Hi all,

Another couple of photo's of my 1935 layout track plan.

Ian.




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Hopefully the next photo shows the difference between the 1935 track and the 1936 to 1940 track.

The center rail on the 1935 track is 1mm thick and is 2mm thick on the 1936 to 1940 track.




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Hi Marco,

Yes, I agree, wonderful track.

Ian.

Hi all,

Another couple of photo's.

Ian.




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Hi Marco,

I have some "24 sleeper" solid center rail track as well.

Ian.

Hello Ian,
that is a very nice start - and I can help you with the missing parts and more.

@Marco: the quoted link is from our forum member CCS800KrokHunter3 .
The article about the tracks is a rough guide, "track collector" distinguish between quite more "differences" of these tracks.
If you can read German I can mail you a detailed guide on the 16-sleeper-tracks.
Regards
Wolf

Hi Wolf,

Thanks, your help will be much appreciated with getting my solid center rail layouts up and running.

My plans are for the following layout's.

1...1935 track.

2...1936 to 1940 track....I have enough of the 1936 track for a small oval.

3...1947 to 1955 track.

4...1955 to 2000? track..center stud track.

Those layout's will all be analog, and I'm also planning a 20m sq digital layout using K track..flex track.

Hopefully, I can fit all this into the Train Room.

Ian.

Hi all,

Here's my first idea for one of the layouts for my new train room.

The size would be 1800mm by 1150mm, all on the one level, access would be from the front of the layout only.

This is using 1935 and 1936 track only, there is two seperate circles, the inner one being the 1935 track.

You will notice I've used a couple of later track sections to complete the circles at the moment, they will be replaced with the correct track sections.

I can add another one straight to the length of each circle which takes the overall length to the 1800mm board size.

I still have enough track from the 1937 to 1940 type to build another small layout.

Ian.





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Thats nice track!

Hi FMS,

Thanks.

Ian.

Ian,
Last night I saw your 77 years old track layout, but I was to dead tired to write something, but I really enjoyed your pics. Much appreciated over here ! And I can't wait to see more of your building plans ..

I spent (too) many hours a week reading the 1930s - 1960s Marklin catalogues (that can all be found online).
Have you ever thought about the idea of rebuilding one of the uber lovely layouts that can be found in the 1930s catalogues?? They are not to big and I think you now have got enough track pieces for it.
May I share a 1936 catalogue illustration with you ??

Yes, I know all about it.....space. (I have got 8 rooms in my 1930s house but they are all very small).

It looks like it that the "00 Tischbahn anlage" on the picture, fits the space of 180 x 115 cm.
And a lot more original classic Marklin layouts that can be found on photos and illustrations, fits that space also. In that time people had not much space at home. (just like me).

I think a lot of your 1950- 2012 trains will do just fine on your pre-war 00 tracks.

Page 27 Marklin Catalogue 1935 ?
Page 12 Marklin Catalogue 1936 ?

Maybe there are other ways and sites, but I download Pdf files of 1925 - 2011 Marklin Catalogues here >

http://www.lctm.info/Bib...alogos/Marklin/index.php

Hi all,
I like the old Märklin layouts of the gauge 00 period very much.
Marco, the layout 700/210 - depicted in catalog 1936 (and your post 20) is the first one built by Märklin in gauge 00.
One could buy that one at that time for 340,00 RM (Reichsmark).
To my knowledge only one of this original layout still exist and was sold several years ago for more than 20 000,00€ !!!
I have re-built this layout with original items


and a second one with tracks 1935 - as well as railway stations 1935 - and small alterrations for a christmas scene.


Wolf

Hi Ian,
in order to clarify the signals of layout 700/210 - I add a picture


Ian, your layout proposal looks very nice.
But I prefer with a layout, that a train should be able to go everywhere.
Please consider this proposal


You have still one disadvantage - all trains run constantly in the same direction !!
What do you think about a return loop ?



Wolf

Hi Wolf,

Yes, I like those alterations to my track plan, but my list of track pieces I need is growing bigger.

Ian.

Hi Ian,
Very nice !
But there should be parallel to the bridge of the outer circle a bridge 1935 in the inner circle!

Wolf

Hello Ian,
please allow me a small amendment / correction to your statement "tracks 1935-1940".
I don't see any tracks from 1940 !!
In 1939 Märklin changed the colour of the tracks due to non-availability of "lac varnish" (German . Firnislack), the "new colour" was more grey - pictures

basic colour 1935-1939



colour 1939-1942


Wolf

Hello Ian,
yes , I can help, please send an email with a list what you need.
General explanation to the colour of the tracks:
The colour of the tracks were finally covered with varnish which turned the colour more to brown. When tracks were exposed to the light the colour became more dark.
When tracks were wrapped and kept in the"dark", they shine more bright (grey).

Wolf

Wolf that track was used from 1939 - 1943 and then again in 1945, right? All of my PX sets with SK 800 / RS 800 locos come with that track and they're from 1945. If the track is leftover (from the prewar) it looks like that. If it is new production, then it is a beige or pink color with no lithograph (the factory that did the lithography was destroyed in the war). Also some PX sets have a track from 1939 that had no light varnish but dark black rails. I think we need a complete track reference manual! Don't worry the official M-Users / Marklin Stop Wiki is in development now and will be released this weekend.

Ian, the progress is great. If Wolf's inventory runs dry (I doubt it... ), just let me know what you need. I have red bridges 467, lots of 1930s track & accessories, and especially 3600 AR track pieces which are a must if you build a 1935/1936 layout.

Best regards,

Paul

PS. Wolf, you're right he might need another red bridge that runs parallel on the other track....unless the river runs underground for a bit?

Hi Ian

Looks good . I do notice the size is beginning to grow from the original plan.

Mike

Hi Mike,

It did get a bit bigger.

The space I have is 4900mm by 1600mm with access all round.

So the 2100mm by 1600mm is for the 1930's track layout, and the remaining 2800mm by 1600mm for my 1950's solid center rail layout.

Will explain it better on the 21st July.

Ian.

Hi Paul,

Thanks for the photo's, never seen one before.

Ian.

Hi Marco,

Thanks for the link.

Ian.

Hi Marco,
all Märklin catalogs for the US market - covering the time 1935 to 1949 - were titled Gauge H0 whereas the catalogs for the British (and European) market
were titled Gauge 00.
British catalog 1938


catalog 1936 for US-market


Wolf

Hi Ian,
the buffer to the left with 3 sleepers is pre-war (1936-1939) and the other one with 5 sleepers is part of the tracks with 24 sleepers ( 1947 - 1955).

Wolf