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Offline Alsterstreek  
#1001 Posted : 29 December 2015 19:21:01(UTC)
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Grainy video of Maerklin US-themed layout:

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#1002 Posted : 31 December 2015 21:50:45(UTC)
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Various Maerklin US trains running on dogbone layout during a German club event in 2014:
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#1003 Posted : 03 January 2016 00:17:08(UTC)
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#1004 Posted : 03 January 2016 07:05:49(UTC)
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Nicely done video.
Regards
Kimball
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#1005 Posted : 03 January 2016 17:58:54(UTC)
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Nice, and realistic, including the wobbly trackwork!! Laugh

Jacques Vuye aka Dr.Eisenbahn
Once a vandal, learned to be better and had great success!
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#1006 Posted : 08 January 2016 23:48:40(UTC)
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US train parade.
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#1007 Posted : 09 January 2016 12:44:38(UTC)
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Maerklin Big Boys (et al.) of the USA.
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#1008 Posted : 10 January 2016 15:15:24(UTC)
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#1009 Posted : 10 January 2016 15:21:29(UTC)
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Big Boy Double-Header
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#1010 Posted : 15 January 2016 14:41:04(UTC)
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As a new item, Maerklin introduces an AT&SF Mikado steam loco (art. 37935).
2016-01-15_13-48-02.jpg

Technical specifications can be found here: http://www.steamlocomotive.com/mikado/?page=atsf
E.g.: " ...4060-4069 and 4086-4100--were oil burners..."

Prototype photo - besides the Maerklin model being coal-fired, the dome arrangement differs, and the tender has six axles instead of four:
santa-fe-4060.jpg
Source: http://railhistorian.com...rchive/santa-fe-gallery/

Here is a sister engine of the same class pictured. Narrative: "This oil burning 1924 Baldwin Mikado was a class 4060 with 63" drivers and 27"x32" cylinders. The engine weight was 342,000 lb and it could produce a tractive effort of 62,949 lb. The class was scrapped between 1950-54. No photographer was identified". Picture taken on 07/12/1939 in Clovis, NM.
2016-01-15_13-28-19.jpg
Source: http://rrpicturearchives...wPicture.aspx?id=3840032
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#1011 Posted : 15 January 2016 22:44:10(UTC)
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Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Mikado steam engine blueprint.
ATSF mikado blueprint.png
Source: http://www.kansasmemory.org
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Offline BrandonVA  
#1012 Posted : 16 January 2016 05:53:00(UTC)
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Ak has already unearthed excellent information regarding the ATSF Mikado. With US railroads in most cases steam went by the wayside in the late 40s or early 50s due to exhaustion from production efforts to serve the war effort; as a result 'Dieselization' was earlier here than some other places.

While the ATSF 4000 class Mikados were scraped by 1954 in the latest, we can still except some realistic overlap in the last days of steam with perhaps our Marklin ATSF PA-1 Alcos, MTH 3e+ F3s and Marklin F7 units. ATSF had a lot of F7s (215 A units and 247 B units), only Southern Pacific had more, and only New York Central got even close to either of these players. At any rate, the F7 was produced from 1949-1953, so there is a window. Also of note, there were 101 units in the ATSF 4000 class, certainly a large enough number one may be encountered doing some sort of last days work while passed by a gleaming Super Chief or otherwise.

In contrast, Union Pacific, for whom Marklin has produced a couple of Mikados (or perhaps more, I cant' recall at the moment), scrapped their Mikados starting in the same timeframe as ATSF, but giving a bit longer life, scrapping some as late as 1959. UP had retired most all of their steam equipment as of the early 60s, as had ATSF and many others.

And one yet unlinked photo of an ATSF 4000 class Mikado; ATSF 4075 at the Raton Pass Tunnels in Trinidad Colorado (hey, sounds likea good state to model, right?), July 26th 1948; photo credit Bruce Wilson. Note the semi-ghosted "SANTA FE" on the tender above the road number.

UserPostedImage

Link: http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=443480&nseq=0

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Offline Alsterstreek  
#1013 Posted : 16 January 2016 15:42:47(UTC)
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Thanks Brandon,
and that is an awesome picture, too.
:o)

Actually I did not mean to deter. The fact that I address the topic means that I am interested. For me, the model is close enough to the prototype. In fact, am tempted to buy a SF Mikado.
;o)
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#1014 Posted : 17 January 2016 00:13:34(UTC)
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Thanks Brandon,
and that is an awesome picture, too.
:o)

Actually I did not mean to deter. The fact that I address the topic means that I am interested. For me, the model is close enough to the prototype. In fact, am tempted to buy a SF Mikado.
;o)


Hi Ak
Yes, buy a Mikado, it is very well made model.
I have a 2 rail Trix version from 2004 in Pennsylvania lettering.
Having modelled US stuff for 30 years, i can say that Marklin make rolling stock that is lettered for the early 1960s. But as representative of US railroads, theh have a fine selection you can use with any motive power.

Kimball
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Offline BrandonVA  
#1015 Posted : 21 January 2016 22:04:19(UTC)
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Hi Ak
Yes, buy a Mikado, it is very well made model.
I have a 2 rail Trix version from 2004 in Pennsylvania lettering.
Having modelled US stuff for 30 years, i can say that Marklin make rolling stock that is lettered for the early 1960s. But as representative of US railroads, theh have a fine selection you can use with any motive power.

Kimball


Kimball,

I agree with your statement; and this generally seems to be the focus of most Marklin US motive power; with a few exceptions.

In the past few years Marklin issued this style car as a 40 ft car in a plastic set (I believe 45651, which was subject to zinkplist of the floors unfortunately) and also a 50 foot car in a tin plate set (45644):

UserPostedImage

In regard to the Mikado discussion, this photo is dated March, 1940, so we could put that right behind the locomotive and perhaps squint harder at the rest ;)

-Brandon
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#1016 Posted : 22 January 2016 01:18:46(UTC)
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......

In the past few years Marklin issued this style car as a 40 ft car in a plastic set (I believe 45651, which was subject to zinkplist of the floors unfortunately) and also a 50 foot car in a tin plate set (45644):

UserPostedImage

.... -Brandon


Hi Brandon,
Unfortunately, a couple of my friends purchased these new, unopened for 10 years, with the then discovery of zinkpest.
I do believe Marklin will replace them if returned to the dealer or the factory, but from Australia, the economics do not add up.

regards
Kimball
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#1017 Posted : 22 January 2016 03:45:58(UTC)
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On a somewhat related topic, I am considering ordering the new 39621 Great Northern F7's.
I do not own an F7. Curious if you more experienced owners have any initial thoughts
regarding this new release.
Thanks
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#1018 Posted : 22 January 2016 04:55:16(UTC)
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I have 13 F7 units,7 triple units and 6 double units.All the previous double units have only one motor,the 39621 will have two motors.I will buy this one too.If you buy the first then you will fall in love with them.LOL
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#1019 Posted : 22 January 2016 05:29:11(UTC)
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Ok I'm in thank you
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Offline Alsterstreek  
#1020 Posted : 22 January 2016 22:42:30(UTC)
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EMD F7: I am playing in Foumaro´s league. Even the double unit with only one motor is a smooth runner and great puller. So, as Foumaro stated, the new GN A-A lash-up gotta be "fail-proof".

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#1021 Posted : 22 January 2016 22:46:12(UTC)
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Santa Fe 40 ft cars: I was also victimized, but in due course compensated by Maerklin (albeit not in "Santa Fe currency"). I do have the 50 ft tin plate model which is - like my entire tin plate fleet - untroubled (see pic).
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#1022 Posted : 23 January 2016 00:12:33(UTC)
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Ok so if I order 39621 GN paired F7's and hopper car set 45661, what is my best option for a caboose?
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#1023 Posted : 23 January 2016 01:42:15(UTC)
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Ok so if I order 39621 GN paired F7's and hopper car set 45661, what is my best option for a caboose?
Thanks
Steve


I would check eBay for a Great Northern caboose - any brand, any colour so long as you can fit Marklin wheels, and have a suitable coupler capability.

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#1024 Posted : 23 January 2016 18:05:35(UTC)
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I will check. By the way which other manufacturers' rolling stock is compatible with Marklin 3 rail?
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Steve
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#1025 Posted : 23 January 2016 19:47:58(UTC)
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Well, that is a "wide" question. To keep it simple and limited to a caboose: Any brand. Main issue is the coupler. Since you plan to buy the GN hopper set - the hoppers being equipped with NEM coupler pockets - you could easily replace the European coupler of one hopper against a US type Kadee coupler (Kadee offers couplers fitting into NEM pockets). Like that a US made caboose can be coupled to the Maerklin train. Since the caboose would only be trailing, you might get away without exchanging the "two-rail" caboose wheels against Maerklin wheels, depends... Again, this advice is only valid under these limited circumstances. Note that the GN paint scheme varied over time. Quick research showed the one shown in attachment would match the era of the Maerklin GN model.
x-228b.jpg
Another approach would be to buy a cheap second hand Maerklin tin-plate caboose and repaint and adorn it with a GN goat logo downloaded from the internet. I did that once.
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#1026 Posted : 23 January 2016 20:10:30(UTC)
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BTW: Maerklin offered matching H0 scale 40 ft GN box cars 45642-02 in red and 45645-05 in green/turquoise in 2010 and 2014, respectively.
gn-bc xx0.png
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#1027 Posted : 23 January 2016 21:12:53(UTC)
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And a brown one in 24902 trix set.
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#1028 Posted : 24 January 2016 17:10:51(UTC)
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Thank you for your replies. Good ideas. On a related topic, any opinions on attributes of Great Northern 39621 vs
Soo Line 39620?

Thanks,
Steve
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#1029 Posted : 24 January 2016 18:24:24(UTC)
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The 39620 is a three unit locomotive,39621 is two unit locomotive.The 39620 is more expensive.Marklin sells the 39620 with a Soo Line caboose.
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#1030 Posted : 24 January 2016 18:29:18(UTC)
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The 39620 is a three unit locomotive,39620 is two unit locomotive.


Umm, yeah, which is it ???

A typo here I think.

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#1031 Posted : 24 January 2016 18:40:12(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
The 39620 is a three unit locomotive,39620 is two unit locomotive.


Umm, yeah, which is it ???

A typo here I think.



You are right,i fix my post.Blushing ThumpUp
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#1032 Posted : 24 January 2016 19:47:10(UTC)
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And two out of the three SOO units are motorized (thus one B-unit dummy), aren´t they?

My EMD F7 A-B-B-A consists all have two motorized and two dummy units. In that configuration, they pull in regular service trains with 25 US style tin plate freight cars (i.e. 100 axles) uphill on my layout.

Hence, the SOO units are good pullers, too.

But then, Maerklin offered only one SOO freight car, article no. 4774 open gondola.
soo gondola.png
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#1033 Posted : 24 January 2016 23:25:29(UTC)
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Thanks again for your replies. Sounds like both are good choices. But I have decided I am going to order the Great Northern set which I think is not expected until the 2nd quarter of
2016. I am waiting for delivery of a previously ordered Montreal Limited, 26495. This way I will spread out my new arrivals. Also I prefer the bright Great Northern color scheme.
I will shop around for a caboose to modify.
Take Care
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#1034 Posted : 25 January 2016 08:38:38(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: stevep Go to Quoted Post
Thanks again for your replies. Sounds like both are good choices. But I have decided I am going to order the Great Northern set which I think is not expected until the 2nd quarter of
2016. I am waiting for delivery of a previously ordered Montreal Limited, 26495. This way I will spread out my new arrivals. Also I prefer the bright Great Northern color scheme.
I will shop around for a caboose to modify.
Take Care
Steve


The Montreal Limited is a perfect train too.The double Alcos have the greatest pulling power of all Marklin HO locomotives.ThumpUp
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#1035 Posted : 25 January 2016 16:50:04(UTC)
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Nice! I am excited to receive this train.
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#1036 Posted : 27 January 2016 23:41:49(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
And a brown one in 24902 trix set.
Did not have this one on the radar:

s-l300.jpg

Märklin 45658-03 Livestock Car, Great Northern Railway
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#1037 Posted : 27 January 2016 23:53:36(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: foumaro Go to Quoted Post
And a brown one in 24902 trix set.
Did not have this one on the radar:

s-l300.jpg

Märklin 45658-03 Livestock Car, Great Northern Railway


It is nice how Marklin model the second floor on this car.
They were called double-deckers.
I guess they could load large beasts on the bottom floor, and smaller ones on the top.

Most models do not include the second floor.

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Offline Alsterstreek  
#1038 Posted : 29 January 2016 23:39:03(UTC)
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Extensíve collection of Mikado prototype photos:

https://sites.google.com...amlocomotives/built-1918
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#1039 Posted : 02 February 2016 07:03:21(UTC)
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My Montreal Limited arrived and i "unboxed" it tonight. Looks great!
And previous posts are correct the double Alcos are impressive for sure.
They really do run strong.

Unfortunately when putting the train together for the very first time
the socket for the current carrying connector on the last coach of the train
broke. What a bummer. Sure my dealer will resolve it but none
of the car lights work since this is the coach with the pick up shoe.

Oh well still runs strong sounds great.
I am now a USA diesel fan!

Steve
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#1040 Posted : 02 February 2016 08:09:42(UTC)
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The first Alco is enough,now you gonna get all of them.LOL ThumpUp
Propably the spare part you will need for the car is the E579120.You must be more careful with this kind of cars.Enjoy your perfect train.ThumpUp
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#1041 Posted : 02 February 2016 17:51:17(UTC)
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Yes that does look like the replacement part I need. I would need to remove
the coach body to make this repair, right? Do you know where I could find
instructions on how to do this? The coach at issue is the last car in the set
"Plattsburgh" #66.

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Offline Alsterstreek  
#1042 Posted : 02 February 2016 19:29:12(UTC)
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Ayayayayay, that is tricky with the streamliner observation car.

Since I could not find any instructions, I educated myself to dis- and re-assemble various streamliner cars (coach/sleeper/diner/dome/baggage), but not the observation car itself. For the coach/sleeper/diner/dome/baggage cars, one needs to:
1. remove both end walls (which can be pulled out with gentle force) - and mind the coupler;
2. pull the metal body gently apart to release the "bottom" with the trucks;
3. secure the minuscule springs above both brass plates covering the coupler mechanism (they tend to "jump" away);
4. gently lift relevant brass plate;
5. place E579120;
6. follow reverse order for re-assembly.
When re-assembling the cars, remember the correct position for the different end walls.

For the observation car, I reckon that at step 1 you have to pull out the plastic end wall on one side and remove the oval observation end on the other side by loosening a "underbelly" screw.

NB: All works done at own risk !
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#1043 Posted : 03 February 2016 02:46:27(UTC)
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Ok this was really helpful and I made some progress.
I have been able to begin to lift the coach body from the bottom
where the trucks are .
But am I worried about breaking
wires for the interior lighting. Maybe I could post a picture to show you?
How would I do that?
Thanks again
Steve
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#1044 Posted : 03 February 2016 08:52:52(UTC)
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I would like to help you but it is impossible by writing or sending a photo.If your dealer is near you i recomend to take the car to the dealer to fix it,i believe that he is more experienced than you is such situations.Just my opinion.
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#1045 Posted : 03 February 2016 09:42:10(UTC)
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As I stated, the observation car is tricky. I could test dis-assembly on my own one, but I do not have time for this for the next one or two weeks. Anyway, some way it is all plug and play and clip on and off tech - without soldering or breaking things. I recall that the lighting feeder cable is laterally plugged into the lighting beam under the roof. Thus, it could be - gently, gently - pulled out to allow further disassembly.

Again, any trials at own risk !
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#1046 Posted : 03 February 2016 17:24:04(UTC)
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Thanks again for your help and advice. I worked at it (patiently) last night
and I am able to get things opened up enough to accomplish the replacement.
Now I just have to wait for the part to arrive
Take care
Steve
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#1047 Posted : 06 February 2016 02:30:42(UTC)
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I fixed it! Thanks again for all of your help.
Steve
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#1048 Posted : 06 February 2016 04:55:51(UTC)
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Good news for you.Enjoy your perfect train.Your next double Alco is coming soon.ThumpUp Wink
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#1049 Posted : 06 February 2016 17:10:59(UTC)
Alsterstreek

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HO Union Pacific Big Boy class 4000 Märklin / Trix, mainlly in wonderland MiWuLa,..

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#1050 Posted : 08 February 2016 18:23:11(UTC)
Alsterstreek

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Maerklin Miikado.
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