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steventrain		#1 Posted : 06 January 2016 18:14:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		CS2 is no longer available. NEW CS3 and CS3Plus is on way - See News from Marklin Topic!
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Goofy		#2 Posted : 06 January 2016 18:47:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,019		I told you...i told you...I TOLD YOU!! New CS3!
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steventrain		#3 Posted : 06 January 2016 18:55:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Originally Posted by: Goofy I told you...i told you...I TOLD YOU!! New CS3! Did I told you few years ago?
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H0		#4 Posted : 06 January 2016 21:07:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,267 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: steventrain CS2 is no longer available. Product database shows yellow light ("Article temporarily not in stock"), which usually means that the article will be available again.
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Bigdaddynz		#5 Posted : 06 January 2016 21:57:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: steventrain Originally Posted by: Goofy I told you...i told you...I TOLD YOU!! New CS3! Did I told you few years ago? Well, you first heard it here from me - there will be a CS4!
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kiwiAlan		#6 Posted : 06 January 2016 22:49:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,109 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: Goofy I told you...i told you...I TOLD YOU!! New CS3! No you are wrong ... there are TWO cs3s ...

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steventrain		#7 Posted : 06 January 2016 22:53:35(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: Goofy I told you...i told you...I TOLD YOU!! New CS3! No you are wrong ... there are TWO cs3s ... 60216 will be master CS3 and 60226 will be slave add on CS3?
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Bigdaddynz		#8 Posted : 06 January 2016 22:58:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: steventrain 60216 will be master CS3 and 60226 will be slave add on CS3? Or maybe 60216 is the full featured CS3 and 60226 is a lesser version for inclusion in starter sets. Time will tell.
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kiwiAlan		#9 Posted : 06 January 2016 22:59:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,109 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: steventrain Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: Goofy I told you...i told you...I TOLD YOU!! New CS3! No you are wrong ... there are TWO cs3s ... 60216 will be master CS3 and 60226 will be slave add on CS3? My pick would be that the cs3+ replaces the cs2, and the cs3 replaces the ms2 or is a cutdown cs3+ for use in mega start sets. In both cases i suspect they will have used a faster processor to get the speed up, and to handle the problems you get when you add a new mfx loco to a layout that already has a lot of mfx locos on it - exactly the problem that Nigel has.


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Goofy		#10 Posted : 07 January 2016 05:40:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,019		Originally Posted by: steventrain 60216 will be master CS3 and 60226 will be slave add on CS3? I don´t think so. CS3plus are perhaps with similar cab,while the CS3 is without.
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Goofy		#11 Posted : 07 January 2016 11:15:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,019		Originally Posted by: Goofy Originally Posted by: steventrain 60216 will be master CS3 and 60226 will be slave add on CS3? I don´t think so. CS3plus are perhaps with similar cab,while the CS3 is without. Maybe i have wrong. xxup(Adrian) did wrote difference size of the screen. I think he has right. Let´s see when news present next week.
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Karl Gunnar Sjöqvist		#12 Posted : 07 January 2016 14:40:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 07/01/2016(UTC) Posts: 13		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan My pick would be that the cs3+ replaces the cs2, and the cs3 replaces the ms2 or is a cutdown cs3+ for use in mega start sets. In both cases i suspect they will have used a faster processor to get the speed up, and to handle the problems you get when you add a new mfx loco to a layout that already has a lot of mfx locos on it - exactly the problem that Nigel has. Considering the indicated price tag it seems like CS3+ will replace CS2 and CS3 without + will be positioned between the MS2 and CS2, but it seems to expensive to replace MS2. Hopefully the MS2 will still be compatible. Prices also indicate that they still have a touch screen - if it is a "black box" without screen it would be cheaper... My first guess is that Power output is the difference between the two versions, and perhaps a limitation of how many locos and accessories can be connected at the same time... Another guess is that speed knobs are not included in the cheaper one - but the touch screen can be used for driving as well as an attached Mobile Station. Edited by moderator 10 January 2016 10:01:48(UTC) \| Reason: Too many nested quotes!
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Goofy		#13 Posted : 10 January 2016 09:52:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,019		Originally Posted by: Karl Gunnar Sjöqvist Considering the indicated price tag it seems like CS3+ will replace CS2 and CS3 without + will be positioned between the MS2 and CS2, but it seems to expensive to replace MS2. Hopefully the MS2 will still be compatible. No MS2 will be replacement by off MS3. It depends possible to accept larger information in the soft program and it means larger computer chip in the new MS3. The new generation decoder mSD3 says higher soft program in the MS2,but the computer chip is too small for that. Märklin is now trying to sell out MS2,by present more startsets with the MS2 as news 2016. The startset 29000 is one of the reason!
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Bigdaddynz		#14 Posted : 10 January 2016 10:05:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		We're getting a tad off topic here - this thread is meant to be about the unavailability of the CS2, not about supposed features of the CS3 or about the possibility of a MS3.
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Goofy		#15 Posted : 10 January 2016 10:20:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,019		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz We're getting a tad off topic here - this thread is meant to be about the unavailability of the CS2, not about supposed features of the CS3 or about the possibility of a MS3. CS3 do replacement of the CS2. If CS2 is no longer available,then there is no more to discuss about CS2.
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H0		#16 Posted : 10 January 2016 10:23:29(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,267 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: Goofy If CS2 is no longer available,then there is no more to discuss about CS2. Yellow light in product database, so likely it will be available again. And it seems we can expect at least one more update for the CS2. No need to have speculation about CS3 and MS3 in more than one thread.
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Bigdaddynz		#17 Posted : 10 January 2016 11:30:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,665 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: Goofy CS3 do replacement of the CS2. If CS2 is no longer available,then there is no more to discuss about CS2. Great, I'll lock this topic then........since according to Goofy there is nothing more to be said!
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