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Offline thomasm  
#1 Posted : 19 June 2015 09:31:36(UTC)
thomasm

Norway   
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Hi,

I've recently acquired a 48295 Heavy Duty Car and a 18820 Heavy Duty Road Vehicle. My "problem" are to locate the best loco to pull this wagon.
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I've been thinking of getting one of the following:
Marklin 37726 Diesel Locomotives in Multiple Unit Operation.
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Marklin 37905 DB AG DIESELLOK BR 294 RAILION.
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NMJ DI-8
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Any other suggestions?

.thomas
Märklinist, hobbyist and collector. || Trains are meant to be driven.
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Offline Carim  
#2 Posted : 19 June 2015 10:09:42(UTC)
Carim

United Kingdom   
Joined: 15/09/2014(UTC)
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Location: London
How about a Br 225?

You can see the prototype on YouTube: "A transformer with heavy transport of BR 225 on Sunday morning Clock 5.30 " by "DB Systemtechnik Minden Fan"

Kind regards,
Carim
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Offline RayF  
#3 Posted : 19 June 2015 12:43:47(UTC)
RayF

Gibraltar   
Joined: 14/03/2005(UTC)
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Location: Gibraltar, Europe
How about one of the new Vossloh G2000 locos? The Marklin models will be coming out in the next few months.

I think the 37200 Railion version would suit.

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Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
Offline H0  
#4 Posted : 19 June 2015 16:47:05(UTC)
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Hi all!
Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
I think the 37200 Railion version would suit.
An Italian loco for a German Heavy Load Car? That one would not be my choice.

A Google search finds several pictures:
https://www.google.de/se...g..6.13.1500.ChgTq5pm5uA

One sees the usual traffic red locos: 225, 232, 290, 145, 151, 185.
Regards
Tom
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"In all of the gauges, we particularly emphasize a high level of quality, the best possible fidelity to the prototype, and absolute precision. You will see that in all of our products." (from Märklin New Items Brochure 2015, page 1) ROFLBTCUTS
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Offline RayF  
#5 Posted : 19 June 2015 17:35:41(UTC)
RayF

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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Hi all!
Originally Posted by: RayF Go to Quoted Post
I think the 37200 Railion version would suit.
An Italian loco for a German Heavy Load Car? That one would not be my choice.

A Google search finds several pictures:
https://www.google.de/se...g..6.13.1500.ChgTq5pm5uA

One sees the usual traffic red locos: 225, 232, 290, 145, 151, 185.


Sorry, I always assume all Railion locos would be seen in Germany. I guess you really have to read the small print to find out where they are really from.

Ray
Mostly Marklin.Selection of different eras and European railways
Small C track layout, control by MS2, 100+ trains but run 4-5 at a time.
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Offline witzlerh  
#6 Posted : 19 June 2015 21:17:39(UTC)
witzlerh

Canada   
Joined: 25/09/2010(UTC)
Posts: 417
Location: Sherwood Park, AB, Canada
Congratulations! That is indeed a rare car. Your choices for loks are good but you may have to do a MU (double them up)

Prototypical, there were no "dedicated" locomotives. However I do know that there are select loks that had additional slow speed modifications done to them....whether lower gear ration on older loks or just finer speed controls. This was necessary as sometimes the load would need to go 1 kph on tight areas. We have this feature common on our loks that have the switching function that essentially cuts our speed in half for the knob range.
Also, a strong single locomotive was used so either a heavy switcher or a mainline lok was used. MU has been done but slow speed control would be more difficult.

A consist would have the lok followed by some lighter cars then the schnabel and then a van, caboose or crew vehicle. Long distance moves would also contain a work car so that spare parts can be readily available. The number of lighter cars was determined if there were longer bridges so that the weight of the train was more distributed and also to provide extra braking power. The lighter cars were not empty flat cars but neither where they fully loaded ore cars. It was enough weight to keep the cars on the track and to provide extra braking. I would recommend that you you metal frame cars on your layout as spacer cars. The all plastic cars will cause problems.

My dad has the schnabel car and it is fun. However if you only want to run a single lok, you will need a heavy lok with good tires. Our favorite puller is the ludmilla. The 294 choice is more prototypical but we found that it was not a strong puller and needed help. Marklin loks are usually heavy but I have some other loks that are lighter and just do not have the traction to move the schnabel through the curves and switches. (I made a triple MU of Koff and that barely was enough to get it going)

One of the more interesting manoevers was when you have to transfer the schnabel from the rails to the road. The schnable would be backed over a switch, the switch then switched below the load and the 2nd truck assembly would go on the diverging track. The load would then be lowered onto the ground between the rails, the arms raised off the rail truck and then moved away so that the road trucks could come in and have the schnabel arms lower onto them and then lift the load and move off.

A piece of advice, the pins at the schnable arms are very difficult to remove once installed onto the trucks, perhaps give the T a slight chamfer to make it easier to pop off and on.

Enjoy!



Harald
CS2 DB & Canadian Era 3-6
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Offline Tom Jessop  
#7 Posted : 23 June 2015 06:28:56(UTC)
Tom Jessop

Australia   
Joined: 14/12/2002(UTC)
Posts: 800
Location: Newcastle NSW Australia
Full scale version of this road model is on TV in Oz tonight , Channel 63 7 mate . There is a preview on facebook & the program would be available later tonight for overseas viewers on 7 catchup after midnight Oz time.


Facebook preview https://www.facebook.com...722473451232579/?fref=nf

7 mate catchup http://www.tvcatchupaustralia.com/7mate



Happy Viewing Tom in Oz
Offline Tom Jessop  
#8 Posted : 23 June 2015 13:22:13(UTC)
Tom Jessop

Australia   
Joined: 14/12/2002(UTC)
Posts: 800
Location: Newcastle NSW Australia


Looks like I have jumped the gun with the date of the show , I will make further enquires with the son who told me about the program. Sorry for being too fast without checking first .


Cheers Tom in Oz
Offline GlennM  
#9 Posted : 26 June 2015 14:30:33(UTC)
GlennM

United Kingdom   
Joined: 09/05/2011(UTC)
Posts: 2,877
Location: Somewhere, But Nowhere Near Manchester, England
This was my choice BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin

Don't look back, your not heading that way.
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