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nitramretep		#51 Posted : 08 January 2016 16:37:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 207 Location: lower hudson valley, ny		Thanks Marklin; just purchased a CS 2 about three months ago. I guess it will make a great paper weight. I have always purchased Marklin locomotives, carriages and freight stock but I am beginning to wonder as to their commitment to the consumer, at least in the US. ESU looks better and better when I think about this CS3 release coming less than year after investing nearly a $1K!
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RayF		#52 Posted : 08 January 2016 18:54:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 15,839 Location: Gibraltar, Europe		Originally Posted by: nitramretep Thanks Marklin; just purchased a CS 2 about three months ago. I guess it will make a great paper weight. I have always purchased Marklin locomotives, carriages and freight stock but I am beginning to wonder as to their commitment to the consumer, at least in the US. ESU looks better and better when I think about this CS3 release coming less than year after investing nearly a $1K! Your CS2 won't stop working when the new controller comes in! Enjoy the nice bit of equipment you've invested in for a few years at least. Just because there is a newer model doesn't mean you have to immediately go out and get it.
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foumaro		#53 Posted : 08 January 2016 20:36:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/12/2004(UTC) Posts: 4,420 Location: Attiki Athens Greece		Originally Posted by: RayF Originally Posted by: nitramretep Thanks Marklin; just purchased a CS 2 about three months ago. I guess it will make a great paper weight. I have always purchased Marklin locomotives, carriages and freight stock but I am beginning to wonder as to their commitment to the consumer, at least in the US. ESU looks better and better when I think about this CS3 release coming less than year after investing nearly a $1K! Your CS2 won't stop working when the new controller comes in! Enjoy the nice bit of equipment you've invested in for a few years at least. Just because there is a newer model doesn't mean you have to immediately go out and get it. The bright side of life.
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Hackcell		#54 Posted : 08 January 2016 20:42:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/11/2013(UTC) Posts: 521		I hope they include functions as railcom+.
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Bigdaddynz		#55 Posted : 08 January 2016 21:01:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,663 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: Hackcell I hope they include functions as railcom+. Don't we all hope - Railcom+ and Loconet would be great. However, see Tom's (H0) post #36 in this thread for his considered judgement on that. Hopefully he is wrong (and I'm sure Tom wouldn't mind if he was) and Marklin do the right thing for MRR enthusiasts.
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nitramretep		#56 Posted : 08 January 2016 21:57:45(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2015(UTC) Posts: 207 Location: lower hudson valley, ny		I understand the CS 2 will continue to work, as it does which in terms of the PC interface is horrible. The fact that Marklin treats the US as a step child does not help in the matter. I wonder what bells and whistles the the CS 3 will have? I will not use Marklin for control purposes in the future; that is for certain.
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xxup		#57 Posted : 08 January 2016 22:15:30(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,463 Location: Australia		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz ...Don't we all hope - Railcom+ and Loconet would be great... I am not so sure that Railcom is the ant's pajamas.. It seems that on the ESU site, the first thing that DCC users of eCOS are asked to do when they have a problem is to disable Railcom.. Maybe Railcom+ is different?
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Bigdaddynz		#58 Posted : 08 January 2016 23:01:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,663 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: xxup ........asked to do when they have a problem is to disable Railcom.. Yeah, but that's only when there's a problem - they advise that to avoid any potential protocol conflicts. I can't say I've ever had a problem with it, but then I've only used it to register my KM1 Br01 loco.
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Hackcell		#59 Posted : 09 January 2016 03:27:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/11/2013(UTC) Posts: 521		Märklin needs to come up with something capable of detect which locomotive (based on loco address) is on a specific/isolated track section on the fly (Having the locomotive being stopped to query its address is lame). That will dramatically increase the programing/memory functions possibilites. That's my (IT person) 2 cents.
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H0		#60 Posted : 09 January 2016 08:34:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,262 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: Hackcell Märklin needs to come up with something capable of detect which locomotive (based on loco address) is on a specific/isolated track section on the fly (Having the locomotive being stopped to query its address is lame). AFAIK there is a RailCom patent on this. Technically this shouldn't be a problem, but for legal reasons I don't see it coming. The ECoS has this functionality for a long time now - for DCC decoders with RailCom.
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Goofy		#61 Posted : 09 January 2016 09:54:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,012		Detection with the digital is sometimes problem by use Märklins tracks,cause of stainless steel which do oxid. If not less they fix the problem about the rail in the tracks... I don´t think Märklin are interesting of the Railcom.
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clapcott		#62 Posted : 10 January 2016 02:02:42(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,433 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		Originally Posted by: Hackcell Märklin needs to come up with something capable of detect which locomotive (based on loco address) is on a specific/isolated track section on the fly . This is getting into the old discussion of whether Marklin should do it themselves of if they should facilitate it. i.e. focus what you do best (make models) and leverage expertise where needed - even if that means outsourcing/licencing Currently the mfx ping response is identifiable to the controller by which booster it comes from, so there is some course identification there already. Uhlenbrook offer (announce last year for deliver this year) an MFU module for reading information from a mFX decoder, which sounds like it could work in this environment. (keep in mind that the Intellibox does not currently do mfx) I had hoped the new signals might have also played a part by being the logical place for detection (i.e. a signal is normally associated with a block) And the "O" configuration screen that can be seen but does nothing offers for some tantalizing speculation. But yes , some joining of the dots is certainly needed.
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kiwiAlan		#63 Posted : 10 January 2016 11:54:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,102 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: clapcott Originally Posted by: Hackcell Märklin needs to come up with something capable of detect which locomotive (based on loco address) is on a specific/isolated track section on the fly . This is getting into the old discussion of whether Marklin should do it themselves of if they should facilitate it. i.e. focus what you do best (make models) and leverage expertise where needed - even if that means outsourcing/licencing Currently the mfx ping response is identifiable to the controller by which booster it comes from, so there is some course identification there already. bear in mind, that as I understand it, this capability (feeding back which block a train is in using the loco feedback ID) is currently under patent protection by the Railcom system, and that is why Marklin have not pushed this capability. Others may be able to clarify this. Originally Posted by: clapcott Uhlenbrook offer (announce last year for deliver this year) an MFU module for reading information from a mFX decoder, which sounds like it could work in this environment. (keep in mind that the Intellibox does not currently do mfx) Also note that AIUI this mfx detection unit only works with the IB2, not the original IB. Originally Posted by: clapcott I had hoped the new signals might have also played a part by being the logical place for detection (i.e. a signal is normally associated with a block) And the "O" configuration screen that can be seen but does nothing offers for some tantalizing speculation. I suspect this comes back to having to pay royalties for the Railcom patent. Originally Posted by: clapcott But yes , some joining of the dots is certainly needed. Could certainly be done if royalty payments are made as I understand it.
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H0		#64 Posted : 10 January 2016 12:20:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,262 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Could certainly be done if royalty payments are made as I understand it. It ain't necessarily so. It seems Märklin do not license mfx to other companies. (I don't know which makes the Uhlenbrock mfu possible.) Maybe Lenz permits this for RailCom only and will not give licenses for use with mfx. The patent owner can use the patent for profit (sell licenses) or for exclusivity.
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vilithejou		#65 Posted : 10 January 2016 16:50:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 840 Location: Vic, Barcelona		I have received a rumor that says that the new CS3 will be black...
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kiwiAlan		#66 Posted : 10 January 2016 17:34:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,102 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Over in this thread Tom noted the cs2 has a 'yellow light' indicating temporarily out of stock. However Lokshop have been specialling off both the eCos and cs2 at Euro 599, better price if you log in to your account. As of today they only have the eCos at 599 Euro (when I log in it shows as 569) and there is no sign of the cs2 - it just isn't listed. This normally only happens when there will be no more stock available from the factory, otherwise they allow you to back order things. So my conclusion is that the cs2 is no longer available form the factory - at all!! And seeing the eCos has been specialled at the same price as the cs2 was I won't be surprised if there is a new one announced.
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kiwiAlan		#67 Posted : 10 January 2016 17:36:24(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,102 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: vilithejou I have received a rumor that says that the new CS3 will be black... Hmm, that would mean changing the colour of all the existing boosters and other ancillary items that go with it. I do wonder if they would do that.
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Thewolf		#68 Posted : 10 January 2016 17:53:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 2,035 Location: Saint Mathias dur Richelieu-Canada		Originally Posted by: vilithejou I have received a rumor that says that the new CS3 will be black... Hi all A rumor..ia a rumor The last rumor at our home is that the wife of the 4me sleeps with the neighbor of the 5me ... then? Have a nice day Thewolf
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vilithejou		#69 Posted : 10 January 2016 19:29:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 840 Location: Vic, Barcelona		Originally Posted by: Thewolf Originally Posted by: vilithejou I have received a rumor that says that the new CS3 will be black... Hi all A rumor..ia a rumor The last rumor at our home is that the wife of the 4me sleeps with the neighbor of the 5me ... then? Have a nice day Thewolf I change the word if for you is a problem The CS3 is black... . Some people form inside Marklin say me that....
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Thewolf		#70 Posted : 10 January 2016 19:37:50(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 2,035 Location: Saint Mathias dur Richelieu-Canada		Originally Posted by: vilithejou Originally Posted by: Thewolf Originally Posted by: vilithejou I have received a rumor that says that the new CS3 will be black... Hi all A rumor..ia a rumor The last rumor at our home is that the wife of the 4me sleeps with the neighbor of the 5me ... then? Have a nice day Thewolf I change the word if for you is a problem The CS3 is black... . Some people form inside Marklin say me that.... Not a problem for me...but you ..if you don't understand joke...that's your problem...not mine Thewolf
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vilithejou		#71 Posted : 10 January 2016 20:15:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 840 Location: Vic, Barcelona		Originally Posted by: Thewolf Originally Posted by: vilithejou Originally Posted by: Thewolf Originally Posted by: vilithejou I have received a rumor that says that the new CS3 will be black... Hi all A rumor..ia a rumor The last rumor at our home is that the wife of the 4me sleeps with the neighbor of the 5me ... then? Have a nice day Thewolf I change the word if for you is a problem The CS3 is black... . Some people form inside Marklin say me that.... Not a problem for me...but you ..if you don't understand joke...that's your problem...not mine Thewolf I'm undestand a joke,.... I'm not angry... only confirm the rumor.
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Bigdaddynz		#72 Posted : 10 January 2016 20:43:28(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,663 Location: New Zealand		Maybe it is only a rumor, but Joan has been quite accurate with previous information that he has presented here in the forum. Not long to wait now for the Neuheiten information - assuming it comes this week!
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Bigdaddynz		#73 Posted : 10 January 2016 20:46:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,663 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: vilithejou I have received a rumor that says that the new CS3 will be black... Hmm, that would mean changing the colour of all the existing boosters and other ancillary items that go with it. I do wonder if they would do that. If there is a new controller, i.e. CS3, there's bound to be new boosters following close behind........... A change of colour wouldn't matter then and even if you mixed and match black components with grey it wouldn't be the end of the world. I suspect the colour change might be part of a re-branding exercise!
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vilithejou		#74 Posted : 10 January 2016 20:59:15(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/01/2004(UTC) Posts: 840 Location: Vic, Barcelona		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Maybe it is only a rumor, but Joan has been quite accurate with previous information that he has presented here in the forum. Not long to wait now for the Neuheiten information - assuming it comes this week! It is also posibile that my sources I did not tell the truth ... but I belive that...
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steventrain		#75 Posted : 10 January 2016 21:22:20(UTC) Retweet
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mbarreto		#76 Posted : 10 January 2016 23:12:16(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 18/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 1,265		I will not buy it in first year, almost sure, but I would like it be black or blue with the knobs (will it have some? ) like the Intellibox. Physical size and dimensions like Ecos, wifi with 802.11ac, much faster than current CS2s, use of current CS2 power supplies, railcom+, always in english or portuguese (fifth most natively spoken language in the world https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_language) from the start of any release, screens for bigger of simultaneous loco control, etc, etc... Price is already horrible...
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kiwiAlan		#77 Posted : 10 January 2016 23:42:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,102 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		I'll add another possible feature for folk to chew on: - Maybe it has an HDMI connector so you can connect a large screen. Maybe this is what the non+ version is about - you have to supply the screen.
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Bigdaddynz		#78 Posted : 11 January 2016 00:07:27(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,663 Location: New Zealand		Hmmmm, better move the 55' Sony from my workroom upstairs to the train room downstairs! On the other hand, maybe not. That thing is quite heavy and was a pain to lift up and mount it on the wall by myself (some 1 Gauge loco boxes came in real handy!)
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Bigdaddynz		#79 Posted : 12 January 2016 20:54:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,663 Location: New Zealand		So Stephen, given you have the full 2016 new items information, which bits regarding the CS3 did we get right?
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Hackcell		#80 Posted : 13 January 2016 01:41:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/11/2013(UTC) Posts: 521		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz So Stephen, given you have the full 2016 new items information, which bits regarding the CS3 did we get right?
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Thewolf		#81 Posted : 13 January 2016 14:14:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 2,035 Location: Saint Mathias dur Richelieu-Canada		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan I'll add another possible feature for folk to chew on: - Maybe it has an HDMI connector so you can connect a large screen. Maybe this is what the non+ version is about - you have to supply the screen. I hope so Thewolf
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db ice3		#82 Posted : 14 January 2016 06:50:56(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/12/2009(UTC) Posts: 178 Location: uk		from the pics new cs3 looks fantastic - very sleek and up to date! but seeing as i still havent updated my cs2 for about 3 years and it still works fine ... i dont think ill be rushing out to buy the 1st of the cs3... it will be nice if i can use my cs2 as a slave to the new cs 3 eventually for hands on direct control of trains 3 and 4!
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db ice3		#83 Posted : 14 January 2016 06:58:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 24/12/2009(UTC) Posts: 178 Location: uk		Originally Posted by: nitramretep Thanks Marklin; just purchased a CS 2 about three months ago. I guess it will make a great paper weight. I have always purchased Marklin locomotives, carriages and freight stock but I am beginning to wonder as to their commitment to the consumer, at least in the US. ESU looks better and better when I think about this CS3 release coming less than year after investing nearly a $1K! when you were buying your cs2, didnt it occur to you that cs 2 has been out now for a long long time and that a new model WILL come out at some point? ... yours is a statement which you ususally hear from someone that needs to have the Latest gadget ( mobile phone springs to mind! ) rather the the controller ( or phone! ) which best suits their needs... and gets upset when apple / samsung / marklin bring out a newer model just after they bought theirs - suddenly their bragging rights down the pub have vanished lol. its same as if you bought a new car / washing machine / mobile phone / food mixer ... almost everything gets a replacement newer version at some point. it doenst make the controller / car / food mixer you have just bought any less useful. enjoy your cs2 - many people would be very happy if they could even afford one!
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oranda		#84 Posted : 14 January 2016 11:24:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/04/2014(UTC) Posts: 122 Location: ENGLAND		Originally Posted by: db ice3 from the pics new cs3 looks fantastic - very sleek and up to date! but seeing as i still havent updated my cs2 for about 3 years and it still works fine ... i dont think ill be rushing out to buy the 1st of the cs3... it will be nice if i can use my cs2 as a slave to the new cs 3 eventually for hands on direct control of trains 3 and 4! Where are the CS3 pics that you've mentioned? I'd love to see them.
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arnpao		#85 Posted : 14 January 2016 11:44:41(UTC) Retweet
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xxup		#86 Posted : 14 January 2016 12:20:42(UTC) Retweet
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jeehring		#87 Posted : 14 January 2016 15:26:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		.....On this black model the screen seems to be a bit bigger than the current one....but, may be it's a fake....the difference of price between 2 models could be the price of a special router or a kind of connection box including some other special Wireless connections .....may be ....(quite expensive for a single router)
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oranda		#88 Posted : 14 January 2016 16:25:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/04/2014(UTC) Posts: 122 Location: ENGLAND		The Märklin iPhone app has the latest 2016 catalogue/database and in it the CS3 plus is illustrated. No mention of W-IFI though Its more an update of the 60215 rather than any great new innovations.
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jeehring		#89 Posted : 14 January 2016 17:05:36(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		one thing is sure : no more function keys ( too expensive) all on the screen (cost effective)! Probably other types of "savings" more....
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Best Ripper		#90 Posted : 14 January 2016 17:21:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 13/11/2015(UTC) Posts: 19 Location: Grad Sofia, Sofia		The New Central station was just introduced on Marklin youtube channel... Enjoy! Edited by moderator 14 January 2016 21:28:57(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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kiwiAlan		#91 Posted : 14 January 2016 17:36:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,102 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Just so the links are liberally sprinkled ... Brochures at links given here ...
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kiwiAlan		#92 Posted : 14 January 2016 17:37:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,102 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: Best Ripper The New Central station was just introduced on Marklin youtube channel... Enjoy! And the brochures are at the links given here. (Why don't people keep up with the other topics on the cs3 ???)
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steventrain		#93 Posted : 14 January 2016 19:25:00(UTC) Retweet
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clapcott		#94 Posted : 14 January 2016 20:08:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,433 Location: Wellington, New_Zealand		I see 2 main differences between the CS3 60226 and the CS3plus 60216 (Personally I would have preferred naming them CS3lite and CS3) 1) S88 Local The CS3plus = 60216 (Big Brother) includes a S88 RJ45 connection, the CS3 (LittleBrother) = 60226 does not. Comment: It is unknown from doco is if this is 5V or 12V , and whether 6088/60880 supported (6 pin flat needing an adapter cable the opposite of 60884) 2) Unit as a Slave The CS3(60226) CANNOT be used as a slave (like the CS2 can) because it has lost the "Bus In" connection and replaced it with a 2nd direct connection. The CS3plus(60216) CAN be a slave, because it has the "Bus In" port - (this is at the minor expense of losing one direct connect port) Comment: Marketing have done their usual stuff up and caused confusion by mixing the images of the rear plug panel. In the promo Video and page 151 of the EN new items, you can see 2 DIN connectors - one = 6 pin (Bus In used with 60123 cable), - one = 7 pin (used by Boosters and Mobile stations with 60124 cable)) BUT with the same label icon above both ports. The "Labeling" is consistent with the CS3(60226) specs for 2 direct connect (7 pin) BUT the actual "socket" image is consistent with the CS3plus(60216) Conversely, The WebShop images for both products (CS3plus AND CS3) show the label icon and sockets for a CS3plus(60216). i.e. has an "in Bus" port - which is misleading because the CS3 does not have this capability. Edited by user 15 January 2016 00:09:26(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Bigdaddynz		#95 Posted : 14 January 2016 21:28:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,663 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: Best Ripper The New Central station was just introduced on Marklin youtube channel... Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan (Why don't people keep up with the other topics on the cs3 ???) The topic merge feature of the forum software isn't working too well, I will have to fiddle around a bit to merge them. But yes, it would be good for folks to read the current topics first before posting to make sure they are not duplicating topics.
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Bigdaddynz		#96 Posted : 14 January 2016 21:36:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,663 Location: New Zealand		Topics now merged.
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Karl Gunnar Sjöqvist		#97 Posted : 15 January 2016 14:14:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 07/01/2016(UTC) Posts: 13		Originally Posted by: oranda The Märklin iPhone app has the latest 2016 catalogue/database and in it the CS3 plus is illustrated. No mention of W-IFI though Its more an update of the 60215 rather than any great new innovations. Wi-Fi Connection will be possible through a router, and as the CS will have to be connected with cables anyway a network cable will not make much difference. If you want wireless freedom it is better provided by an app in a mobile device (phone or tablet). The problem with wireless technology is that it evolves and all special devices will be outdated in a few years. Certainly CS3 is not a giant leap for mankind, but backwards compatibility is rather good - and proven technology is more reliable... If the retail price is about 600€ I can at least consider a purchase (but 'I have only a MS2 right now).
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H0		#98 Posted : 15 January 2016 14:42:17(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,262 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: H0 Some more hot air: Maybe some legacy ports will be gone: SX port, 6015/6017 port, S88 port. Maybe loco cards only with the plus edition. Three USB ports, not just one, would be nice. RailCom+ and LocoNet would be nice - but I don't believe that. RRP is lower by 50 Euros. If there are any new "ports" then maybe WLAN. Maybe new power supplies for Z gauge and N gauge with lower voltages.[,,,] No WLAN. Three USB ports, but one only supplies power. Loco cards supported by both editions. I think my guess was not bad. In the presentation video they use a plastic stylus to show components. As I understand it the plastic stylus no longer works with the new touch screen.
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Dgriman		#99 Posted : 15 January 2016 16:33:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/04/2008(UTC) Posts: 119 Location: Alimos		Hi All, I can't see actually any true operational diff between cs2 and sc3+ As I understand things, 1. the build in s88 Connection sounds to me that cs3+ include a small version of L88, that supports the NEW s88 with Ethernet. So maybe the old flat ribbon cable is a history, except if you want to use the original L88 with connection to can bus. 2. the bigger screen is useless, because the make screen bigger but they remove the function buttons, so if you want to use them you will take space from the screen as they are virtually. 3. 32 functions for each locomotive !!!! Sorry m, I'm not looking to be octopus to use one locomotive, pulling the virtually switch to find that Special one function to hear the 4th horn, while wearing my classes for close reading. 4. how many versions of CS3... we are going to see, we had 3 versions of cs2 (60213 ~ 60215) with many hardware versions for each of them .... !!! 5. what do you think about that "Central Station 3 plus is multiple device capable" what do you think it means, interconnections between many cs3+ to share the layout, or to be together one next to other making one big screen extended to many CS3+ ? 6. and last, my true worries are about software updates, I hope the new software that will come in the future, for updates of cs3, to continue support also the old version of sc2 and not become outdated. the same also with the upcoming decoders, supporting modules, locos etc... Dimitris
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Dgriman		#100 Posted : 15 January 2016 16:57:53(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/04/2008(UTC) Posts: 119 Location: Alimos		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan Originally Posted by: vilithejou I have received a rumor that says that the new CS3 will be black... Hmm, that would mean changing the colour of all the existing boosters and other ancillary items that go with it. I do wonder if they would do that. You are right, all the modules and mobile are black, you can see them on page 146 and after, of new items catalog 2016 (EN version), new numbers (60116, 60657, etc)
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