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Joined: 15/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 443 Location: Bournemouth, Dorset
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Well, I already voted on the poll, but now it's crunch time!
I have just enough money for one new Marklin loco this month, on my radar are either a 39110 which is loco of the month and around Euro 180 ( I LOVE softdrive sinus and don't have an E10/E40 yet) or I could by a 30210 before they are finally sold out.
Decisions, decisions.........
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Joined: 21/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY
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Nice. Adding the votes on pro-choices #1, 3 and 4 - we end up with 48% positive for the blue boxes ...  |
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide  |
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 12,199 Location: New Zealand
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No one voted #2 though.......  
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Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 25,040 Location: United Kingdom
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I note there is more that one vote per member. |
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 12,199 Location: New Zealand
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Originally Posted by: steventrain  I note there is more that one vote per member. I made the poll multi choice, as I knew that people may have more than 1 reason for liking or disliking these items.
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Joined: 15/11/2009(UTC) Posts: 110 Location: Silver Spring, Maryland USA
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Hello, I think the old style boxes are a nice touch. But it's really the old style models that excite me. The 24 cm tin plate coaches are awesome ... just like the ones I bought as a kid. They are perfect on the anlog sections of my layout where everything is pretty much old style construction. I love the look and feel of the 30210 ... the little bycicle logo is so cool! When I opened the model up, I was really happy with what I found: an old school motor with an MFX decoder. Granted there are benifits to the new motor technologies. However, I wonder if 20 years from now I'll be scavanging the used motor market trying to find a replacement for one of my c-sine loks. One thing's for sure, I will always be able to service/rebuild the 30210 Bye, |
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Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 25,040 Location: United Kingdom
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz  Originally Posted by: steventrain  I note there is more that one vote per member. I made the poll multi choice, as I knew that people may have more than 1 reason for liking or disliking these items. OK, Thanks. |
Large Marklinist layout with C-tracks/Central station 2/Mobile station 2/Boosters 60174s/Marklin collector since 1990s/Collector Marklin from the 1950s/Favorites Steam class BR01/BR03/BR05/BR50/Insider Club membership. |
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 12,199 Location: New Zealand
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You're dead right there Rob, you have summed up exactly why I like the digitised old school DCM/LFCM/SFCM motors.
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Joined: 15/11/2009(UTC) Posts: 110 Location: Silver Spring, Maryland USA
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz  You're dead right there Rob, you have summed up exactly why I like the digitised old school DCM/LFCM/SFCM motors. I'm having this exact problem right now with my other hobby/addiction: RC model warhship combat. I standardized all of my size/weight constrained ships (Cruisers mostly) on these wonderful Maxon motors I found about eight years ago. The Maxons are small, don't weigh that much and have an incredibly low power draw under load. Which means I can use smaller/lighter batteries in the ship models (read: more weight/room for cannons, ball bearings & CO2). Anyway, after countless sinkings some of these Maxon motors are starting to have bearing problems ... no suprise there. Locating suitable replacements of the same size and power rating has turned out to be a lot more difficult that I anticipated. Heck, just interrepting Maxon part numbers and their meaning seems to be a science onto itself  |
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Joined: 21/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY
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I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide  |
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Joined: 21/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY
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I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide  |
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 12,199 Location: New Zealand
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Originally Posted by: rrf  Anyway, after countless sinkings some of these Maxon motors are starting to have bearing problems ... One of the engineers from Maxxon Australia is a member here, he helped out quite a bit when one of our members had trouble getting a replacement motor for a 37450 Br45. Nev might remember who he was. You could email/PM him for an answer to your problem.
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 12,199 Location: New Zealand
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Originally Posted by: john black  #2 is reserved for Super-Duper-Insiders-Who-Buy-It-All. Only  Yeah, but he ain't posting/voting much in the forum these days. Maybe I should vote that option on his behalf!
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Joined: 21/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY
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I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide  |
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Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,284 Location: Strathpine QLD
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz  Originally Posted by: rrf  Anyway, after countless sinkings some of these Maxon motors are starting to have bearing problems ... One of the engineers from Maxxon Australia is a member here, he helped out quite a bit when one of our members had trouble getting a replacement motor for a 37450 Br45. Nev might remember who he was. You could email/PM him for an answer to your problem. Jon Pippard was the Gent in Question and for more details: marklin-users.net forum » General topics » Digital » BR45 37450 Gone crazy |
wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now an waiting for a new shiny tin Hip Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory |
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Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,284 Location: Strathpine QLD
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz  Originally Posted by: rrf  Anyway, after countless sinkings some of these Maxon motors are starting to have bearing problems ... One of the engineers from Maxxon Australia is a member here, he helped out quite a bit when one of our members had trouble getting a replacement motor for a 37450 Br45. Nev might remember who he was. You could email/PM him for an answer to your problem. Member is Jon Pippard and his forum name is Audiopip. Very helpfull. Nev |
wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now an waiting for a new shiny tin Hip Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory |
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Joined: 09/11/2010(UTC) Posts: 202 Location: England Northamptonshire
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I would like to see Blue boxes on all Marklin Stuff, I use to like the line drawings but now there sticking on photos it makes the box look very dull!!
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Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 25,040 Location: United Kingdom
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I would like to see the BR01 '30480' in the 2012 new item to mark 60 years of BR01 model. |
Large Marklinist layout with C-tracks/Central station 2/Mobile station 2/Boosters 60174s/Marklin collector since 1990s/Collector Marklin from the 1950s/Favorites Steam class BR01/BR03/BR05/BR50/Insider Club membership. |
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 12,199 Location: New Zealand
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Yes Stephen, I'd like to see a 30480 also. Next year is as good as any. I'd like a 30470 or 30270 Br44 too!
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Joined: 13/02/2008(UTC) Posts: 600 Location: Kirseberg
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You can add 30430 to the list. It´s the top secret Swedish new item this year. RC 1016. An replica of the old 3043 but with MFX and hornsound. Boxed in a blue box. Can only be bought from: Lenis Lekor Tåg och Hobby |
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Joined: 08/01/2006(UTC) Posts: 2,208 Location: Shady Shores, TX - USA
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Picked up one of the blue first class coaches from the 00796 tinplate set. |
DT Now powered by ECoS II unit#2, RocRail
era - some time in the future when the space time continuum is disrupted and ICE 3 Trains run on the same rails as the Adler and BR18's. |
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Joined: 15/11/2009(UTC) Posts: 110 Location: Silver Spring, Maryland USA
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Originally Posted by: nevw  Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz  Originally Posted by: rrf  Anyway, after countless sinkings some of these Maxon motors are starting to have bearing problems ... One of the engineers from Maxxon Australia is a member here, he helped out quite a bit when one of our members had trouble getting a replacement motor for a 37450 Br45. Nev might remember who he was. You could email/PM him for an answer to your problem. Member is Jon Pippard and his forum name is Audiopip. Very helpfull. Nev Thanks BigDaddy and Nev, I saw the orignal thread and considered reaching out to Jon for help at that time. I've been meaning to ever since but never seem to get around to it. I guess I'll go transcribe the part nubmers and see if Jon can offer any insight as to what I should purchase from the current product line. Bye, |
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Joined: 22/09/2009(UTC) Posts: 1,304 Location: Edinburgh,
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As a runner of analogue, I would much prefer to buy the originals through dealers/ebay etc. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against a bit of retro style on the boxes. |
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Joined: 17/11/2010(UTC) Posts: 195 Location: Denver, Colo. USA
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The original boxes are my preference not only for aesthetic or sentimental reasons, but because those boxes with the plastic shells, tabs, and sleeves tend to discolor quickly to a sickly yellow and disintegrate, becoming utterly useless. Models in them must be padded with bubble wrap for protection in storage. Originally, the picture of the model housed inside was printed on the box making it much easier to put them away and to select them when they are packed together. Finally, form-fitted styrofoam inserts obviously cushion the locomotives from damage better than a generic box. The "retro" is actually an improvement. |
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Joined: 27/08/2005(UTC) Posts: 11,284 Location: Strathpine QLD
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Some very interseting Questions and choices to be made in this poll. They have to be looked at carefully. I notice that there are some more choices. NN |
wearing the Pink Pinny, which is hard to see and now an waiting for a new shiny tin Hip Junior member of the Banana Club, a reformist and an old Goat with a Bad memory |
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 12,199 Location: New Zealand
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Well, there is one option that hasn't been voted for yet.......
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Joined: 16/08/2007(UTC) Posts: 1,657 Location: Jakarta
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Been New Zealander for a while, now in SE Asia. Will take a while to fit the tracks back together and run my loks again. |
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Joined: 21/04/2004(UTC) Posts: 12,139 Location: New York, NY
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Just knew you'd do it, Dave ...   |
I hope no one visits a poor Southener's layout in Brooklyn. Intruders beware of Gators. AT&SF, D&RGW, T&P, SP, WP, UP, BN, NYC, ARR, epI-III - analog & digital Marklin Classics only. CU#6021 FX-MOTOROLA DIGITAL SYSTEM. Fast as lightning and no trouble. What else ... Outlaw Member of BIG JUHAN's OUTSIDER CLUB. With the most members, worldwide  |
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 12,199 Location: New Zealand
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And he's even voted....! 
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 12,199 Location: New Zealand
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz  And he's even voted....!  Twice Eight times.......!!  Edited by user 17 March 2011 05:45:24(UTC)
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 12,199 Location: New Zealand
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Here's a blue box item we seemed to have missed (although I have my doubts as to whether it is genuine, as there is no entry in the Marklin Product Database for it). Bigdaddynz attached the following image(s):
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Joined: 31/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 1,479 Location: Wellington
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz  Here's a blue box item we seemed to have missed (although I have my doubts as to whether it is genuine, as there is no entry in the Marklin Product Database for it).
Now I'm confused. That appears to be a scan from a Marklin catalogue or leaflet, how can it not be genuine? Where is the image from? Or have I missed something (in my most famous Zoolander impersonation voice) REALLY REALLY REALLY obvious here? Unless of course you're referring to an item ANNOUNCED by Marklin but never actually put into production or released for sale - it would not be the first time they did that. Cookee |
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 12,199 Location: New Zealand
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Steve, it looks genuine, in the traditional Marklin style, but when it has a 1 gauge F7 in the Australian Ghan livery, you do wonder.
It was a pdf I found on Rapidshare (not one of mine). It is 3.5mb, so I will send you a copy via email.
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Joined: 31/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 1,479 Location: Wellington
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz  Steve, it looks genuine, in the traditional Marklin style, but when it has a 1 gauge F7 in the Australian Ghan livery, you do wonder.
It was a pdf I found on Rapidshare (not one of mine). It is 3.5mb, so I will send you a copy via email. Right, with you now. I did find this.... http://alte-modellbahnen...Warship-seit-wann-1.htmlSure looks like an April fool joke. Rather clever though all the same, had the Germans buzzing!!!! Fooled me (but not for long) |
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 12,199 Location: New Zealand
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 12,199 Location: New Zealand
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Originally Posted by: steventrain  I would like to see the BR01 '30480' in the 2012 new item to mark 60 years of BR01 model. Stephen your wish has been granted!  BTW, as of today, we seem to have 8 people named 'Lutz' as members in this forum! 
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Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 25,040 Location: United Kingdom
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz  Originally Posted by: steventrain  I would like to see the BR01 '30480' in the 2012 new item to mark 60 years of BR01 model. Stephen your wish has been granted!  BTW, as of today, we seem to have 8 people named 'Lutz' as members in this forum!  It is 30080 BR01 |
Large Marklinist layout with C-tracks/Central station 2/Mobile station 2/Boosters 60174s/Marklin collector since 1990s/Collector Marklin from the 1950s/Favorites Steam class BR01/BR03/BR05/BR50/Insider Club membership. |
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Joined: 15/03/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,055 Location: Auckland NZ
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I only have the Insider Ford Van kit in a blue box and the 2009 Mueseum Wagon, of which I bought the Ford model off Trade me  , cause I was an Outsider at the time,  for nostalgic reasons, as I had one when I was a young Marklinist, and the Museum Wagon to add to my Leig-Einheit Train, but I'll admit did like the packaging too. As for the Loks I prefer the more modern realism and technology  |
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" Every Marklin layout needs a V200, a Railbus and a Banana car", not to mention a few Black and red Steamers, oh and the odd Elok !
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 12,199 Location: New Zealand
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Originally Posted by: steventrain  It is 30080 BR01 Yes, that is correct, but it is advertised as a replica of 3008 and 3048! So, near enough for me! Yes, I also got a set of the Leig Einheit Museum wagons, for the same reasons as Glen. I see that Marklin have issued a new set of Leig Einheit cars in this year's new items. The number of 'Lutz's' is now up to 10! 
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Joined: 15/03/2011(UTC) Posts: 1,055 Location: Auckland NZ
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Originally Posted by: Bigdaddynz 
I see that Marklin have issued a new set of Leig Einheit cars in this year's new items.
I did see them but they are supposedly eraIV so I passed on those, Lokshop sold out of them very quickly  Edited by user 11 June 2012 02:50:44(UTC)
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Glen Auckland NZ
" Every Marklin layout needs a V200, a Railbus and a Banana car", not to mention a few Black and red Steamers, oh and the odd Elok !
CS1 Reloaded, Touch Cab, C Track Modules, K track layout all under construction. Currently Insider |
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Joined: 09/11/2010(UTC) Posts: 202 Location: England Northamptonshire
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Originally Posted by: Webmaster  John, seen through my old man's eyes - one reason for youngsters not to think the M products are "cool" is actually the boring packaging of today... If the boxes had been as imaginative as in the 60's, you get some kind of expetcation by just looking at the box.
That feeling is certainly missing with the modern boxes of today, you see a white or grey box with some kind of sterile drawing or you see the wagon model itself through a plastic window...
The box design means more for mental advertising than you think... Good point, I would have liked a nice box cover for my Thalys set. At £375 the most expensive Marklin set i have ever bought, I would liked to a seen some nice re-pro graphics of a Thalys set on the front of the box, without seeing the set through any plastic glass! I guess it would cost more to produce etc. But after Marklin did away with the scale drawings of locomotives and replaced them with photos i was a little disappointed. I would have preferred this on the Thalys box even. I would like to see what the Tintin set will look like, im told it will have graphics on the box. dan67millie attached the following image(s):
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Joined: 17/09/2006(UTC) Posts: 12,199 Location: New Zealand
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Originally Posted by: NZMarklinist  Lokshop sold out of them very quickly... http://www.ebay.com/itm/...&hash=item3f16db84dfYes, I certainly agree with Juhan's comments about the boxes. One of the reasons why I like these blue box items is the cool graphics/paintings on the boxes.
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Joined: 21/10/2004(UTC) Posts: 25,040 Location: United Kingdom
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37628 F7 from 2012 new items is not in reproduction blue box. |
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