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DB Fan		#1 Posted : 17 July 2016 05:30:46(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/03/2016(UTC) Posts: 265 Location: Colorado		As some of you know I made the decision and bought a used ESU 50200. Tonight I got my first 2 engines running on the test track. The first is BR 24 from a marklin starter set with mfx sound . Still have to figure how to blow the whistle. Was able to do that with the ms2 but not with the ESU yet. The 2. Engine is the pleasant surprise. When I still was collecting engines for a 2 rail layout I accidentally bid on a 3 rail Roco BR 215 and got it for a real great price. Tonight I found out that it already had a ESU look pilot decoder installed . What a great surprise. Now all I have to do is to convert all my other engines to digital. Robert

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river6109		#2 Posted : 17 July 2016 14:30:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,715 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Robert, you may find a Märklin mfx loco has sound slots as per CS but not necessarily with the ECoS, so you could find a sound on F8 under the MS2 and the same sound slot under F12 with your ECoS, with the Lok programmer you can alter the sound slots to any given Function output and you could line up the icons displayed on your MS2, furthermore you also can store all your icons under Information on you Lokprogrammer whereas you type in the name of the loco, a picture and all the other details. the next time you'll put your loco onto your track, the information you've stored will come up and also all the different icons for your sound slots. this is possible with a MFX M4 sound decoder John
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H0		#3 Posted : 17 July 2016 14:59:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,263 Location: DE-NW		Hi! For mfx locos, functions F0 through F15 should be the same on MS2, CS2, CS1, and ECoS. Only the MS1 arranges them differently due to symbol restrictions on the display. Just make sure M4 is enabled on the ECoS.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS

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DB Fan		#4 Posted : 17 July 2016 15:03:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/03/2016(UTC) Posts: 265 Location: Colorado		John, I have the Lok programmer on order and will try that as soon as I get it. I think it will be a while to even learn the basics about the Ecos but I see a lot of possibilities and fun. I have some of the conversion motors on order as well and looking now for a dealer for the ESU sound decoders. Progress will be a little slower now since my busy season is starting up again and I'll be working 7 days a week again until the end of October. But I'm sure I make a day or 2 to work on converting the engines to digital . Robert

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H0		#5 Posted : 17 July 2016 15:14:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,263 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: DB Fan John, I have the Lok programmer on order and will try that as soon as I get it. If the loco has a factory-installed mfx sound decoder then the LokProgrammer won't be able to change anything with that loco. We could provide better help if we knew the ref. number of the loco.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS


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baggio		#6 Posted : 17 July 2016 15:48:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/09/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,729 Location: Toronto		Originally Posted by: DB Fan my busy season is starting up again and I'll be working 7 days a week again until the end of October If it's not too personal, Robert, what do you do? Are you a fisherman? A restaurant owner on the beach? If the q is too personal, then please do not answer it. Silvano
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DB Fan		#7 Posted : 17 July 2016 16:06:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/03/2016(UTC) Posts: 265 Location: Colorado		Hi Silvano I sell fabrics to quilters at quilt shows. In June/July there are not that many shows and I do need a little break here and there. Now there are more shows again and I'm going to be more on the road again traveling to the shows like in Michigan,Iowa,New Hampshire, Pennsylvania,Texas. In between I have to prepare inventory for the shows, book hotels..... You get the picture . I do try to make time for the trains just to keep my sanity . Thanks for asking. Robert

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DB Fan		#8 Posted : 17 July 2016 19:34:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 01/03/2016(UTC) Posts: 265 Location: Colorado		Hi Tom The engine is from the 29247 starter set and the only numbers I can get is the 1on the side 24 041 and on the bottom H 15022802 CE. I also misspoke, it is the bell I can't get to work at the moment. The whistle is working only on f3 button and not at the lever on the Ecos. I guess these are things I have to find out over time. The programmer I bought because I'm going to use ESU sound decoders in all of my engines. The 1 sound what got me to choose ESU decoders for all my engines going forward is the Streamlined BR 03. Want to get 1 in the future. I'm not going to change the decoder in the 24 until I have a few conversions done I feel more comfortable on doing that. The future is looking bright Robert


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H0		#9 Posted : 17 July 2016 19:53:22(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,263 Location: DE-NW		The LokProgrammer won't help with the decoder of your BR 24. So anything you can do to get the whistle working can be done before the LokProgrammer arrives. I'm not sure what the lever does. You can activate any function using the touch screen.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS


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biedmatt		#10 Posted : 17 July 2016 22:34:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,343 Location: Southwest Ohio		ESU routinely places the whistle or horn on F2 so you can operate it by pushing up on the direction lever of the ECoS. That is why I put the sound function for the second prime mover on F3 and not F2 for this (and other multi-motor sound) project. https://www.marklin-user...ound-decoders#post492152 I think you can move functions around on the M decoder and place the horn under F2, but I do not think it will behave like an ESU decoder on the lever.
		Matt Era 3 DB lokos, coaches and freight cars from across Europe But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control. With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397.

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