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steventrain		#1 Posted : 06 January 2016 18:08:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		The new 60226 CS3 and 60216 CS3Plus is now as planned. 60216 Central Station CS3plus 799 EUR 60226 central station CS3 649 EUR Edited by user 14 June 2016 13:15:43(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Thewolf		#2 Posted : 06 January 2016 19:06:34(UTC) Retweet
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morsing		#3 Posted : 06 January 2016 20:07:48(UTC) Retweet
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kgsjoqvist		#4 Posted : 06 January 2016 20:43:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 04/06/2002(UTC) Posts: 754 Location: Täby		Originally Posted by: steventrain The new 60226 CS3 and 60216 CS3Plus is now as planned. 60216 Central Station CS3plus 799 EUR 60226 central station CS3 649 EUR Originally Posted by: morsing Hopefully I can get a cheap 60215 now! The UVP for both models is cheaper than 60215 (849 EUR) if these prices are true. And CS2 is now no longer available from Märklin. But of course there will be a few available from dealers. Personally I would wait for the CS3 first to see what it has to offer. Plus seems like a bigger screen and/or better connectivity. OR maybe power output differs...
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H0		#5 Posted : 06 January 2016 21:06:04(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,263 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: kgsjoqvist And CS2 is now no longer available from Märklin. Product database shows yellow light ("Article temporarily not in stock"), which usually means that the article will be available again. And I think dealers have several CS2 starter sets in stocks and will sell them complete or split.
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Sander van Wijk		#6 Posted : 06 January 2016 21:20:02(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 20/04/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,248 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands; Göteborg, Sverige,		Interesting. We'll find out more in a week or so... In the meantime, this might have something to do with it: see patent . This patent seems to suggest a WLAN or Bluetooth connection with locos is being considered. Also perhaps some Z21-like concept? There's also an older application suggesting flex C-track; so I guess we cannot safely assume that each patent application filed by Märklin directly leads to concrete products. Märklin is in that sense like every other innovating company... Kind regards,
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Bigdaddynz		#7 Posted : 06 January 2016 21:34:01(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,663 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: steventrain NEW CS3 and CS3Plus on way! Oh dear, here we go.........! Yet another way to extract hard earned cash from everyone's pockets...... Let's hope they include all of the features in it from Day 1 instead of giving us 3 different version like the CS2 (60213, 60214 and 60215). And let's hope they get the backward compatibility, i.e. CS2 (I doubt they will do it for CS1) working as a remote controller to CS3. I've already got a collection of controllers - 6021, CS1, CS2, Ecos..........now there's another to add to the pile! Yay! (I feel like a Minion giving a halfhearted Yay!) No one has asked, so I will - Stephen, what is the source of your information?
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morsing		#8 Posted : 06 January 2016 21:47:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/08/2014(UTC) Posts: 586 Location: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire		Originally Posted by: kgsjoqvist Originally Posted by: steventrain The new 60226 CS3 and 60216 CS3Plus is now as planned. 60216 Central Station CS3plus 799 EUR 60226 central station CS3 649 EUR Originally Posted by: morsing Hopefully I can get a cheap 60215 now! The UVP for both models is cheaper than 60215 (849 EUR) if these prices are true. And CS2 is now no longer available from Märklin. But of course there will be a few available from dealers. Personally I would wait for the CS3 first to see what it has to offer. Plus seems like a bigger screen and/or better connectivity. OR maybe power output differs... Hi, What I meant was everyone will be flogging their 2nd hand 60215s on Ebay when this comes out! Maybe I can pick one up for a couple of hundred :-)
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steventrain		#9 Posted : 06 January 2016 21:57:14(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz No one has asked, so I will - Stephen, what is the source of your information? http://www.maerklinshop..../central-station-cs3plus No image and detail at the moment. Maybe a Real look cab Control like the Roco.
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kiwiAlan		#10 Posted : 06 January 2016 22:47:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,103 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		And goofy has been proved wrong again ... there are 2 cs3's, not one ... and he hasn't commented here yet ...
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Mark5		#11 Posted : 06 January 2016 22:48:41(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/01/2012(UTC) Posts: 1,420 Location: Montreal, Canada		That was my thought, but you may think about wanting to get the CS3 if the new features prove worth it. It will probably take a while before the CS2 ebay glut makes it available for $200 or so, since the CS1 still goes for more. Originally Posted by: morsing What I meant was everyone will be flogging their 2nd hand 60215s on Ebay when this comes out! Maybe I can pick one up for a couple of hundred :-)
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Bigdaddynz		#12 Posted : 06 January 2016 23:02:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,663 Location: New Zealand		Will there now be an MS3??
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Wal		#13 Posted : 06 January 2016 23:10:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 07/09/2012(UTC) Posts: 67 Location: Sydney		[......Plus seems like a bigger screen and/or better connectivity. OR maybe power output differs...] I live in hope that the power output does differ so that we can use it without modification to support 12V Z scale....But maybe I'm just dreaming Cheers, Wal
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kiwiAlan		#14 Posted : 06 January 2016 23:19:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,103 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz Will there now be an MS3?? I think this thread needs to be merged with that thread. Why we have two threads i fail to see when one would do.
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Bigdaddynz		#15 Posted : 06 January 2016 23:36:59(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,663 Location: New Zealand		I think the other thread has got off topic a bit - it is meant to be about the CS2 no longer being available.
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Bigdaddynz		#16 Posted : 07 January 2016 00:35:12(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,663 Location: New Zealand		I would hope that any new Marklin CS would have a Loconet interface (selectable between Master and Slave device), and have 8 amp boosters available for large G1 layouts. There's another thought - will there be new 60175 boosters for H0 use??
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Danlake		#17 Posted : 07 January 2016 03:09:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/08/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,571		Well that is a surprised to me. My hope/wish is that we get a higher power output - maybe 4 amps. My impression is that most US DCC controllers are happily operating (and promoting) up to 5 amps on HO scale. I would imagine with the more focus on layout automation in recent updates, we may see some fundamental changes to software? Maybe it finally will be able to keep track of each loco on the layout (and not only just follow an trigger/event logic). Or maybe the plus (+) signifies more interactive gaming? Brgds Lasse
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Bigdaddynz		#18 Posted : 07 January 2016 04:30:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,663 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: Danlake My hope/wish is that we get a higher power output - maybe 4 amps. The current 60215 CS2 outputs 5 amps with the appropriate 60100 power supply. I can't see the new CS3 being any less than that.
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Goofy		#19 Posted : 07 January 2016 05:35:57(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,012		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan And goofy has been proved wrong again ... there are 2 cs3's, not one ... and he hasn't commented here yet ... What proved wrong!? Not even Stevetrain did present two of them! I was surprised about two new difference CS3. I think CS3plus stand for the similar cab,while the CS3 present without.
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xxup		#20 Posted : 07 January 2016 08:59:38(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 15/03/2003(UTC) Posts: 9,463 Location: Australia		I am wondering if these new CS units are tablets that talk to a common base station - hence the term plus.. We have iPhone 6 plus as an example of a phone with a bigger screen that the iPhone 6, but otherwise functionally identical.. Maybe the base CS3 has only one knob, while the plus has two knobs.. Ah the speculation! In any case, the secrecy around this thing is great - how can they develop this without anyone leaking information? Was it all built and designed in China?
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river6109		#21 Posted : 07 January 2016 09:33:34(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,715 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Adrian, not so long ago they've announced some partnership with a company in either Malaysia or the Philippines if I remember correct but this was before the resurrection of Märklin and as German Companies, everything has to be produced in Germany, so there could be also a surprise and it may not come from the Far East. Besides all the speculations, is it really necessary to produce so many variants and will it again show how many sheep are out there to follow the endless stream of updates and so called user friendly improvements. and who is thriving for more sound slots ? instead having a system whereas the sound slots can be externally activated. I have some of mine already integrated into the program mapping. is there really such an appetite out there for us to be bombarded with these new gadgets ? may be as I'm not one of the mobile phone freaks but than I could be one of the few who are not up to date with new arrivals and some of the new technology available to get your trains started while still in the office or while you're on holidays down the beach or in your hotel room and you're getting bored and just log onto your layout (standard withdrawal symptoms). I may sit on the fence and see all the comments and speculations unfolding and when the product finally arrives so see the feedback it gets and there will be most probably a lot of "WHY" questions. John
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H0		#22 Posted : 07 January 2016 09:35:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,263 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: xxup Was it all built and designed in China? When the CS2 was announced they also praised the cheap production in Malaysia. But who makes CS3?
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river6109		#23 Posted : 07 January 2016 09:53:06(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,715 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: xxup Was it all built and designed in China? When the CS2 was announced they also praised the cheap production in Malaysia. But who makes CS3? Tom, I didn't know this, it has ever came to a fruition` (CS 2) John
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Bigdaddynz		#24 Posted : 07 January 2016 10:41:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,663 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: river6109 Is there really such an appetite out there for us to be bombarded with these new gadgets ?..............there will be most probably a lot of "WHY" questions. This more or less sums up my feelings about a CS3......... Yay! I'm not sure why we need another CSx, other than to fill Marklin's pockets. I guess we will know more when the Neuheiten is released, then we will find out what it really is, what the '+' version is and whether there are any significant advances over existing controllers. I may well get one eventually, if only to understand the new technology but given the existing CS2 is only 8 years old I'm not sure if we have got the full benefit out of that platform as yet.
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kiwiAlan		#25 Posted : 07 January 2016 10:51:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,103 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: H0 Originally Posted by: xxup Was it all built and designed in China? When the CS2 was announced they also praised the cheap production in Malaysia. But who makes CS3? The first leak of the cs2 was when the company that did the case design for it won an award, and suddenly there were all these pictures of a Marklin controller that no-one had heard of all over the web on non-Marklin sites. The Marklin had to come forward and say 'yes this is our new controller, that is why the cs1 has been out of production'.
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kiwiAlan		#26 Posted : 07 January 2016 10:55:43(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,103 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz I'm not sure why we need another CSx, other than to fill Marklin's pockets. I guess we will know more when the Neuheiten is released, then we will find out what it really is, what the '+' version is and whether there are any significant advances over existing controllers. I may well get one eventually, if only to understand the new technology but given the existing CS2 is only 8 years old I'm not sure if we have got the full benefit out of that platform as yet. The cs2 is decidedly slow, and with more layouts around with 100+ locos, when you put a new loco on the track while things are operating it just cannot identify a new mfx loco. I suspect that the cs3 will have a lot more computing grunt to deal with these large layouts, probably by using a multi-core processor with a higher clock speed. If this is the case I know one person who will have one of the first units around.
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H0		#27 Posted : 07 January 2016 10:56:09(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,263 Location: DE-NW		Yesterday products 60216 and 60226 could be found in the webshop. As of now they no longer can be found. An unintended leak?
		Regards Tom --- "In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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Shamu		#28 Posted : 07 January 2016 10:57:47(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/07/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,068 Location: In a building site in Yeppoon		As I may have said previously I'm more inclined to think the new CSx is most likely driven by parts availability than any real desire to replace it. Of course until we see one in the flesh its all conjecture as to what it exactly is. At the prices quoted I would be somewhat tempted to think a track box/router style setup connected by WiFi to a computer and or tablet for the base unit and something similar to the current one for the "plus". Only the shadow knows .
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Shamu		#29 Posted : 07 January 2016 10:59:26(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/07/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,068 Location: In a building site in Yeppoon		Originally Posted by: H0 Yesterday products 60216 and 60226 could be found in the webshop. As of now they no longer can be found. An unintended leak? Or Marklin winding Goofy up
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Bigdaddynz		#30 Posted : 07 January 2016 11:08:11(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,663 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: H0 Yesterday products 60216 and 60226 could be found in the webshop. As of now they no longer can be found. An unintended leak? They were there this morning NZ time - last time I looked was around midday (it is just after 11pm now). Definitely ain't there now!
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Bigdaddynz		#31 Posted : 07 January 2016 11:12:40(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,663 Location: New Zealand		Originally Posted by: kiwiAlan The cs2 is decidedly slow, and with more layouts around with 100+ locos, when you put a new loco on the track while things are operating it just cannot identify a new mfx loco. Maybe, but given that there probably aren't many layouts that can run 100 locos at the same time (unless you're Miniature in Wonderland) that would come down to a management/housekeeping issue. I would hope that for 800 euro I would get more than just a faster processor.
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siroljuk		#32 Posted : 07 January 2016 11:13:03(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 29/10/2010(UTC) Posts: 377		Hello! I hope that Märklin finally makes all texts also in English language when they release new Control device. I look forward to seeing what new features the new device will bring. Hopefully some new connections to different digital devices like bigger screen, WiFi, Bluetooth keyboard etc. Mostly I still wait for better possibilities to program that new device and it's properties. And of course more power to handle new features. ( I mean better processor and more memory and means to use bigger memory, other features than routes too). I assume that Märklin makes good connection possibilities between CS2 and new device so that devices could be used in parallel at the same time. The new device has a lot of expectations, I hope at least someone realized. Meanwhile Happy Training everyone Regards Jukka
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Goofy		#33 Posted : 07 January 2016 11:13:13(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,012		Originally Posted by: xxup I am wondering if these new CS units are tablets that talk to a common base station - hence the term plus.. We have iPhone 6 plus as an example of a phone with a bigger screen that the iPhone 6, but otherwise functionally identical.. Maybe the base CS3 has only one knob, while the plus has two knobs.. Ah the speculation! In any case, the secrecy around this thing is great - how can they develop this without anyone leaking information? Was it all built and designed in China? I think Adrian possible do have right. CS3plus are probably bigger screen than CS3, but both of them are similar same function.
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Bigdaddynz		#34 Posted : 07 January 2016 11:20:08(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,663 Location: New Zealand		Or maybe CS3+ comes with a tablet based screen in the box, CS3 is for those who already have tablets............ We can speculate all we like, but until we know for sure it is all hot air! When is the Neuheiten due?
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H0		#35 Posted : 07 January 2016 13:25:07(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,263 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz When is the Neuheiten due? Dealer MMC invites people to a new item presentation with DVD show and brochures for January 16. When the printed brochures are in the shops by January 16, then we should have the PDF earlier than that. We can speculate about the day. Friday this week, Monday or Tuesday next week, Friday next week?
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H0		#36 Posted : 07 January 2016 13:34:25(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 16/02/2004(UTC) Posts: 15,263 Location: DE-NW		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz We can speculate all we like, but until we know for sure it is all hot air! Some more hot air: Maybe some legacy ports will be gone: SX port, 6015(6017 port, S88 port. Maybe loco cards only with the plus edition. Three USB ports, not just one, would be nice. RailCom+ and LocoNet would be nice - but I don't believe that. RRP is lower by 50 Euros. If there are any new "ports" then maybe WLAN. Maybe new power supplies for Z gauge and N gauge with lower voltages. With RailCom+ and LocoNet the CS3 would be an upgrade option for Intellibox users, maybe even for ECoS users. But normally Märklin do not follow industrial standards, they try to set new industrial standards. Maybe digital Z gauge models will be the real big surprise while the CS3 is a facelift, not a big surprise. Just more hot air.
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Danlake		#37 Posted : 07 January 2016 16:42:54(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 03/08/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,571		I send a friendly email to the guys at Marklin digital club and got a very friendly email back. There is no official news they can pass on at the moment, but as soon as they are able they will provide some updates. But as I understand the announcement will be made at the Nuremberg toy fair end month. Brgds - Lasse
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river6109		#38 Posted : 07 January 2016 17:20:44(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,715 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		I can't wait and see what Märklin brings, and than I'll wait what people think, and than I'll wait what people write about it and than I wait until rumors surface for a CS 4 and than it is time to say: enough is enough. John
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jeehring		#39 Posted : 07 January 2016 18:23:48(UTC) Retweet
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steventrain		#40 Posted : 07 January 2016 18:27:18(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		Originally Posted by: jeehring ....more description probably linked with Nuremberg toy fair ? If not present, Will have wait until Summer or Fall.
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steventrain		#41 Posted : 07 January 2016 18:28:49(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 31,606 Location: United Kingdom		For Gauge 1 fan will be new E18/E118 Electric locomotives.
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kiwiAlan		#42 Posted : 07 January 2016 21:11:10(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 23/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 8,103 Location: ENGLAND, Didcot		Originally Posted by: steventrain Originally Posted by: jeehring ....more description probably linked with Nuremberg toy fair ? If not present, Will have wait until Summer or Fall. Seeing it has been leaked now (presumably deliberately) I would expect it to be announced at Nurnberg, even if it isn't available until the end of the year.
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oranda		#43 Posted : 07 January 2016 21:32:37(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/04/2014(UTC) Posts: 122 Location: ENGLAND		I can't see the link on the Märklin web site either, so it was almost certainly there to stir up interest amongst devotees of the brand. As a thought isn't it about time that feedback sensors, signals etc were made portable and wireless? Just imagine a compact unit that could be placed discreetly about a layout. We then could all benefit from simple feedback to CSX's instead of the established spaghetti of wirework. Isn't that what going digital should be about, replacing old cumbersome systems?
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Thewolf		#44 Posted : 07 January 2016 22:20:21(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 08/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 2,035 Location: Saint Mathias dur Richelieu-Canada		Originally Posted by: Thewolf Thank you Steven What are the differences between the 2 centrals please ? Thewolf I I had asked Steve which were the differences between 2 new CS .. but no answers ... I suppose that there n is nothing about it on the net....I searched ...nothing Thewolf
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Bigdaddynz		#45 Posted : 08 January 2016 00:02:48(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 18,663 Location: New Zealand		No, there are no details available from Märklin as yet so we don't know what the differences are.
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jeehring		#46 Posted : 08 January 2016 12:05:31(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		Originally Posted by: oranda (....)....benefit from simple feedback to CSX's instead of the established spaghetti of wirework. Isn't that what going digital should be about, replacing old cumbersome systems? oh yes, it should ! I've been dreaming about it for years !
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jeehring		#47 Posted : 08 January 2016 12:10:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 25/09/2003(UTC) Posts: 2,786 Location: ,		Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz No, there are no details available from Märklin as yet so we don't know what the differences are. with or without THE suplementary box as a receiving unit to establish Wireless connectivity also requiring the use of new decoders or small modules to convert older ones ...may be
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river6109		#48 Posted : 08 January 2016 12:53:58(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 22/01/2009(UTC) Posts: 14,715 Location: On 1965 Märklin Boulevard just around from Roco Square		this is one reason after a 2 year consideration process, I've decided to buy the ECoS, to use my motorola system with the new Märklin digital system was a nightmare as the member above described it and so did I years ago: spaghetti junction. I hope Mr. Lenz comes up with a new concept as he already indicated a couple of years ago, digital components should be simpler and all of these programming option should be integrated within the system. John
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Goofy		#49 Posted : 08 January 2016 13:34:20(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 12/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 9,012		Originally Posted by: river6109 this is one reason after a 2 year consideration process, I've decided to buy the ECoS, to use my motorola system with the new Märklin digital system was a nightmare as the member above described it and so did I years ago: spaghetti junction. I hope Mr. Lenz comes up with a new concept as he already indicated a couple of years ago, digital components should be simpler and all of these programming option should be integrated within the system. John I agree with you! I still waiting too about Lenz new digital system,but it seems problem for the Lenz company.
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oranda		#50 Posted : 08 January 2016 15:51:23(UTC) Retweet
Joined: 21/04/2014(UTC) Posts: 122 Location: ENGLAND		If I was to have a CSX, then I'd prefer to have it interfaced with and controlled by a PC/MAC. The current display which many commented on here, would not then be an issue, also a lot of the processing could be done by the computer and the CSX could then be dedicated to seeing and receiving data from the layout, locomotives, sensors etc.. The power of the CSX processor would then be less of an issue. If Märklin brings out the CS3 in 2016 will Ecos be doing something similar?
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