Marklin vs Roco close couplers- the score

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dominator		#1 Posted : 14 June 2016 03:12:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 1,195 Location: Kerikeri		Useability score Roco 10 ; 10 Marklin 7 ; 10 Effort to make perfect Roco nil effort 100% success scores 10 points Marklin too much effort scores no points I hate to admit defeat but I could not stop 2 out of 10 Marklin couplings from snagging together, rising up, and failing to lock in. I tried 1/ grinding the coupling leading edges to get an angle similar to the Roco. still on occasions they locked together, rose up and would not couple . 2/ cutting one side of to get both [ now hooks ] to lock in, that was successful but still ended up with the rising hooks that fell over the pre-uncoupler cap , also, would not come apart as the rear of the hooks snagged with each other 3/ grinding the back of the coupler hook to try to prevent the hooks from snagging when coming apart. didn't work . 4/ cutting the pre-uncoupler cap shorter. This resulted in the top loop snagging under the pre-uncoupler and locking both down so a coupling was impossible . Even at their best, the Marklin couplers required effort to couple and would tend to move a light carriage along the track before coupling. The Roco couplers just fall together without effort at all. A light carriage remains stationary. when dealing with shunting yards, the couplings have to be perfect every time. Roco wins hands down . Time for Uncle Marklin to get his act together. Dereck
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H0		#2 Posted : 14 June 2016 08:07:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,262 Location: DE-NW		For clarity: did you test Roco Close Couplers or Roco Universal Couplers? Roco couplers that couple with Märklin Close Couplers are "Roco Universal Couplers". The "Roco Close Coupler" does not couple with Märklin Close Couplers.
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dominator		#3 Posted : 14 June 2016 10:24:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 1,195 Location: Kerikeri		Roco 40397 This seemed to couple with the Marklin couplers ok. This information available with the complements of Matt. Biedmatt
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H0		#4 Posted : 14 June 2016 11:11:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,262 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: dominator Roco 40397 That's the Universal Coupler, not the Close Coupler.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS

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biedmatt		#5 Posted : 14 June 2016 11:49:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 09/04/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,343 Location: Southwest Ohio		Originally Posted by: dominator Roco 40397 This seemed to couple with the Marklin couplers ok. This information available with the complements of Matt. Biedmatt I included 8 Roco universal couplers with a bunch of M close couplers I sent to Dereck, I knew once he tried the Roco couplers he would like them.
		Matt Era 3 DB lokos, coaches and freight cars from across Europe But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control. With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397.


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dominator		#6 Posted : 15 June 2016 00:30:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 1,195 Location: Kerikeri		They seem to couple nearly as closely as the marklin close couplers. Close enough for me I must admit. Dereck ps, All those in favour, send a message to Marklin asking them to improve their couplers or supply Roco ones. I see from the other post it might take 2-3 months for them to respond to emails but if they get many emails, they might have cause to react quicker, even if it is no.
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kimballthurlow		#7 Posted : 15 June 2016 04:16:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/03/2007(UTC) Posts: 6,667 Location: Brisbane, Australia		Hi Dereck and all, Thank you for the evaluation. I like the Roco universal coupler, and use it on quite a few wagons. I personally believe the "close coupling" idea to be overblown, as it appears to make little difference when actually running trains. I for one, rarely notice the difference. I won't be sending an email to Marklin however. I don't mind buying extra couplers, it might help keep both companies in business. regards Kimball
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H0		#8 Posted : 15 June 2016 08:07:55(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,262 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: kimballthurlow I personally believe the "close coupling" idea to be overblown, as it appears to make little difference when actually running trains. I for one, rarely notice the difference. For me it makes a big difference with coaches, easily noticeable on straight track. With freight trains it is naturally less important. Not all freight cars have a guiding mechanism - and even those that have may not run buffer to buffer on straight track. Good that we have a choice. For people in Italy it could be more difficult to get the Roco Universal couplers - "not for sale in Italy", probably due to patent issues.
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS

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