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Offline Joseph Meiring  
#1 Posted : 22 February 2016 16:11:45(UTC)
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Joseph Meiring

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Two South Australian 400 class GarrattPicture 011.jpgs (the third one is dead)....
Three GF Garratts in Natal Province SA
Picture 008.jpg
The GMAM Garratt in Pietermatizburg, SA
Picture 012.jpg

During the '70's, South Africa had over 400 Garratts in operation...the largest collection of the type seen anywhere in the world...most of them operating on our standard (rather narrow) 3ft 6 inch gauge
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#2 Posted : 23 February 2016 00:14:01(UTC)
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Hi Joe,

Thanks for the photos.
Certainly interesting locos.

regards
Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#3 Posted : 23 February 2016 01:54:18(UTC)
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Hi Joe,
In your first photo, the third (dead) Garrat was a different type. This one is being towed without its front tender.
It was called the Australian Standard Garrat because it was built under direction of an all-Australian committee around 1940.
They were allocated to the narrow gauge 3' 6" lines of Tasmania, South Australia and Queensland.

Operationally, it was a failure, for a number of reasons. http://users.nex.net.au/~reidgck/s-trains.htm

http://www.nex.net.au/~reidgck/pieman-r.jpg
http://www.nex.net.au/~reidgck/pieman-r.jpg

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Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
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Offline Thewolf  
#4 Posted : 23 February 2016 09:33:27(UTC)
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Hi everyone

I have never seen locos like that.

I wonder it is what the part before and to which it is of use ?

Thewolf
Project The Richelieu Valley Railway-CS2-Track C- Itrain-Digital
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Offline Swimmer  
#5 Posted : 23 February 2016 09:45:28(UTC)
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Hi,

You can read the information about the Garrats in the following URL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garratt

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Carsten
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Offline Thewolf  
#6 Posted : 23 February 2016 09:53:45(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Swimmer Go to Quoted Post
Hi,

You can read the information about the Garrats in the following URL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garratt

Regards
Carsten


Thank you Carsten Cool

It is an ingenious system for the sinuous and narrow rails

Thewolf
Project The Richelieu Valley Railway-CS2-Track C- Itrain-Digital
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Offline Swimmer  
#7 Posted : 23 February 2016 09:56:03(UTC)
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Hi,

In the below URL it has a video of two Garrats still in operation in South Africa

http://illianaroad.com/r...ful-garrett-locomotives/

Regards
Carsten
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Offline MalinAC  
#8 Posted : 23 February 2016 10:33:17(UTC)
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With 2 coupled together they seem to be working very hard, going by the amount of smoke for not very much speed or am I missing something Confused Confused Eddie
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Offline Swimmer  
#9 Posted : 23 February 2016 12:43:40(UTC)
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With 2 coupled together they seem to be working very hard, going by the amount of smoke for not very much speed or am I missing something Confused Confused Eddie


To start going to build up speed they smoke a lot. When coasting the front one is just idling. In the last section of the video they are actually climbing a steep grade BigGrin



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Offline Joseph Meiring  
#10 Posted : 23 February 2016 16:09:36(UTC)
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Joseph Meiring

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Originally Posted by: Swimmer Go to Quoted Post
Hi,

In the below URL it has a video of two Garrats still in operation in South Africa

http://illianaroad.com/r...ful-garrett-locomotives/

Regards
Carsten

Thanks so much Carsten - brings back lots of memories of my days with the old SAR&H......a great video, thanks again
Joe
Cape Town
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Offline kimballthurlow  
#11 Posted : 23 February 2016 23:52:44(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: MalinAC Go to Quoted Post
With 2 coupled together they seem to be working very hard, going by the amount of smoke for not very much speed or am I missing something Confused Confused Eddie


Hi Eddie,
I expect it was probably for show, as it may have been on an enthusiasts special, judging from the fact it seems to be hauling passenger cars.

regards
Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin (ep II-III and VI, C Track, digital) - 2 rail HO (Queensland Australia, UK, USA) - 3 rail OO (English Hornby Dublo) - old clockwork O gauge - Live Steam 90mm (3.1/2 inch) gauge.
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Offline mikemasey  
#12 Posted : 16 March 2016 02:23:25(UTC)
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mikemasey

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Garret watering at Vic falls 1989..png (13,402kb) downloaded 28 time(s).

From a holiday as a younger man,

little did I know what an obsession trains would become!
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Offline PJMärklin  
#13 Posted : 16 March 2016 07:38:42(UTC)
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PJMärklin

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From a holiday as a younger man,

little did I know what an obsession trains would become!



Thanks for the image Mike, I like Garrets

Regards,

PJ
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Offline MalinAC  
#14 Posted : 16 March 2016 08:54:23(UTC)
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MalinAC

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Hi guys , I just purchased an NSWGR AD60 class 4-8-4+4-8-4 Garratt from Eureka Models in NSW and it came yesterday. Its a beautiful model.It has light weathering with red lining. Im waiting for some 2 rail track I ordered to test it out. the sections are joined together with what look like 8 pin connecters so I would imagine that over time if you keep pulling the sections apart they will get loose. It also says not to try and lift the 3 pieces together. All in all it is about 18 inchs long. I wonder how that compares to a " BIG BOY ". Pictures to follow. Take care EddieCool Cool Cool
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