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utkan Offline
#1 Posted : 17 July 2009 20:29:47
Joined: 13/07/2009
Posts: 962
Location: Istanbul,
Hello all,

Two days ago I sent you some dinosaurs,now I will go on with streams,elecrics and diesels.Hope you like them.Smile

ps.the layout isn't finished yet[:I]
with my kind regards,

mehmet utkan






The world is analog!
steventrain Offline
#2 Posted : 17 July 2009 21:00:11

Joined: 21/10/2004
Posts: 15,987
Location: Northern Ireland, United Kingdom.
Excellent.

Huge collection.
Large Marklinist Layout/60212 Central Station 2.04/60213 CS2 1.3.0 (1)/6021 Control unit/M, K, C-Tracks/Favourites class BR01, BR03, BR50, BR43, E103, E18/Insider club membership since 2004. Website http://steventrain.fpic.co.uk/
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#3 Posted : 17 July 2009 21:07:10

Joined: 30/01/2006
Posts: 1,305
Location: Spofford, NH
Very nice...beautiful layout!
Märklin C-track, Digital, 6021/ESU Mobile/ECoS, multi-era
http://www.ete-ene.org/MMLayout.htm
utkan Offline
#4 Posted : 17 July 2009 21:09:19
Joined: 13/07/2009
Posts: 962
Location: Istanbul,
Hi Stephen,

Thank you[:I]

By the way you have a large collection as well. I had a very long look at your site.It is very well organized.I really congratulate youSmile

To tell the truth ,at your age I had not been able to do much.I am 51wink

Regards,

mehmet utkan

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utkan Offline
#5 Posted : 17 July 2009 21:14:20
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Location: Istanbul,
Hi Mark,

Thank you for the compliments.

By the way , has the fireman been able to save the cat?Smilewink?

regards,

mehmet utkan
The world is analog!
dntower85 Offline
#6 Posted : 17 July 2009 21:17:51

Joined: 08/01/2006
Posts: 1,406
Location: Shady Shores, TX - USA
I can still see some M track showing through, I think you need some more biggrin
DT
era - some time in the future when the space time continuum is disrupted and ICE 3 Trains run on the same rails as the Adler and BR18's.
utkan Offline
#7 Posted : 17 July 2009 21:25:46
Joined: 13/07/2009
Posts: 962
Location: Istanbul,
Hi!

You are certainly right about the naked tracks[:I]

But if I go on buying,I am afraid I might have to find a new wifewink

regards,
mehmet utkan

ps. I think the passenger and freight cars will do the businessbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin
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FMS Offline
#8 Posted : 18 July 2009 00:55:58

Joined: 01/01/2009
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Location: PORTUGAL
Congrats Utkan, very nice layout!
Regards
FMS
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#9 Posted : 18 July 2009 12:00:03
Joined: 13/07/2009
Posts: 962
Location: Istanbul,
Dear FMS,

Thanks for the compliment!Smile

regards,

mehmet utkan
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hxmiesa Offline
#10 Posted : 18 July 2009 17:06:54

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Location: Spain
mehmet utkan; I like your humor! ;-)
Best regards
Henrik Hoexbroe ("The Dane In Spain")
http://hoexbroe.tripod.com
utkan Offline
#11 Posted : 18 July 2009 17:27:18
Joined: 13/07/2009
Posts: 962
Location: Istanbul,
Hi Henrik Hoexbroe,

And I like your motto' Yes I think a lay out must never be finished. It has always got to be under constuction.This makes a lay out ALIVE, like uswink

Greetings to Spain...
regards,

mehmet

ps.you have a great UNDER CONSTRUCTIONwinkLAY OUT!
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utkan Offline
#12 Posted : 20 July 2009 14:44:02
Joined: 13/07/2009
Posts: 962
Location: Istanbul,
Hello again all train lovers,

Today I am sending three favourite locos of mine with a favourite picture of mine.


In the front DB 050082-7, in the middle DR 96 071 and in the back DA 800 23 014.

Hope you like it.

Have a nice week to all!Smile

mehmet utkan

The world is analog!
utkan Offline
#13 Posted : 13 August 2009 14:55:13
Joined: 13/07/2009
Posts: 962
Location: Istanbul,
Hello all,

Here comes the family of 236 ,V 36 and their cousinswink

Hope you like themSmile






From left Amiens SNCF Y 50 101 /ÖBB 206.501 / V 36 805 TGOJ / 453 CFL / CCB 215 /DB 236 double / V 6 M 536 Railbouw Leerdam /V 36 Ropyal Corps of T / V 36 123 /D 236 002 FS / DB 236 102-0






























Till next time!
ByeCool
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intruder Offline
#14 Posted : 13 August 2009 21:32:06

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Posts: 4,329
Location: Norway
I am impressed, Mehmet!
Best regards Svein
member of MFDWPL
Märklin Model Railway, the perfect recovery
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obxbill Offline
#15 Posted : 13 August 2009 23:36:41

Joined: 20/12/2008
Posts: 985
Location: manteo, nc
Wow! That's quite a family. Nice!
Marklin HO and Z also Hornby 00 and US 2-rail
pab Offline
#16 Posted : 14 August 2009 09:04:29

Joined: 03/11/2007
Posts: 1,163
Location: Naaldwijk,
Nice diesels
rcorreia Offline
#17 Posted : 14 August 2009 10:31:05

Joined: 05/01/2009
Posts: 240
Location: Lisboa, Portugal
What a family!! biggrin
Ricardo Correia
Lisboa, Portugal
No Smoking unless you're a Steam Locomotive
utkan Offline
#18 Posted : 14 August 2009 11:48:32
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Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by intruder
<br />I am impressed, Mehmet!


Thank you,Intruderwink

regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
utkan Offline
#19 Posted : 14 August 2009 11:57:04
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Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by obxbill
<br />Wow! That's quite a family. Nice!


Thank you Oxbillbiggrin

regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
utkan Offline
#20 Posted : 14 August 2009 12:03:01
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Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by pab
<br />Nice diesels


Dear Piet Prijis,

Thank you very much for your comment.[:I]

with my kind regards,

mehmet utkan

ps. If you accept my congratulations for your lay out, I will be very happy!Smile

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utkan Offline
#21 Posted : 14 August 2009 12:07:06
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Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by rcorreia
<br />What a family!! biggrin


Hi Ricardo,

Nice to hear from you!biggrin

Thank you for your commentbiggrin

By the way,I have been told that you have been visiting the beautiful beaches or Portugal recently for some sandwinkwink
regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
steventrain Offline
#22 Posted : 15 August 2009 20:30:44

Joined: 21/10/2004
Posts: 15,987
Location: Northern Ireland, United Kingdom.
Hi Utkan,

How many boosters are you use on layout?
Large Marklinist Layout/60212 Central Station 2.04/60213 CS2 1.3.0 (1)/6021 Control unit/M, K, C-Tracks/Favourites class BR01, BR03, BR50, BR43, E103, E18/Insider club membership since 2004. Website http://steventrain.fpic.co.uk/
utkan Offline
#23 Posted : 15 August 2009 22:22:39
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Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain
<br />Hi Utkan,

How many boosters are you use on layout?

Hi Steven,
To tell the truthSmile I use no boosters at allwink

The whole system is analog. You see I am a bit conservative[:I]

But I have eight trafos (6631).

Soon I am going to give some specifications about my lay out.

For the time being I am still working on my archive. But if you have something urgent on your mind, please feel free to askSmile

With my kind regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
usta Offline
#24 Posted : 16 August 2009 10:59:25
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Hi Utkan,

I love your diesel fleet.

regards
A.Usta
Oscar Offline
#25 Posted : 17 August 2009 14:02:15
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by utkan
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<font face="Verdana]Incredible! What a collection! And that lay-out... Wow!</font id="Verdana]
utkan Offline
#26 Posted : 17 August 2009 14:28:45
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Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Oscar
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by utkan
<br />

<font face="Verdana]Incredible! What a collection! And that lay-out... Wow!</font id="Verdana]


Glad to hear your compliments[:I]

Thanks, Oscar.

regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
utkan Offline
#27 Posted : 17 August 2009 14:35:16
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Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by usta
<br />Hi Utkan,

I love your diesel fleet.

regards
A.Usta


Hi Usta,

I am glad you like thembiggrin

regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
utkan Offline
#28 Posted : 18 August 2009 08:53:06
Joined: 13/07/2009
Posts: 962
Location: Istanbul,
Hi everyone,

Today comes the family of DB 104 and her niecesSmile
These lovely engines forced me to start collecting Electric Locos more widely.....

From left; DR E 04 17, DR E 04 01 , DR 204 001-2, DB 104 021-1





DR E 04 01


with Pop Train Cars


DB 104 021-1

DR 04 17



DR 204 001-2


Till next timeCool
regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
rcorreia Offline
#29 Posted : 18 August 2009 12:25:47

Joined: 05/01/2009
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Location: Lisboa, Portugal
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by utkan
<br />Hi Ricardo,

(...)By the way,I have been told that you have been visiting the beautiful beaches or Portugal recently for some sandwinkwink
regards,

mehmet


as a matter of fact, I'm searching for the ideal sand for the work... and at the same time I keep placing tracks in the new layout, deciding some slight modifications and getting the layout ready for that work ;)
Ricardo Correia
Lisboa, Portugal
No Smoking unless you're a Steam Locomotive
utkan Offline
#30 Posted : 18 August 2009 14:37:57
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Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by rcorreia
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by utkan
<br />Hi Ricardo,

(...)By the way,I have been told that you have been visiting the beautiful beaches or Portugal recently for some sandwinkwink
regards,

mehmet


as a matter of fact, I'm searching for the ideal sand for the work... and at the same time I keep placing tracks in the new layout, deciding some slight modifications and getting the layout ready for that work ;)



Dear Ricardo,

I have no doubt that you will find the right sand. Even wallswink cannot stop you..biggrin

regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
steventrain Offline
#31 Posted : 18 August 2009 15:59:22

Joined: 21/10/2004
Posts: 15,987
Location: Northern Ireland, United Kingdom.
Very nice electric locos.
Large Marklinist Layout/60212 Central Station 2.04/60213 CS2 1.3.0 (1)/6021 Control unit/M, K, C-Tracks/Favourites class BR01, BR03, BR50, BR43, E103, E18/Insider club membership since 2004. Website http://steventrain.fpic.co.uk/
utkan Offline
#32 Posted : 18 August 2009 16:08:20
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Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain
<br />Very nice electric locos.


Glad you like them,Steven Smile

regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
utkan Offline
#33 Posted : 19 August 2009 11:07:42
Joined: 13/07/2009
Posts: 962
Location: Istanbul,
Hi all,

Our parade is going on with some old electric onesSmile

DB 132, DR E32 and their distant Swedish cousinCool
From left, DB 132 103-3, DR E32 18 , D 109 SJ


From left, DR E32 18, D 109 SJ, DB 132 103-3


DB 132 103-3

DR E32 18


SJ(STATENS JARNVAGAR) 109 D 1925


Till next time....

regards,
mehmetCool
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RBior Offline
#34 Posted : 19 August 2009 15:04:39
Joined: 11/02/2009
Posts: 13
Location: Lisboa,
I Have the E32 18 and it's gorgeous.
utkan Offline
#35 Posted : 19 August 2009 15:33:48
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Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RBior
<br />I Have the E32 18 and it's gorgeous.


I do agree with you. Cool
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rcorreia Offline
#36 Posted : 19 August 2009 16:58:58

Joined: 05/01/2009
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Location: Lisboa, Portugal
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by utkan
<br />Dear Ricardo,

I have no doubt that you will find the right sand. Even wallswink cannot stop you..biggrin

regards,

mehmet


I'm sure I will... but all the sand I just found has too small grain, and I don't like it for the work, since it's almost dust...

and of course the walls couldn't stop me... I raised them, I can also tear them down... biggrin


Ricardo Correia
Lisboa, Portugal
No Smoking unless you're a Steam Locomotive
utkan Offline
#37 Posted : 19 August 2009 17:38:33
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Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by rcorreia
<br />
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by utkan
<br />Dear Ricardo,

I have no doubt that you will find the right sand. Even wallswink cannot stop you..biggrin

regards,

mehmet


I'm sure I will... but all the sand I just found has too small grain, and I don't like it for the work, since it's almost dust...

and of course the walls couldn't stop me... I raised them, I can also tear them down... biggrin





Dear Ricardo,

If you try the beaches with rocks,you will find the right size of grain-I mean sand. But if you still find it difficult,just get a ticket to IstanbulwinkCool
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utkan Offline
#38 Posted : 20 August 2009 14:06:54
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Location: Istanbul,
Since today no workCool wanted to send some moreSmile

Swiss locos have always attracted many of us,haven't they?

From left Ae 6/6 11425 GENEVE, Ae 6/6 11437 STADT BASEL, Re 4/4 11162, Re 4/4 11294....





Ae/6 11425





Ae 6/6 11437





Re 4/4 11162



Re 4/4 11294



And their grandfatherCool
Ae 6/6 11414 from BERN



And a family REUNIONSmile


That is all for this time....
Thanks to SBB CFF FFSSmile and to Maerklinwink

Bye ladswink

regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
TomB Offline
#39 Posted : 20 August 2009 14:40:22

Joined: 08/02/2007
Posts: 322
Location: Asker, Norway
Hallo Mehmed.

You have a excellent collection of swiss locos, as well ...
Thank you, nice pictures !!
Tom Blikstad

HO, german/swiss trains, Märklin K+C, ECoS I+II,
Viessmann, Kühn, MBTronik, WinDigipet 2009 PE, WinTrack 9
utkan Offline
#40 Posted : 20 August 2009 14:51:14
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Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by TomB
<br />Hallo Mehmed.

You have a excellent collection of swiss locos, as well ...
Thank you, nice pictures !!


Hi Tom, I just read your long list as well.It is a great collection you have tooSmile
'My fortune: 74
with mfx-decoder: 41
with full sound (soundgenerator): 23' These were your words...wink

I am glad you like the picturesSmile

regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
utkan Offline
#41 Posted : 21 August 2009 15:34:02
Joined: 13/07/2009
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Location: Istanbul,

Hi all,
Just before the weekend an Italian beauty from 1960's....Cool

E 424 103






Have a nice week to allCool

regards,
mehmet
The world is analog!
utkan Offline
#42 Posted : 22 August 2009 20:06:15
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Location: Istanbul,
Hi all,

A steam family is on a weekend tourwink
from left, DB 78, SNCF 232 TC,K.W.St.E T18, KPEV T 18







DB 78 355

SNCF 232 T C 414

T 18 8401 KPEV

T 18 1127 Wurttemberg K.W.St.E.


That is all for the time beingCool

regards,

mehmet
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utkan Offline
#43 Posted : 23 August 2009 19:55:21
Joined: 13/07/2009
Posts: 962
Location: Istanbul,

Just before the week is over, here comes two 1200 NS electrics from the NetherlandsCool
NS 1223 from 1970












NS 1213 from 1984


Till next timeCool

regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
utkan Offline
#44 Posted : 26 August 2009 16:03:47
Joined: 13/07/2009
Posts: 962
Location: Istanbul,
Hi all,

Today a friend of mine installed some signals and turn outs to my lay out. They are all analog,but controlled by a computerSmile

Half analog half digital; a hybridwink

Soon I wiil take a videoSmile











regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
utkan Offline
#45 Posted : 28 August 2009 17:59:04
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Location: Istanbul,

Hi all,

As I promised the video comes. The quality is not very good[:(]but it gives an idea....

The signals are controlled on a computer screen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSyTjvL5ICM

Hope you like it.....Cool

Have a nice weekend,

regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
obxbill Offline
#46 Posted : 28 August 2009 19:56:55

Joined: 20/12/2008
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Location: manteo, nc
Well, I enjoyed the video very much! I added it to my favorites list. Thanks much for posting it!biggrin

Bill
Marklin HO and Z also Hornby 00 and US 2-rail
utkan Offline
#47 Posted : 29 August 2009 09:49:12
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Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by obxbill
<br />Well, I enjoyed the video very much! I added it to my favorites list. Thanks much for posting it!biggrin

Bill


Hi Bill,

I am glad you like itSmile

regards,

Mehmet
The world is analog!
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#48 Posted : 29 August 2009 14:40:32

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Location: Spofford, NH
Great video. Your layout is amazing!!!
Märklin C-track, Digital, 6021/ESU Mobile/ECoS, multi-era
http://www.ete-ene.org/MMLayout.htm
utkan Offline
#49 Posted : 29 August 2009 15:12:14
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mmervine
<br />Great video. Your layout is amazing!!!


Hi Mervine,

Thanks for your nice compliments on the video and the layout,which made me very happySmile

I must confess that the quality of the video is not good.But what I tried is to make the signals from 1970's work on M-Tracks.As you can notice the movements of the trains are not realistic.
But the longer the video makes the more difficult to broadcast it[:(]
And the video comes from an IXUS 50 Canon,just a camera,not a cam. recorder at all!

regards,
mehmet
The world is analog!
mmervine Offline
#50 Posted : 29 August 2009 15:34:03

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Your layout is great and I thought the movement of the trains was just fine. I really like what you have done with your m-track and signals. Your layout and collection represent an important era of Marklin trains. Very, very nice!!!biggrinbiggrinbiggrin
Märklin C-track, Digital, 6021/ESU Mobile/ECoS, multi-era
http://www.ete-ene.org/MMLayout.htm
utkan Offline
#51 Posted : 29 August 2009 15:48:13
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mmervine
<br />Your layout is great and I thought the movement of the trains was just fine. I really like what you have done with your m-track and signals. Your layout and collection represent an important era of Marklin trains. Very, very nice!!!biggrinbiggrinbiggrin


Thanks Mervine,

I really appreciate your commentsbiggrin

regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
RayPayas Online
#52 Posted : 29 August 2009 16:23:20

Joined: 14/03/2005
Posts: 5,120
Location: Gibraltar, Europe
Mehmet,

Your layout is great, and your collection of locos is fantastic!

Keep posting, I love this thread!
Ray from the Rock.
Mostly Marklin Era III & IV
Still using my trusty 6021
utkan Offline
#53 Posted : 29 August 2009 16:45:59
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by RayPayas
<br />Mehmet,

Your layout is great, and your collection of locos is fantastic!

Keep posting, I love this thread!


Thank you for your encouraging words,Raybiggrin

Promise to do my best for the futureCool

regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
utkan Offline
#54 Posted : 30 August 2009 13:28:40
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Location: Istanbul,
Hi all,

Just the weekend bites the dustCool,here come DB 111's.....

From left DB 111 043-6 / DB 111 049-3 / DB 111 068-3 / DB 111 105-3 / DB 111 136-8 / DB 111 069-1 / DB 111 068-3



DB 111 043-6

DB 111 049-3

DB 111 068-3

DB 111 105-3

DB 111 136-8

DB 111 069-1

Till next time....
regards,
mehmet utkan
The world is analog!
utkan Offline
#55 Posted : 31 August 2009 12:17:41
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Location: Istanbul,


Unfortunately I do not have many of them[:(]Family 41....

From left E 41024 DB 141 015-8 and E 41024



E 41024 from 1960


DB 141 015-8 from 1976

E 41024 from 1960

regards,
mehmet

The world is analog!
hxmiesa Offline
#56 Posted : 31 August 2009 14:13:44

Joined: 15/12/2005
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Location: Spain
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by utkan
Today a friend of mine installed some signals and turn outs to my lay out. They are all analog,but controlled by a computerSmile
Half analog half digital; a hybridwink

There is nothing wrong with that combination/solution. Actually I find it perfect for me also ;-)

Nice layout! These -a little darker photos- gives a very nice impression of the atmosphere there.
Best regards
Henrik Hoexbroe ("The Dane In Spain")
http://hoexbroe.tripod.com
utkan Offline
#57 Posted : 31 August 2009 17:18:26
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Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by hxmiesa
<br />
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by utkan
Today a friend of mine installed some signals and turn outs to my lay out. They are all analog,but controlled by a computerSmile
Half analog half digital; a hybridwink

There is nothing wrong with that combination/solution. Actually I find it perfect for me also ;-)

Nice layout! These -a little darker photos- gives a very nice impression of the atmosphere there.


You have got a great and huge layout as wellSmileI had a great time at the marklin cafewinkWatching those long lines were really amazing....biggrin

Thanks for the responseSmile
regards,
mehmet
The world is analog!
steventrain Offline
#58 Posted : 31 August 2009 21:05:47

Joined: 21/10/2004
Posts: 15,987
Location: Northern Ireland, United Kingdom.
Nice collection of Electric locos.
Large Marklinist Layout/60212 Central Station 2.04/60213 CS2 1.3.0 (1)/6021 Control unit/M, K, C-Tracks/Favourites class BR01, BR03, BR50, BR43, E103, E18/Insider club membership since 2004. Website http://steventrain.fpic.co.uk/
utkan Offline
#59 Posted : 31 August 2009 21:28:23
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Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain
<br />Nice collection of Electric locos.

Hi Steven,

Glad you like themSmile
regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
utkan Offline
#60 Posted : 01 September 2009 08:05:55
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Posts: 962
Location: Istanbul,

Hi all,

They must be distant cousinswink

From left DB E10 1265, DB 114 495-5 , 110 234-2



DB E10 1265 The loc of Rheingold Set from 1996



DB 114 495-5 from 1994




DB 110 234-2 from 1971



That's all for this timeSmile

regards,
mehmet
The world is analog!
utkan Offline
#61 Posted : 04 September 2009 12:59:21
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Hi all,

Let's meet my most crowded steam family,shall we?Smile

ETAT 231-981 from France....1977

DB 18 478 From Germany....1972


S 3/6 3673 K.BAY.STS.B Form Bayern......1974

5920 From Belgium.........1982

231-995 SNCF From France........1991

18 434 DRG Former East Germany.........1988 The Loc of famous Rheingold cars..

S 3/6 3709 From Bayern.....1997

S 3/6 3602 K.BAY.STS.B. From Bayern....1998

They are on the shelves but still deeply desiredbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin

My favurite ones....

Wth a last farewell shotSmile


Hope you like themSmile

regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
river6109 Offline
#62 Posted : 04 September 2009 15:16:04

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nice collection.
I have 2 of them, 1 SNCF (3317) 1 SNCB (3111) both digital and with sound.

regards.,
John
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Goofy Offline
#63 Posted : 04 September 2009 15:33:15
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Location: Helsingborg, Sweden
Very impressive collection...!
So all locomotivs are euqipped with digitaldecoder and there is some sound too...?
Must been terrible noising at layout with metaltracks too...!!!

An question:
Why are you writing,that world is analog...?

biggrin
Sincerelly
Goofy

"To do or not to do...that´s the answer!" (Goofys proverb)
utkan Offline
#64 Posted : 04 September 2009 15:41:23
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by river6109
<br />nice collection.
I have 2 of them, 1 SNCF (3317) 1 SNCB (3111) both digital and with sound.

regards.,
John


Hi John,

Glad to hear from youSmileThank you for the compliment[:I]

regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
utkan Offline
#65 Posted : 04 September 2009 15:59:13
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Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy
<br />Very impressive collection...!
So all locomotivs are euqipped with digitaldecoder and there is some sound too...?
Must been terrible noising at layout with metaltracks too...!!!

An question:
Why are you writing,that world is analog...?

biggrin


Hi Goofy,

Firstly thank you so much for your compliments which made me very happySmile

Secondly I must admit that the locos have no digital decoders[:(] They are all analog(hope you not mind my spellingwink)
You see I prefer the practical and the short form, like you have done with your locos by choosing analoguewink
But the motto I am using has got nothing to do with the trains at all. I really do not mean anything at all.
For one thing I have had many equipments such as videos,cell phones and cameras in digital.They did not live very long.Perhaps this is why I am writing it. I do respect all the forms including digital.I have to simply confess one thing :Digital is not my cup of tea.Hope I have been able to make your question clear.Smile

Thirdly, you are 100% right about the sound of metaltracksbiggrin I love to hear this melody...Smile

regards,
mehmet
The world is analog!
Goofy Offline
#66 Posted : 04 September 2009 16:04:39
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Location: Helsingborg, Sweden
What kind of decoders do you have in locomotivs...?

Sincerelly
Goofy

"To do or not to do...that´s the answer!" (Goofys proverb)
utkan Offline
#67 Posted : 04 September 2009 16:17:50
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Goofy
<br />What kind of decoders do you have in locomotivs...?




The locos have their original analog marklin motors.Simply analogSmile

And I use old blue tranformators 6631.

But Signals and Turnouts are controlled on a computer screen with some digital circuits.But please do not ask about them brcause I hardly know about them. Some colleagues from my ex-university(You see I am retired now) have built them for me.Soon I will send the working principals of them. As I told you I am not against digital.But try to avoid it as much as possible...Cool

regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
intruder Offline
#68 Posted : 04 September 2009 17:54:36

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Very nice collection, mehmet.
Best regards Svein
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utkan Offline
#69 Posted : 04 September 2009 21:46:44
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by intruder
<br />Very nice collection, mehmet.


Thank you,intruderwink

regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
steventrain Offline
#70 Posted : 04 September 2009 22:12:59

Joined: 21/10/2004
Posts: 15,987
Location: Northern Ireland, United Kingdom.
Very nice collection of BR18 + S3/6.
Large Marklinist Layout/60212 Central Station 2.04/60213 CS2 1.3.0 (1)/6021 Control unit/M, K, C-Tracks/Favourites class BR01, BR03, BR50, BR43, E103, E18/Insider club membership since 2004. Website http://steventrain.fpic.co.uk/
utkan Offline
#71 Posted : 04 September 2009 22:17:36
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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by utkan
<br />
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by intruder
<br />Very nice collection, mehmet.


Thank you,intruderwink

regards,

mehmet


Dear Svein,

I had a chance to look at your wonderful collection.

They are simply GREAT[:0][:0][:0]VOW!
My congratulations...

regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
utkan Offline
#72 Posted : 04 September 2009 22:19:41
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Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by steventrain
<br />Very nice collection of BR18 + S3/6.


Thank you,StevenSmile
regards,
mehmet
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rcorreia Offline
#73 Posted : 05 September 2009 12:41:10

Joined: 05/01/2009
Posts: 240
Location: Lisboa, Portugal
Everytime I see this topic I'm more and more amazed... your display of BR18's is simply.... wonderful.

(you're wondering why I'm so quiet... testing ballast with both m and c-track, of course... biggrin)

Do you also have the Hogwarts Express? (I know it's not an 18 or something like that... but it's a box I like very much (unfortunately there's not one in my collection)
Ricardo Correia
Lisboa, Portugal
No Smoking unless you're a Steam Locomotive
utkan Offline
#74 Posted : 05 September 2009 13:55:13
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Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by rcorreia
<br />Everytime I see this topic I'm more and more amazed... your display of BR18's is simply.... wonderful.

(you're wondering why I'm so quiet... testing ballast with both m and c-track, of course... biggrin)

Do you also have the Hogwarts Express? (I know it's not an 18 or something like that... but it's a box I like very much (unfortunately there's not one in my collection)


Hi Ricardo,

Thanks for the compliments for the topic and BR 18's.Smile

To tell the truth I was really wondering about you for sometime.But I have no doubt that you are not wasting a precious moment of yours at all. Good luck with your track worksSmile

Unfortunately my dear friend, I haven't got the Hogwarts Express. To tell the truth I haven't got anything from England yet.But please do not tell this anyone.You see I don't want to disappoint my dearest English friends[:I]

Looking forward to seeing your latest work soonwink

regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
utkan Offline
#75 Posted : 06 September 2009 16:52:10
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Location: Istanbul,
Hi all,

Before we say bye to the weekend.....

The Rheingold and BR 18 434Smile


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFNUXxvQlGs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh7WmsLxPoc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M8R8-8sqSE

Hope you likeSmile

regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
hxmiesa Offline
#76 Posted : 06 September 2009 18:35:58

Joined: 15/12/2005
Posts: 1,828
Location: Spain
Impressive collection!
I only have one BR18.4, but it DOES run the old metal-Rheingold waggons! ;-)
My most numerous class is the BR111. I have 3. All analog with reverser-relay!
Best regards
Henrik Hoexbroe ("The Dane In Spain")
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utkan Offline
#77 Posted : 06 September 2009 21:32:54
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Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by hxmiesa
<br />Impressive collection!
I only have one BR18.4, but it DOES run the old metal-Rheingold waggons! ;-)
My most numerous class is the BR111. I have 3. All analog with reverser-relay!


Hi Henrik,
Thanks for the responseSmile

I think you like old metal waggons,like mewink Unfortunately all the new marklin stuff are plastic[:(] I really long for those old,long lasting,strong Marklins[:(]

I had a look at your layout once again.That 30 square meters really looks huge[:0]

regards,
mehmet
The world is analog!
TomB Offline
#78 Posted : 06 September 2009 21:49:12

Joined: 08/02/2007
Posts: 322
Location: Asker, Norway
<u>Still going strong, Mehmet !! </u>

I guess when you enter your bank, the director meets you with the words: "Good morning mr. Märklin .... Smile Smile Smile

Can you still count your collection, you must have some hundreds of locos ... ??
Tom Blikstad

HO, german/swiss trains, Märklin K+C, ECoS I+II,
Viessmann, Kühn, MBTronik, WinDigipet 2009 PE, WinTrack 9
utkan Offline
#79 Posted : 06 September 2009 22:12:01
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Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by TomB
<br /><u>Still going strong, Mehmet !! </u>

I guess when you enter tour bank, the director meets you with the words: "Good morning mr. Märklin .... Smile Smile Smile

Can you still count your collection, you must have some hundreds of locos ... ??


Hi Tom,

Thanks for the bank fantasybiggrinbiggrinbiggrin

Well,the counting is going with the shooting.We will all see the number together. But I think it will take a little timewinkYou see I am a bit slow....

I just wanted to put the old Marklins on the rail,because I heard some rumors/rumours(not want to lose my job-this part has nothing to do with youwink)that some BR 18's have not been running wellSmile
Tom,I wish I had another 4 Rheingolds to be pulled,but wife would not let mewink.These analogs will kill me softly,as it goes in the song....
bye Tom,

mehmet

The world is analog!
kimballthurlow Offline
#80 Posted : 07 September 2009 07:33:15

Joined: 18/03/2007
Posts: 2,175
Location: Brisbane,
Thankyou Mehmet for posting the evocative pictures of 18 class - I like the French variations.
We are all suckers for these lovely trains.
It is OK, so long as people near us are tolerant.
regards
Kimball
HO Scale - Märklin digital since 2005, DB ep III 1946 to 1965, C Track - other 2 rail US models (N&W) - Australian models (Victoria and Queensland) - English LNER/BR 1946 to 1954 - small O gauge collection of Märklin and Hornby.
utkan Offline
#81 Posted : 07 September 2009 08:36:42
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Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by kimballthurlow
<br />Thankyou Mehmet for posting the evocative pictures of 18 class - I like the French variations.
We are all suckers for these lovely trains.
It is OK, so long as people near us are tolerant.
regards
Kimball


Thank you Kimball for your lovely words....Especially about the tolerance.We really must respest eachother in the best manner...
''Never to be forgotten
In sight or sound.
Never to be heard...


By the way I must confess that I love your poem about steam engines....It is a pity that new generations do not know much about them...

with my kind regards,
mehmet
The world is analog!
river6109 Offline
#82 Posted : 07 September 2009 13:46:39

Joined: 22/01/2009
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Location: Perth, Western Australia
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by kimballthurlow
<br />Thankyou Mehmet for posting the evocative pictures of 18 class - I like the French variations.
We are all suckers for these lovely trains.
It is OK, so long as people near us are tolerant.
regards
Kimball


here is a video of the french 231 steam loco, you may of seen it already.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-yz-PhOJV4
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utkan Offline
#83 Posted : 07 September 2009 14:49:09
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Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by river6109
<br />
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by kimballthurlow
<br />Thankyou Mehmet for posting the evocative pictures of 18 class - I like the French variations.
We are all suckers for these lovely trains.
It is OK, so long as people near us are tolerant.
regards
Kimball


here is a video of the french 231 steam loco, you may of seen it already.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-yz-PhOJV4


Thank you John for the link.As you guessed I had already watched it.But thanks anyway...Later I will check my archive if I have the proper wagons for the French one.You see for the time being I am still working on Locos...wink

regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
utkan Offline
#84 Posted : 07 September 2009 16:06:07
Joined: 13/07/2009
Posts: 962
Location: Istanbul,

Hi all,
I do not think any comments would go with themSmile
Simply BR 18 434 and her Rheingolds...














regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
mmervine Offline
#85 Posted : 07 September 2009 16:30:50

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Posts: 1,305
Location: Spofford, NH
I continue to be amazed by your collection!biggrin
Märklin C-track, Digital, 6021/ESU Mobile/ECoS, multi-era
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utkan Offline
#86 Posted : 07 September 2009 16:41:15
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Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by mmervine
<br />I continue to be amazed by your collection!biggrin


I am glad you do so,MervineSmile

regards,

mehmet
The world is analog!
nevw Offline
#87 Posted : 07 September 2009 22:32:58

Joined: 27/08/2005
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Location: Brisbane, QLD
Lost for suitable words.

Fantastic.
nev
wearing the Pink Pinny and now a bung Hip

a being cured Sick Puppy & silly old goat also a reformist
utkan Offline
#88 Posted : 07 September 2009 22:49:15
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Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by nevw
<br />Lost for suitable words.

Fantastic.
nev


Thank you so much[:I]

By the way, Nevw, what happened to the peeping boy with the police officers?wink

regards,
mehmet
The world is analog!
nevw Offline
#89 Posted : 08 September 2009 04:05:36

Joined: 27/08/2005
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Location: Brisbane, QLD
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by utkan
<br />
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by nevw
<br />Lost for suitable words.

Fantastic.
nev


Thank you so much[:I]

By the way, Nevw, what happened to the peeping boy with the police officers?wink

regards,
mehmet


Oh him he got put away for being a peeping tom. biggrin he will be released when the new layout gets it top deck and gets decorated.

N SmileSmileSmile
wearing the Pink Pinny and now a bung Hip

a being cured Sick Puppy & silly old goat also a reformist
river6109 Offline
#90 Posted : 08 September 2009 15:38:50

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Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by utkan
<br />
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by river6109
<br />
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by kimballthurlow
<br />Thankyou Mehmet for posting the evocative pictures of 18 class - I like the French variations.
We are all suckers for these lovely trains.
It is OK, so long as people near us are tolerant.
regards
Kimball


here is a video of the french 231 steam loco, you may of seen it already.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-yz-PhOJV4


Thank you John for the link.As you guessed I had already watched it.But thanks anyway...Later I will check my archive if I have the proper wagons for the French one.You see for the time being I am still working on Locos...wink

regards,

mehmet


the video was intended for nev.
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utkan Offline
#91 Posted : 09 September 2009 15:40:50
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Posts: 962
Location: Istanbul,
Hi all,

Today we'll go on with NS 1600 and her French cousins BB 20011, BB 15000 and BB 22200Smile


From left, NS 1607, SNCF BB 20011, SNCF 15065 and SNCF 22402 TU


NS 1607 from the Netherlands... Once held a record by pulling 60 passenger cars at a time..(1992)




SNCF BB-20011 (1987)




SNCF BB-15065 (1989)



SNCF 22402 TU Tunnellok (1995)





regards,
m.utkan
The world is analog!
Darren W Offline
#92 Posted : 09 September 2009 16:52:38

Joined: 01/01/2007
Posts: 399
Location: Prince George, BC
How long have you been collecting Marklin locomotives to build up such a large collection? You have wonderful examples from every theme/era and you keep on adding more to the list.

Thank you for sharing them with us.

Cheers...
Darren
utkan Offline
#93 Posted : 09 September 2009 17:46:46
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Posts: 962
Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Darren Watalla
<br />How long have you been collecting Marklin locomotives to build up such a large collection? You have wonderful examples from every theme/era and you keep on adding more to the list.

Thank you for sharing them with us.

Cheers...
Darren


Hi Darren,

I have been collecting Marklin Locomotives and wagons since 1973. But since I met my German friend,Marco, I have done a lot of progressSmile So far I think I have pictured about 60 and still a very long way to gowinkThank you so much for your nice words and interest as well. What about you?

Cheers,

mehmet
The world is analog!
Darren W Offline
#94 Posted : 09 September 2009 18:06:57

Joined: 01/01/2007
Posts: 399
Location: Prince George, BC
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by utkan
<br />
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Darren Watalla
<br />How long have you been collecting Marklin locomotives to build up such a large collection? You have wonderful examples from every theme/era and you keep on adding more to the list.

Thank you for sharing them with us.

Cheers...
Darren


Hi Darren,

I have been collecting Marklin Locomotives and wagons since 1973. But since I met my German friend,Marco, I have done a lot of progressSmile So far I think I have pictured about 60 and still a very long way to gowinkThank you so much for your nice words and interest as well. What about you?

Cheers,

mehmet


Well you have been collecting since before I was born. I started with Marklin back in 2006 and I have not had much money to spend since I have 3 small children. I have my starter set and some locomotives, rolling stock and M-track from a collection I purchased last year. I am hoping that by the end of the year I will have some house renovations done and then I will have opened up a room in my basement for a layout. The room will be about 11' x 12'. You can see my modest collection of locomotives on my website http://members.shaw.ca/dwatalla

Cheers...
Darren
utkan Offline
#95 Posted : 10 September 2009 08:39:51
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Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Darren Watalla
<br />
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by utkan
<br />
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Darren Watalla
<br />



Well you have been collecting since before I was born. I started with Marklin back in 2006 and I have not had much money to spend since I have 3 small children. I have my starter set and some locomotives, rolling stock and M-track from a collection I purchased last year. I am hoping that by the end of the year I will have some house renovations done and then I will have opened up a room in my basement for a layout. The room will be about 11' x 12'. You can see my modest collection of locomotives on my website http://members.shaw.ca/dwatalla

Cheers...
Darren


Hi Darren,
When you think that you started only three years ago, you have done many things.You even have a website which,I still do not[:I].
I remember my first three years.Just two steam BR 44 and BR 01.That was all!
Hope you will soon have your layout in your basement.And Thank you for sending me your link,which gave me a chance to look at your collection.

cheers,

mehmet
The world is analog!
Micha Offline
#96 Posted : 10 September 2009 11:18:04

Joined: 16/10/2006
Posts: 29
Location: Stuttgart, Baden-Württemberg
Hi Mehmet !

Wonderful collection and a very nice layout !
I enjoy your videos and pictures very much !

Kind regards

Micha
utkan Offline
#97 Posted : 10 September 2009 12:25:25
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Posts: 962
Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by Micha
<br />Hi Mehmet !

Wonderful collection and a very nice layout !
I enjoy your videos and pictures very much !

Kind regards

Micha


Hi Micha,

Receiving these wonderful lines from you made me very happy.
I have been watching some great videos of yours on youtube.They are G R E A T[:0] I simply fall in love with themSmile
Please do not mention about my poor videos[:I][:I][:I]They are nothing when compared to yoursbiggrin

kind regards,
mehemet
The world is analog!
utkan Offline
#98 Posted : 10 September 2009 14:48:36
Joined: 13/07/2009
Posts: 962
Location: Istanbul,
Hi all,

And two Diesels V 188 and DB 288




V 188 001 a+b (1998)




DB 288 002-9 a+b (2000)





On a bridge they are greeting each otherSmile


till next timeSmile
regards,
mehmet
The world is analog!
spitzenklasse Offline
#99 Posted : 10 September 2009 15:13:48
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Posts: 1,365
Location: ,
Thank you for sharing your great collection. I thought that 36 series loc's were digital, and only since 1985. Since my oldest catalogue is no older, I have no way to cross reference your series 36 S-36 from the 70's.
utkan Offline
#100 Posted : 10 September 2009 16:01:27
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Location: Istanbul,
Quote:
[size=1" face="Verdana" id="quote]quote:Originally posted by spitzenklasse
<br />Thank you for sharing your great collection. I thought that 36 series loc's were digital, and only since 1985. Since my oldest catalogue is no older, I have no way to cross reference your series 36 S-36 from the 70's.


Hi Spitzenklasse,

Thanks for your nice lines,which made me happySmile.

All my 36 Diesels are from between 1982-1992.As far as I know the oldest 36 goes back to 1982...



Koll's Preis Katalog 2003

Hope I have been able to help...

regards,

mehmet
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