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Offline analogmike  
#1 Posted : 12 August 2016 19:46:44(UTC)
analogmike

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Hello boys;

I've got this small mountain of M-track from three different time periods ready to hit the layout.
Of course the really crummy stuff goes in the tunnels.
Do I;
1. Sort them out and lay them in different locations for a more consistent look?
2. Don't sort them and mix em up like I always do?
3. Does anybody care?
4. Am I nuts for asking?

Mikey

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Offline waltklatt  
#2 Posted : 12 August 2016 21:20:11(UTC)
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Well....LOL
It's a funny thing.
Crummy stuff in the tunnels, only if they are good pieces that wont cause derailments (hard to access)
You can mix up the variations of color for a realistic vintage look.
Real trains have different colored trackbeds, depending on the ballast colors and dumpings/deposits from the trains.
Oil/gunk/odd?? stains here and there are never consistent.
So it's all in the eye of the beholder....

I myself am unhappy with the small single step spacers that have one or two ties to fill a small gap in the usual tracks.
But, what can one do....

Just be glad you can run a train and enjoy it.

When younger, I used to love stepping on the toilet lever on the floor and watching the ties blur past in the old SBB, DB and OBB trains.

Walter
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Offline cookee_nz  
#3 Posted : 12 August 2016 21:51:42(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: analogmike Go to Quoted Post
Hello boys;

I've got this small mountain of M-track from three different time periods ready to hit the layout.
Of course the really crummy stuff goes in the tunnels.
Do I;
1. Sort them out and lay them in different locations for a more consistent look?
2. Don't sort them and mix em up like I always do?
3. Does anybody care?
4. Am I nuts for asking?

Mikey



Personally, hide the worst if possible but I agree you don't want troublesome track in difficult places.

I would definitely aim to keep the track as similar as possible and try to transition from one appearance grade to another so, sort them first by colour tone and condition. But that's just me.

The main thing is to ensure you use a straight edge when laying the track. In real life very rough uneven track only happens on low grade secondary lines or in third-world countries and I've never seen anyone model those intentionally! Inadvertantly yes but surely not by design. LOL LOL
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Offline analogmike  
#4 Posted : 12 August 2016 22:23:55(UTC)
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What I was actually referring to here was the actual vintage of the track. In the photo one has no third rail support visible. Another has the supports visible at each end with a small cut out on the bottom edge for sneaking a wire underneath. Yet another has the large half circle cut out for wiring.
I would never use bent or damaged sections in tunnels just the ones that are dirty and painted .

Mikey
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Offline xxup  
#5 Posted : 12 August 2016 22:50:29(UTC)
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I used the newest first and then colour matched sections of the remainder. If you look in the real world (at least in Australia) the track bed colour changes in different areas of the line.
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Offline analogmike  
#6 Posted : 12 August 2016 23:05:42(UTC)
analogmike

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Originally Posted by: waltklatt Go to Quoted Post
Well....LOL
It's a funny thing.
Crummy stuff in the tunnels, only if they are good pieces that wont cause derailments (hard to access)
You can mix up the variations of color for a realistic vintage look.
Real trains have different colored trackbeds, depending on the ballast colors and dumpings/deposits from the trains.
Oil/gunk/odd?? stains here and there are never consistent.
So it's all in the eye of the beholder....

I myself am unhappy with the small single step spacers that have one or two ties to fill a small gap in the usual tracks.
But, what can one do....

Just be glad you can run a train and enjoy it.

When younger, I used to love stepping on the toilet lever on the floor and watching the ties blur past in the old SBB, DB and OBB trains.

Walter


Something for the super detail freaks to think about.Flapper

I really must speak to the maid.Sneaky

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Offline cookee_nz  
#7 Posted : 13 August 2016 03:29:14(UTC)
cookee_nz

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Originally Posted by: analogmike Go to Quoted Post
What I was actually referring to here was the actual vintage of the track. In the photo one has no third rail support visible. Another has the supports visible at each end with a small cut out on the bottom edge for sneaking a wire underneath. Yet another has the large half circle cut out for wiring.
I would never use bent or damaged sections in tunnels just the ones that are dirty and painted .

Mikey


Ah, ok, well that's a slightly different question.

Out of interest, can you post a picture showing the underside of the same tracks?

The far section without the visible supports is the newer style.

Here's a chart of the various styles through the years. I believe there may be a couple more variations not shown but this is a reasonably accurate guide.

M-track through the years

Image from page 62 of the Mikado 50 Jahre Märklin H0 book

I guess it comes down to what you personally find most visually appealing. Me, well I'm pretty OCD (actually CDO, in order like they should be), some would say anal-retentive Blink ,.. I use matching pegs when I hang out the washing, I don't deal well with "shades of grey" or ambiguity, ie something is either on or off, right or wrong, left or right etc. Yep, causes me some real grief at times.

On the other hand, in my line of work (technology servicing) it can be a real bonus. Something is either functioning correctly, or it's not. No in-betweens. "Close enough" is usually not good enough. Sigh. Where was I?

Oh yes, so go with what you like and probably to some degree what you think visitors to your layout would like.

Marklin M-track through the years

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Offline dominator  
#8 Posted : 13 August 2016 03:39:02(UTC)
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Shit, at least when you are in the bush you can bury it. Dereck
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Offline analogmike  
#9 Posted : 13 August 2016 11:08:43(UTC)
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You know, I never thought for the longest time that it was true that train toits just "Let It Fly".

I'm sure that track maintenance crews must have been very cautious around passing trains.

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Offline SteamNut  
#10 Posted : 13 August 2016 13:43:12(UTC)
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Hey Mike there is no stupid question! But with all the "fertilizer" spread on the track it would explain why so many weeds and bushes grow along side of the tracks.
Offline analogmike  
#11 Posted : 13 August 2016 17:44:25(UTC)
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Or tomatoes.

Hey, I wonder if Faller makes these.

Do not eat.

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Offline utkan  
#12 Posted : 13 August 2016 18:30:47(UTC)
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Offline Markus Schild  
#13 Posted : 13 August 2016 22:34:08(UTC)
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Hi Utkan,

I think you need a herbizide train:
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VB Vollon&Brun 1950s


Regards

Markus
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Offline utkan  
#14 Posted : 13 August 2016 22:51:20(UTC)
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Hi Utkan,

I think you need a herbizide train:
UserPostedImage
VB Vollon&Brun 1950s


Regards

Markus


Hi Markus,

The moment I happen to find this set, I will get it...BigGrin
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Offline Tex  
#15 Posted : 16 August 2016 04:40:47(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: analogmike Go to Quoted Post
Hello boys;

I've got this small mountain of M-track from three different time periods ready to hit the layout.
Of course the really crummy stuff goes in the tunnels.
Do I;
1. Sort them out and lay them in different locations for a more consistent look?
2. Don't sort them and mix em up like I always do?
3. Does anybody care?
4. Am I nuts for asking?



Mikey

I am just completing my third layout using mostly recycled M track from a number of sources. In addition to the difference in styles many sections had plaster or paint on the sides. I did what I feel most others would do, throw out those that were damaged and used the rest without sorting them. Also, when the track had undergone the final change and was running well, I added ballast to the sides using a mix of brown and gray ballast to match the color ( or colors ) of the M track sections . They did not match too well but the end result was pretty good as the photograph below shows.

TEX BigGrin

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Offline analogmike  
#16 Posted : 17 August 2016 02:08:15(UTC)
analogmike

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Hello Tex;
Nice work, What did you use for the water?

Mikey
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