Welcome to the forum   
Welcome Guest! To enable all features please Login or Register.

Notification

Icon
Error

Share
Options
View
Go to last post in this topic Go to first unread post in this topic
Offline Brendan Flake  
#1 Posted : 11 April 2016 03:05:18(UTC)
Brendan Flake

United States   
Joined: 10/04/2016(UTC)
Posts: 3
Location: Snowflake, Arizona
Marklin 004.JPGMarklin 001.JPGMarklin 007.JPGMarklin 006.JPGMarklin 005.JPGMarklin 002.JPG[attach]32598[/attach


]I have a Marklin briefcase set that I think is pre 1960, but I am not sure. I have paperwork with it and it calls this set a "405A". I know nothing about model train sets, I just picked this up at a swap meet. I need all the information i can get on it. I am very curious as to how much it is worth and the year of manufacture on it. Any information will be greatly appreciated! It also has one engine and three cars included. I got the set running flawlessly, and it shows no signs of damage or really even light use. Nothing is broken on it. I attached some photos.
Thank you!
Offline Iamnotthecrazyone  
#2 Posted : 11 April 2016 04:17:29(UTC)
Iamnotthecrazyone

Australia   
Joined: 22/01/2012(UTC)
Posts: 1,044
Hi, there is no such thing as Marklin Z gauge prior to the 60's as they did not start making them until the 70's. Ebay is a good place to check current values but if the suitcase is not original the value would be roughly what the individual components are worth. Some people made their own. I had quick browse and I couldn't find yours in my catalogues or just check later in case someone elses spots it and confirm everything is correct, I think it is correct except the age you've said.
Offline Iamnotthecrazyone  
#3 Posted : 11 April 2016 04:33:21(UTC)
Iamnotthecrazyone

Australia   
Joined: 22/01/2012(UTC)
Posts: 1,044
keep an eye on this one that finishes in a few days price shouldn't be too different , no trains. link
Offline Tom Jessop  
#4 Posted : 11 April 2016 05:46:39(UTC)
Tom Jessop

Australia   
Joined: 14/12/2002(UTC)
Posts: 800
Location: Newcastle NSW Australia


At a rough guess the one on Ebay is the same one being asked about on here regarding value etc .

Cheers Tom in Oz .
Offline Brendan Flake  
#5 Posted : 11 April 2016 05:47:59(UTC)
Brendan Flake

United States   
Joined: 10/04/2016(UTC)
Posts: 3
Location: Snowflake, Arizona
Ok, Thank you! If there is any more information that you or anyone else can find out that would be very helpful. Could you maybe make a rough educated guess appertaining to the age?
Thanks again!
Offline Iamnotthecrazyone  
#6 Posted : 11 April 2016 06:53:07(UTC)
Iamnotthecrazyone

Australia   
Joined: 22/01/2012(UTC)
Posts: 1,044
It is certainly one of the early briefcases, unless someone else have precise documentation I'll place it around 1974 or so. the leaflet for the loco you have shown seem to be more like later 70's to early 80's. It is Z gauge which I think is the smallest working scale ever made but not 100% sure about that, the one in the auction is 403.
Offline Markus Schild  
#7 Posted : 11 April 2016 09:59:19(UTC)
Markus Schild

Germany   
Joined: 14/01/2006(UTC)
Posts: 1,802
Location: Wurttemberg
Hi,

Märklin Inc. in New Berlin (WI) was founded in 1980 and started operation in 1981. So it can't be earlier. Somewhere I have a sale-discount leaflet from New Berlin which was published around 1992, which still shows this briefcase.

Regards

Markus
thanks 3 users liked this useful post by Markus Schild
Offline mike c  
#8 Posted : 11 April 2016 18:18:04(UTC)
mike c

Canada   
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC)
Posts: 7,892
Location: Montreal, QC
Z Scale was launched in 1971/72. Marklin Inc (USA) started operating in the early 1980s. I think it was around 1984. Prior to that, Marklin's distributor in the USA was Walthers and the distributor in Canada was Gordon Book and Company. I started working in a Montreal hobby shop in 1983 and worked there until 1986. The changeover from Walthers (ordering) occurred at some point in 1984. Marklin USA Inc was a joint venture between Maerklin Gmbh and Walthers Inc. During that period, a number of Walthers employees migrated to the new corporate entity and went on to become the core of the new venture.

Regards

Mike C
thanks 1 user liked this useful post by mike c
Offline Markus Schild  
#9 Posted : 11 April 2016 19:45:38(UTC)
Markus Schild

Germany   
Joined: 14/01/2006(UTC)
Posts: 1,802
Location: Wurttemberg
Originally Posted by: mike c Go to Quoted Post
Z Scale was launched in 1971/72. Marklin Inc (USA) started operating in the early 1980s. I think it was around 1984.


Hi Mike,

It was 1981: https://news.google.com/...de&pg=4339%2C5955904

Regards

Marksu
thanks 1 user liked this useful post by Markus Schild
Offline mike c  
#10 Posted : 11 April 2016 20:29:46(UTC)
mike c

Canada   
Joined: 28/11/2007(UTC)
Posts: 7,892
Location: Montreal, QC
@Markus. Thanks for the article. It is possible that they set up the company (administration) in 1981, but I was working at the shop (1983-1986) when we received the notification that future orders should be routed to Marklin USA rather than through the regular Walthers chain. That was in late 1983 or early 1984. Prior to that, most of our orders had gone through Gordon Book (Canada). Due to the fact that Gordon Book tended to stock mainly DB and NS items, there were many items (SBB, FS, SNCF) as well as items that were out of stock that we ordered through Walthers.
When Marklin USA fully took over distribution from Walthers and Gordon Book, we were very happy, because it meant that the fill and service improved. Prior to that, Maerklin coming through Walthers was subject to their quarterly deliveries, meaning that it could take up to three to six months to get a single item if it was coming from Germany. We were even happier a few years later when Maerklin decided that North American dealers could order direct from the factory (Goeppingen).
I still remember having to go through the Walthers catalog for each order because they assigned an internal order number that you had to provide when ordering. The first year or so we would send the order to Gordon Book (Toronto), wait for the order confirmation fax and then try to get the out of stock items from Walthers.

Regards

Mike C
Offline Brendan Flake  
#11 Posted : 12 April 2016 01:41:13(UTC)
Brendan Flake

United States   
Joined: 10/04/2016(UTC)
Posts: 3
Location: Snowflake, Arizona
Thank you guys for the information. Does anybody have a rough estimate on the value besides the eBay listing?
Users browsing this topic
Guest
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

| Powered by YAF.NET | YAF.NET © 2003-2024, Yet Another Forum.NET
This page was generated in 0.559 seconds.