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Offline vnangli  
#1 Posted : 12 June 2016 17:42:40(UTC)
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I was at a local hobby store to find a good storage box for some of my passenger cars (43597). So that I can easily remove the cars from the box.

The store owner alerted me saying that the styrofoam that I am currently having may react with the plastic material of the cars and discolor it over a period of time.
Has any community member seen this as a problem??

With my Herpa planes I have seen the fuselage of the planes discolor when the planes were stored with the foam inserts (sponge) they came with.

Any creative suggestions to store the cars??

Vijay
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#2 Posted : 12 June 2016 18:01:17(UTC)
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Two threads that suggest it is not always safe:
https://www.marklin-user...f-your-trains#post244887
https://www.marklin-user...yrofoam-damages#post1087

The foam inlays used by HAG also can deteriorate, leading to problems.

Put the rolling stock on a layout or into showcases ...
Or make sure there is plastic foil or paper between coach and styrofoam. Next problem: are all plastic foils safe? Is every paper safe?
Plastic bags used to freeze food could be a good option - at least I hope they are.
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#3 Posted : 12 June 2016 18:13:15(UTC)
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You don't need any knowledge of the German language to understand this thread - just "enjoy" the pictures: OhMyGod
http://www.forum.hag-inf...Thread&threadID=2723
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#4 Posted : 12 June 2016 19:22:04(UTC)
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Apart from the passenger cars which come with styrofoam packaging, there are locos which come in plastic cradles where the ends hinge. This whole plastic cradle is then inserted into a rectangular plastic sleeve. Now are the locos also prone to damage by plastic?

Is there anything that I can use as protection?

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#5 Posted : 12 June 2016 19:23:41(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: H0 Go to Quoted Post
Two threads that suggest it is not always safe:
https://www.marklin-user...f-your-trains#post244887
https://www.marklin-user...yrofoam-damages#post1087

The foam inlays used by HAG also can deteriorate, leading to problems.

Put the rolling stock on a layout or into showcases ...
Or make sure there is plastic foil or paper between coach and styrofoam. Next problem: are all plastic foils safe? Is every paper safe?
Plastic bags used to freeze food could be a good option - at least I hope they are.


How about the locos? Is it safe to store them in the plastic cradle package they come in?
I am a little worried now.
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#6 Posted : 12 June 2016 19:29:02(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vnangli Go to Quoted Post
Is it safe to store them in the plastic cradle package they come in?
I hope it is. I don't remember pictures of locos damaged by deteriorating PET sleeves.

Felt pads or plastic foil should be inserted when mailing locos in such PET sleeves. For storage this should not matter IMHO.
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#7 Posted : 12 June 2016 19:39:38(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vnangli Go to Quoted Post
Is it safe to store them in the plastic cradle package they come in?
I hope it is. I don't remember pictures of locos damaged by deteriorating PET sleeves.

Felt pads or plastic foil should be inserted when mailing locos in such PET sleeves. For storage this should not matter IMHO.


Thank you for sharing your experience..
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#8 Posted : 12 June 2016 20:11:23(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vnangli Go to Quoted Post
Apart from the passenger cars which come with styrofoam packaging, there are locos which come in plastic cradles where the ends hinge. This whole plastic cradle is then inserted into a rectangular plastic sleeve. Now are the locos also prone to damage by plastic?


Be careful with the dreadful transparent inner packaging delivered for Marklin and Liliput/Bachmann locos and cars. I personally hate these things although other customers find them sturdy and practical. You should always use a protective inlay made of tissue or felt between the ends and roofs of the rolling stock and this plastic "cradle" because the rubbing motion between the packaging and the contents can shear off the painting. Marklin mostly inserts such little pads, but they are often very small and thin.

The really ideal packaging for model trains still remains to be invented... Unsure

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#9 Posted : 19 June 2016 18:59:53(UTC)
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any feedback on the "tiny" bubble bubble wrap? foam scares me as well as styrofoam...
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#10 Posted : 20 June 2016 00:14:06(UTC)
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I decided to order a bunch of micro fiber cloth...Cut them to sizes and match the packing...any thoughts??.
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#11 Posted : 20 June 2016 02:00:11(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: vnangli Go to Quoted Post
I decided to order a bunch of micro fiber cloth...Cut them to sizes and match the packing...any thoughts??.


Second try to reply, thanks to MSFT WIN 10.xxxx?

I had lost my internet connection, called msft, and hour later all is well and good, I hope?

I went about the same thinking, then completely over thought the problem.

First went to a craft store and bought white felt like material. At least I thought the material was felt.
Didn't want to take a chance of any stain coming out of the "colored" material.

Then not being satisfied, I went on to find a clear plastic like material, like "stretch type" without the stretch!!

Nothing like thinking? Anyway, I bought the material in a 30 inch roll of 30ft of so. Maybe more or less.

Then, still thinking, I found days/weeks later, a roll of this kind of stuff, but wait, it was food grade.
Nuttin like food grade stuff. So I bought a roll of that "stuff"!

Right now I have no clue where any of that "stuff" is located.

This kind of activity keeps me busy, and out of other type of trouble.Laugh

Best regards,
gene
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Offline thomas buckley  
#12 Posted : 21 June 2016 02:09:17(UTC)
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i get it, idle hands make play for the devil..., lol
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