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Offline kimballthurlow  
#1 Posted : 25 June 2016 23:11:19(UTC)
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Hi all,

I have shifted this topic from the Quiz section, because I think it will be of general interest.
Please add any information here on Maerklins' use of the "bicycle" logo in modern times (perhaps last 20 years) but there are no hard and fast rules.

As some of you know, Marklin have used various logos on packaging and products during the lifetime of the company.
One logo introduced around 1930, was the so-called 6th, or "bike" logo.
Here is a reproduction (the one on the right).
http://i51.tinypic.com/2iv1xe9.jpg

I have some HO scale Marklin die-cast products manufactured in the last 15 years, which still use this 1930 logo.
The die-cast items were produced in various forms and colours since the year 2000.
Some of these items have the 1930 logo in the casting, some simply have the word Marklin.
Certainly one of mine issued in 2004 has the logo.

If you have any items, any scale, produced in the last 15-20 years and that have the "bike" logo, I would love to see them too.

If you are interested, here is a topic from 2011 which shows the various logos used by Marklin since 1892.
https://www.marklin-users.net/forum/posts/t19559-Marklin-Trademark

regards
Kimball

Edited by user 01 July 2016 11:05:10(UTC)  | Reason: invitation for any scale items to show

HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
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Offline Iamnotthecrazyone  
#2 Posted : 25 June 2016 23:55:47(UTC)
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I thought the bike was on the tin trucks and car repros.
Offline kimballthurlow  
#3 Posted : 26 June 2016 07:14:48(UTC)
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Hi iantczo,

Thanks for your input.
....

regards
Kimball

Edited by user 01 July 2016 11:06:10(UTC)  | Reason: deleted limitations on this topic

HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
Offline Iamnotthecrazyone  
#4 Posted : 26 June 2016 11:57:09(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
Hi iantczo,

Thanks for your input.
Yes probably was, but I am asking about HO items.

I am not referring either, to the reproduction HO items, such as tin plate 24cm cars or the locos.

regards
Kimball


That make it a lot harder, If you want to leave the repros out then of the top of my head there is a refrigerator van which I don't remember what kind of edition was but it has printed all over the pattern of the old red boxes including the bike. I don't remember with certainty any now but some of the locos with advertising are good candidates to have it.

However I see you specifically talk about die cast, I have only one and it doesn't have the bike but my last guess is that you are talking about the series of old fashion trucks of which plenty have been made and are not repros..

Offline kimballthurlow  
#5 Posted : 26 June 2016 13:05:46(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Iamnotthecrazyone Go to Quoted Post
......... the series of old fashion trucks of which plenty have been made and are not repros..


Now that is possibly getting close, I will have to check - I think I have one of those little trucks.

Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#6 Posted : 26 June 2016 13:36:17(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
If you are interested, here is a topic from 2011 which shows the various logos used by Marklin since 1892.
https://www.marklin-users.net/forum/posts/t19559-Marklin-Trademark


Seems that Imageshack has gone on its normal rampage and deleted the said images!

Offline Bigdaddynz  
#7 Posted : 26 June 2016 14:04:11(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
I have some HO scale Marklin die-cast products manufactured in the last 15 years, which still use this 1930 logo.


I know the screwdriver in the Marklin Metal 10891 Slewing Crane set in the 2014/2015 Yearbook has the bike logo on it, but that isn't H0, and I'm guessing you don't have it!


M10891.JPG
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#8 Posted : 27 June 2016 00:41:53(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post


I know the screwdriver in the Marklin Metal 10891 Slewing Crane set in the 2014/2015 Yearbook has the bike logo on it, but that isn't H0, and I'm guessing you don't have it!
....


Hi David,
Thanks for posting that image.
No I don't have that one.
As I said this topic is open slather, so I figure the more items come up with the logo, the better.

regards
Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
Offline 3rail4life  
#9 Posted : 27 June 2016 04:45:27(UTC)
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Does this count?



Cheers,
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Offline Iamnotthecrazyone  
#10 Posted : 27 June 2016 05:29:43(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post


I know the screwdriver in the Marklin Metal 10891 Slewing Crane set in the 2014/2015 Yearbook has the bike logo on it, but that isn't H0, and I'm guessing you don't have it!
....



As I said this topic is open slather, so I figure the more items come up with the logo, the better.

regards
Kimball


Mmm, how is that HO or die cast?Flapper

In that case many museum wagons qualify too. Here is one then there is the coin included in the 0050 set, while the trains are repros the coin isn't.

mar.jpg




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Offline kimballthurlow  
#11 Posted : 27 June 2016 06:51:48(UTC)
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Hi iantczo,

My apologies.
Sorry, I did not mean to be confusing. By all means, show the items to which you have referred.
I think it will be interesting to view all the applications of this logo in modern times.

...
The more contributions the better.

regards
Kimball

Edited by user 01 July 2016 11:07:20(UTC)  | Reason: deleted limitations for this topic

HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#12 Posted : 27 June 2016 06:55:08(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Iamnotthecrazyone Go to Quoted Post
......... the series of old fashion trucks of which plenty have been made and are not repros..


Now that is possibly getting close, I will have to check - I think I have one of those little trucks.

Kimball


Hi,
I just checked my little 1920s era I HO scale truck.
It came with an Erfurt flat car, Maerklin item #46841.

It does not have the "bike" 1930s logo.

Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
Offline Bigdaddynz  
#13 Posted : 27 June 2016 07:01:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Iamnotthecrazyone Go to Quoted Post
Mmm, how is that HO or die cast?Flapper


Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
........ but that isn't H0, and I'm guessing you don't have it!....


You obviously didn't fully read my post! Flapper Flapper Flapper Flapper
Offline Markus Schild  
#14 Posted : 27 June 2016 10:43:34(UTC)
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Hi Kimball,

I cannot check it in the moment. What about the traditional lamps with a metal socket: 7280ff?

Regards

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Offline Iamnotthecrazyone  
#15 Posted : 27 June 2016 11:49:44(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Iamnotthecrazyone Go to Quoted Post
Mmm, how is that HO or die cast?Flapper


Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Go to Quoted Post
........ but that isn't H0, and I'm guessing you don't have it!....


You obviously didn't fully read my post! Flapper Flapper Flapper Flapper


I did read your post, I wasn't referring to it but at the slap I've got previously for mentioning things that weren't HO, die cast or were reproductions while you didn't get slapped. I think there is favouritism hereLOL LOL

Now that Kimball has clarified it a bit more I'll try to squeeze the brain a bit more to see if I can come up with something else. For a moment I thought we were talking about the bike being stamped or part of the casting underneath something like a wagon or a car and not part of the printing visible at first glance.
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#16 Posted : 27 June 2016 13:12:31(UTC)
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Hi Kimball,

I cannot check it in the moment. What about the traditional lamps with a metal socket: 7280ff?

Regards

Markus


Hi Markus,
I do not own any of these, however possible that they have the logo.

One more clue.
The items I own, with the logo, are vehicles that come with a wagon.

But there must be others.

regards
Kimball

HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
Offline kimballthurlow  
#17 Posted : 27 June 2016 13:15:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Iamnotthecrazyone Go to Quoted Post
.....bike being stamped or part of the casting underneath something like a wagon or a car and not part of the printing visible at first glance.


........very close, very close. Perfect description.

regards
Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
Offline cookee_nz  
#18 Posted : 28 June 2016 12:31:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Iamnotthecrazyone Go to Quoted Post
.....bike being stamped or part of the casting underneath something like a wagon or a car and not part of the printing visible at first glance.


........very close, very close. Perfect description.

regards
Kimball


My guess would be one (or more) of the Street Light series, or (perhaps more likely), the Uncoupler Track Light Mast?
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Offline Markus Schild  
#19 Posted : 28 June 2016 12:41:06(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Go to Quoted Post
.... the Uncoupler Track Light Mast?


Hi Steven,

It is not the uncoupler track light mast in this case. But there is something else very special what is readable on that part....

Regards

Markus
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#20 Posted : 29 June 2016 00:01:05(UTC)
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Hi all,
Thanks for your input and the interesting ideas about the logo.

I do own the little Lanz Bulldog tractor shown in this photo.
It is the #46843 Lanz H10 tractor with crate released in the years 2001-2006, and it has the "bike" logo in the casting, underneath the chassis.

http://www.gebrauchtemodellbahn.de/out/pictures/generated/product/1/665_665_80/27366.1.jpeg

I have 3 more Lanz sets with the logo, and another three that just have the Marklin name in the casting.

I am sure there are many more.
regards
Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#21 Posted : 30 June 2016 05:06:10(UTC)
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Here is anothere Lanz Bulldog tractor from 2005, that has the cast "bike" logo.
Catalogue # 46064 2005 Tracked dual wheel.

https://hattonsimages.blob.core.windows.net/products/M46064_3.JPG

regards
Kimball Thurlow
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
Offline kimballthurlow  
#22 Posted : 01 July 2016 11:10:31(UTC)
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Here is another 2 model tractors with the bike logo.

Maerklin HO scale #46948 2001-2010, 2 x models on a flat car.
http://www.marks-marktplatz.de/ebay/Bilder/ho-spur2-13/Bild520.jpg

regards
Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
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Offline Markus Schild  
#23 Posted : 01 July 2016 21:22:40(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Markus Schild Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Go to Quoted Post
.... the Uncoupler Track Light Mast?


Hi Steven,

It is not the uncoupler track light mast in this case. But there is something else very special what is readable on that part....

Regards

Markus


Hi all,

to solve this: The mast 5113, today sold as 74997 is the last known product with the pre-1957 number still on it: 3601 EKL.

Regards

Markus

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Offline cookee_nz  
#24 Posted : 01 July 2016 23:21:03(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Markus Schild Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Markus Schild Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: cookee_nz Go to Quoted Post
.... the Uncoupler Track Light Mast?


Hi Steven,

It is not the uncoupler track light mast in this case. But there is something else very special what is readable on that part....

Regards

Markus


Hi all,

to solve this: The mast 5113, today sold as 74997 is the last known product with the pre-1957 number still on it: 3601 EKL.

Regards

Markus



Thanks Markus, that would have been a good question in my 'Seriously Sick Marklin quiz' - so-called because if you knew the answers to these questions, you must be seriously sick (on Marklin). It was a bit of fun at one of our club meeting a few years back.

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