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Offline steventrain  
#1 Posted : 26 January 2016 13:57:56(UTC)
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Marklin 2016 Toyfair - 37017 S2/6 of the K.Bay.Sts.B. Epoch I in blue Livery + mfx decoder with extensive sound functions in a wooden case.

One-time series. UVP: 499,99 Euro

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Offline vilithejou  
#2 Posted : 26 January 2016 14:16:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: steventrain Go to Quoted Post
Marklin 2016 Toyfair - 37017 S2/6 of the K.Bay.Sts.B. Epoch I in blue Livery + mfx decoder with extensive sound functions in a wooden case.

One-time series. UVP: 499,99 Euro


it's a real model or invention from Marklin?

A "photo"

http://www.ajckids.com/products/Marklin/37017
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#3 Posted : 26 January 2016 14:24:24(UTC)
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it's a real model or invention from Marklin?
Most likely a fantasy livery. Nice for Orient Express and other trains.

Regards
Tom
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Offline mbarreto  
#4 Posted : 26 January 2016 14:37:44(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vilithejou Go to Quoted Post
it's a real model or invention from Marklin?
Most likely a fantasy livery. Nice for Orient Express and other trains.



Yes. If I will buy it (very probable) it will pull the Orient Express blue coaches, even if dates are not that much matching.
Currently I use several locos for pull it, but usually 37016 and 39023.

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Miguel
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Offline steventrain  
#5 Posted : 26 January 2016 15:31:57(UTC)
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The 37017 blue with Gold rings on it.
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Offline vilithejou  
#6 Posted : 26 January 2016 15:42:41(UTC)
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It seem that will be the four bavarian for add at 3 Bavarian set 31806 Gt 2x4/4, S3/6, B VI in blue scheme
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Offline Sander van Wijk  
#7 Posted : 26 January 2016 15:55:30(UTC)
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Ouch, and I was thinking this year would be relatively cheap with largely number variants in Era I (except for the T18, which was on the wishlist already).

Want. One. :)
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Offline mbarreto  
#8 Posted : 26 January 2016 16:04:45(UTC)
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I hope the colors are like the 33183, except for the rods (I prefer the current darkened style).
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Miguel
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Offline Goofy  
#9 Posted : 26 January 2016 18:19:59(UTC)
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Same madness about the orange steam locomotive BR52!

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Offline NS1200  
#10 Posted : 26 January 2016 20:21:50(UTC)
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I get the impression from various internet sites that the 2016 Toy Fair new items will be announced tomorrow 27 January.
Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
Offline vilithejou  
#11 Posted : 26 January 2016 21:55:30(UTC)
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Confirmed by Marklin

37017 is the same Scheme Colour like 31806 and is extension lok for the set.
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Offline mbarreto  
#12 Posted : 26 January 2016 22:00:27(UTC)
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I really prefered it as in the AJCKids link mentioned above by Joan Vilarrúbia, without the red and with the blue less vivid... That image is below:

37017

I am undecided about it now.
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Offline Sander van Wijk  
#13 Posted : 28 January 2016 09:26:19(UTC)
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Thanks to Glenn we have a little more info, as he posted a picture of the Messe Lok brochure in another thread: https://www.marklin-user...34991-Nuremberg-Toy-Fair
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Offline mbarreto  
#14 Posted : 28 January 2016 18:11:11(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Sander van Wijk Go to Quoted Post
Thanks to Glenn we have a little more info, as he posted a picture of the Messe Lok brochure in another thread: https://www.marklin-user...34991-Nuremberg-Toy-Fair



It is exactly as I like. I just hope the final version has exactly the same color scheme as the one in the photo. :-)


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Online GlennM  
#15 Posted : 29 January 2016 23:25:52(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Sander van Wijk Go to Quoted Post
Thanks to Glenn we have a little more info, as he posted a picture of the Messe Lok brochure in another thread: https://www.marklin-user...34991-Nuremberg-Toy-Fair



It is exactly as I like. I just hope the final version has exactly the same color scheme as the one in the photo. :-)




It will be Royal Blue, which IIRC will be a similar shade to the King Ludwig loco which is also Royal Blue.

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Offline Nielsenr  
#16 Posted : 31 January 2016 18:27:53(UTC)
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Does anyone know if Marklin announced an expected delivery date for the 37017?

Robert
Offline mbarreto  
#17 Posted : 01 February 2016 10:00:25(UTC)
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Hello,

Can someone tell me the price seen after login of 37017 in Lippe, please?

Regards
Miguel
Best regards,
Miguel
Mostly Märklin H0.


Offline Sander van Wijk  
#18 Posted : 01 February 2016 11:43:21(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: GlennM Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Sander van Wijk Go to Quoted Post
Thanks to Glenn we have a little more info, as he posted a picture of the Messe Lok brochure in another thread: https://www.marklin-user...34991-Nuremberg-Toy-Fair



It is exactly as I like. I just hope the final version has exactly the same color scheme as the one in the photo. :-)




It will be Royal Blue, which IIRC will be a similar shade to the King Ludwig loco which is also Royal Blue.

BR



Hi Glenn, all,

Yes, the Royal Blue King Ludwig S 3/6 (37186) is reasonably close. Märklin explicitly advertises the new S 2/6 as a potential addition to the 31806 set, so, it is safe to assume the color will be exactly the same as that set. To earlier points made; the 31806 set includes an S 3/6 with some red highlights, however, the new S 2/6 will not have red parts, and should resemble the B VI in that set which is solely Blue / Black with some gold highlights.

For now, we will simply have to do with the pictures already included above, as there was no sample on display at the Spielwarenmesse... So, that will leave us (me included) in eager anticipation of the actual model.

Cheers,

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Offline ParisTsirchoglou  
#19 Posted : 01 February 2016 12:40:46(UTC)
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Hello everybody.

It looks like a great model and I am quite sure it will sell very well.

Just wondering though (and please don't get me wrong on that) will this be also manufactured in China and South Korea, or this old story is over?

Cheers

Paris
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#20 Posted : 01 February 2016 13:32:08(UTC)
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Hello,

Can someone tell me the price seen after login of 37017 in Lippe, please?

Regards
Miguel



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Offline mbarreto  
#21 Posted : 01 February 2016 14:23:35(UTC)
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Hi Glenn, all,

Yes, the Royal Blue King Ludwig S 3/6 (37186) is reasonably close. Märklin explicitly advertises the new S 2/6 as a potential addition to the 31806 set, so, it is safe to assume the color will be exactly the same as that set. To earlier points made; the 31806 set includes an S 3/6 with some red highlights, however, the new S 2/6 will not have red parts, and should resemble the B VI in that set which is solely Blue / Black with some gold highlights.
...


I still hope it is like the 33183 which is different from both 37186 and 31806 although it looks similar (IMHO) compared to the picture of the M flyer.
I am happy if no red parts will exist in this new livery.
I also hope it has cabin interior painted like the 2 previous liveries.
I will have no luck in this, but I would love it to have Telex in the rear.
As you say, we need to wait until it is delivered.
Best regards,
Miguel
Mostly Märklin H0.


Offline Janne75  
#22 Posted : 01 February 2016 19:14:09(UTC)
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Hi Miquel,

I also like most that nice blue color tone of 33183 from my S 3/6 collection. I have also 37186 S 3/6 and it's color is too bright blue for my taste. These S 2/6 models are nice and very detailed, but I'm not going to buy them. The reason for this is that they have only two driving axles vs. three in S 3/6's. In my opinion steam locos should have 3-8 driving axles. Good reason to limit my collection... BigGrin

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Offline steventrain  
#23 Posted : 01 February 2016 20:46:16(UTC)
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37017 ording now closed after end of Nurmberg fair.

Lokshop can not accept any more order since toy fair closed.
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Offline mbarreto  
#24 Posted : 02 February 2016 00:32:23(UTC)
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Hi Miquel,

I also like most that nice blue color tone of 33183 from my S 3/6 collection. I have also 37186 S 3/6 and it's color is too bright blue for my taste. These S 2/6 models are nice and very detailed, but I'm not going to buy them. The reason for this is that they have only two driving axles vs. three in S 3/6's. In my opinion steam locos should have 3-8 driving axles. Good reason to limit my collection... BigGrin

Cheers,
Janne


I understand you and I accept and agree with your opinion. I just like too much S2/6 and i ordered it... Rationally I wouldn't have done it...


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Offline shannon  
#25 Posted : 03 February 2016 02:24:10(UTC)
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As soon as my wife saw the picture, she couln't resist the painting at all. I told her the painting was fictional but she totally didn't care history and research.

I have made a reservation at Model-lippe
Offline shannon  
#26 Posted : 03 February 2016 02:34:50(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post

Hello,

Can someone tell me the price seen after login of 37017 in Lippe, please?

Regards
Miguel


http://www.modellbahnsho...gatt-gb-h-0/produkt.html

Offline H0  
#27 Posted : 03 February 2016 07:51:46(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post

Hello,

Can someone tell me the price seen after login of 37017 in Lippe, please?

Regards
Miguel


http://www.modellbahnsho...gatt-gb-h-0/produkt.html

For people without own user account this only shows the price before the login, so this does not answer the question.

The price after login seems to be the same as before login. So far no user reported a lower price after login.
Regards
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Offline NS1200  
#28 Posted : 03 February 2016 07:58:15(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: shannon Go to Quoted Post

As soon as my wife saw the picture, she couln't resist the painting at all. I told her the painting was fictional but she totally didn't care history and research.

I have made a reservation at Model-lippe


We like the cars,our women like the colors.
As such,when buying a car,leave your spouse at home.......
You might end up with a pink horrible thing on 3 wheels.

Have more than you show,speak less than you know (Shakespeare).
Offline mbarreto  
#29 Posted : 03 February 2016 10:28:40(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: shannon Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: mbarreto Go to Quoted Post

Hello,

Can someone tell me the price seen after login of 37017 in Lippe, please?

Regards
Miguel


http://www.modellbahnsho...gatt-gb-h-0/produkt.html

For people without own user account this only shows the price before the login, so this does not answer the question.

The price after login seems to be the same as before login. So far no user reported a lower price after login.


Because I saw the price after and before login the same I posted here the question and got the confirmation the price is the same.
I also sent an email to Lippe and argued that 39250 has same RRP and much lower price. The reply (arrived after the first answer to post) said that the price is based not only on RRP but also on the their cost (the price they buy to M).

Best regards,
Miguel
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Offline steventrain  
#30 Posted : 08 March 2016 17:01:00(UTC)
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Delivery planned for 37017 is Q3!
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Offline steventrain  
#31 Posted : 21 April 2016 22:04:27(UTC)
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37017 is ready due August 2016 - Marklin.
Large Marklinist 3- Rails Layout with CS2/MS2/Boosters/C-track/favorites Electric class E03/BR103, E18/E118, E94, Crocodiles/Steam BR01, BR03, BR05, BR23, BR44, BR50, Big Boy.
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