin parts do not fit out of the box and a screw must be modified or replaced.

According to Märklin Magazine the Märklin decoders cannot be used with those "Hamo" magnets, so get a better decoder to suit the ESU magnet.
Regards
Tom
---
"In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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Offline ktsolias  
#6 Posted : 19 August 2016 09:34:19(UTC)
ktsolias

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Originally Posted by: Hackcell Go to Quoted Post
Hello,

I want to digitalize a marklin 3000 loco, but I don't know what's the right permanent magnet to replace the current one.
Does anybody know what's the direct ESU or Marklin replacement for it?

Thanks!!


If the brushes are the 60030 (carbon and cooper mesh) then the motor is a SFCM and there are two possibilities
1. Marklin 60943 motor (maybe some problems with the left lower screw)
2. ESU HAMO 51961 permanent magnet and the same rotor and motor cover (better to use an ESU decoder)

If the brushes are 60146 (both carbon) then the motor is DCM and you can use
1. Marklin 60941 (motor only)
2. Marklin 60760 (motor and decoder set) which in my opinion is most appropriate for a loco like this (cheaper)

Costas
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